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* Secondary Theory....Kaine is/was/will be (Given Fforde's Penchant for ChronoTropes he could be either or all three) Big Brother, but due to the Alternate History of the series, there were no World Wars and therefore no Animal Farm and therefore no 1984. Since time travel is [[spoiler: now non-existant because of the events of "First Among Sequals" and the timeline s more in line with "our" reality]] then Kaine may have become Big Brother but still been defeated in a similar manner.

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* Secondary Theory....Kaine is/was/will be (Given Fforde's Penchant for ChronoTropes [=ChronoTropes=] he could be either or all three) Big Brother, but due to the Alternate History of the series, there were no World Wars and therefore no Animal Farm and therefore no 1984. Since time travel is [[spoiler: now non-existant because of the events of "First Among Sequals" and the timeline s more in line with "our" reality]] then Kaine may have become Big Brother but still been defeated in a similar manner.



Not [[spoiler: Aornis' mindworm]]. There's really no way to tell without ChronoGuard records, and even then it can be unclear.

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Not [[spoiler: Aornis' mindworm]]. There's really no way to tell without ChronoGuard [=ChronoGuard=] records, and even then it can be unclear.



*** Aornis makes reference to [[spoiler: Jenny]] when Thursday visits her at T.J Maxx, not exactly disproving [[spoiler: Jenny being Eradicated]] but why would Aornis, at this point a prisoner of the ChronoGuard, be able to [[spoiler:remember an eradicated person]]

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*** Aornis makes reference to [[spoiler: Jenny]] when Thursday visits her at T.J Maxx, not exactly disproving [[spoiler: Jenny being Eradicated]] but why would Aornis, at this point a prisoner of the ChronoGuard, [=ChronoGuard=], be able to [[spoiler:remember an eradicated person]]



[[WMG: Thursday5 will manage to transform Jenny into a real BookWorld character]]
* Jenny really exists as an imaginary friend type character. Since Thursday5 can see her, she can figure out how to transfer her to the world where imaginary beings can outlive their creators.
** It's possible that, due to Thursday5's experiences involving Jenny, Jenny is officially "imaginary" ''within'' Book World, and that for an extant version of her to exist in Book World would require someone (like Thursday) writing fiction about her with the conceit that she exists within Book World and/or Thursday's world.

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[[WMG: Thursday5 [=Thursday5=] will manage to transform Jenny into a real BookWorld [=BookWorld=] character]]
* Jenny really exists as an imaginary friend type character. Since Thursday5 [=Thursday5=] can see her, she can figure out how to transfer her to the world where imaginary beings can outlive their creators.
** It's possible that, due to Thursday5's [=Thursday5's=] experiences involving Jenny, Jenny is officially "imaginary" ''within'' Book World, and that for an extant version of her to exist in Book World would require someone (like Thursday) writing fiction about her with the conceit that she exists within Book World and/or Thursday's world.
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[[WMG:The Archive is TheDresdenFiles' representative in Jurisfiction.]]

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[[WMG:The Archive is TheDresdenFiles' Literature/TheDresdenFiles' representative in Jurisfiction.]]
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[[WMG: Jurisfiction was founded by Lex the bookworm after [[BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]], and his home is the Great Library]]

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[[WMG: Jurisfiction was founded by Lex the bookworm after [[BookwormAdventures [[VideoGame/BookwormAdventures Bookworm Adventures Volume 2]], and his home is the Great Library]]
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** Maybe a little, but there's [[spoiler: the Minotaur]] to consider.
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* Anton Next and Joffy Next aren't named after days of the week.
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[[WMG: ''ThursdayNext'' and ''The Kugelmass Episode'' are both set in the same 'Verse]]

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[[WMG: ''ThursdayNext'' ''Literature/ThursdayNext'' and ''The Kugelmass Episode'' are both set in the same 'Verse]]



[[WMG: ThursdayNext comes from Romeo and Juliet.]]

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[[WMG: ThursdayNext Literature/ThursdayNext comes from Romeo and Juliet.]]



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[[WMG: Yorrick Kaine is Big Brother from GeorgeOrwell's ''1984'']]

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[[WMG: Yorrick Kaine is Big Brother from GeorgeOrwell's Creator/GeorgeOrwell's ''1984'']]



* Secondary Theory....Kaine is/was/will be (Given Fforde's Penchant for ChronoTropes he could be either or all three) Big Brother, but due to the Alternate History of the series, there were no World Wars and therefore no Animal Farm and therefore no 1984. Since time travel is [[spoiler: now non-existant because of the events of "First Among Sequals" and the timeline s more in line with "our" reality]] then Kaine may have become Big Brother but still been defeated in a similar manner.

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* Secondary Theory....Kaine is/was/will be (Given Fforde's Penchant for ChronoTropes he could be either or all three) Big Brother, but due to the Alternate History of the series, there were no World Wars and therefore no Animal Farm and therefore no 1984. Since time travel is [[spoiler: now non-existant because of the events of "First Among Sequals" and the timeline s more in line with "our" reality]] then Kaine may have become Big Brother but still been defeated in a similar manner.



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[[WMG: Heathcliffe has escaped WutheringHeights and taken over Literature/{{Twilight}}.]]

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[[WMG: Heathcliffe has escaped WutheringHeights Literature/WutheringHeights and taken over Literature/{{Twilight}}.]]
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They match up so well, it's utterly uncanny, but of course, ''Thursday'' is set in England in 1985 whereas ''Kugelmass'' is set in New York in 1978. It's established by Victor Analogy in ''The Eyre Affair'' that a literary character crossing over into the real world (or vice versa) was not an unheard of occurrence, and the incident with Kugelmass and [[MadameBovary Emma Bovary]] could easily have been one of the precedents. In addition, the Great Persky is in the same business as Mrs. Nakajima, charging $20 for round trips to and from the Great Library.

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They match up so well, it's utterly uncanny, but of course, ''Thursday'' is set in England in 1985 whereas ''Kugelmass'' is set in New York in 1978. It's established by Victor Analogy in ''The Eyre Affair'' that a literary character crossing over into the real world (or vice versa) was not an unheard of occurrence, and the incident with Kugelmass and [[MadameBovary [[Literature/MadameBovary Emma Bovary]] could easily have been one of the precedents. In addition, the Great Persky is in the same business as Mrs. Nakajima, charging $20 for round trips to and from the Great Library.
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** It's possible that, due to Thursday5's experiences involving Jenny, Jenny is officially "imaginary" ''within'' Book World, and that for an extant version of her to exist in Book World would require someone (like Thursday) writing fiction about her with the conceit that she exists within Book World and/or Thursday's world.
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** Yes, it sometimes feels like it. I was wondering about how many levels of book within a book within and so on we've had in this series. Unfortunately canon says that the in-universe Thursday Next series doesn't really cover the book world. But since that is probably about to change, given the end of ''Missing'', it may turn out like that indeed.
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** Nice idea, but since Germany occupied England in World War II there must have been at least two of them.
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* They meet, they marry, but you forgot step two: Angst. "Your mother is responsible for the death of my mother! How I hate you! And yet I love you! And yet..."
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** Completely unrelated, but the HR lady where this troper works is actually named Saturday.
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[[WMG: Heathcliffe has escaped WutheringHeights and taken over {{Twilight}}.]]

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[[WMG: Thursday5 will manage to transform Jenny into a real BookWorld character]]
* Jenny really exists as an imaginary friend type character. Since Thursday5 can see her, she can figure out how to transfer her to the world where imaginary beings can outlive their creators.
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* Which explains why they use Bobby Ewing as shorthand for AllJustADream.

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[[WMG: Films and TV are parts of the Book World.]]
Since plays are included in the Book World, it stands to reason that films are too. After all, films have scripts, and everything written down has a place in the Great Library. Of course, ad-libbed stuff probably isn't present, but everything scripted should be.
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[[WMG: Heathcliffe has escaped WutheringHeights and taken over {{Twilight}}.]]
Heathcliffe has been threatening to make a [=PageRunner=] attempt to get out of Wuthering Heights and star in something else. Where else have we seen an abusive lover of that magnitude? He's escaped from Wuthering Heights and broken into Twilight, either getting himself cast as Edward Cullen during construction, or kidnapping or killing the real Edward. Naturally, he takes Cathy with him to play Bella, which explains Bella's slavish devotion to Edward as well as her obsession with Wuthering Heights. This also explains Stephanie Meyer's insistence that Edward is the perfect boyfriend - the Edward she ''wrote'' was an ideal partner for any teenage girl, but she ended up with Heathcliffe instead.

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[[WMG: Friday Next and Betty Stoker will eventually get married.]]
They are about the same age, they both come from a very special family, they may meet each other one day as Spike and Thursday are good friends, so why not?
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* Knowing [=BookWorld=], they'd probably reuse as much of the "real" fictional worlds for the "fictional" fictional worlds as they could. Remember there are only, what, seven pianos in all of fiction?
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[[WMG: The [=BookWorld=] is infinitely recursive.]]
In ''First Among Sequels'' Thursday's adventures had been novelised, and Thursday meets the versions of herself from those books. That means they would have included the parts where that Thursday went into the [=BookWorld=], which would include the ''Thursday Next'' books written about her including the parts where she goes into the [=BookWorld=], which would include the ''Thursday Next'' books...
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[[WMG:The Archive is TheDresdenFiles' representative in Jurisfiction.]]
Given that she knows everything and anything that's written, she would be a pretty powerful ally for Jurisfiction to have... and given how much power she has, a really bad enemy to make.

[[WMG: Lethe is actually the worst of the Hades family.]]
In Greek myth, Lethe is the river of forgetfulness- perhaps he's the one who sets up his relatives and has them forget that they'd been set up.
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* {{Jossed}}. It's a phrase the author's mother used to use frequently; Thursday's name is an homage to her.

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