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[[WMG: Time-Travel Predeterminisation]]

[[WMG: Megatron's Words]]

[[WMG: Part of Roberts' intention is to create personalities for these previously barely-known characters in case/so that they enter cartoons]]

[[WMG: After the events of Prime Wars, Rodimus will become Rodimus Prime]]

[[WMG: Whirl will hook up with Velocity]]

[[WMG: Overlord's mysterious benefactors are the Quintessons]]

[[WMG: Overlord's mysterious benefactor is the original Rewind]]

[[WMG: Did Tyrest accidentally shadowplay himself?]]

[[WMG: The Legislators are looking for a medic to repair [[spoiler:Tyrest and Star Saber.]]]]

* Maybe they're just some powered-down guards from Luna 1 that reactivated when Fort Max and Red reinstated the (now-corrected)Tyrest Accord.
[[WMG: The coffin contains some sort of mind-reading psychic emitter.]]

[[WMG: Issue 7 & 8 (Who's afraid of the DJD) [[spoiler:happened in the branched timeline]]]].

[[WMG: Prowl is the one responsible for [[spoiler: Overlord]] being on the ''Lost Light''.]]
This was foreshadowed way back in the first issue; [[spoiler: Overlord]] was Prowl's "plan" to keep Rodimus and his crew from leaving. To whit, [[spoiler: Overlord was repaired, at least physically, on Prowl's orders, secretly moved out of the Autobot penal system, and was the cargo loaded into the ''Lost Light'' by Shock and Ore. It seems likely that Overlord's presence was supposed to be revealed in order to get Rodimus to turn his ship around, and head back to Cybertron to offload him, since even Rodimus would probably pause at keeping Overlord around, and Prowl most likely intended that once that happened, he'd ensure that the ship wouldn't be able to take off again. Shock and Ore's deaths derailed this however, since they were the only ones who knew about Overlord's presence before Red Alert found out. This level of extremism, and the ability to cover up Overlord's location-remember, Rung told Fort Max that Overlord had been imprisoned-fits with Prowl's characterization in the IDW comics.]]

[[WMG: Ultra Magnus...]]

[[WMG: The Legislators are creations of Chief Justice Tyrest.]]

** [[spoiler: [[OhCrap Confirmed]].]]

[[WMG: The Legislators will turn on Tyrest]]

** [[spoiler: Somewhat confirmed. Tailgate repeals all the laws using the editing computer, and they stand down, allowing Tyrest to be taken away.]]

[[WMG: The "Lost Light" exists in a quantum state that allowed for duplicates.]]

[[WMG: The Knights of Cybertron are Really]]

[[WMG: Roberts is Putting the Franchise Back Together Again]]

[[WMG: The Crew of the Weak Anthropic Principle will be killed]]

[[WMG: Rung is one of the Knights of Cybertron.]]

[[WMG: Overlord will die at the hands of the DJD.]]

[[WMG: The Conspirator will be killed by Rodimus.]]
* [[spoiler: Drift]] will survive Overlord's rampage on the ''Lost Light'' and in the aftermath of this event, it will come out that not only was he aware the whole time that Overlord was [[spoiler: on the ''Lost Light'' the whole time]] he ''never told Rodimus about it or enacted more than the flimsiest of security measures to keep him imprisoned''. Rodimus will become so furious when he realizes that [[spoiler: his second-in-command]] essentially betrayed them and has cost them Autobot lives that he'll pull out his blaster and shoot [[spoiler: Drift]] right there in the head. [[spoiler: Since there's a good chance Ultra Magnus will be dead by then and can't do it himself...]]
** [[spoiler: Jossed. Rodimus strips Drift of his faction symbol and exiles him from the ship. HotBlooded or no, it is still Rodimus, he's unlikely to kill a "fellow" Autobot, no matter how angry he looks in the scene.]]

[[WMG: Red Alert didn't try to commit suicide.]]

* And that someone was [[spoiler:Drift. After all, he installed a security program in the ship's systems to track down who even mutters the word Overlord; so Drift attacked him and ripped his head off for finding the truth about what's in the basement.]]
** [[spoiler: The security system did pick up Red Alert confiding to a comatose Rung that he had found Overlord in the basement]].

* Also, in the ''Signal to Noise'' short story, [[spoiler: Rung seems to hint that he doesn't believe Red Alert committed a suicide, referring to it as an accident instead.]]

[[WMG: Chromedome's last words to [[spoiler: Rewind have to do with Dominus' fate]].]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The Necrobot]] makes a mistake.]]
When he shows up at Clemency to record [[spoiler: Flywheels' death]], an event that hasn't actually happened yet, his list notes [[spoiler: Chromedome as one of the dead Cybertronians he's already recorded.]] But he actually made, or will make a mistake. [[spoiler: He'll find the ruined slow cell out in space before he gets to Clemency, and happen to come across Chromedome's severed arm that was sliced off when Rewind successfully closed the door, while no trace of Rewind remains. The Necrobot sees the arm, assumes given the circumstances in which he's found it that Chromedome must have perished, and records his death, and not Rewind's. This means that eighteen or however long it is until the scene on Clemency with Flywheels, Chromedome will ''still be alive''.]]

[[WMG: There's more than meets the eye to Spinister]]

[[WMG: The ship the Scavengers find in issue 7 has something to do with the Legislators.]]

[[WMG: Chromedome and Prowl were once [[spoiler:Conjux Endura]]]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Tyrest is Crazy...]]]]
* [[spoiler:because he got shot in the head. Ultra Magnus mentions right away what's up with all the bullet holes, and he has one right in the middle of his forehead]].
** [[spoiler: More or less confirmed, though the wound is self-inflicted and it seems that Tyrest's issues were already reaching a breaking point before he drilled his head]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Star Saber is the ManBehindTheMan to Tyrest]]]]
* [[spoiler: Tyrest mentions that he's found religion, and Star Saber is known as the "Dark Evangelist"]].
** [[spoiler: Another theory is that it is actually Shockwave behind Tyrest. Tyrest can kill many cybertronians with the flick of a switch, and Shockwave can resurrect them with Ore-13]].

[[WMG: Cyclonus will abruptly, and without warning, kill Whirl at the end of Remain In Light.]]

[[WMG: Pharma is still infected with the Red Rust virus and will suffer a DeathByIrony]]

[[WMG: Misfire is a thought crime victim]]
* [[spoiler: Skids wiping his mind destroyed all memories related to the diplomatic corp. him forgetting Misfire may mean Misfire was associated with the corps at one point. Maybe he was a ruthless Decpeticon agent, and Skids shot him with a thought bullet which turned him into the aimless "stoner" he is today, or maybe he was something else before and Skids turned him into what he is today.]]

[[WMG: "Primus' Opposite" is NOT Unicron]]

[[WMG: "Cyberutopia" is the home of the Quintessons.]]

[[WMG: Rodimus has had his own memories tampered with]]

[[WMG: Everyone on the Necrobot's list is still going to die]]
* [[spoiler: They just didn't die during Remain In Light. Dark Cybertron is still to come.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Rung is instrumental for...]] ]]
* something... [[spoiler: either defeating Galvatron, Shockwave, reactivating Primus, being a part of some weapon... or a ladder... and then he dies]].

[[WMG: Whirl is going to be rebuilt into a new body]]

[[WMG: Star Saber [[spoiler:will join the crew of the Lost Light]] ]]

[[WMG: Megatron's sentence...]]

[[WMG: Whirl is working for...]]

[[WMG: Atomizer has ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers Rodimus]]'' [[ComicBook/TheTransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers Apotheosis.]]]]

[[WMG: Atomizer edited the voting list he gave to Rodimus to [[DespairEventHorizon demoralize]] him.]]

[[WMG: When Metroplex said the Lost Light crew "didn't deserve to know" about the Knights...]]

[[WMG: Riptide is evil.]]

[[WMG: The Lost Light is going to get its own combiner; Defensor.]]
* Because ALL of the members of the Protectobots are now onboard the ''Lost Light'', though First Aid is the only one of them to get any real exposure. But Blades has been a background crewmember since season one, and rather conveniently, the season 2 comics have seen Hot Spot, Groove and Streetwise, the remaining three members of the team sign up as well, though again, the comics haven't called attention to it apart from Groove in the Crewditions gag. Given the 2015 Generations' toyline being heavily combiner focused (with new versions of Superion and Menasor, who also happen to be two of the few current combiners active in the IDW 'verse) AND a duo of multipacks that are non-combining Protectobots who are repaints of various Prime, Universe and Movie toys and, it seems likely that Defensor is in the works. Conveniently, this would also mean that all the major groups of characters across the comics would have something to tie them into the next CrisisCrossover (the Autobots, or perhaps more accurately, Prowl, has Devastator, the Decepticons have Menasor, Starscream's Cybertron would have Superion, and Monstructor is still out there as a WildCard along with Defensor for the ''Lost Light''). This will probably coincide with the announcement of a Defensor toy, probably either at Toy Fair or BotCon 2015, which are when Hasbro likes to do its big reveals.

[[WMG: Rung is...]]

[[WMG: Rewind has been subjected to mnemosurgery before]]

[[WMG: Ten was [[spoiler: Dominus Ambus]]]]

[[WMG: Riptide is a historical constant, like Rung.]]

[[WMG: Getaway and his possible motives]]

[[WMG: Rodimus' desk carvings]]

[[WMG: Whirl's holomatter avatar indicates he is going through CharacterDevelopment]]

[[WMG: Swerve's disappearance has to do with [[spoiler:opening the briefcase.]]]]
* [[spoiler:He friggin' [[Series/QuantumLeap quantum leaped]] out of there, after all.]]

[[WMG: Rook's sudden inclusion in the Protectobots is going to be given a LampshadeHanging]]

[[WMG: Megatron's planning something]]
* [[spoiler: He plans to send a completely different version of Towards Peace back in time using the briefcase Ravage stole while Rodimus and Perceptor were burning the others. After visiting the Necrobot's planet he has seen the height of his crimes and wants to retcon his life so that he can undo all of the damage. But we've already seen that the YouAlreadyChangedThePast is in effect, so this act will contribute to Megatron's paranoia, rather than fixing things. He says he doesn't know how he was, meaning he can't remember how he used to think.]]

[[WMG: Grimlock was...]]

[[WMG: Roberts...]]

[[WMG: Rung ''does'' know what his alt-mode is]]

** Issue #50 lends some credence to this theory; during Rung's [[spoiler: video detailing his instructions for how he wishes to be interred, his only request is that if he dies in his altmode, he be completely dissassembled, in his own words "be put completely out of use".]] That does seem to suggest he at least has an idea of what his altmode is, but maybe he doesn't want it to ''ever'' be used, hence his request?

[[WMG: There's another Map/Matrix Half out there!]]

[[WMG: Getaway lied.]]
* [[spoiler: Specifically, about having the entire rest of the crew on his side regarding his mutiny against Rodimus, Megatron, and their circle. There are probably a few more dissenters who, even if they don't like Megatron particularly, aren't willing to go as far as Getaway and his crew are, but they can be handled more efficiently. Everyone who got sent to the Necrobot's planet is extremely powerful or dangerous in their own way; either powerhouses like Magnus, Whirl, Cyclonus, newly superstrong Tailgate, and Skids, or in other ways. Chromedome and Rewind are a pair, and a memnosurgeon is a really dangerous enemy to have, and Chromedome has a history of making bad life decisions, so they both go. Swerve isn't dangerous on his own, but he's good buddies with Skids, who would have come to his aid, so better they both go to the Necrobot's planet, and Nautica, being a quantum engineer who could futz with the ship's engines is probably not someone Getaway would want to keep on the ship if she wasn't completely onboard with his plan. Nightbeat was too dangerous to be kept around as well, due to being extremely intelligent and cunning. Something similar is probably true of Rung (who also might have been seen to be getting too chummy with Megatron after their therapy sessions). Velocity was probably an unplanned casuality, since Mainframe did try to attempt to talk her out of going, but considering she probably doesn't have the same strong feelings on the war and Megatron as Getaway's crew does, probably safest she be removed anyway. First Aid and Ratchet will be returning to the ship at some point, so Getaway is probably hedging his bets that at least one of those medics will sympathize with them (First Aid bowed out of helping Vos, so more likely him than Ratchet). Plus it provided an organic excuse to send Whirl with them too. Everyone else who wasn't onboard with a mutiny can be dealt with, locked away in the cells until they're convinced to come around or left somewhere less dangerous. Getaway just told Rodimus the entire crew was on his side to try and demoralize him and his team to make it easier for the DJD and their allies to swoop in and take care of things.]]

[[WMG: Tarn's [[spoiler:execution of Kaon ]]will cost his alliance with Deathsaurus.]]

[[WMG: Skids [[spoiler:committed suicide.]]]]
* Ratchet explicitly warned him that [[spoiler:any further physical exertion would be fatal. The despairing, hysterical Skids then chose to end his life to atone for Grindcore by doing exactly that.]]

[[WMG: The situation on the Lost Light is going to fall apart.]]

[[WMG: Shockwave is back and he is the "Grand Architect" from "Animals".]]

[[WMG: The Functionalist Universe will end up becoming the Shattered Glass Universe]]

[[WMG: Sunder is affecting Getaway too]]

[[WMG: Those scraplets were the ones from the Holiday Special]]

[[WMG: Getaway planned to kill Star Saber]]

[[WMG: Rodimus saving Getaway was a CruelMercy]]

[[WMG: Getaway was using the nudge gun on himself]]

[[WMG: Getaway went [[GoMadFromTheIsolation mad from his imprisonment]]]]

[[WMG: Nightbeat and Ten are, technically, still alive]]

While on Mederi, Team Rodimus are initially under the impression they're in the Afterspark and waiting to "ascend", only to later learn it's pretty much a euthenasia clinic made to look like the Afterspark thanks to a group of psychics there. Before they learn this though, both Ten and Nightbeat end up "ascending", their sparks bursting from their chests and floating into the large Matrix in the sky... one problem with that though. In the pages of ComicBook/TheTransformersUnicron, after Soundwave conducts his HeroicSacrifice he is welcomed into the Afterspark but all the noteworthy characters that died during "Phase 2" of the IDW universe, even some that aren't even Transformers like Mainframe/Blaine. And yet, ''neither Ten nor Nightbeat are there''.

In Roberts' fic ''Eugenesis'', several ideas seen in the pages of MTMTE can be found there first, like Star Saber being a zealot, "Cold Constructed" Transformers, Primus and Unicron being much more mundane in nature, or even the original debut of Rung. There's one idea in that fic though worth mentioning here: Nightbeat's ''clone''. ''Eugenesis'''s post-script has Nightbeat, despite dying, showing up alive again, revealing himself to be a clone of the original Nightbeat down to sharing memories, but being fully aware he's a clone, in a manner similar to that of the TheseusShipParadox. Considering how much of ''Eugenesis'' Roberts ended up referencing in MTMTE, it's entirely possible that Nightbeat and Ten's absence from the Afterspark welcoming Soundwave was meant to be a hint to the fact they ''weren't'' dead, but, much like Nightbeat in ''Eugensis'', gonna come back but technically as clones, just with their original Sparks, something he couldn't follow through with due to IDW enforcing a ContinuityReboot. Would certainly explain why, outside of the initial death scenes themselves, none of the cast really get the chance to ''mourn'' the two of them, which from a narrative perspective would work since they weren't ''actually'' dead.

* I'd imagine being left in a cell dangling and isolated, unable to move under pain of being electrocuted, or even speak for the better part of a year would likely have had a negative toll on his mental state-after all, even regular solitary confinment has been shown to have a damaging effect on the mental health of prisoners, and what Getaway went through was solitary confinement taken to the next level.

* I'd imagine being left in a cell dangling and isolated, unable to move under pain of being electrocuted, or even speak for the better part of a year would likely have had a negative toll on his mental state-after all, even regular solitary confinment has been shown to have a damaging effect on the mental health of prisoners, and what Getaway went through was solitary confinement taken UpToEleven.

* I'd imagine being left in a cell dangling and isolated, unable to move under pain of being electrocuted, or even speak for the better part of a year would likely have had a negative toll on his mental state-after all, even regular solitary confinment has been shown to have a damaging effect on the mental health of prisoners, and what Getaway went through was solitary confinement taken [[UpToEleven]].

[[WMG: Getaway went [[MadFromTheIsolation]] during his imprisonment]]
* I'd imagine being left in a cell dangling and isolated, unable to move under pain of being electrocuted, or even speak for the better part of a year would likely have had a negative toll on his mental state-after all, even regular solitary confinment has been shown to have a damaging effect on the mental health of prisoners, and what Getaway went through was solitary confinement taken [[UpTo11]].

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HilarityEnsues.

* Due to the somewhat...inconsistent nature of Combiner Wars' writing, Rook (a new character who's toy takes the place of Groove as a limb in the recently released Protectobots) suddenly appeared standing with the rest of the Protectobots ''just'' when Starscream needed to turn a bunch of robots into a combiner, despite not being referenced or even seen with the Protectobots before then (though a crowd shot did have him running from Menasor on Caminus). Therefore, MTMTE is going to have fun with this when First Aid and his team get back from Cybertron, with Hot Spot and his crew now being forced to drag along an unwilling Camien who just happened to be wandering by when the leader of Cybertron forced him to become a limb in a combiner, and because of this, now has to join a bunch of weirdos on a trip through the cosmos that he never actually wanted to go on. HilarityEnsues.

** That said, he actually denied this on twitter when asked about it, but maybe he's lying!

Let's say Getaway hadn't died. He had manipulated, lied to, brainwashed, and murdered everyone he had ever met during his captaincy. He had collaborated with a serial killer, religious fanatic, and ultimately, the Guiding Hand, and had his entire crew turned into sparkeaters. In short, the Cybertronian Courts will have field day with him. In the face of all the evidence, and all the testimonies from the crew of the Lost Light, both Team Rodimus, and the unfortunate crew members duped into following him, will get their chance to tell how he hurt and betrayed them all. It is here where this Prime-wannabe will be exposed for what he truly is: a delusional, backstabbing, petty, psychopath. The best attorney in the universe wouldn't be able to defend him.

If Getaway was lucky, he'd be sentenced to death. If not, he'd be subject to an imprisonment that would make what he went through after his plot with Tailgate was discovered. What awaited him would be, in his eyes, a FateWorseThanDeath. And this would likely be on his mind when he ran into the fire: however painful it would be, death would be infinitely better than the indignity of going to trial.