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** Well, let's face it, Nick Stahl was ''born'' to play Stu. You hearin' me, Affleck?
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*** Isn't "Teddy" commonly a nickname for ''Theodore''?
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[[WMG: Flagg is Nyarlahotep.]]
The dark man... wreaks havoc on humanity... present in thousands of shapes and forms...
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[[WMG: Somehow, the presence of the Judge in Boulder is part of a XanatosGambit by Flagg; since that one man was there, Flagg will be able to return in his current incarnation.]]

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[[WMG: Somehow, the presence of the Judge in Boulder is part of a XanatosGambit ThePlan by Flagg; since that one man was there, Flagg will be able to return in his current incarnation.]]

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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. Not that I wouldn't put it past them to do it anyway, but then the riots would be way bigger, way faster. And there'd be more leaks whether it was shut down or not, video and photos travel so fast today...one word: YouTube. Or, Facebook. Either/or or both. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. Even if everyone got their net and cells cut off, there'd be plenty of stuff out before then. And then probably hackers trying to hack into the system to bring it back up and send the info, stealing satellite signals,to get it on TV, ect. And probably ten million Captain Trips Facebook pages and message boards.

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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. Not that I wouldn't put it past them to do it anyway, but then the riots would be way bigger, way faster. And there'd be more leaks whether it was shut down or not, video and photos travel so fast today...one word: YouTube.Website/YouTube. Or, Facebook. Either/or or both. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. Even if everyone got their net and cells cut off, there'd be plenty of stuff out before then. And then probably hackers trying to hack into the system to bring it back up and send the info, stealing satellite signals,to get it on TV, ect. And probably ten million Captain Trips Facebook pages and message boards.



Flagg is the creature of darkness, and Mother Abigail is the creature of light.

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Flagg is the creature of darkness, and Mother Abigail is the creature of light.



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[[WMG: Randall Flagg is the {{Slender Man|Mythos}}]]
He appears to people similarly, at least until the plague has run its course.
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*I stole CBS!

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* And Benjamin is Stu Redman?

[[WMG: Randall Flagg is the {{Slender Man|Mythos}}]]
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[[WMG: The Stand is set in {{Carnivale}}'s universe]]
Flagg is the creature of darkness, and Mother Abigail is the creature of light.
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[[WMG: Randall Flagg is [[SlenderManMythos The Slender Man]].]]
He pretty much has the same M.O., until the plague runs its course, and he puts phase two of his plan into action.
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Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs that video]] at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.

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Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs that video]] video at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.
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Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen [[[[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs that video]] at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.

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Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen [[[[www.[[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs that video]] at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.
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[[WMG:Matt Frewer based his performance as Trashcan Man on [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs the WTTW Max Headroom weirdo.]]
Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen that video at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.

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[[WMG:Matt Frewer based his performance as Trashcan Man on [[www.the WTTW Max Headroom weirdo.]]
Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen [[[[www.
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Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen
that video video]] at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.
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[[WMG:Matt Frewer based his performance as Trashcan Man on [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs the WTTW Max Headroom weirdo]].]]

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[[WMG:Matt Frewer based his performance as Trashcan Man on [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs the WTTW Max Headroom weirdo]].weirdo.]]
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[[WMG:Matt Frewer based his performance as Trashcan Man on [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWdgAMYjYSs the WTTW Max Headroom weirdo]].]]
Seeing as he ''was'' MaxHeadroom, it seems reasonable to assume he would've seen that video at some point prior to doing ''TheStand'', and there are definitely similarities, particularly Trash's {{laugh|ingmad}}.
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*** ...Teddy/Ted is a nickname for Richard. And the Judge's name was definitely Richard.
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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. Not that I wouldn't put it past them to do it anyway, but then the riots would be way bigger, way faster. And there'd be more leaks whether it was shut down or not, video and photos travel so fast today...one word: YouTube. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. Even if everyone got their net and cells cut off, there'd be plenty of stuff out before then. And then probably hackers trying to hack into the system to bring it back up and send the info, steal satellites to get it on TV, ect.

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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. Not that I wouldn't put it past them to do it anyway, but then the riots would be way bigger, way faster. And there'd be more leaks whether it was shut down or not, video and photos travel so fast today...one word: YouTube. Or, Facebook. Either/or or both. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. Even if everyone got their net and cells cut off, there'd be plenty of stuff out before then. And then probably hackers trying to hack into the system to bring it back up and send the info, steal satellites to stealing satellite signals,to get it on TV, ect.
ect. And probably ten million Captain Trips Facebook pages and message boards.



Even without the nuclear part, I would LOVE to see an update of the novel where it's set today, or for someone to write a novel in the vein of THe Stand in today's world.

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Even without the nuclear part, I would LOVE to see an update of the novel where it's set today, or for someone to write a novel in the vein of THe The Stand in today's world.

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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. And there'd be more leaks...one word: YouTube. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. And I often thought there was a chance that might have caused international problems...if either word of the intentional infections got out that way, or the US took the most logical track and blamed the superflu on a terrorist attack and technology let the wrong nation in on it, there might even be mass nuclear chaos before everyone had a chance to die of the plague.

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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. Not that I wouldn't put it past them to do it anyway, but then the riots would be way bigger, way faster. And there'd be more leaks...leaks whether it was shut down or not, video and photos travel so fast today...one word: YouTube. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. Even if everyone got their net and cells cut off, there'd be plenty of stuff out before then. And then probably hackers trying to hack into the system to bring it back up and send the info, steal satellites to get it on TV, ect.

And I often thought there was a chance that might have caused international problems...if either word of the intentional infections got out that way, or the US took the most logical track and blamed the superflu on a terrorist attack and technology let the wrong nation in on it, there might even be mass nuclear chaos before everyone had a chance to die of the plague.

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[[WMG:This scenario would be a lot different today]] The world is way more connected today even than it was in 1991, when the update came out. Everyone with a cell phone has camera and video. And if you're the government, you can't shut down the entire internet and cell phone networks without arousing way more suspicion even than the leaked stuff in the book. And there'd be more leaks...one word: YouTube. Viral videos all over the place, people sending photos to their entire email or contact list. And I often thought there was a chance that might have caused international problems...if either word of the intentional infections got out that way, or the US took the most logical track and blamed the superflu on a terrorist attack and technology let the wrong nation in on it, there might even be mass nuclear chaos before everyone had a chance to die of the plague.

Even without the nuclear part, I would LOVE to see an update of the novel where it's set today, or for someone to write a novel in the vein of THe Stand in today's world.
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** Not really...he turns into a crow and flies off.
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[[WMG: Randall Flagg is a [[MageTheAscension Nephandus]].]]

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[[WMG: Randall Flagg is a [[MageTheAscension [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension Nephandus]].]]
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* [[{{Carnivale}} Management]]?
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** No go. Farris' first name is Teddy/Theodore, not Richard. When he is discussing Hope Cemetery from his youth and he quotes his father, we learn his dad called him Teddy.
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[[WMG: Somehow, the presence of the Judge in Boulder is part of a massive XanatosGambit by Flagg; since that one man was there, Flagg will be able to return in his current incarnation.]]
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* There's also [[TheLastDJ Ray Flowers]], who broadcasted just before the outbreak. A disposable avatar of Flagg's, perhaps?
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[[WMG: Randall Flagg is a [[MageTheAscension Nephandus]].]]
He's implied to be immortal, can perform [[BlackMagic acts of rather unpleasant magic that seems geared to destroying things]], and is dedicated to destroying the [[TheDarkTower tower]], essentially condemning the universe to annihilation. The event that causes the nuke to blow up is paradox backlash finally blowing up in his face when he goes a little [[KillItWithFire too extreme]] with his magic in front of [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve too many witnesses]]. Even after his 'death' he appears to reincarnate in the extended addition, lending further credence to the theory.
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* Alternately, he intended to [[DemonicPossession possess]] or [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash]] the judge, and send him back to Boulder to cause chaos,or keep him as a replacement boody in case someone managed to defeat him. This is why he wanted him taken alive so badly, and why he [[YouHaveFailedMe reacted like he did.]]

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* Alternately, he intended to [[DemonicPossession possess]] or [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash]] the judge, and send him back to Boulder to cause chaos,or keep him as a replacement boody body in case someone managed to defeat him. This is why he wanted him taken alive so badly, and why he [[YouHaveFailedMe reacted like he did.]]
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* Alternately, he intended to [[DemonicPossession possess]] or [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash]] the judge, and send him back to Boulder to cause chaos,or keep him as a replacement boody in case someone managed to defeat him. This is why he wanted him taken alive so badly, and why he [[YouHaveFailedMe reacted like he did.]]
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[[WMG: Somehow, the presence of the Judge in Boulder is part of a massive XanatosGambit by Flagg; since that one man was there, Flagg will be able to return in his current incarnation.]]
Because the Judge's real name is Richard Farris. R.F. Hmmmmmm...
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I assume that\'s who is meant, there not being a character named Natalie in the book.


The only thing he needed to be physically present for during the Gathering was releasing Lloyd from his cell, everything else was done through dreams and hallucinations. He isn't near as omniscient as he'd like to believe (since he doesn't even notice [[spoiler: the pyro screaming "My life for you" riding into Las Vagas]]), and the shapeshifting into a corvid is done, with only one exception (where he was panicking) in psychic contact. He only turned into a devil to [[MindRape screw with]] Natalie and increase his fear factor, not because he actually ''is'' a demon. And last but not least, while in the book [[spoiler: Flagg is still plotting in the end]], but in the miniseries, [[spoiler: a mere burst of intense heat and radiation destroys him]].\\

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The only thing he needed to be physically present for during the Gathering was releasing Lloyd from his cell, everything else was done through dreams and hallucinations. He isn't near as omniscient as he'd like to believe (since he doesn't even notice [[spoiler: the pyro screaming "My life for you" riding into Las Vagas]]), and the shapeshifting into a corvid is done, with only one exception (where he was panicking) in psychic contact. He only turned into a devil to [[MindRape screw with]] Natalie Nadine and increase his fear factor, not because he actually ''is'' a demon. And last but not least, while in the book [[spoiler: Flagg is still plotting in the end]], but in the miniseries, [[spoiler: a mere burst of intense heat and radiation destroys him]].\\

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