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* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow Satoris to fulfill the prophecy (however ironically), restore the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed. Also, both Troy and Rowsdower had ties to the city before the movie (Troy's father was trying to find the city, and Rowsdower was a part of the cult that sought the city's power).
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* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow Satoris to fulfill the prophecy (however ironically), restore the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed. Also, both Troy and Rowsdower had ties to the city before the movie (Troy's father was trying to find the city, and Rowsdower was a part of the cult that sought the city's power).
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* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow Satoris to fulfill the prophecy (however ironically), restore the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed.
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* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow Satoris to fulfill the prophecy (however ironically), restore the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed. Also, both Troy and Rowsdower had ties to the city before the movie (Troy's father was trying to find the city, and Rowsdower was a part of the cult that sought the city's power).
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* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow Satoris to fulfill the prophecy (however ironically), restore the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed.
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[[WMG: The grandmother/aunt/old lady was part of the cult or was disposed of by the cult.]]
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[[WMG: The grandmother/aunt/old lady Troy's Aunt Betty was part of the cult or was disposed of by the cult.]]
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** This subtext, to me, paints Rowsdower as less of a “chunky, backwoods, loser” and more of a flawed hero who is [[MustMakeAmends desperately trying to fix the mistakes that he's made.]]
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** This subtext, to me, paints Rowsdower as less of a “chunky, backwoods, loser” and more of a flawed hero who is [[MustMakeAmends desperately trying to fix the mistakes that he's made.]]]]
[[WMG: Troy and Rowsdower are the unwitting instruments of the true gods of the city of Ziox. ]]
* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed.
[[WMG: Troy and Rowsdower are the unwitting instruments of the true gods of the city of Ziox. ]]
* If there were a divine (or at least, supernatural) hand guiding the people and events involved, it would explain why Troy, Rowsdower and Satoris are able to converge in the right place and time to allow the city of Ziox to be restored and the cult to be destroyed.
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** This subtext, to me, paints Rowsdower as less of a “chunky, backwoods, loser” and more of a flawed HurtingHero hero who is [[MustMakeAmends desperately trying to fix the mistakes that he's made.]]
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* At the very least, Auntie may have known more than she was letting on. Why would she want her orphaned nephew to forget about his dead father unless she thought that digging into Thomas McGreggor's past would only bring trouble to Troy? It could be argued that she could've simply discarded the map if she knew it was so dangerous, but that still leaves the possibility (however remote) of the map falling into the wrong hands; it also wouldn't necessarily deter Satoris and the cult from coming after her and Troy.
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** Or perhaps she really was called into work and just didn't come home until after the cultists attacked the house. Troy's home is never revisited during the film, so it's possible she survived. [[FridgeHorror Then again,]] this introduces a whole new element of AdultFear to the movie. Troy's aunt has already lost her brother in suspicious circumstances, then she comes home after work to find the door chainsawed open, the house ransacked, and her young nephew missing. It's possible that while Troy was off adventuring with Rowsdower, his aunt was calling the police and frantically searching everywhere for him.
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** Or perhaps she really was called into work and just didn't come home until after the cultists attacked the house. Troy's home is never revisited during the film, so it's possible she survived. [[FridgeHorror Then again,]] this introduces a whole new element of AdultFear Adult Fear to the movie. Troy's aunt has already lost her brother in suspicious circumstances, then she comes home after work to find the door chainsawed open, the house ransacked, and her young nephew missing. It's possible that while Troy was off adventuring with Rowsdower, his aunt was calling the police and frantically searching everywhere for him.
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* However, he refused Satoris' command to kill Thomas McGreggor and even tried to save his life. This suggests that Rowsdower could resist Satoris' control to a certain extent. The "Half-blood" connection Rowsdower had to Satoris and the Ziox was enough to draw him to the cult and yet he could not be entierly given over to Satoris' control.
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* However, he refused Satoris' command to kill Thomas McGreggor [=McGreggor=] and even tried to save his life. This suggests that Rowsdower could resist Satoris' control to a certain extent. The "Half-blood" connection Rowsdower had to Satoris and the Ziox was enough to draw him to the cult and yet he could not be entierly given over to Satoris' control.
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[[WMG: The whole movie is a stealth homage/parody of [[ANewHope the first Star Wars movie]].]]
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[[WMG: Rowsdower is actually related to Ricky from [[TrailerParkBoys Trailer Park Boys]].]]
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[[WMG: Rowsdower is actually related to Ricky from [[TrailerParkBoys [[Series/TrailerParkBoys Trailer Park Boys]].]]
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** Or perhaps she really was called into work and didn't come home until after the cultists attacked the house. Troy's home is never revisited during the film, so it's possible she survived. [[FridgeHorror Then again,]] this introduces a whole new element of AdultFear to the movie. Troy's aunt has already lost her brother in suspicious circumstances, then she comes home after work to find the door chainsawed open, the house ransacked, and her young nephew missing. It's possible that while Troy was off adventuring with Rowsdower, his aunt was calling the police and frantically searching everywhere for him.
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** Or perhaps she really was called into work and just didn't come home until after the cultists attacked the house. Troy's home is never revisited during the film, so it's possible she survived. [[FridgeHorror Then again,]] this introduces a whole new element of AdultFear to the movie. Troy's aunt has already lost her brother in suspicious circumstances, then she comes home after work to find the door chainsawed open, the house ransacked, and her young nephew missing. It's possible that while Troy was off adventuring with Rowsdower, his aunt was calling the police and frantically searching everywhere for him.
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The cult happens to show up after she discovers the boy had found the map, and is never seen again. Maybe she told the cult. Maybe the cult got her by telling her she had to work the night shift.
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* The cult happens to show up after she discovers the boy had found the map, and is never seen again. Maybe she told the cult. Maybe the cult got her by telling her she had to work the night shift.
** Or perhaps she really was called into work and didn't come home until after the cultists attacked the house. Troy's home is never revisited during the film, so it's possible she survived. [[FridgeHorror Then again,]] this introduces a whole new element of AdultFear to the movie. Troy's aunt has already lost her brother in suspicious circumstances, then she comes home after work to find the door chainsawed open, the house ransacked, and her young nephew missing. It's possible that while Troy was off adventuring with Rowsdower, his aunt was calling the police and frantically searching everywhere for him.
** Or perhaps she really was called into work and didn't come home until after the cultists attacked the house. Troy's home is never revisited during the film, so it's possible she survived. [[FridgeHorror Then again,]] this introduces a whole new element of AdultFear to the movie. Troy's aunt has already lost her brother in suspicious circumstances, then she comes home after work to find the door chainsawed open, the house ransacked, and her young nephew missing. It's possible that while Troy was off adventuring with Rowsdower, his aunt was calling the police and frantically searching everywhere for him.
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* This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
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* This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.had.
[[WMG: Satoris and his cult are responsible for the death of Rowsdower's wife ]]
* When Rowsdower first entered the cult, he was a normal, HappilyMarried man. Whether the drums in his nightmares caused him to seek out the cult or Satoris tracked him down and forced him to join, Satoris had Rowsdower's wife killed, possibly because she tried to keep her husband from being pulled into the cult or because Satoris wanted to remove anyone who could compromise Rowsdower's loyalty to him. Either way, she died and her death marked the beginning of Rowsdower's hostility towards the cult. Several things in the film lead me to this theory:
## In one shot near the beginning, we see a picture of a smiling woman tucked next to the steering wheel of Rowsdower's car. I've read that this is a picture of Bruce Mitchell's (Rowsdower's actor) real-life wife. It's possible that Rowsdower keeps around a picture of his deceased wife as a TragicKeepsake.
## Rowsdower's [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]] could easily be seen as an attempt to [[DrowningMySorrows drown his sorrows.]]
## In the flashback to when Rowsdower received the brand on his arm, he looks visibly enraged and has to be tied up and restrained by other cult members. This is possibly right after the death of his wife and hints that Rowsdower might not have joined the cult willingly.
## When Troy asks about his past, Rowsdower makes vague references to being a businessman (possibly his true career before joining the cult?) before blowing off the rest of the question. His guilt for his involvement in Troy's father's death aside, it hints at something painful in his past that he doesn't want to talk about.
## When Pipper tells Rowsdower not to let the cult destroy his life, Rowsdower angrily replies that it already has. And it did, [[TheLostLenore it killed the love of his life.]]
## Rowsdower's attempt to save Thomas [=McGregor=] could be seen as an attempt [[TheAtoner to atone]] for [[MyGreatestFailure failing to save his wife.]] This comes up again when he goes to rescue Troy in the end. [[ItsPersonal It's also his way of taking revenge on Satoris.]]
** This subtext, to me, paints Rowsdower as less of a “chunky, backwoods, loser” and more of a flawed HurtingHero who is [[MustMakeAmends desperately trying to fix the mistakes that he's made.]]
[[WMG: Satoris and his cult are responsible for the death of Rowsdower's wife ]]
* When Rowsdower first entered the cult, he was a normal, HappilyMarried man. Whether the drums in his nightmares caused him to seek out the cult or Satoris tracked him down and forced him to join, Satoris had Rowsdower's wife killed, possibly because she tried to keep her husband from being pulled into the cult or because Satoris wanted to remove anyone who could compromise Rowsdower's loyalty to him. Either way, she died and her death marked the beginning of Rowsdower's hostility towards the cult. Several things in the film lead me to this theory:
## In one shot near the beginning, we see a picture of a smiling woman tucked next to the steering wheel of Rowsdower's car. I've read that this is a picture of Bruce Mitchell's (Rowsdower's actor) real-life wife. It's possible that Rowsdower keeps around a picture of his deceased wife as a TragicKeepsake.
## Rowsdower's [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]] could easily be seen as an attempt to [[DrowningMySorrows drown his sorrows.]]
## In the flashback to when Rowsdower received the brand on his arm, he looks visibly enraged and has to be tied up and restrained by other cult members. This is possibly right after the death of his wife and hints that Rowsdower might not have joined the cult willingly.
## When Troy asks about his past, Rowsdower makes vague references to being a businessman (possibly his true career before joining the cult?) before blowing off the rest of the question. His guilt for his involvement in Troy's father's death aside, it hints at something painful in his past that he doesn't want to talk about.
## When Pipper tells Rowsdower not to let the cult destroy his life, Rowsdower angrily replies that it already has. And it did, [[TheLostLenore it killed the love of his life.]]
## Rowsdower's attempt to save Thomas [=McGregor=] could be seen as an attempt [[TheAtoner to atone]] for [[MyGreatestFailure failing to save his wife.]] This comes up again when he goes to rescue Troy in the end. [[ItsPersonal It's also his way of taking revenge on Satoris.]]
** This subtext, to me, paints Rowsdower as less of a “chunky, backwoods, loser” and more of a flawed HurtingHero who is [[MustMakeAmends desperately trying to fix the mistakes that he's made.]]
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However, he refused Satoris' command to kill Thomas McGreggor and even tried to save his life. This suggests that Rowsdower could resist Satoris' control to a certain extent. The "Half-blood" connection Rowsdower had to Satoris and the Ziox was enough to draw him to the cult and yet he could not be entierly given over to Satoris' control.
This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
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* However, he refused Satoris' command to kill Thomas McGreggor and even tried to save his life. This suggests that Rowsdower could resist Satoris' control to a certain extent. The "Half-blood" connection Rowsdower had to Satoris and the Ziox was enough to draw him to the cult and yet he could not be entierly given over to Satoris' control.
* This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
* This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
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* Ricky Rowsdower.
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* Ricky Rowsdower.Rowsdower.
[[WMG: Satoris' Hatred of Rowsdower stems from his being a "Half-blood", but not (solely) because it makes Rowsdower "inferior".]]
* As far as we know, only Rowsdower has ever been able to break away from Satoris' cult. We know he was drawn to the cult, and was somehow (likely psychically) connected to Satoris through the brand on his arm, though which Satoris could torment him.
However, he refused Satoris' command to kill Thomas McGreggor and even tried to save his life. This suggests that Rowsdower could resist Satoris' control to a certain extent. The "Half-blood" connection Rowsdower had to Satoris and the Ziox was enough to draw him to the cult and yet he could not be entierly given over to Satoris' control.
This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
[[WMG: Satoris' Hatred of Rowsdower stems from his being a "Half-blood", but not (solely) because it makes Rowsdower "inferior".]]
* As far as we know, only Rowsdower has ever been able to break away from Satoris' cult. We know he was drawn to the cult, and was somehow (likely psychically) connected to Satoris through the brand on his arm, though which Satoris could torment him.
However, he refused Satoris' command to kill Thomas McGreggor and even tried to save his life. This suggests that Rowsdower could resist Satoris' control to a certain extent. The "Half-blood" connection Rowsdower had to Satoris and the Ziox was enough to draw him to the cult and yet he could not be entierly given over to Satoris' control.
This adds an interesting layer to Satoris' hatred of Rowsdower. On one level, he hates Rowsdower because, since he is a "half-blood", Satoris believes this makes Rowsdower inferior to himself and the rest of the cult. On another level, this "half-bloodedness" actually keeps Satoris from having full sway over Rowsdower. This "inferiority" would acutally give Rowsdower an advantage over Satoris that no one else had.
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[[WMG: Rowsdower is actually related to Ricky from [[Trailer Park Boys]].]]
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[[WMG: Rowsdower is actually related to Ricky from [[Trailer [[TrailerParkBoys Trailer Park Boys]].]]
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* Satoris: Dresses in black, speaks with an unnaturally deep voice, possesses vaguely-defined magical powers, leads an army of faceless ineffectual mooks (Darth Vader).
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* Satoris: Dresses in black, speaks with an unnaturally deep voice, possesses vaguely-defined magical powers, leads an army of faceless ineffectual mooks (Darth Vader).Vader).
[[WMG: Rowsdower is actually related to Ricky from [[Trailer Park Boys]].]]
* He lives in his truck.
* He seems to do nothing but drink and pass out for a living.
* He bears a physical resemblance to Ricky
* Ricky's last name is never used in the entire course of the series or the movies.
* Ricky Rowsdower.
[[WMG: Rowsdower is actually related to Ricky from [[Trailer Park Boys]].]]
* He lives in his truck.
* He seems to do nothing but drink and pass out for a living.
* He bears a physical resemblance to Ricky
* Ricky's last name is never used in the entire course of the series or the movies.
* Ricky Rowsdower.
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* Zapp: Gruff, cyncial, pragmatic former bad guy with a temperamental old vehicle, allegedly cooler than Troy (Han Solo).
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* Zapp: Gruff, cyncial, cynical, pragmatic former bad guy with a temperamental old vehicle, allegedly cooler than Troy (Han Solo).
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The cult happens to show up after she discovers the boy had found the map, and is never seen again. Maybe she told the cult. Maybe the cult got her by telling her she had to work the night shift.shift.
[[WMG: The whole movie is a stealth homage/parody of [[ANewHope the first Star Wars movie]].]]
Consider the following:
* Troy: whiny orphan raised by overbearing relative who doesn't want to talk about the past (Luke Skywalker).
* Zapp: Gruff, cyncial, pragmatic former bad guy with a temperamental old vehicle, allegedly cooler than Troy (Han Solo).
* Mike Pipper: Grizzled old hermit who was a friend of Troy's father, knows ancient mystical secrets, and occasionally smokes a pipe (Obi-Wan Kenobi).
* Satoris: Dresses in black, speaks with an unnaturally deep voice, possesses vaguely-defined magical powers, leads an army of faceless ineffectual mooks (Darth Vader).
[[WMG: The whole movie is a stealth homage/parody of [[ANewHope the first Star Wars movie]].]]
Consider the following:
* Troy: whiny orphan raised by overbearing relative who doesn't want to talk about the past (Luke Skywalker).
* Zapp: Gruff, cyncial, pragmatic former bad guy with a temperamental old vehicle, allegedly cooler than Troy (Han Solo).
* Mike Pipper: Grizzled old hermit who was a friend of Troy's father, knows ancient mystical secrets, and occasionally smokes a pipe (Obi-Wan Kenobi).
* Satoris: Dresses in black, speaks with an unnaturally deep voice, possesses vaguely-defined magical powers, leads an army of faceless ineffectual mooks (Darth Vader).
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