History WMG / TheEmpireStrikesBack

14th May '18 8:10:50 PM Malady
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* Are you saying that he's secretly a super-old [[DragonBallZ Piccolo]]?

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* Are you saying that he's secretly a super-old [[DragonBallZ [[Manga/DragonBallZ Piccolo]]?
7th May '18 11:25:05 PM TheSaddleman
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* The problem with the original WMG statement rationale is that there was no "master plan" involving the two prior to ESB. In fact ''Literature/SplinterOfTheMindsEye'', the novel commissioned initially as an alternate movie storyline, has numerous ShipTease moments between the two, including a sexually charged moment where Luke briefly admires Leia's body while she changes. One thing to keep in mind is, before Disney bought Lucasfilm, ''every'' spin-off novel was considered official canon by Lucas, including ''Splinter of the Mind's Eye''. Fortunately, it was the only novel featuring Luke and Leia to be published prior to ''Return of the Jedi'' and its big reveal, so it's the only "problematic" storyline. And, since Disney has now de-canonized all the novels published before ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', the point is now moot.




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* Surprisingly, even though droids in ''Star Wars'' are shown to use advanced AI, with C3PO and R2D2 in particular displaying unmistakable signs of sentience, the films have, to date, never established that any spacecraft use AIs.
19th Aug '17 5:59:07 AM HeraldAlberich
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...with a minimum of fuss. Throwing out old insults, basically being a jackass to him, bringing up a mutual old shame (read more about it in ''Scoundrels'' and the HanSoloTrilogy!)--and all of it meant to make Han pull a Cartman, tell Lando where to shove it, and fly away. Boom, no Solo, no trouble. Except Boba Fett and Vader were already there and very much in control; they basically point a gun at Lando's head, use Cloud City against him, and say Obey Or Die. And so he begrudginly lets Han in to the city, knowing [[OhCrap full damn well what's going to happen to all of them]].

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...with a minimum of fuss. Throwing out old insults, basically being a jackass to him, bringing up a mutual old shame (read more about it in ''Scoundrels'' and the HanSoloTrilogy!)--and Literature/TheHanSoloTrilogy!)--and all of it meant to make Han pull a Cartman, tell Lando where to shove it, and fly away. Boom, no Solo, no trouble. Except Boba Fett and Vader were already there and very much in control; they basically point a gun at Lando's head, use Cloud City against him, and say Obey Or Die. And so he begrudginly lets Han in to the city, knowing [[OhCrap full damn well what's going to happen to all of them]].
9th Apr '17 9:39:19 AM nombretomado
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* Alternatively, Crix Madine may have had something to do with it. He defected to the Rebellion [[RogueSquadron between Episodes IV and V]], but you never know how sincere he actually was.

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* Alternatively, Crix Madine may have had something to do with it. He defected to the Rebellion [[RogueSquadron [[VideoGame/RogueSquadron between Episodes IV and V]], but you never know how sincere he actually was.
21st Mar '17 7:25:16 AM Sordid
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* Or Yoda is just an old Kerbal.
28th Feb '17 7:28:25 PM AthenaBlue
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* Well, he visited it in ''The Clone Wars'', certainly.
27th Sep '16 10:42:45 PM TropesForever
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** [[TheChessmaster R2D2 knew where Yoda was hiding, and steered the ship towards his camp.]]

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** [[TheChessmaster R2D2 R2-D2 knew where Yoda was hiding, and steered the ship towards his camp.]]



* It's also possible that Lando's technicians did absolutely nothing in the first place. They didn't even touch the hyperdrive. Vader takes it as read that it's broken beyond repair, not counting on R2D2 being able to repair it.

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* It's also possible that Lando's technicians did absolutely nothing in the first place. They didn't even touch the hyperdrive. Vader takes it as read that it's broken beyond repair, not counting on R2D2 R2-D2 being able to repair it.
8th Mar '16 1:58:21 AM CountCoolRider
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** Luke locates Yoda so easily because Dagobah is a very small world. If I understand time dilation (and I don't,) a smaller planet = less gravitational force =
time passing more quickly relative to an observer under greater exertion, such as A) Lando and Vader on the "gas giant"-type Bespin or B) Han, Leia and Threepio jetting around at or approaching the speed of light. Yoda and Luke are the "old twin" of Einstein's thought experiment, having racked up significantly more relative "time" than the other characters.

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** Luke locates Yoda so easily because Dagobah is a very small world. If I understand time dilation (and I don't,) a smaller planet = less gravitational force =
= time passing more quickly relative to an observer under greater exertion, such as A) Lando and Vader on the "gas giant"-type Bespin or B) Han, Leia and Threepio jetting around at or approaching the speed of light. Yoda and Luke are the "old twin" of Einstein's thought experiment, having racked up significantly more relative "time" than the other characters.
8th Mar '16 1:53:55 AM CountCoolRider
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** Luke locates Yoda so easily because Dagobah is a very small world. If I understand time dilation (and I don't,) a smaller planet = less gravitational force =
time passing more quickly relative to an observer under greater exertion, such as A) Lando and Vader on the "gas giant"-type Bespin or B) Han, Leia and Threepio jetting around at or approaching the speed of light. Yoda and Luke are the "old twin" of Einstein's thought experiment, having racked up significantly more relative "time" than the other characters.
3rd Mar '16 7:39:46 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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[[WMG: Yoda visited Dagobah in his youth.]]
It's one of the worlds he visited as a Padawan/Knight, centuries before the events of the films. Because it was so long ago, the planet never got into galactic records and became a private planet for Yoda.
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