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[[WMG: The next chapter is Batman Beyond]]
*Wayne's leg-brace is a clear precursor to a powered exoskeleton, which Blake will use to compensate for his lack of martial prowess; and the Nolan-verse seems to have tech rivaling Beyond's already.
*As for what he'll call himself; assuming the name Batman would bring the criminal underworld out against him and null the heroic sacrifice, and he definitely won't go by Robin (it's his friggin' name), so he'll adopt the Nightwing persona.
*Working title: Beyond Batman
*Wayne's leg-brace is a clear precursor to a powered exoskeleton, which Blake will use to compensate for his lack of martial prowess; and the Nolan-verse seems to have tech rivaling Beyond's already.
*As for what he'll call himself; assuming the name Batman would bring the criminal underworld out against him and null the heroic sacrifice, and he definitely won't go by Robin (it's his friggin' name), so he'll adopt the Nightwing persona.
*Working title: Beyond Batman
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*** ''Or'', Bruce managed to narrow down his search by Alfred's preference and then asked around if a nice British gentleman ever came around each year and ordered the same drink. Once he knew the cafe, he and Selina might've gone there each day for lunch, just for the chance of meeting Alfred. Which would explain why Selina looked so bored in that final scene. Bruce has been dragging her there everyday! Yawn.
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*** ''Or'', Bruce managed to narrow down his search by Alfred's preference and then asked around if a nice British gentleman ever came around each year and ordered the same drink. Once he knew the cafe, he and Selina might've gone there each day for lunch, just for the chance of meeting Alfred. [[FridgeBrilliance Which would explain why Selina looked so bored in that final scene. scene.]] Bruce has been dragging her there everyday! Yawn.
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[[WMG: Bruce and Selina kept in touch with Alfred after the movie.]]
We see Alfred start to get up in the final scene. Despite the whole plan of "I wouldn't say a word to you, nor you to me," he was too emotionally moved to not say anything, so he went over and there was much hugging and rejoicing. The happy couple then continues to meet with him at the cafe on his annual holiday, exchanging Christmas cards and photos of their children. *Happy sigh*
We see Alfred start to get up in the final scene. Despite the whole plan of "I wouldn't say a word to you, nor you to me," he was too emotionally moved to not say anything, so he went over and there was much hugging and rejoicing. The happy couple then continues to meet with him at the cafe on his annual holiday, exchanging Christmas cards and photos of their children. *Happy sigh*
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** There's actually a few ways they could've done it.
*** Bruce might've asked Alfred the name of the cafe off-screen, just out of curiosity. Or Alfred has mentioned his favorite cafe in Florence before, but just never in that context, so Bruce always knew.
***''Or'', Bruce managed to narrow down his search by Alfred's preference and then asked around if a nice British gentleman ever came around each year and ordered the same drink. Once he knew the cafe, he and Selina might've gone there each day for lunch, just for the chance of meeting Alfred. Which would explain why Selina looked so bored in that final scene. Bruce has been dragging her there everyday! Yawn.
***''Or'', they always kept tabs on Alfred and knew when he was taking his vacation, and followed him the moment he got off the plane at Florence so they could stage a meeting.
*** Bruce might've asked Alfred the name of the cafe off-screen, just out of curiosity. Or Alfred has mentioned his favorite cafe in Florence before, but just never in that context, so Bruce always knew.
***''Or'', Bruce managed to narrow down his search by Alfred's preference and then asked around if a nice British gentleman ever came around each year and ordered the same drink. Once he knew the cafe, he and Selina might've gone there each day for lunch, just for the chance of meeting Alfred. Which would explain why Selina looked so bored in that final scene. Bruce has been dragging her there everyday! Yawn.
***''Or'', they always kept tabs on Alfred and knew when he was taking his vacation, and followed him the moment he got off the plane at Florence so they could stage a meeting.
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[[WMG: Bruce is only taking an extended break; at some point he will return to Gotham as Batman, this time with Selina by his side]]
We all know that Bruce is way too obsessed to ever really give up on being Batman. Even though he knows the city is in good hands, it's inevitable that at some point he'll feel the need to intervene again; possibly if and when the Joker escapes (Heath Ledger is deceased, RIP, but as far as we know the Joker is still alive in the Nolan-verse), Bruce will decide that he can't justify letting Robin face him alone, and he and Selina will return to Gotham, rested and refreshed, and ready to fight evil once more.
We all know that Bruce is way too obsessed to ever really give up on being Batman. Even though he knows the city is in good hands, it's inevitable that at some point he'll feel the need to intervene again; possibly if and when the Joker escapes (Heath Ledger is deceased, RIP, but as far as we know the Joker is still alive in the Nolan-verse), Bruce will decide that he can't justify letting Robin face him alone, and he and Selina will return to Gotham, rested and refreshed, and ready to fight evil once more.
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[[WMG: The last name Bruce and Selena selected as their new identity is "Bertinelli"]]
Naturally, their first and only child, a daughter, will be named Helena and will take up the family business as The Huntress after they die in an unfortunate accident, probably having an apprenticeship as sidekick to Robin Blake's Batman first.
Naturally, their first and only child, a daughter, will be named Helena and will take up the family business as The Huntress after they die in an unfortunate accident, probably having an apprenticeship as sidekick to Robin Blake's Batman first.
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Alfred hired his secret son in law to do it before Mal died. Fischer is there because he either went crazy after being incepted and turned into the scarecrow. He changed his name because he didn't want to be associated with his father's company so he could truly become his own man. (if it was after the inception and Talia was just looking like mal to screw with the architect and was also a forger like Eams) Or he is a disgraced twin brother.
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[[WMG: The only reason Crane is running the KangarooCourt is...]]
...because he's the only person in the Nolan Batman universe with a Ph.D, and lorded it over all the other criminals until Bane caved and gave him the job to shut him up.
...because he's the only person in the Nolan Batman universe with a Ph.D, and lorded it over all the other criminals until Bane caved and gave him the job to shut him up.
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*** Unless Alfred went to the cafe ''just to sit there'', the record of his purchases of food and drink would probably be on his credit account. Between the two of them, he and Selina could surely hack that information, even without whatever special file-cracking app they could reverse-engineer from Clean Slate.
** Umm or its a coincidence.
** Umm or its a coincidence.
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After he was rescued by the League of Shadows, he joined them briefly but was thrown out due to lack of ambition.
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[[WMG: Bane is really Bronson]]
After causing so much trouble in the UK's prison system, Bronson was dumped in the pit at Pene Dura.
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Umm or its a coincidence.
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** Not only that but they had no idea when exactly Alfred was gonna visit Florence, or if he was gonna visit Florence at all; maybe he was so grief-stricken by Bruce's death that he didn't want to visit Florence or the cafe anymore? Did Bruce and Selina hire a private detective to follow Alfred every day, so that they would know if and when he buys tickets to Florence? Did they move to Florence and sit in that cafe every day, so that they would be there when Alfred eventually visits it? (But what if he never comes?) Both options sound quite unlikely. The only way they could make sure he comes to Florence and to the cafe is to send Alfred an anonymous invitation to come visit the place, but in that case Alfred would've guessed the letter is from Bruce, and he wouldn't have looked as surprised as he did when he saw Bruce and Selina. Plus the whole trip would've been unnecessary, because the letter alone would've told Alfred that Bruce is alive. So it makes much more sense that the scene in the cafe wasn't real. Maybe Alfred did actually visit the cafe, but Bruce and Selina being there was merely a bittersweet product of his imagination.
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* Now that you mention it, it does seem kind of suspicious that Bruce and Selina knew ''exactly'' which cafe to go to, and that they knew ''exactly'' what time to be there to see Alfred. When Alfred first told Bruce about his recurring dream, he never actually told him which cafe in Florence that he vacationed at. Even for someone like Bruce Wayne, "a cafe in Florence" probably isn't enough information to pinpoint an exact location.
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Notice how the scene where Alfred sees Bruce and Selina in the cafe is rather dreamlike, reminiscent of Cobb's vision of his kids in ''{{Inception}}''? That's because it ''is'' a dream, it's just Alfred imagining the happy ending he had wished for Bruce that never came to be. As for the autopilot thing, all we know is that Bruce had updated The Bat with an autopilot program, but maybe it didn't work properly, or maybe Bruce didn't trust it enough to carry out such a crucial mission, so he chose to stay to fly manually until the bomb exploded. Look at scene where Batman is flying above the sea: the time that elapses between the last shot of him in the cockpit and the bomb's explosion is way too short for him to have made it outside of the bomb's radius. And it's not like there's some missing time between those shots, during the finale the clock is ticking in real time. And the fixed Batsignal Commissioner Gordon finds? Before his death, Bruce simply fixed it himself, or arranged someone else to do it, trusting that Blake would take up the mantle of Batman after him.
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Notice how the scene where Alfred sees Bruce and Selina in the cafe is rather dreamlike, reminiscent of Cobb's vision of his kids in ''{{Inception}}''? That's because it ''is'' a dream, dream: it's just Alfred imagining the happy ending he had wished for Bruce that never came to be. As for the autopilot thing, all we know is that Bruce had updated The Bat with an autopilot program, but maybe it didn't work properly, or maybe Bruce didn't trust it enough to carry out such a crucial mission, so he chose to stay to fly manually until the bomb exploded. Look at scene where Batman is flying above the sea: the time that elapses between the last shot of him in the cockpit and the bomb's explosion is way too short for him to have made it outside of the bomb's radius. And it's not like there's some missing time between those shots, during the finale the clock is ticking in real time. And the fixed Batsignal Commissioner Gordon finds? Before his death, Bruce simply fixed it himself, or arranged someone else to do it, trusting that Blake would take up the mantle of Batman after him.
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Notice how the scene where Alfred sees Bruce and Selina in the cafe is rather dreamlike, reminiscent of Cobb's vision of his kids in ''{{Inception}}''? That's because it ''is'' a dream, it's just Alfred imagining the happy ending he had wished for Bruce that never came to be. As for the autopilot thing, all we know is that Bruce had updated The Bat with an autopilot program, but maybe it didn't work properly, or maybe Bruce didn't trust it enough to carry out such a crucial mission, so he chose to stay to fly manually until the bomb exploded. Look at scene where Batman is flying above the sea: the time that elapses between the last shot of him in the cockpit and the bomb's explosion is way too short for him to have made it outside of the bomb's radius. And it's not like there's some missing time between those shots, during the finale the clock is ticking in real time. As for the fixed Batsignal for Commissioner Gordon, before his death Bruce simply fixed it himself, or arranged someone to do it, trusting that Blake would take up the mantle of Batman after his death.
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Notice how the scene where Alfred sees Bruce and Selina in the cafe is rather dreamlike, reminiscent of Cobb's vision of his kids in ''{{Inception}}''? That's because it ''is'' a dream, it's just Alfred imagining the happy ending he had wished for Bruce that never came to be. As for the autopilot thing, all we know is that Bruce had updated The Bat with an autopilot program, but maybe it didn't work properly, or maybe Bruce didn't trust it enough to carry out such a crucial mission, so he chose to stay to fly manually until the bomb exploded. Look at scene where Batman is flying above the sea: the time that elapses between the last shot of him in the cockpit and the bomb's explosion is way too short for him to have made it outside of the bomb's radius. And it's not like there's some missing time between those shots, during the finale the clock is ticking in real time. As for And the fixed Batsignal for Commissioner Gordon, before Gordon finds? Before his death death, Bruce simply fixed it himself, or arranged someone else to do it, trusting that Blake would take up the mantle of Batman after his death.
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[[WMG: Bruce Wayne does really die in the end of the movie.]]
Notice how the scene where Alfred sees Bruce and Selina in the cafe is rather dreamlike, reminiscent of Cobb's vision of his kids in ''{{Inception}}''? That's because it ''is'' a dream, it's just Alfred imagining the happy ending he had wished for Bruce that never came to be. As for the autopilot thing, all we know is that Bruce had updated The Bat with an autopilot program, but maybe it didn't work properly, or maybe Bruce didn't trust it enough to carry out such a crucial mission, so he chose to stay to fly manually until the bomb exploded. Look at scene where Batman is flying above the sea: the time that elapses between the last shot of him in the cockpit and the bomb's explosion is way too short for him to have made it outside of the bomb's radius. And it's not like there's some missing time between those shots, during the finale the clock is ticking in real time. As for the fixed Batsignal for Commissioner Gordon, before his death Bruce simply fixed it himself, or arranged someone to do it, trusting that Blake would take up the mantle of Batman after his death.
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[[WMG: Batman/Bruce was being Incepted by the idea that he should move on. Or had his memories of Rachel's acceptance Extracted.]]
Alfred hired his secret son in law to do it before Mal died. Fischer is there because he had a twin who worked in Gotham.
[[WMG: Batman/Bruce was being Incepted by the idea that he should move on. Or had his memories of Rachel's acceptance Extracted.]]
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That superhero's name? [[spoiler: AQUAMAN!]] What, you didn't think [[spoiler: you could detonate a nuclear warhead in the ocean]] without any resultant consequences, did you? It's likely that [[spoiler: the blast reached Atlantis]], and at the very least, [[spoiler: an Atlantean warrior will come to the surface world to investigate what happened]]. Take it from there. The sequel possibilities are endless.
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That superhero's name? [[spoiler: AQUAMAN!]] What, you didn't think [[spoiler: you could detonate a nuclear warhead in the ocean]] ocean without any resultant consequences, did you? It's likely that [[spoiler: the blast reached Atlantis]], and at the very least, [[spoiler: an Atlantean warrior will come to the surface world to investigate what happened]]. Take it from there. The sequel possibilities are endless.
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That superhero's name? [[spoiler: AQUAMAN!]] What, you didn't think [[spoiler: you could detonate a nuclear warhead in the ocean]] without any resultant consequences, did you? It's likely that [[spoiler: the blast reached Atlantis]], and at the very least, [[spoiler: an Atlantean warrior will come to the surface world to investigate what happened]]. Take it from there. The sequel possibilities are endless.
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That superhero's name? [[spoiler: AQUAMAN!]] What, you didn't think [[spoiler: you could detonate a nuclear warhead in the ocean]] without any resultant consequences, did you? It's likely that [[spoiler: the blast reached Atlantis]], and at the very least, [[spoiler: an Atlantean warrior will come to the surface world to investigate what happened]]. Take it from there. The sequel possibilities are endless.endless.
* The teaser for Man of Steel that was attached to the Dark Knight? It opens up on the ocean, featuring a fishing boat...I HONESTLY thought it was for an Aquaman film at first!
* The teaser for Man of Steel that was attached to the Dark Knight? It opens up on the ocean, featuring a fishing boat...I HONESTLY thought it was for an Aquaman film at first!
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That superhero's name? [[spoiler: AQUAMAN!]] What, you didn't think [[spoiler: you could detonate a nuclear warhead in the ocean]] without any resultant consequences, did you? It's likely that [[spoiler: the blast reached Atlantis]], and at the very least, [[spoiler: an Atlantean warrior will come to the surface world to investigate what happened]]. Take it from there. The sequel possibilities are endless.
