History WMG / TheBindingOfIsaac

24th Feb '17 12:20:07 PM greatpikminfan
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As many people have pointed out, Ending 14 [[spoilers:shows a photo of Isaac's mother and father out in the park with a happy girl wearing pink who has Magdalene's blonde wig]]; Word of God has confirmed that Isaac has no siblings, so we can only interpret this girl as Isaac. [[spoilers:A photo that comes after this in the same ending has an unhappy, bald Isaac wearing green.]] Isaac also has a nightmare about being presented with the wig, being extremely happy upon putting it on, and then crying when other children laugh at her. It's possible that Isaac has identified as a girl since being very young. Isaac's mother and father were accepting at first because they assumed their "son" was just playing dress-up or going through what they saw as a passing childhood phase, but as Isaac got older, her father became less accepting and thus left -- which was what drove her mother off the deep end as she blamed Isaac for driving the father out. Alternatively, both of her parents became less accepting as she got older, and they told her being herself wasn't right, possibly influencing her fear of being teased as in the dream.

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As many people have pointed out, Ending 14 [[spoilers:shows [[spoiler:shows a photo of Isaac's mother and father out in the park with a happy girl wearing pink who has Magdalene's blonde wig]]; Word of God has confirmed that Isaac has no siblings, so we can only interpret this girl as Isaac. [[spoilers:A [[spoiler:A photo that comes after this in the same ending has an unhappy, bald Isaac wearing green.]] Isaac also has a nightmare about being presented with the wig, being extremely happy upon putting it on, and then crying when other children laugh at her. It's possible that Isaac has identified as a girl since being very young. Isaac's mother and father were accepting at first because they assumed their "son" was just playing dress-up or going through what they saw as a passing childhood phase, but as Isaac got older, her father became less accepting and thus left -- which was what drove her mother off the deep end as she blamed Isaac for driving the father out. Alternatively, both of her parents became less accepting as she got older, and they told her being herself wasn't right, possibly influencing her fear of being teased as in the dream.



With all this, it can be concluded that Keeper represents the Body, ??? represents the Mind, and the Lost represents the Soul. (though nobody ever questioned that last part)

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With all this, it can be concluded that Keeper represents the Body, ??? represents the Mind, and the Lost represents the Soul. (though nobody ever questioned that last part)part)

[[WMG:Azazel, in addition to being how Isaac sees himself as a demon, is some kind of ParodySue-ish character out-universe]]

Most of the other characters just have one or two visual traits that separate them from the base Isaac (Cain's eyepatch, Judas' fez, Magdalene's hair and bow, etc) or are just Isaac in various states of death (???, Keeper, and the Lost), along with an item or two. Azazel, on the other hand, is a flying red-eyed demon that can shoot blood lasers, has asymmetrical horns, pitch-black hair, and is extremely powerful to boot. Heck, he can even teleport, by means of starting off with a Fool card. It just kind of brings to mind something like [[https://youtu.be/OenjX3oiP_s?t=274 this.]]

So... maybe Azazel is also some kind of character in Isaac's drawings that embodies what he "thinks might be cool?" (If sinful?) No idea about Eden, Lilith, or especially Apollyon though.
25th Jan '17 3:41:55 PM Xtifr
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The first run of the game always ends [[spoiler:with the reveal that it was a story he was illustrating]], but then [[spoiler:Mom bursts in and tries to kill him for real.]] Because he subconsciously associated his mother's overzealous Christianity with her increasing neglect, he incorporates Christian symbolism in with various monsters he dreamed up for the story. As things go on, elements of past drawings incorporate themselves into his story, particularly his [[VideoGame/MeatBoy earlier]] [[TimeFcuk works]]. At some point, he realizes what happened and decides to draw [[DrivenToSuicide his mother aborting him]] in an attempt to prevent this all from happening. After [[spoiler:killing himself as a fetus]], he goes on to either heaven or hell. If he reaches heaven, he must destroy himself as a consequence for the paradox he created before. Afterwards, he either [[PuffOfLogic ceases to exist]], or, if he has the Polaroid, convinces himself it was AllJustADream, negating everything that happened.

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The first run of the game always ends [[spoiler:with the reveal that it was a story he was illustrating]], but then [[spoiler:Mom bursts in and tries to kill him for real.]] Because he subconsciously associated his mother's overzealous Christianity with her increasing neglect, he incorporates Christian symbolism in with various monsters he dreamed up for the story. As things go on, elements of past drawings incorporate themselves into his story, particularly his [[VideoGame/MeatBoy earlier]] [[TimeFcuk [[VideoGame/TimeFcuk works]]. At some point, he realizes what happened and decides to draw [[DrivenToSuicide his mother aborting him]] in an attempt to prevent this all from happening. After [[spoiler:killing himself as a fetus]], he goes on to either heaven or hell. If he reaches heaven, he must destroy himself as a consequence for the paradox he created before. Afterwards, he either [[PuffOfLogic ceases to exist]], or, if he has the Polaroid, convinces himself it was AllJustADream, negating everything that happened.
23rd Jan '17 9:37:22 PM CrazedNinja
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Think about it: Isaac is just a kid, can he really be capable of harboring such horrific manifestations of greed, lust, sloth, etc.? No. He's just heard his mother talk about sin, and internalized all that talk to assume -- and to fear -- that he contains all these horrible sins that he has to battle and kill before they consume him. [[YourMindMakesItReal They're really just the manifestations of that fear, not manifestations of the sins themselves.]]

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Think about it: Isaac is just a kid, can he really be capable of harboring such horrific manifestations of greed, lust, sloth, etc.? No. He's just heard his mother talk about sin, and internalized all that talk to assume -- and to fear -- that he contains all these horrible sins that he has to battle and kill before they consume him. [[YourMindMakesItReal They're really just the manifestations of that fear, not manifestations of the sins themselves.]]]]

[[WMG: ??? represents Isaac's mind, rather than his body.]]
The Lost has three items that it can unlock by defeating ???, Satan, and the Lamb: The Body, the Mind, and the Soul, respectively. If ??? represents Isaac's body and the Lost represents his soul, then it stands to reason that there must be a character who represents his mind as well. But who could it be? Magdalene, who seems to be Isaac's most commonly used "persona"? Azazel, who, like ??? and the Lost, starts with no red hearts? Apollyon, who might represent [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind the Void]]? None of the above. Isaac's mind is, in fact, ???.

Isaac's body is instead represented by Keeper, as evidenced by the username of Greed's official CharacterBlog, "[[http://www.twitter.com/iamisaacsbody iamisaacsbody]]". Keeper, unlike Azazel, but much like ??? and the Lost, can't collect red hearts at all. He instead collects coins for health, and coins, like the body, have a physical presence, as opposed to Soul Hearts or, in the Lost's case, nothing.

???'s appearance is how Isaac imagines his own dead body: A cartoonish, blue corpse with X's for eyes and [[NoDeadBodyPoops nothing but poop as a means of defense]]. Keeper, on the other hand, is what remains of Isaac's actual body: A colorless, shriveled, and highly unsettling carcass whose organs decayed long ago.

If that's not enough evidence, consider each character's debut. ??? first appeared in the original Flash game, which took place entirely in Isaac's mind. Every level, every cutscene, not once do we see so much as a glimpse of Isaac's real life before the Halloween update and, by extension, ''Wrath of the Lamb''. And even then, defeating ???, the definitive final boss of [=WotL=], yields an ending consisting of photos of Isaac's memories, the deepest part of his mind. Then comes ''Rebirth'', the first appearance of the Lost. Rebirth really piles on the evidence that Isaac is dead, with only his soul remaining. Afterbirth then introduces Keeper, along with a new ending that outright confirms that Isaac is dead, with Mom opening the chest and finding - you guessed it - Isaac's body.

With all this, it can be concluded that Keeper represents the Body, ??? represents the Mind, and the Lost represents the Soul. (though nobody ever questioned that last part)
16th Jan '17 11:01:18 AM Luigifan
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When he sees his mother finding solace from her grief in her faith, he flips open a Bible. He's terrified. "This kid is called Isaac! I bet Mom wants me dead too!" Gameplay is a psychonautical mental battle, for Isaac's belief in his right to exist. The different playable characters are his different personality facets, Satan is his sins, Isaac 2 is his resulting regret at existing (that's why "II"ssac looks so happy when he dies), and ??? is his subsequent suicidal urges.

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When he sees his mother finding solace from her grief in her faith, he flips open a Bible. He's terrified. "This kid is called Isaac! I bet Mom wants me dead too!" Gameplay is a psychonautical mental battle, for Isaac's belief in his right to exist. The different playable characters are his different personality facets, facets; Satan is his sins, Isaac 2 is his resulting regret at existing (that's why "II"ssac looks so happy when he dies), and ??? is his subsequent suicidal urges.




[[WMG: Larry, Jr is a successful experiment of a [[Film/TheHumanCentipede human centipede]]]]

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\n** The final ending in ''Afterbirth+'' (and the final ending of ''Afterbirth'' before it) confirm that [[spoiler:Isaac died in the chest]].

[[WMG: Larry, Jr Larry Jr. is a successful experiment of a [[Film/TheHumanCentipede human centipede]]]]




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** [[spoiler:It turns out that ''Isaac'' was the one having delusions...]]



[[WMG: Almost every enemy is a possible BadFuture for Isaac]]

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[[WMG: Almost every enemy is a possible BadFuture for Isaac]]Isaac.]]



* Confirmed, of sorts - WordOfGod has stated that every enemy is also Isaac. Of course, what that means and whether it's literal or symbolic is up to you.

[[WMG: Isaac is an abused, unwanted child, and/or the spawn of Satan -- Either way, he wants to return to the womb and start over]]
He's naked. He has no possessions. His weapons are all body fluids. Most enemies resemble Isaac. "It Lives" IS Isaac as a fetus. Every form of Isaac is him dressed as a potential version of Isaac in the future. XXX/??? the Dead Baby -- to whom Isaac reacts in absolute horror -- is obtained AFTER YOU KILL ISAAC'S FETUS FORM. Every power-up mutates Isaac as well, representing future versions of him.

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* Confirmed, of sorts - -- WordOfGod has stated that every enemy is also Isaac. Of course, what that means and whether it's literal or symbolic is up to you.

[[WMG: Isaac is an abused, unwanted child, and/or the spawn of Satan -- Either way, he wants to return to the womb and start over]]
over.]]
He's naked. He has no possessions. His weapons are all body fluids. Most enemies resemble Isaac. "It Lives" IS ''is'' Isaac as a fetus. Every form of Isaac is him dressed as a potential version of Isaac in the future. XXX/??? the Dead Baby -- to whom Isaac reacts in absolute horror -- is obtained AFTER YOU KILL ISAAC'S FETUS FORM. Every power-up mutates Isaac as well, representing future versions of him.



** And then it's all but confirmed by [[spoiler:the ending you get by beating Mega Satan, where Isaac actually ''BECOMES A DEMON''. However, the ending you get for beating the Lamb is more along the lines of ScrewThisImOuttaHere.]]

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** And then it's all but confirmed by [[spoiler:the ending you get by beating Mega Satan, where Isaac actually ''BECOMES A DEMON''. However, the ending you get for beating the Lamb is more along the lines of ScrewThisImOuttaHere.ScrewThisImOuttaHere... at first glance. The endings you get for beating Hush and Delirium confirm that Isaac killed himself.]]




[[WMG: To go with the above, [[spoiler: Satan in-game is actually Isaac's dad]]]]

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\n*** '''COMFIRMED!!!''' Sort of. [[spoiler:The entire game was Isaac's DyingDream as he asphyxiated in his airtight chest!]]

[[WMG: To go with the above, [[spoiler: Satan [[spoiler:Satan in-game is actually Isaac's dad]]]]



Jossed in the remake. As far as we know, it's [[spoiler:Mega Satan. And we still have yet to see the TRUE true ending.]]

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* Jossed in the remake. As far as we know, it's [[spoiler:Mega Satan. And we still have yet to see the TRUE true ending.]]
** Welp. [[spoiler:We've seen the ''true'' true ending. And the Very Definitely TrueFinalBoss is... an embodiment of Isaac's insanity. Mmmkay then.]]



Mom never heard God´s voice. It was [[spoiler:Satan]], who tried to corrupt someone.

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Mom never heard God´s voice. It was [[spoiler:Satan]], who tried to corrupt someone.\\



[[WMG: His mother wants to kill Isaac because of the father.]]

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[[WMG: His Isaac's mother wants to kill Isaac him because of the father.]]



** Ending 13 shows that [[spoiler:his father left the family]].

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** Ending 13 13[[note]]14 in Rebirth[[/note]] shows that [[spoiler:his father left the family]].
*** And we get to see the circumstances behind said ParentalAbandonment in Ending 20.




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* Confirmed, the whole game is all in Isaac's head. [[spoiler:[[DyingDream It's the product of his brain shutting down]].]]



Isaac is very young. One might assume pre-school age. Possibly even younger considering some of the many references to Number One and poop through the game. Too young to toilet train or fascinated by bodily fluids (including his tears of course) - possibly both - or just a case of a kid that is having trouble with the concept using the toilet yet (though you will see that I think the first as I continue). But he is also very smart. Possibly a young genius type that is too smart for his life experience. He is also possibly completely aware of his entire life from the point he was in his mother's womb with a brain developed enough to learn, to his current age... and his brain is only learning faster. A true wunderkind.

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Isaac is very young. One might assume pre-school age. Possibly even younger considering some of the many references to Number One and poop through the game. Too young to toilet train or fascinated by bodily fluids (including his tears of course) - -- possibly both - -- or just a case of a kid that is having trouble with the concept using the toilet yet (though you will see that I think the first as I continue). But he is also very smart. Possibly a young genius type that is too smart for his life experience. He is also possibly completely aware of his entire life from the point he was in his mother's womb with a brain developed enough to learn, to his current age... and his brain is only learning faster. A true wunderkind.



* [[spoiler:Well, the Dark Room is a stereotypical final dungeon -- it's a dimension of pure darkness, for crying out loud! I dunno what the Lamb is -- probably some demon trying (and [[EpicFail epically]] [[PaperThinDisguise failing]]) to pass itself off as Jesus Christ Himself. (Seriously, the upside-down cross on the forehead isn't helping its case.) As for why it's fought ''[[DragonTheirFeet after]]'' Satan, your guess is as good as mine -- [[AvengingTheVillain maybe seeking revenge]] against the guy who offed its boss. Mega Satan, on the other hand, is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin clearly Satan gone]] OneWingedAngel -- because when ''{{Satan}} himself'' isn't enough of a challenge, well, [[IAmNotLeftHanded maybe it's because he was holding back?]]]]

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* [[spoiler:Well, the Dark Room is a stereotypical final dungeon -- it's a dimension of pure darkness, for crying out loud! I dunno what the Lamb is -- probably some demon trying (and [[EpicFail epically]] [[PaperThinDisguise failing]]) to pass itself off as Jesus Christ Himself. (Seriously, the upside-down cross on the forehead isn't helping its case.) As for why it's fought ''[[DragonTheirFeet after]]'' Satan, your guess is as good as mine -- [[AvengingTheVillain maybe seeking revenge]] against the guy who offed its boss. Mega Satan, on the other hand, is [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin clearly Satan gone]] OneWingedAngel -- because when ''{{Satan}} himself'' isn't enough of a challenge, well, [[IAmNotLeftHanded maybe it's because he was holding back?]]]]
back?]] Then Hush is asphyxiation, and Delirium is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.]]



* Puberty pills can be found after Wrath of the Lamb, suggesting that Isaac is changing more and more.

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* Puberty pills can be found after Wrath ''Wrath of the Lamb, Lamb'', suggesting that Isaac is changing more and more.



* [[spoiler:Confirmed with ending 13]].

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed with ending 13]].
13.]]



Completing [[spoiler:The Cathedral]] with six characters unlocks an item called the Polaroid. Take it into the fight with [[spoiler:Isaac]], and rather than fighting him, you instead fight [[spoiler:??? / Bluebaby. By the end of the fight, he will rise in a column of light and AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, just like Isaac did in his previous fights with him.]] After this, Ending 12 makes a lot more sense. [[spoiler:His previous suicide attempt failed and turned him into Bluebaby. However, he managed to free himself and send himself to heaven by defeating him. This sinks in right after he does so... and he then realizes that he must kill himself and turn himself into Bluebaby once more to get his redemption and peace.]]

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Completing [[spoiler:The Cathedral]] with six characters unlocks an item called the Polaroid. Take it into the fight with [[spoiler:Isaac]], and rather than fighting him, you instead fight [[spoiler:??? / Bluebaby.[[spoiler:???[=/=]Blue Baby. By the end of the fight, he will rise in a column of light and AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, just like Isaac did in his previous fights with him.]] After this, Ending 12 makes a lot more sense. [[spoiler:His previous suicide attempt failed and turned him into Bluebaby. However, he managed to free himself and send himself to heaven by defeating him. This sinks in right after he does so... and he then realizes that he must kill himself and turn himself into Bluebaby Blue Baby once more to get his redemption and peace.]]




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** CONFIRMED!!! Ending 20 in ''Afterbirth+'' [[MindScrewdriver shows us what happened]].



When you kill [[spoiler:Isaac, it represents Isaac deciding that he is indeed corrupted by sin and should bring himself out of the world.]] However, there are two primary reasons for this theory: One, it's a goddamn [[spoiler:toybox!]] The things would surely be childproofed. And two, the True Final Boss is [[spoiler:the Blue Baby, representing Isaac's death by suffocation.]] In the final ending, you ''kill him,'' and in doing so, Isaac decides that [[spoiler:though life is hard, those happy memories are worth it, and he'll persevere.]]
* Note that in order to fight [[spoiler:Blue Baby]], you have to obtain The Polaroid, a memento of those happier times. Without it, [[spoiler:Isaac gives in to despair]] -- but with it, [[spoiler:he realizes that there's still hope.]]

Or gets bored of waiting to [[spoiler:suffocate in a toy box that isn't airtight,]] whichever.

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When you kill [[spoiler:Isaac, it represents Isaac deciding that he is indeed corrupted by sin and should bring himself out of the world.]] However, there are two primary reasons for this theory: One, it's a goddamn [[spoiler:toybox!]] The things would surely be childproofed. And two, the True Final Boss TrueFinalBoss is [[spoiler:the Blue Baby, representing Isaac's death by suffocation.]] In the final ending, you ''kill him,'' and in doing so, Isaac decides that [[spoiler:though life is hard, those happy memories are worth it, and he'll persevere.]]
persevere]].
* Note that in order to fight [[spoiler:Blue Baby]], you have to obtain The Polaroid, a memento of those happier times. Without it, [[spoiler:Isaac gives in to despair]] -- but with it, [[spoiler:he realizes that there's still hope.]]

hope]].

Or gets bored of waiting to [[spoiler:suffocate in a toy box that isn't airtight,]] airtight]], whichever.



[[WMG: [[MagicTheGathering Cruel]] [[http://media.tumblr.com/ccbeafa358ed0085e1e0235d5a538c0b/tumblr_inline_n7nfjvct9T1rq0wgw.png Sadist]] is Isaac's mother at a young age.]]

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[[WMG: [[MagicTheGathering [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Cruel]] [[http://media.tumblr.com/ccbeafa358ed0085e1e0235d5a538c0b/tumblr_inline_n7nfjvct9T1rq0wgw.png Sadist]] is Isaac's mother at a young age.]]




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* [[spoiler:HaHaHaNo. I was wrong, there's no GoldenEnding. [[DeadAllAlong The whole thing]] was the DyingDream of a suicidal kid suffocating himself to death.]]



[[WMG: The final boss of the Rebirth expansion will be [[spoiler: Azazel]].]]

Given that we've fought [[spoiler: Isaac himself]] and [[spoiler: Isaac's corpse]], it makes perfect sense to fight [[spoiler: his demon form]].

* [[spoiler:Jossed. There are two new major bosses: Hush, a Bonus Boss who seems to be a suffocated Isaac or ???, and Ultra Greed, the final boss of Greed Mode.]]

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[[WMG: The final boss of the Rebirth expansion will be [[spoiler: Azazel]].[[spoiler:Azazel]].]]

Given that we've fought [[spoiler: Isaac [[spoiler:Isaac himself]] and [[spoiler: Isaac's [[spoiler:Isaac's corpse]], it makes perfect sense to fight [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his demon form]].

* [[spoiler:Jossed. There are two new major bosses: Hush, a Bonus Boss BonusBoss who seems to be a suffocated Isaac or ???, and Ultra Greed, the final boss of Greed Mode.]]
** And [[TrueFinalBoss the final final final boss]] is [[spoiler:Delirium, who represents the insanity that led Isaac to his death.]]



That makes the BASE MENT seed Isaac's parent's ultimate triumph, since after the Item Pools are exhausted, the only thing left is Breakfast, which is why Isaac's parents played this game with him: to get him to eat his meals.

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That makes the BASE MENT seed Isaac's parent's parents' ultimate triumph, since after the Item Pools are exhausted, the only thing left is Breakfast, which is why Isaac's parents played this game with him: to get him to eat his meals.



Greed is probably the most popular of the Seven Sin bosses, even receiving his own mode of sorts in ''Afterbirth''. Also, [[spoiler: the ending you receive for clearing Greed Mode implies that Greed is yet another aspect of Isaac. In this case, he's what Isaac becomes when he hangs himself after being trapped in a secret room by a cave-in. On top of that, the ending ends with Greed smiling--happiness that he'll soon get his day?]]

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Greed is probably the most popular of the Seven Sin bosses, even receiving his own mode of sorts in ''Afterbirth''. Also, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the ending you receive for clearing Greed Mode implies that Greed is yet another aspect of Isaac. In this case, he's what Isaac becomes when he hangs himself after being trapped in a secret room by a cave-in. On top of that, the ending ends with Greed smiling--happiness smiling -- happiness that he'll soon get his day?]]



Well, he has female personas, a penis isn't visible in-game, and in one of the loading dreams in Afterbirth, the little dot between his legs actually falls off.

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Well, he has female personas, a penis isn't visible in-game, and in one of the loading dreams in Afterbirth, ''Afterbirth'', the little dot between his legs actually falls off.



* Uh, the bit about the [[spoiler:Sans-like]] TrueFinalBoss is Jossed, I think. The TrueFinalBoss, [[spoiler:Delirium]], is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin -- [[spoiler:an embodiment of Isaac's mind decaying into incoherent nothingness as he suffocates in the chest]].

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* Uh, the bit about the [[spoiler:Sans-like]] TrueFinalBoss is Jossed, I think. The TrueFinalBoss, [[spoiler:Delirium]], is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin -- [[spoiler:an embodiment of Isaac's mind decaying into incoherent nothingness as he suffocates in the chest]].
chest]]. And getting a GoldenEnding? [[HaHaHaNo Ha ha ha ha,]] ''[[DownerEnding you]] '''[[DeadAllAlong wish]].'''''
16th Jan '17 10:41:16 AM Luigifan
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* This theory is given credence by the fact that in Rebirth, [[spoiler:Dad's Key opens the room to the super secret boss, Mega-Satan.]]

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* This theory is given credence by the fact that in Rebirth, ''Rebirth'', [[spoiler:Dad's Key opens the room to the super secret boss, Mega-Satan.]]



* Given the Halloween Update, [[spoiler: she might have been manipulated by Satan.]]
* Either that, or it's supposed to mirror the story as it is -- God asked her as a test of faith. The reason He [[spoiler: stopped her so violently was because she showed no remorse in killing her son, which showed she had faith in Him but no compassion for fellow humans]].

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* Given the Halloween Update, [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she might have been manipulated by Satan.]]
* Either that, or it's supposed to mirror the story as it is -- God asked her as a test of faith. The reason He [[spoiler: stopped [[spoiler:stopped her so violently was because she showed no remorse in killing her son, which showed she had faith in Him but no compassion for fellow humans]].



So why the tears, the monsters, and the fighting? It's almost all a test, to see what kind of person Isaac truly is. It isn't exactly a battle in the center of the mind. Isaac is transported to an alternate realm partially made up of his own subconscious, evidenced by Mom's grotesque appearance and the constant references to Isaac's broken childhood and household. The collectibles are a combination of granted gifts and inherent powers that Isaac discovers in himself and out in this mysterious realm. He gains control over them, then chooses his fate. Should Isaac fail entirely to either escape or kill Satan, then he snaps back from the very real fight to die alone of suffocation, hence why The Lost floats away from the dead Isaac's body. ??? and The Lost are two separate existences, the body and the soul. God takes pity upon Isaac and grants Isaac a chance, using both, to redeem himself. They are, of course, much more difficult their time around as Isaac loses life and corporeality. And Isaac may still chose whether to escape or overthrow Satan.

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So why the tears, the monsters, and the fighting? It's almost all a test, to see what kind of person Isaac truly is. It isn't exactly a battle in the center of the mind. Isaac is transported to an alternate realm partially made up of his own subconscious, evidenced by Mom's grotesque appearance and the constant references to Isaac's broken childhood and household. The collectibles are a combination of granted gifts and inherent powers that Isaac discovers in himself and out in this mysterious realm. He gains control over them, then chooses his fate. Should Isaac fail entirely to either escape or kill Satan, then he snaps back from the very real fight to die alone of suffocation, hence why The Lost floats away from the dead Isaac's body. ??? and The Lost are two separate existences, the body and the soul. God takes pity upon Isaac and grants Isaac a chance, using both, to redeem himself. They are, of course, much more difficult their time around around, as Isaac loses life and corporeality. And Isaac may still chose choose whether to escape or overthrow Satan.



* [[spoiler: CONFIRMED. Maxing out the Greed Machine now unlocks Keeper, a playable version of Greed.]]

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* [[spoiler: CONFIRMED.[[spoiler:CONFIRMED. Maxing out the Greed Machine now unlocks Keeper, a playable version of Greed.]]



Think about it. Almost twenty different conclusions, [[spoiler: a few of which have Isaac definitively dying]]. The game's Rougelike nature. [[spoiler: The two different paths partway through.]] Isaac is stuck in a loop of sorts where he is able to choose his persona and the specific experiences he has are always different, but everything keeps resetting.

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Think about it. Almost twenty different conclusions, [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a few of which have Isaac definitively dying]]. The game's Rougelike nature. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The two different paths partway through.]] Isaac is stuck in a loop of sorts where he is able to choose his persona and the specific experiences he has are always different, but everything keeps resetting.
* Given the final ending shown in ''Afterbirth+'' after defeating [[spoiler:Delirium]], I think it's fair to say that [[spoiler:by playing the game, we're forcing Isaac to relive his death over and over and over and over and over [[OverlyLongGag and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.]] And slowly suffocating in a small airtight space [[NightmareFuel is not exactly a pleasant way to go]]. WhatTheHellPlayer, indeed.]]



Expanding on the above WMG, Isaac's world and life is constantly reset and randomized by the player. Maybe the true goal of one or several of the characters (Satan, God, Mom, Isaac, etc.) is to find a "[[GoldenEnding final ending]]" that will end the loop and allow them to continue with their lives. Maybe we'll even get a TrueFinalBoss along the lines of [[spoiler: Sans]], whose goal is to [[spoiler: get the player to stop playing and resetting everything.]]

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Expanding on the above WMG, Isaac's world and life is constantly reset and randomized by the player. Maybe the true goal of one or several of the characters (Satan, God, Mom, Isaac, etc.) is to find a "[[GoldenEnding final ending]]" that will end the loop and allow them to continue with their lives. Maybe we'll even get a TrueFinalBoss along the lines of [[spoiler: Sans]], [[spoiler:Sans]], whose goal is to [[spoiler: get [[spoiler:get the player to stop playing and resetting everything.]]
* Uh, the bit about the [[spoiler:Sans-like]] TrueFinalBoss is Jossed, I think. The TrueFinalBoss, [[spoiler:Delirium]], is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin -- [[spoiler:an embodiment of Isaac's mind decaying into incoherent nothingness as he suffocates in the chest]].



As many people have pointed out, Ending 14 [[spoilers: shows a photo of Isaac's mother and father out in the park with a happy girl wearing pink who has Magdalene's blonde wig]] ; Word of God has confirmed that Isaac has no siblings, so we can only interpret this girl as Isaac. [[Spoilers: A photo that comes after this in the same ending has an unhappy, bald Isaac wearing green.]] Isaac also has a nightmare about being presented with the wig, being extremely happy upon putting it on, and then crying when other children laugh at her. It's possible that Isaac has identified as a girl since being very young. Isaac's mother and father were accepting at first because they assumed their "son" was just playing dress-up or going through what they saw as a passing childhood phase, but as Isaac got older, her father became less accepting and thus left - which was what drove her mother off the deep end as she blamed Isaac for driving the father out. Alternatively, both of her parents became less accepting as she got older, and they told her being herself wasn't right, possibly influencing her fear of being teased as in the dream.

It's worth noting that one of the first things Isaac's mother takes from her as an "influence of sin" are her *clothes* - normally you think of being nude as linked to sin (e.g. lust), unless there's something "sinful" with the clothes you're wearing. Mom probably caught Isaac in a dress or skirt, perhaps something she sewed from "boy's" clothes she had, so decided the only solution was to take away ALL of Isaac's clothes. There's also the Mom transformation; dressing up in parents' clothing isn't exactly uncommon among any kids, and it has a lot of significance to trans kids. And the pajamas that give you full health and Soul Hearts - dressing in clothing that makes the character feel like herself *heals her.* That's really powerful symbolism.

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As many people have pointed out, Ending 14 [[spoilers: shows [[spoilers:shows a photo of Isaac's mother and father out in the park with a happy girl wearing pink who has Magdalene's blonde wig]] ; wig]]; Word of God has confirmed that Isaac has no siblings, so we can only interpret this girl as Isaac. [[Spoilers: A [[spoilers:A photo that comes after this in the same ending has an unhappy, bald Isaac wearing green.]] Isaac also has a nightmare about being presented with the wig, being extremely happy upon putting it on, and then crying when other children laugh at her. It's possible that Isaac has identified as a girl since being very young. Isaac's mother and father were accepting at first because they assumed their "son" was just playing dress-up or going through what they saw as a passing childhood phase, but as Isaac got older, her father became less accepting and thus left - -- which was what drove her mother off the deep end as she blamed Isaac for driving the father out. Alternatively, both of her parents became less accepting as she got older, and they told her being herself wasn't right, possibly influencing her fear of being teased as in the dream.

It's worth noting that one of the first things Isaac's mother takes from her as an "influence of sin" are her *clothes* - normally ''clothes'' -- normally, you think of being nude as linked to sin (e.g. lust), unless there's something "sinful" with the clothes you're wearing. (It should be noted that the Japanese associate nudity with purity, but there is absolutely zero indication that Isaac's family is Asian.) Mom probably caught Isaac in a dress or skirt, perhaps something she sewed from "boy's" clothes she had, so decided the only solution was to take away ALL '''all''' of Isaac's clothes. There's also the Mom transformation; dressing up in parents' clothing isn't exactly uncommon among any kids, and it has a lot of significance to trans kids. And the pajamas that give you full health and Soul Hearts - -- dressing in clothing that makes the character feel like herself *heals her.* ''heals her''. That's really powerful symbolism.



Think about it: Isaac is just a kid, can he really be capable of harboring such horrific manifestations of greed, lust, sloth, etc.? No. He's just heard his mother talk about sin, and internalized all that talk to assume - and to fear - that he contains all these horrible sins that he has to battle and kill before they consume him. [[YourMindMakesItReal They're really just the manifestations of that fear, not manifestations of the sins themselves.]]

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Think about it: Isaac is just a kid, can he really be capable of harboring such horrific manifestations of greed, lust, sloth, etc.? No. He's just heard his mother talk about sin, and internalized all that talk to assume - -- and to fear - -- that he contains all these horrible sins that he has to battle and kill before they consume him. [[YourMindMakesItReal They're really just the manifestations of that fear, not manifestations of the sins themselves.]]
6th Jan '17 5:01:06 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Larry, Jr is a successful experiment of a [[TheHumanCentipede human centipede]]]]

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[[WMG: Larry, Jr is a successful experiment of a [[TheHumanCentipede [[Film/TheHumanCentipede human centipede]]]]
18th Sep '16 3:54:02 PM Bloomingbell
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The intro narration says, and I quote: "...until the day Isaac's mom heard a '''voice...from above.'''" [[ExactWords Note that the narration ''never'' refers to the voice as God, just as "the voice."]] It could very well be that Mom just ''assumed'' the voice was God. In fact, ''Afterbirth'' alludes to this: one of the new loading screens shows the intro's scene where Mom hears the voice for the first time...then it pans up to [[spoiler: the attic, where we see '''The Lost''' speaking.]]

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The intro narration says, and I quote: "...until the day Isaac's mom heard a '''voice...from above.'''" [[ExactWords Note that the narration ''never'' refers to the voice as God, just as "the voice."]] It could very well be that Mom just ''assumed'' the voice was God. In fact, ''Afterbirth'' alludes to this: one of the new loading screens shows the intro's scene where Mom hears the voice for the first time...then it pans up to [[spoiler: the attic, where we see '''The Lost''' speaking.]]

[[WMG: Isaac is transgender, and Magdalene is her truest identity.]]

As many people have pointed out, Ending 14 [[spoilers: shows a photo of Isaac's mother and father out in the park with a happy girl wearing pink who has Magdalene's blonde wig]] ; Word of God has confirmed that Isaac has no siblings, so we can only interpret this girl as Isaac. [[Spoilers: A photo that comes after this in the same ending has an unhappy, bald Isaac wearing green.]] Isaac also has a nightmare about being presented with the wig, being extremely happy upon putting it on, and then crying when other children laugh at her. It's possible that Isaac has identified as a girl since being very young. Isaac's mother and father were accepting at first because they assumed their "son" was just playing dress-up or going through what they saw as a passing childhood phase, but as Isaac got older, her father became less accepting and thus left - which was what drove her mother off the deep end as she blamed Isaac for driving the father out. Alternatively, both of her parents became less accepting as she got older, and they told her being herself wasn't right, possibly influencing her fear of being teased as in the dream.

It's worth noting that one of the first things Isaac's mother takes from her as an "influence of sin" are her *clothes* - normally you think of being nude as linked to sin (e.g. lust), unless there's something "sinful" with the clothes you're wearing. Mom probably caught Isaac in a dress or skirt, perhaps something she sewed from "boy's" clothes she had, so decided the only solution was to take away ALL of Isaac's clothes. There's also the Mom transformation; dressing up in parents' clothing isn't exactly uncommon among any kids, and it has a lot of significance to trans kids. And the pajamas that give you full health and Soul Hearts - dressing in clothing that makes the character feel like herself *heals her.* That's really powerful symbolism.

As for Magdalene being Isaac's truest identity: Magdalene has the most starting red health out of any of the characters, which can be interpreted as her having the strongest connection to "Isaac's" body and soul out of any of the characters. Isaac is also wearing the Magdalene wig in the flashback looking happy, and is happy in it again in the dream between floors. The base character doesn't have that kind of connection to any separate character except Azazel, who's more linked to Isaac/Magdalene's fear of developing into a demon than it is to her personal identity.

[[WMG: The sins don't actually represent Isaac's sins, but rather how Isaac *perceives* himself.]]
Think about it: Isaac is just a kid, can he really be capable of harboring such horrific manifestations of greed, lust, sloth, etc.? No. He's just heard his mother talk about sin, and internalized all that talk to assume - and to fear - that he contains all these horrible sins that he has to battle and kill before they consume him. [[YourMindMakesItReal They're really just the manifestations of that fear, not manifestations of the sins themselves.
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18th Jun '16 6:05:49 AM MasterParadox
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* Given the Halloween Update, [[spoiler:she might have been manipulated by Satan.]]
* Either that, or it's supposed to mirror the story as it is -- God asked her as a test of faith. The reason He [[spoiler:stopped her so violently was because she showed no remorse in killing her son, which showed she had faith in Him but no compassion for fellow humans]].

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* Given the Halloween Update, [[spoiler:she [[spoiler: she might have been manipulated by Satan.]]
* Either that, or it's supposed to mirror the story as it is -- God asked her as a test of faith. The reason He [[spoiler:stopped [[spoiler: stopped her so violently was because she showed no remorse in killing her son, which showed she had faith in Him but no compassion for fellow humans]].



[[WMG: To go with the above, [[spoiler:Satan in-game is actually Isaac's dad]]]]
[[spoiler:Basically, in Ending 13, we can see that Isaac's Dad left the family, and beforehand we see a lot of sad Isaac, so clearly there was a messy divorce, causing Mom to go mad from despair. Therefore, in Isaac's imagination, the only one that could cause such suffering is the devil.]]

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[[WMG: To go with the above, [[spoiler:Satan [[spoiler: Satan in-game is actually Isaac's dad]]]]
[[spoiler:Basically, [[spoiler: Basically, in Ending 13, we can see that Isaac's Dad left the family, and beforehand we see a lot of sad Isaac, so clearly there was a messy divorce, causing Mom to go mad from despair. Therefore, in Isaac's imagination, the only one that could cause such suffering is the devil.]]
4th Mar '16 2:42:08 PM MasterParadox
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[[WMG: The game is secretly extremely meta and self-aware, much like [[VideoGame/Undertale]].]]

Expanding on the above WMG, Isaac's world and life is constantly reset and randomized by the player. Maybe the true goal of one or several of the characters (Satan, God, Mom, Isaac, etc.) is to find a "[[GoldenEnding final ending]]" that will end the loop and allow them to continue with their lives. Maybe we'll even get a TrueFinalBoss along the lines of [[spoiler: Sans]], whose goal is to [[spoiler: get the player to stop playing and resetting everything.]]

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[[WMG: The game is secretly extremely meta and self-aware, much like [[VideoGame/Undertale]].]]

VideoGame/{{Undertale}}.]]
Expanding on the above WMG, Isaac's world and life is constantly reset and randomized by the player. Maybe the true goal of one or several of the characters (Satan, God, Mom, Isaac, etc.) is to find a "[[GoldenEnding final ending]]" that will end the loop and allow them to continue with their lives. Maybe we'll even get a TrueFinalBoss along the lines of [[spoiler: Sans]], whose goal is to [[spoiler: get the player to stop playing and resetting everything.]]

[[WMG: Isaac's mom ''did'' hear a voice...but it wasn't God.]]
The intro narration says, and I quote: "...until the day Isaac's mom heard a '''voice...from above.'''" [[ExactWords Note that the narration ''never'' refers to the voice as God, just as "the voice."]] It could very well be that Mom just ''assumed'' the voice was God. In fact, ''Afterbirth'' alludes to this: one of the new loading screens shows the intro's scene where Mom hears the voice for the first time...then it pans up to [[spoiler: the attic, where we see '''The Lost''' speaking.
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12th Feb '16 9:12:14 PM MasterParadox
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[[WMG: Much like [[VideoGame/Undertale]], the game is extremely meta and self-aware, but secretly and subtly.]]

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[[WMG: Much like [[VideoGame/Undertale]], the The game is secretly extremely meta and self-aware, but secretly and subtly.much like [[VideoGame/Undertale]].]]
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