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10th Jun '16 11:42:31 PM TitoMosquito
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*** Then again, it makes me a bit suspicious, because it's so obvious. It would be such a big turning point for the show, I just can't believe that it will happen. NeverTrustTheTrailer. Or spoiler, in that case. Also (real spoilers!)[[spoiler: it said "beloved character". Which means it could be anyone ranging from Castiel to Crowley, Meg or even Dean and Sam. Hell, maybe even Lucifer. I don't think that there's one character left on the show that is generally disliked (like most of the female characters). Remember last season, when a "fan favourite" was to die? While I'm one of the few who liked Ruby, I think that we all know that she was anything but a fan favourite. ]]

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*** Then again, it makes me a bit suspicious, because it's so obvious. It would be such a big turning point for the show, I just can't believe that it will happen. NeverTrustTheTrailer.NeverTrustATrailer. Or spoiler, in that case. Also (real spoilers!)[[spoiler: it said "beloved character". Which means it could be anyone ranging from Castiel to Crowley, Meg or even Dean and Sam. Hell, maybe even Lucifer. I don't think that there's one character left on the show that is generally disliked (like most of the female characters). Remember last season, when a "fan favourite" was to die? While I'm one of the few who liked Ruby, I think that we all know that she was anything but a fan favourite. ]]



7. It'll begin the same way as number 6. But instead of being saved by Jesse, the boys meet with a mysterious woman. She takes the form of Mary Winchester, Jess Moore, and Karen Singer, making the boys uneasy. She tells them she's not a demon, angel, or any other supernatural monster. She's really {{God}}'s mother, the TRUE creator of the universe. God is one of her many children (which includes Death and Eve, see theory above). She tells them that God has "retired" after the Apocalypse has been averted (explaining why he didn't give Castiel a sign). Though the boys are skeptical at first, considering that all the higher beings they've encountered turned out to be jackasses. But, even though she was offended by the word "jackass", she assures them she's nothing like the angels or demons. She's very loving and caring to ALL her children. And she loves the [[HumansAreSpecial humans deeply]] and doesn't want the Apocalypse to happen. She's disgusted by how the angels and demons act, always using the humans as cannon fodder. She takes over the "Cas" role and wish to help the boys stop Cas. But reasons known only to her, she cannot interfere, so she can only give out hints and tips to the boys.

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7. It'll begin the same way as number 6. But instead of being saved by Jesse, the boys meet with a mysterious woman. She takes the form of Mary Winchester, Jess Moore, and Karen Singer, making the boys uneasy. She tells them she's not a demon, angel, or any other supernatural monster. She's really {{God}}'s mother, the TRUE creator of the universe. God is one of her many children (which includes Death and Eve, see theory above).in Character Guesses page's "God & "X is God"). She tells them that God has "retired" after the Apocalypse has been averted (explaining why he didn't give Castiel a sign). Though the boys are skeptical at first, considering that all the higher beings they've encountered turned out to be jackasses. But, even though she was offended by the word "jackass", she assures them she's nothing like the angels or demons. She's very loving and caring to ALL her children. And she loves the [[HumansAreSpecial humans deeply]] and doesn't want the Apocalypse to happen. She's disgusted by how the angels and demons act, always using the humans as cannon fodder. She takes over the "Cas" role and wish to help the boys stop Cas. But reasons known only to her, she cannot interfere, so she can only give out hints and tips to the boys.




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* [[spoiler:Jossed, there'll be another.]]




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* [[spoiler:Jossed. However, when God was dying, existence was about to fade to nothingness and she would fade away herself.]]


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[[WMG: This will ''really'' be the final season.]]
2nd Jun '16 12:09:24 AM ApeAccount
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Evidence? Her singing "Oh Death" for one. Her taking such a persistant interest in the Winchesters. Also, an ordinary reaper pulling out hundreds of thousands of souls from the Veil at once?

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Evidence? Her singing "Oh Death" for one. Her taking such a persistant interest in the Winchesters. Also, an ordinary reaper pulling out hundreds of thousands of souls from the Veil at once?once?

[[WMG: Lucifer's angels exist and will eventually become antagonists]]
In the Bible, Lucifer didn't rebel on his own. He actually led an army of angels (if memory serves about a third of God's army). These angels have been conspicuously absent from the series. Given the tendency to reveal that powerful threats have been sealed away somewhere (Lucifer, Eve, Leviathans, Amara) it's possible that these angels do actually exist but that God sealed them away somewhere away from Lucifer. He then chose to wipe the memory of the other angels of their existence (this was before he was as big on the whole "free will" thing, plus he was regretting it a bit after what Lucifer had just done). After all, one rogue angel existing and being punished reminds them the importance of following orders. Hundreds of rogue angels makes them question whether following orders was the right thing to do.

The series will need to introduce new antagonists at some point (this is being written after Season 11 has just ended and it looks like the British Men of Letters may play a part, but they hardly seem worthy to take over as the primary antagonists...I hope). Obviously it will be difficult to top Amara in power terms (in fact it would strain credibility). It would seem unlikely that they can just keep using more powerful demons. Leviathans showed the dangers of trying to jam a completely new monster into the mythos and trying to put it on a power scale any way comparable to the existing beings. However an angel army who were attacking humans (and against whom Sam and Dean didn't have the protection of being needed for "the big prize fight" like in season five) could be just what the series needs.
30th May '16 6:28:00 AM Millstone85
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In the last scene with Metatron he asks him to read the last pages of his autobiography. While Chuck is singing a farewell song both exchange sorrowful looks as if saying goodbye. We learn in the past that both Amara and God are equal in power and both sides of balance. Creation and destruction, light and dark and that Chuck chose to contain her. What if he contained her because there was no way to destroy her without destroying herself. Maybe she is not aware of this or believes as the embodiment of nothing she cannot be destroyed. Negative and positive colliding to end them both.

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In the last scene with Metatron he asks him to read the last pages of his autobiography. While Chuck is singing a farewell song both exchange sorrowful looks as if saying goodbye. We learn in the past that both Amara and God are equal in power and both sides of balance. Creation and destruction, light and dark and that Chuck chose to contain her. What if he contained her because there was no way to destroy her without destroying herself.himself. Maybe she is not aware of this or believes as the embodiment of nothing she cannot be destroyed. Negative and positive colliding to end them both.
both.
* [[spoiler:Close. Chuck was planning to let Amara lock him away as he had done to her, hoping that would satiate her desire for vengeance and she would spare Creation. Also, both Chuck and Amara believe neither of them can exist without the other.]]
29th May '16 7:42:47 PM ManEFaces
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[[WMG: The Winchesters will be put on trial by the Men of Letters]]
It'll involve the Men of Letters being an OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness who will hold a combination of TrialOfTheMysticalJury and KangarooCourt for Sam and Dean. Various characters will testify for or against them, but the final verdict will inevitably be that the Winchesters are guilty of doing more harm than good. Then either some evil force will threaten to destroy the Men of Letters and they'll pull an EntitledBastard and ask the Winchesters to save them, or they'll be revealed as a DeadlyDecadentCourt and the Winchesters will bring them down. Neither Chuck nor Amara will show up because it's a human affair and using them too much would cheapen them.
28th May '16 10:06:43 PM Lazarus1996
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These powers are unusual for demons, but, more noticeably they are actually quite common for angels. Given that demons were originally created by Lucifer (an archangel) my theory is that he found a way to imbue some demons with a sort of bastardised form of angelic grace (which maybe they had to earn, hence explaining why they don't all have it). Not only would it explain why some demons were more powerful than you would expect a twisted spirit to be (and than other demons), but it would make sense from a practical perspective as well. Lucifer knew that he had three archangels against him (even if only one who could rival him in power). He also had to face all the regular angels even though his own soldiers were basically just a twisted version of the humans he considered to be so inferior. It’s only natural he’d want a way to boost their power somehow, at least until he could wipe out his father’s forces and would then be able to get rid of the demons as well.

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These powers are unusual for demons, but, more noticeably they are actually quite common for angels. Given that demons were originally created by Lucifer (an archangel) my theory is that he found a way to imbue some demons with a sort of bastardised form of angelic grace (which maybe they had to earn, hence explaining why they don't all have it). Not only would it explain why some demons were more powerful than you would expect a twisted spirit to be (and than other demons), but it would make sense from a practical perspective as well. Lucifer knew that he had three archangels against him (even if only one who could rival him in power). He also had to face all the regular angels even though his own soldiers were basically just a twisted version of the humans he considered to be so inferior. It’s only natural he’d want a way to boost their power somehow, at least until he could wipe out his father’s forces and would then be able to get rid of the demons as well.well.

[[WMG: Billie is the new Death]]
Evidence? Her singing "Oh Death" for one. Her taking such a persistant interest in the Winchesters. Also, an ordinary reaper pulling out hundreds of thousands of souls from the Veil at once?
28th May '16 9:44:31 AM Kalu-chan
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[[folder:Season 12]]
[[WMG: Mary won't survive]]
Let's be honest here - The show hasn't been too kind to its characters, and getting back their mother is pretty much the best thing to happen to our poor boys in a bunch of seasons, and none of the other stuff (Dean having a life with Lisa, Sam falling in love with Amelia) has persisted for long.
So, the real question is, how will she die? Well, despite all the risks life as a hunter or as someone close to a hunter has, the other cliffhanger for Season 11's ending had Tony shoot Sam (Or at least at him). Since the show probably won't kill of either of the Winchesters (Really, they've had more than enough chances), despite Billie's claims, if the shot hit, they'll have to bring back Sam somehow. And seeing as this whole family has a history of sacrificing themselves for their loved ones, Mary will probably trade her newly-gotten life - Which would piss off the reapers anyway - to give Sam his back.
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27th May '16 7:48:49 PM ApeAccount
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*** Though (from an out of universe perspective) the character wouldn't have been thought of by the writers at the time the statement was made, I think it's fair to say that now we have to evaluate this list on the grounds that that The Darkness definitely would be impervious to the Colt. Again though the "not of creation" exclusion could definitely be applied.

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*** Though (from an out of universe perspective) the character wouldn't have been thought of by the writers at the time the statement was made, I think it's fair to say that now we have to evaluate this list on the grounds that that The Darkness definitely would be impervious to the Colt. Again though the "not of creation" exclusion could definitely be applied.
applied. Still, if we're not applying that exclusion (since in most contexts "all of creation" is used to mean "everything", unless you happen to know God and his sister personally, in which case it would be kind of weird if you knew there were seven things the Colt couldn't kill and you chose to intentionally exclude two of them), then I think Eve ends up being removed from the list and we get God, Death, Amara, Lucifer and Michael.



Because death thought he was the same age as god, but amara proved that to not be true, and apparently he came into being without being (directly) created, so what if death is their younger brother.

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Because death thought he was the same age as god, but amara proved that to not be true, and apparently he came into being without being (directly) created, so what if death is their younger brother.brother.

[[WMG:Crowley is Graceful]]
The title of this may be misleading but basically my theory is simple. Demons are really just spirits (as confirmed in “Weekend at Bobby’s”). They’re twisted spirits but most demons basically have the same set of powers as we have seen in spirits. They can possess people (it’s rare but spirit possession has been mentioned), they cause electromagnetic interference and they may have some telekinetic abilities.

However, when you look at more powerful demons such as Crowley, Azazel or Lilith, they’ve shown abilities which are completely unlike any you see in your typical spirit. They can (at least one of them, whether through a deal or not) resurrect people, heal people, enter dreams, undertake memory manipulation, warp reality, teleport, magically render people unconscious and use “white light” attacks.

These powers are unusual for demons, but, more noticeably they are actually quite common for angels. Given that demons were originally created by Lucifer (an archangel) my theory is that he found a way to imbue some demons with a sort of bastardised form of angelic grace (which maybe they had to earn, hence explaining why they don't all have it). Not only would it explain why some demons were more powerful than you would expect a twisted spirit to be (and than other demons), but it would make sense from a practical perspective as well. Lucifer knew that he had three archangels against him (even if only one who could rival him in power). He also had to face all the regular angels even though his own soldiers were basically just a twisted version of the humans he considered to be so inferior. It’s only natural he’d want a way to boost their power somehow, at least until he could wipe out his father’s forces and would then be able to get rid of the demons as well.
22nd May '16 10:34:30 PM Leftywright
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22nd May '16 10:31:05 PM Leftywright
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"Guy" is actually Dean, "Kristy" is actually Ruby. Castiel is an angel.]] This troper has seen these theories in multiple places, but she saw them first on the very intelligent and witty boards of TelevisionWithoutPity, so credit where it is due. If you don't know and would like to, the names are from the spoiler sides that have recently come out for the season 4 opener, called "Lazarus Rising". The basic reasoning is: "Guy" sounds a lot like Dean, what with the sarcasm and all, and his situation seems to be like Dean's (he was just "rescued" and is described as "defenseless", and he knows Bobby well). As for Kristy, we know that Katie Cassidy (formerly Ruby) is gone, but that the character is not, and Kristy is described much like Ruby was. As for Castiel, he seems to have benevolent intentions, and although he calls himself a demon, Kripke said that we would meet a new supernatural race of beings, and other sources have mentioned that Supernatural will use a lot of religious images, particularly relating to Heaven and Hell, and lastly, research (coughGooglecough) has revealed that Castiel is the name of an angel. Also, with a title like "Lazarus Rising", it would be surprising if they DIDN'T resurrect Dean, and it makes sense for "Guy" to be him.

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"Guy" is actually Dean, "Kristy" is actually Ruby. Castiel is an angel.]] This troper has seen these theories in multiple places, but she saw them first on the very intelligent and witty boards of TelevisionWithoutPity, so credit where it is due. If you don't know and would like to, the names are from the spoiler sides that have recently come out for the season 4 opener, called "Lazarus "Lazars Rising". The basic reasoning is: "Guy" sounds a lot like Dean, what with the sarcasm and all, and his situation seems to be like Dean's (he was just "rescued" and is described as "defenseless", and he knows Bobby well). As for Kristy, we know that Katie Cassidy (formerly Ruby) is gone, but that the character is not, and Kristy is described much like Ruby was. As for Castiel, he seems to have benevolent intentions, and although he calls himself a demon, Kripke said that we would meet a new supernatural race of beings, and other sources have mentioned that Supernatural will use a lot of religious images, particularly relating to Heaven and Hell, and lastly, research (coughGooglecough) has revealed that Castiel is the name of an angel. Also, with a title like "Lazarus Rising", it would be surprising if they DIDN'T resurrect Dean, and it makes sense for "Guy" to be him.



* In ''O Brother Where Art Thou?'', Amara said "there was no daddy".

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* In ''O Brother Where Art Thou?'', Amara said "there was no daddy".daddy".
**Maybe Amara has no idea what "daddy" means

[[WMG: Death is God's and Amara's younger brother]]
Because death thought he was the same age as god, but amara proved that to not be true, and apparently he came into being without being (directly) created, so what if death is their younger brother.
6th May '16 12:47:07 PM Millstone85
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Death is basically a function of entropy - complex things breaking down. Entropy is also the most powerful and inescapable effect of reality. Hence why Death said he will one day reap Yahweh, because nothing can escape the effects of entropy. He will return and reveal that he created Yahweh and Amara because he wanted something to exist besides himself because he is literally entropy and nothingness. So he created the light and the darkness, but the darkness didn't want to share existence with the light and tried to snuff it out, hence Yahweh sealed her away. This is also why Amara doesn't know who Death is, despite him being as old as Yahweh if not older. She's never heard of "Death" because she only knows him as "dad".

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Death is basically a function of entropy - complex things breaking down. Entropy is also the most powerful and inescapable effect of reality. Hence why Death said he will one day reap Yahweh, because nothing can escape the effects of entropy. He will return and reveal that he created Yahweh and Amara because he wanted something to exist besides himself because he is literally entropy and nothingness. So he created the light and the darkness, but the darkness didn't want to share existence with the light and tried to snuff it out, hence Yahweh sealed her away. This is also why Amara doesn't know who Death is, despite him being as old as Yahweh if not older. She's never heard of "Death" because she only knows him as "dad"."dad".
* In ''O Brother Where Art Thou?'', Amara said "there was no daddy".
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