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23rd Apr '17 2:30:46 PM nombretomado
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"Guy" is actually Dean, "Kristy" is actually Ruby. Castiel is an angel.]] This troper has seen these theories in multiple places, but she saw them first on the very intelligent and witty boards of TelevisionWithoutPity, so credit where it is due. If you don't know and would like to, the names are from the spoiler sides that have recently come out for the season 4 opener, called "Lazars Rising". The basic reasoning is: "Guy" sounds a lot like Dean, what with the sarcasm and all, and his situation seems to be like Dean's (he was just "rescued" and is described as "defenseless", and he knows Bobby well). As for Kristy, we know that Katie Cassidy (formerly Ruby) is gone, but that the character is not, and Kristy is described much like Ruby was. As for Castiel, he seems to have benevolent intentions, and although he calls himself a demon, Kripke said that we would meet a new supernatural race of beings, and other sources have mentioned that Supernatural will use a lot of religious images, particularly relating to Heaven and Hell, and lastly, research (coughGooglecough) has revealed that Castiel is the name of an angel. Also, with a title like "Lazarus Rising", it would be surprising if they DIDN'T resurrect Dean, and it makes sense for "Guy" to be him.

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"Guy" is actually Dean, "Kristy" is actually Ruby. Castiel is an angel.]] This troper has seen these theories in multiple places, but she saw them first on the very intelligent and witty boards of TelevisionWithoutPity, Website/TelevisionWithoutPity, so credit where it is due. If you don't know and would like to, the names are from the spoiler sides that have recently come out for the season 4 opener, called "Lazars Rising". The basic reasoning is: "Guy" sounds a lot like Dean, what with the sarcasm and all, and his situation seems to be like Dean's (he was just "rescued" and is described as "defenseless", and he knows Bobby well). As for Kristy, we know that Katie Cassidy (formerly Ruby) is gone, but that the character is not, and Kristy is described much like Ruby was. As for Castiel, he seems to have benevolent intentions, and although he calls himself a demon, Kripke said that we would meet a new supernatural race of beings, and other sources have mentioned that Supernatural will use a lot of religious images, particularly relating to Heaven and Hell, and lastly, research (coughGooglecough) has revealed that Castiel is the name of an angel. Also, with a title like "Lazarus Rising", it would be surprising if they DIDN'T resurrect Dean, and it makes sense for "Guy" to be him.



They definitely read TelevisionWithoutPity. Part of it is the series being ReferenceOverdosed and using well-known fanspeak, but sometimes it almost exactly quotes trope titles:

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They definitely read TelevisionWithoutPity.Website/TelevisionWithoutPity. Part of it is the series being ReferenceOverdosed and using well-known fanspeak, but sometimes it almost exactly quotes trope titles:
13th Apr '17 8:37:41 PM TitoMosquito
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[[WMG: With Mick dead, Toni Bevell will be given his position.]]
17th Mar '17 6:26:39 AM Shasarazade
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[[WMG:There will be a storyline involving a live-action movie adaptation of Supernatural in-universe, and the actor who plays Dr. Sexy will have a starring role in the movie.]]

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[[WMG:There will be a storyline involving a live-action movie adaptation of Supernatural ''Supernatural'' in-universe, and the actor who plays Dr. Sexy will have a starring role in the movie.]]
17th Mar '17 6:25:23 AM Shasarazade
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The series will need to introduce new antagonists at some point (this is being written after Season 11 has just ended and it looks like the British Men of Letters may play a part, but they hardly seem worthy to take over as the primary antagonists...I hope). Obviously it will be difficult to top Amara in power terms (in fact it would strain credibility). It would seem unlikely that they can just keep using more powerful demons. Leviathans showed the dangers of trying to jam a completely new monster into the mythos and trying to put it on a power scale any way comparable to the existing beings. However an angel army who were attacking humans (and against whom Sam and Dean didn't have the protection of being needed for "the big prize fight" like in season five) could be just what the series needs.

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The series will need to introduce new antagonists at some point (this is being written after Season 11 has just ended and it looks like the British Men of Letters may play a part, but they hardly seem worthy to take over as the primary antagonists...I hope). Obviously it will be difficult to top Amara in power terms (in fact it would strain credibility). It would seem unlikely that they can just keep using more powerful demons. Leviathans showed the dangers of trying to jam a completely new monster into the mythos and trying to put it on a power scale any way comparable to the existing beings. However an angel army who were attacking humans (and against whom Sam and Dean didn't have the protection of being needed for "the big prize fight" like in season five) could be just what the series needs.needs.

[[WMG:There will be a storyline involving a live-action movie adaptation of Supernatural in-universe, and the actor who plays Dr. Sexy will have a starring role in the movie.]]
Which will horrify and anger Dean, but also make him excited.
21st Feb '17 7:36:13 PM gewunomox
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[[WMG: Dean will make a [[TheBeatles musical reference]] while rescuing Sam from the English Men of Letters.]]

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[[WMG: Dean will make a [[TheBeatles [[Music/TheBeatles musical reference]] while rescuing Sam from the English Men of Letters.]]
17th Jan '17 11:36:41 PM Alas_Poor_Donny
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[[WMG: Death isn't dead, the Winchesters have just finally managed to annoy him]]
People are still dying, rather obviously, and Amara's powers are actually substantially less than what Death has stated falls within his purview. Death has never actually threatened the Winchesters with harm, only with him ceasing to help them with their problems, which he only did in the first place because they amused him. Well... he gave them the solution to their problem as usual, and they threw it back into his face in the rudest manner possible; he wasn't destroyed, he just left them to deal with the problem they'd caused on their own, and forced them to work with the minion reapers like any other mortal instead of the big cheese himself.
* On a related note, the scythe is never seen again after his exit scene. Considering how the brothers barely ever let their last everything-killing weapon out of their hands for five minutes, much less out of their sight, that means that it's not there... most likely, he took it with him when he left.
26th Oct '16 3:49:46 PM ApeAccount
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* Having just rewatched season 10, I wonder if Cain should be on the list. If the Mark wouldn't let him die then presumably he's Colt proof. In that case, maybe we do exclude God, Death and Amara as not "in creation". So we have Lucifer, Michael and Cain and two open spots. The other two archangels, perhaps?
25th Oct '16 3:41:36 AM ApeAccount
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[[WMG: Mary will become Lucifer's vessel]]
In the same way that Dean was Michael's chosen vessel but Adam could fill the role without burning out, maybe Mary could serve as Lucifer's vessel instead of Sam. It was suggested that Sam and Dean's birth was arranged which indicates that it may have been both their Winchester and Campbell blood together that made them such a perfect match, in which case Mary is as close to Sam as Adam was.

She will either be tricked or manipulated into saying "yes" (possibly sacrificing herself to save one of her sons by standard Supernatural rules).

Given the rule that good things aren't allowed to last, by the time they are able to get Lucifer out of her body it will be damaged enough that she will die again.
21st Oct '16 4:35:35 PM ApeAccount
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[[WMG: The British Men of Letters Claims of Success will be Revealed to be a Technicality]]
They claim not to have had a monster related death in Britain for decades by warding airports and the docks.

Monster can't logically include demons. Crowley showed in "Weekend at Bobby's" that he could just teleport into Scotland (part of Britain) whenever he wanted (of course, demons can also be summoned and bypass airports). Obviously he's capable of killing people in Britain if he wishes before the British Men of Letters show up (for that matter, since he wouldn't go through any of their airports or docks, they wouldn't even know about it). He'd certain be able to send crossroads demons into Britain to make deals and then collect on the debts by killing people when the contracts are up.

Similarly, especially given her history with the Men of Letters, there's no way someone like Abaddon would have just stood by while Britain was protected from her kind by another branch of theirs.

If nothing else, Lucifer took out a bunch of Gods before the apocalypse. He'd probably have taken that British Men of Letters out for the fun of it if they were really that successful.

Still, the term monster isn't that often applied to demons so maybe we exclude them (and Lucifer being an archangel certainly wouldn't get the title).

Their warding strategy wouldn't work against witches (since witches are effectively human and even if they weren't a person could become a witch while in Britain and kill someone) but maybe they don't count witches as monsters.

The same goes for ghosts who could clearly die in Britain and kill people but again may not be known as "monsters".

Dick Roman, Metatron and Amara may not have had a reason to go there but clearly could have if they'd wanted to (at his most powerful, Metatron could just brush angel warding aside and, if the Men of Letters were powerful enough to be a threat to him, may have just taken them out to be safe). For that matter, Leviathans probably should have gone there at some point if they were intending to take over the world (and there's no logical reason why the British Men of Letters would have had warding against them or known how to stop them) but I'll buy that maybe they didn't. One would also think that if Amara was so pro-Chaos and Britain was "protected" that's exactly where she might target, but then God's sister probably doesn't count as a monster.

At the same time, there are various gods shown throughout the show who require completely unique ways to kill them. Even if the Men of Letters responded in minutes to their arrival of the country there's no way they'd have the right equipment to kill them (given they all require something different), so gods probably don't count either.

Maybe the term monster is reserved for creatures like werewolves, vampires and shapeshifters. By extensions, they probably only classify the relatively weaker supernatural creatures as monsters in order to keep their "perfect" record.



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14th Oct '16 10:21:39 PM DarkCyberWolf
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[[WMG: The series will end with Sam and Dean going on one final case.]]
Specifically, a [[BookEnds simple ghost case]]. Featuring Jessica Moore.
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