History WMG / SuperMarioBros

21st Oct '17 4:42:06 PM GrammarNavi
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They all live on Birdo Island, which is on the opposite side of the Mushroom Kingdom to Yoshi Island. No one knows that there are more than one Birdo because the Birdos only allow a few outside the island per year as secret ambassadors (more like spies, really). Going by the original Japanese manual for Super Mario Bros 2 and not the North American one (the first one to mention the transgender thing), the Birdo working for Wart was a (somewhat mannish) Birdo ambassador gone rouge named Catherine. After that fiasco, she was called back to Birdo Island. She refuses, and goes on the lam. So, Birdo Island sends another Birdo to the Mushroom Kingdom, the one that's friendly to the Mario Crew and dates Yoshi. After ''Super Smash Bros Melee'', Birdo Island sends another pink Birdo (who is male) as a secretary to the first Birdo. In the confusion that results, the Birdos realize that the Mushroom Kingdom still doesn't really know Birdo Island exists. So, the secretary is called back, and the first Birdo makes up excuses for the confusion. They don't exactly stick, leading to the "indeterminate gender" comment on the Brawl trophy. Meanwhile, Catherine finds a way to [[CaptainRainbow Mimin Island]]...

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They all live on Birdo Island, which is on the opposite side of the Mushroom Kingdom to Yoshi Island. No one knows that there are more than one Birdo because the Birdos only allow a few outside the island per year as secret ambassadors (more like spies, really). Going by the original Japanese manual for Super Mario Bros 2 and not the North American one (the first one to mention the transgender thing), the Birdo working for Wart was a (somewhat mannish) Birdo ambassador gone rouge named Catherine. After that fiasco, she was called back to Birdo Island. She refuses, and goes on the lam. So, Birdo Island sends another Birdo to the Mushroom Kingdom, the one that's friendly to the Mario Crew and dates Yoshi. After ''Super Smash Bros Melee'', Birdo Island sends another pink Birdo (who is male) as a secretary to the first Birdo. In the confusion that results, the Birdos realize that the Mushroom Kingdom still doesn't really know Birdo Island exists. So, the secretary is called back, and the first Birdo makes up excuses for the confusion. They don't exactly stick, leading to the "indeterminate gender" comment on the Brawl trophy. Meanwhile, Catherine finds a way to [[CaptainRainbow [[VideoGame/CaptainRainbow Mimin Island]]...
12th Oct '17 4:12:55 AM Kindle4Light
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Peach is royalty, either the ruling monarch of a country or the heir apparent. Mario is... [[WorkingClassHero a plumber]]. If they were to marry, their marriage would be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganatic_marriage morganatic]], and their children would be ineligible to inherit the throne, thus setting up a SuccessionCrisis in the future. They both know this, and thus refuse to officially enter into a relationship out of a sense of duty, despite their mutual feelings for each other. They both relish it when Peach gets kidnapped; those chaste kisses on top of Bowser's castle when nobody is there to watch are the only slivers of intimacy they can ever have.

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Peach is royalty, either the ruling monarch of a country or the heir apparent. Mario is... [[WorkingClassHero a plumber]]. If they were to marry, their marriage would be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganatic_marriage morganatic]], and their children would be ineligible to inherit the throne, thus setting up a SuccessionCrisis in the future. They both know this, and thus refuse to officially enter into a relationship out of a sense of duty, despite their mutual feelings for each other. They both relish it when Peach gets kidnapped; those chaste kisses on top of Bowser's castle when nobody is there to watch are the only slivers of intimacy they can ever have.have.

[[WMG:Peach has been backing Mario in his everyday life.]]
During his life as a plumber, she supported his business. Through her financial aid, Mario has a good start with his business and is provided with good tools to fixing the plumbing system effectively. By ''Odyssey'', he is no longer a plumber as he saved enough money to retire.
1st Sep '17 7:48:12 AM SeptimusHeap
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Yoshi, in VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine, dissolves when submerged in water, just like paint creatures, because the Yoshis on Isle Delfino are just paint creations (remember that they are first seen in Shadow Mario's possession). Piranha Plants and Shy Guys, two of the main enemies from YoshisIsland, are recreated as the goopy piranha creatures and Swooping Stus. [[EvilKnockoff ShadowMario]] is reminiscent of Kamek, as a recurring enemy who appears at the end of each level and is Bowser's [[TheDragon right hand man]]. [[KingMook Petey Piranha]], meanwhile, is from the OTHER major battle from Bowser's childhood - [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Partners in Time]] - where it is revealed he was brought to earth by the Shroobs. Given that he dissolves into paint in VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine, he is most likely a paint replica of the real Petey (who subsequently appears in spinoffs).

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Yoshi, in VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine, dissolves when submerged in water, just like paint creatures, because the Yoshis on Isle Delfino are just paint creations (remember that they are first seen in Shadow Mario's possession). Piranha Plants and Shy Guys, two of the main enemies from YoshisIsland, VideoGame/YoshisIsland, are recreated as the goopy piranha creatures and Swooping Stus. [[EvilKnockoff ShadowMario]] is reminiscent of Kamek, as a recurring enemy who appears at the end of each level and is Bowser's [[TheDragon right hand man]]. [[KingMook Petey Piranha]], meanwhile, is from the OTHER major battle from Bowser's childhood - [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Partners in Time]] - where it is revealed he was brought to earth by the Shroobs. Given that he dissolves into paint in VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine, he is most likely a paint replica of the real Petey (who subsequently appears in spinoffs).
23rd Aug '17 11:04:20 AM CosmicFerret
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[[WMG: The Mario series takes place in the same universe as ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes and {{Garfield}}]]

This is an extension of a WMG in the ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes page. Calvin's Uncle Max and Lyman (Jon Arbuckle's one-time roomate in {{Garfield}}) are not only the same character, but they're Luigi. Compare [[http://confessionsofagamersgirlfriend.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/luigi11.png Luigi]] to [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iRE1f7T37Zk/TU_ELSUX_PI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/5t-hEW8zlN8/s1600/14.+Imaginary+Friend.gif Max]] and [[http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lyman.jpg Lyman]]; Look at the face shapes. Look at the MOUSTACHES.

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[[WMG: The Mario series takes place in the same universe as ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes and {{Garfield}}]]

ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}]]

This is an extension of a WMG in the ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes page. Calvin's Uncle Max and Lyman (Jon Arbuckle's one-time roomate in {{Garfield}}) ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}) are not only the same character, but they're Luigi. Compare [[http://confessionsofagamersgirlfriend.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/luigi11.png Luigi]] to [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iRE1f7T37Zk/TU_ELSUX_PI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/5t-hEW8zlN8/s1600/14.+Imaginary+Friend.gif Max]] and [[http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/lyman.jpg Lyman]]; Look at the face shapes. Look at the MOUSTACHES.
29th Jul '17 2:29:58 PM SayaAensland
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He takes hormones, so he has the deep voice and manly build, but female-to-male genital reconstructive surgery is still not feasible, so he still retains the, ah, equipment required to birth/lay his son. As reptiles, Koopas are capable of parthenogenesis, and that's why Junior doesn't have a mother.

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He takes hormones, so he has the deep voice and manly build, but female-to-male genital reconstructive surgery is still not feasible, so he still retains the, ah, equipment required to birth/lay his son. As reptiles, Koopas are capable of parthenogenesis, and that's why Junior doesn't have a mother.mother.

[[WMG:Mario and Peach are an AnchoredShip.]]
Peach is royalty, either the ruling monarch of a country or the heir apparent. Mario is... [[WorkingClassHero a plumber]]. If they were to marry, their marriage would be [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morganatic_marriage morganatic]], and their children would be ineligible to inherit the throne, thus setting up a SuccessionCrisis in the future. They both know this, and thus refuse to officially enter into a relationship out of a sense of duty, despite their mutual feelings for each other. They both relish it when Peach gets kidnapped; those chaste kisses on top of Bowser's castle when nobody is there to watch are the only slivers of intimacy they can ever have.
29th Jul '17 2:20:37 PM SayaAensland
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Bowser wanted an heir to take over his kingdom should anything bad happen to him, but he was getting tired of waiting for Peach to start reciprocating her feelings for him already. So Bowser consulted Kamek to help him out with his problem and, lo and behold, the Koopa wizard created Bowser Jr. out of thin air. He even made sure that this new Koopa kid looked exactly like his father. Therefore, you could say Bowser Jr. HasTwoDaddies.

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Bowser wanted an heir to take over his kingdom should anything bad happen to him, but he was getting tired of waiting for Peach to start reciprocating her feelings for him already. So Bowser consulted Kamek to help him out with his problem and, lo and behold, the Koopa wizard created Bowser Jr. out of thin air. He even made sure that this new Koopa kid looked exactly like his father. Therefore, you could say Bowser Jr. HasTwoDaddies.HasTwoDaddies.

[[WMG:Bowser is a trans man.]]
He takes hormones, so he has the deep voice and manly build, but female-to-male genital reconstructive surgery is still not feasible, so he still retains the, ah, equipment required to birth/lay his son. As reptiles, Koopas are capable of parthenogenesis, and that's why Junior doesn't have a mother.
8th Jul '17 3:49:13 PM nombretomado
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Now, yes, granted, Nintendo probably can't bring back the "Mario and Luigi are from New York" idea without getting complaints from those who remember VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland and the MarioAndLuigi series. However, ideas such as the Koopalings beings Bowser's kids and the Mario Brothers having a last name (but it doesn't have to be Mario) can be reinserted without significantly contradicting any of the past games.

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Now, yes, granted, Nintendo probably can't bring back the "Mario and Luigi are from New York" idea without getting complaints from those who remember VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland'' and the MarioAndLuigi ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series. However, ideas such as the Koopalings beings Bowser's kids and the Mario Brothers having a last name (but it doesn't have to be Mario) can be reinserted without significantly contradicting any of the past games.



[[WMG: If there is a fourth installment in the ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Mario & Luigi]]'' series, it will be on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} or UsefulNotes/WiiU.]]
For their first three games, the ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Mario & Luigi]]'' series have been exclusive to home consoles and handheld systems, respectively. Since ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'', the upcoming fourth ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' game, is going to be on a handheld system instead of a home console, perhaps the reverse will be true for an upcoming fourth ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Mario & Luigi]]'' game.
* Jossed. [[VideoGame/MarioandLuigiDreamTeam]] for the Nintendo 3DS.

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[[WMG: If there is a fourth installment in the ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Mario & Luigi]]'' ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series, it will be on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} or UsefulNotes/WiiU.]]
For their first three games, the ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Mario & Luigi]]'' ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series have been exclusive to home consoles and handheld systems, respectively. Since ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'', the upcoming fourth ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' game, is going to be on a handheld system instead of a home console, perhaps the reverse will be true for an upcoming fourth ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi Mario ''Mario & Luigi]]'' Luigi'' game.
* Jossed. [[VideoGame/MarioandLuigiDreamTeam]] ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'' for the Nintendo 3DS.



Yes, this is a silly thing to have a WMG about, but bear with me. In ''MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', Bowser is able to equip shells, armbands, rings, and.. fangs. The armbands and rings are obviously removable, and it's been shown that Koopas' shells aren't actually attached to their skeletons, but are in fact also removable. However, the only thing that you can equip which is ''not'' removable is fangs. Perhaps the truth of the matter is that during his fights with Mario & Luigi, Bowser's teeth were knocked out of his skull at some point. He has been forced to wear dentures ever since to hide this.

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Yes, this is a silly thing to have a WMG about, but bear with me. In ''MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', Bowser is able to equip shells, armbands, rings, and.. fangs. The armbands and rings are obviously removable, and it's been shown that Koopas' shells aren't actually attached to their skeletons, but are in fact also removable. However, the only thing that you can equip which is ''not'' removable is fangs. Perhaps the truth of the matter is that during his fights with Mario & Luigi, Bowser's teeth were knocked out of his skull at some point. He has been forced to wear dentures ever since to hide this.
5th Jun '17 7:05:03 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* You mean like the {{Pokemon}} Miltank and Tauros? Yeah, I figured.

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* You mean like the {{Pokemon}} Videogame/{{Pokemon}} Miltank and Tauros? Yeah, I figured.



[[WMG: ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' is a retelling of the adventure by an UnreliableNarrator Toad who may or may not turn it into a SelfInsertFic.]]

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[[WMG: ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' ''VideoGame/NewSuperdrosWii'' is a retelling of the adventure by an UnreliableNarrator Toad who may or may not turn it into a SelfInsertFic.]]




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** Yes




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* Then what are viruses?







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* Or even that he's particularly good at cards. He's the dealer, which means he just has to shuffle. Casino games are heavily stacked in the dealer's favor.




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* In the ''Disney Adventures'' magazine, Mario figures she just wanted him to fix the sink




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* [[BeardOfEvil Will there be goatees]]?



* He bears quite a bit of resemblance to archetypal hippie [[ScoobyDoo Orville "Shaggy" Rogers]]. This goes beyond the green; his desire for "lotsa spaghetti" reflect's Shaggy's BigEater traits, while his fear of the undead, despite constantly encountering it, reflects Shaggy's cowardice. Clearly, Japan interpreted these as typical hippie traits.

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* He bears quite a bit of resemblance to archetypal hippie [[ScoobyDoo [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo Orville "Shaggy" Rogers]]. This goes beyond the green; his desire for "lotsa spaghetti" reflect's Shaggy's BigEater traits, while his fear of the undead, despite constantly encountering it, reflects Shaggy's cowardice. Clearly, Japan interpreted these as typical hippie traits.



* At least partially jossed by YoshisIsland DS. His powers come from the fact that he's a Star Child. It's not explained exactly what these powers entail, but it's implied to be all the ridiculous things he manages to pull off.

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* At least partially jossed by YoshisIsland Videogame/YoshisIsland DS. His powers come from the fact that he's a Star Child. It's not explained exactly what these powers entail, but it's implied to be all the ridiculous things he manages to pull off.




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* Berries are fruit. Pineapples, one variety of the fruit in "Sunshine", are simply many berries that fuse together to form a larger fruit.



They were watching Mario is VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2. Watching and waiting to see what he could possibly do. They saw him turn fire into ice and ice into fire. They saw him defy gravity. They saw him defeat one of the most villainous creatures to every try and take over the galaxy. From their studies, they realized that Mario is a true adversary to them. And now it's their turn to defeat him. Taking control of Bowsers' Kingdom and the Mushroom Kingdom through a form of Possession, the Hell Valley Sky Trees are taking over the entire world. It's up to Mario to defeat them and free the world from this vile threat.

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They were watching Mario is VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2. Watching and waiting to see what he could possibly do. They saw him turn fire into ice and ice into fire. They saw him defy gravity. They saw him defeat one of the most villainous creatures to every ever try and take over the galaxy. From their studies, they realized that Mario is a true adversary to them. And now it's their turn to defeat him. Taking control of Bowsers' Kingdom and the Mushroom Kingdom through a form of Possession, the Hell Valley Sky Trees are taking over the entire world. It's up to Mario to defeat them and free the world from this vile threat.



[[WMG: The food-themed levels of SuperMarioWorld aren't just named after food, they're made out of those very foods]]

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[[WMG: The food-themed levels of SuperMarioWorld Videogame/SuperMarioWorld aren't just named after food, they're made out of those very foods]]



Sort of like Yoshi and Wario. Yoshi and Wario were extremely popular with the fans; thus, the two became [[BreakoutCharacter breakout characters]], causing Yoshi to go star in YoshisIsland and Wario to star in not one, but TWO series (VideoGame/WarioLand and VideoGame/WarioWare).

Now look at Rosalina. She's probably the biggest EnsembleDarkhorse since those two, maybe even bigger. Her popularity has risen to the point where she's practically omnipresent; she's shown up in not only VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy and [[spoiler: VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2]] (as well as Mario Party: Island Tour), but she's also playable in [[spoiler: SuperMario3DWorld]], MarioKartWii, MarioKart7, the upcoming Mario Kart 8, and even in the upcoming fourth VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Seriously, '''Super Smash Bros.''' She's playable in a '''MascotFighter''' when she's only a major recurring character in the series.

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Sort of like Yoshi and Wario. Yoshi and Wario were extremely popular with the fans; thus, the two became [[BreakoutCharacter breakout characters]], causing Yoshi to go star in YoshisIsland Videogame/YoshisIsland and Wario to star in not one, but TWO series (VideoGame/WarioLand and VideoGame/WarioWare).

Now look at Rosalina. She's probably the biggest EnsembleDarkhorse since those two, maybe even bigger. Her popularity has risen to the point where she's practically omnipresent; she's shown up in not only VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy and [[spoiler: VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2]] (as well as Mario Party: Island Tour), but she's also playable in [[spoiler: SuperMario3DWorld]], MarioKartWii, MarioKart7, Videogame/SuperMario3DWorld]], Videogame/MarioKartWii, Videogame/MarioKart7, the upcoming Mario Kart 8, and even in the upcoming fourth VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Seriously, '''Super Smash Bros.''' She's playable in a '''MascotFighter''' when she's only a major recurring character in the series.



Similar to the German Empire Bowser is King of an Empire made up of smaller units. These units include areas ruled by all the different mooks. For example King Boo runs the haunted areas and leads the boos while still being subordinate to Bowser. These areas send mooks to Bowser's Army as part of being incorporated into his Kingdom. Other Examples include the Shy Guys under General Guy, Bob-ombs under their king, ect. Another way this is like the German Empire is that Bowser is not only king of the whole Kingdom but also the Koopa Kingdom proper which we can assume is the largest of the Kingdoms (Much like Prussia) going from the Lethal Lava Lands to the Palm Tree Panics and Green Hill Zones of the Mushroom World. Why Bowser still goes by King and not Emperor or why the other leader can still be called king and not a lesser title is beyond me.

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Similar to the German Empire Bowser is King of an Empire made up of smaller units. These units include areas ruled by all the different mooks. For example King Boo runs the haunted areas and leads the boos while still being subordinate to Bowser. These areas send mooks to Bowser's Army as part of being incorporated into his Kingdom. Other Examples include the Shy Guys under General Guy, Bob-ombs under their king, ect.etc. Another way this is like the German Empire is that Bowser is not only king of the whole Kingdom but also the Koopa Kingdom proper which we can assume is the largest of the Kingdoms (Much like Prussia) going from the Lethal Lava Lands to the Palm Tree Panics and Green Hill Zones of the Mushroom World. Why Bowser still goes by King and not Emperor or why the other leader can still be called king and not a lesser title is beyond me.



At least, that's what older fans of SaturdaySupercade (which aired after ''MarioBros'' hit the arcade and is [[CanonImmigrant even the source of Pauline's official name]]) claim. Makes sense when one considers no relationship was given in original arcade materials (the idea they were instead a couple was only invented in early [[AllThereInTheManual home port booklets]]) and her older design might pass for [[YoungerThanTheyLook a teenager rather than a full-grown adult]], so the writers came up with a more [[ChasteToons kid-friendly familial connection]]. Nowadays with the established character backstories, this notion might conflict with the fact that [[MissingMom her prospective mother is out of the picture]], as well as there [[ParentalNeglect being absolutely no interaction with her implied father]]... Of course, there's no way to completely confirm at this time if this was [[GossipEvolution ever true in the first place]], as the bulk of the episodes are [[MissingEpisode lost]] and haven't been archived, aired or otherwise re-released since cancellation.

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At least, that's what older fans of SaturdaySupercade (which aired after ''MarioBros'' ''Videogame/MarioBros'' hit the arcade and is [[CanonImmigrant even the source of Pauline's official name]]) claim. Makes sense when one considers no relationship was given in original arcade materials (the idea they were instead a couple was only invented in early [[AllThereInTheManual home port booklets]]) and her older design might pass for [[YoungerThanTheyLook a teenager rather than a full-grown adult]], so the writers came up with a more [[ChasteToons kid-friendly familial connection]]. Nowadays with the established character backstories, this notion might conflict with the fact that [[MissingMom her prospective mother is out of the picture]], as well as there [[ParentalNeglect being absolutely no interaction with her implied father]]... Of course, there's no way to completely confirm at this time if this was [[GossipEvolution ever true in the first place]], as the bulk of the episodes are [[MissingEpisode lost]] and haven't been archived, aired or otherwise re-released since cancellation.




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* Having a Y chromosome typically doesn't make fish male, nor reptiles, nor birds, and whatever Yoshi are supposed to be it clearly isn't mammals. It's quite possible they are all male identified hermaphrodites or BizarreSexualDimorphism would render a female Yoshi indistinguishable as such.




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* Confirmed [[spoiler:Fawful is gone]].



Now the thing about having influence across many dimensions. It's been established with MarioAndLuigiPaperJam that the ''Paper Mario'' universe exists as a book in the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe. Does this mean that the brothers in the ''Mario & Luigi'' are not descended from the Ancient Tribe? Not so. These can be construed as merely separate dimensions with the brothers being essentially the same people in both dimensions. In the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe, they're simply not known as Heroes of Light but as Star Children instead, per VideoGame/YoshisIslandDS. These may take place in the same universe as Kamek specifically refers to the time he tried kidnapping them in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime''. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' also shows the brothers crossing huge amounts of space-time which is exactly what the Ancients did as they travelled to new places spreading word of the hero of legend.

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Now the thing about having influence across many dimensions. It's been established with MarioAndLuigiPaperJam Videogame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam that the ''Paper Mario'' universe exists as a book in the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe. Does this mean that the brothers in the ''Mario & Luigi'' are not descended from the Ancient Tribe? Not so. These can be construed as merely separate dimensions with the brothers being essentially the same people in both dimensions. In the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe, they're simply not known as Heroes of Light but as Star Children instead, per VideoGame/YoshisIslandDS. These may take place in the same universe as Kamek specifically refers to the time he tried kidnapping them in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime''. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' also shows the brothers crossing huge amounts of space-time which is exactly what the Ancients did as they travelled to new places spreading word of the hero of legend.



All these interpretations of [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower love is what helps the Pure Hearts break the Chaos Heart in the first place.]] Between Mario and Luigi, their brotherly love is what [[spoiler: helps Luigi survive the Chaos Heart process when he was fused with it and Dimentio despite it being, you know, an evil artefact tended to destroy the entire multiverse.]] Mario, nodding to Luigi at the end, recognises what Luigi has been through and reaffirms their bond. So for Mario and Luigi, love helped save them which, as mentioned before, was a particular trait of the Ancients.

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All these interpretations of [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower love is what helps the Pure Hearts break the Chaos Heart in the first place.]] Between Mario and Luigi, their brotherly love is what [[spoiler: helps Luigi survive the Chaos Heart process when he was fused with it and Dimentio despite it being, you know, an evil artefact tended intended to destroy the entire multiverse.]] Mario, nodding to Luigi at the end, recognises what Luigi has been through and reaffirms their bond. So for Mario and Luigi, love helped save them which, as mentioned before, was a particular trait of the Ancients.



Magic aside, there's no reason Peach wouldn't be aware if there was even a chance of Bowser having a kid with her. So she knows that she's not Bowser Jr's mama - but it's not like he'll just believe her if she says so. So instead of outright denying it, she lets him go through his monologue, figures out what he thinks is the case. Then while she's captured, she talks to Junior, asking him questions about the stories his dad's told him, slowly making him start to doubt it as the contradictions pile up. She knows she's not in any real danger - Bowser's not going to hurt her, and by extension neither is Junior, and Mario's going to come eventually - and searching for her will get him to more of the Shine Sprites and help clean up the island, which he's been charged to do anyway. On top of that, because in the end Junior's realized the truth mostly on his own, he's not so angry at his dad about the deception, so she's helped keep their relationship on good terms as well (because she's just nice like that). It fits with other aspects we've seen of her character in other games, working behind the scenes to foster a good resolution despite being in a less than optimal position to help (Enclosing items in ''SuperMarioBros3'', her actions in ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor''). Might be why Bowser started keeping her in a cage...

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Magic aside, there's no reason Peach wouldn't be aware if there was even a chance of Bowser having a kid with her. So she knows that she's not Bowser Jr's mama - but it's not like he'll just believe her if she says so. So instead of outright denying it, she lets him go through his monologue, figures out what he thinks is the case. Then while she's captured, she talks to Junior, asking him questions about the stories his dad's told him, slowly making him start to doubt it as the contradictions pile up. She knows she's not in any real danger - Bowser's not going to hurt her, and by extension neither is Junior, and Mario's going to come eventually - and searching for her will get him to more of the Shine Sprites and help clean up the island, which he's been charged to do anyway. On top of that, because in the end Junior's realized the truth mostly on his own, he's not so angry at his dad about the deception, so she's helped keep their relationship on good terms as well (because she's just nice like that). It fits with other aspects we've seen of her character in other games, working behind the scenes to foster a good resolution despite being in a less than optimal position to help (Enclosing items in ''SuperMarioBros3'', ''Videogame/SuperMarioBros3'', her actions in ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' and ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor''). Might be why Bowser started keeping her in a cage...



This is implied in ''SuperMarioBros3'', but what if the entire Mario series as a whole was like this? What if Mario is a director of an entertainment series for people of all-ages, and in reality, all the denizens of the Mario world are just everypeople who just happen to vary in shape, size, and ability? Bowser is Mario's mortal enemy in most main series games, but who's to say behind the set that he's the same? Maybe the sports spinoff games are just their days off competing in their own versions of entertainment.

And then there's ''SuperMarioBros2'' which was AllJustADream, but good ol' Director Mario wanted to make it a reality. He wanted a four-person adventure with him, his brother, his love, and one of her loyal subjects, and after years of trying to build on that old idea; behold, ''SuperMario3DWorld''!

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This is implied in ''SuperMarioBros3'', ''Videogame/SuperMarioBros3'', but what if the entire Mario series as a whole was like this? What if Mario is a director of an entertainment series for people of all-ages, and in reality, all the denizens of the Mario world are just everypeople who just happen to vary in shape, size, and ability? Bowser is Mario's mortal enemy in most main series games, but who's to say behind the set that he's the same? Maybe the sports spinoff games are just their days off competing in their own versions of entertainment.

And then there's ''SuperMarioBros2'' ''Videogame/SuperMarioBros2'' which was AllJustADream, but good ol' Director Mario wanted to make it a reality. He wanted a four-person adventure with him, his brother, his love, and one of her loyal subjects, and after years of trying to build on that old idea; behold, ''SuperMario3DWorld''!
''Videogame/SuperMario3DWorld''!



[[WMG: Shy Guys appear in [[SuperMarioBros2 Mario's dreams, because...]]]]

[[SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland He'd met them as a baby before.]]

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[[WMG: Shy Guys appear in [[SuperMarioBros2 [[Videogame/SuperMarioBros2 Mario's dreams, because...]]]]

[[SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland [[Videogame/SuperMarioWorld2YoshisIsland He'd met them as a baby before.]]




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* They could just have good hearing.
4th Jun '17 5:32:44 AM ArielLightning
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Bowser wanted an heir to take over his kingdom should anything bad happen to him, but he was getting tired of waiting for Peach to start reciprocate her feelings for him already. So Bowser consulted Kamek to help him out with his problem and, lo and behold, the Koopa wizard created Bowser Jr. out of thin air. He even made sure that this new Koopa looked exactly his father. Therefore, Bowser can be considered a TrulySingleParent.

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Bowser wanted an heir to take over his kingdom should anything bad happen to him, but he was getting tired of waiting for Peach to start reciprocate reciprocating her feelings for him already. So Bowser consulted Kamek to help him out with his problem and, lo and behold, the Koopa wizard created Bowser Jr. out of thin air. He even made sure that this new Koopa kid looked exactly like his father. Therefore, you could say Bowser can be considered a TrulySingleParent.Jr. HasTwoDaddies.
4th Jun '17 1:31:04 AM Piterpicher
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*** What if their parents were Italian Americans who lived in the Mushroom Kingdom for some reason, after the events of VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime they found it really dangerous to stay, and went back to New York. Afer living a fairly normal life Mario became a carpenter, and took Luigi along with him even though Luigi studied to become a plumber, because of that VideoGame/WreckingCrew happened (because it can be twoplayer, right?). One day Mario worked alone, and his boss, Pauline, came to see him work. But she was taken by VideoGame/DonkeyKong and Mario saved her. RescueRomance happened, but then Mario wasn't allowed to work there anymore as romance in the workplace wasn't allowed, he went to help Luigi. They got trouble with mysterious creatures coming out of the pipes in [[VideoGame/MarioBros the sewers]]. Curious, they went into the pipes and found the country their parents had desperately tried to hide from them. After being away for a long time due to saving Peach in VideoGame/SuperMarioBros, they came back only for Pauline to break up with Mario because of Peach's kissmark on his cheek. After some thinking, they [[IChooseToStay choose to stay]] in the Mushroom Kingdom as they feel more at home there.

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*** What if their parents were Italian Americans who lived in the Mushroom Kingdom for some reason, after the events of VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime'' they found it really dangerous to stay, and went back to New York. Afer living a fairly normal life Mario became a carpenter, and took Luigi along with him even though Luigi studied to become a plumber, because of that VideoGame/WreckingCrew happened (because it can be twoplayer, right?). One day Mario worked alone, and his boss, Pauline, came to see him work. But she was taken by VideoGame/DonkeyKong and Mario saved her. RescueRomance happened, but then Mario wasn't allowed to work there anymore as romance in the workplace wasn't allowed, he went to help Luigi. They got trouble with mysterious creatures coming out of the pipes in [[VideoGame/MarioBros the sewers]]. Curious, they went into the pipes and found the country their parents had desperately tried to hide from them. After being away for a long time due to saving Peach in VideoGame/SuperMarioBros, they came back only for Pauline to break up with Mario because of Peach's kissmark on his cheek. After some thinking, they [[IChooseToStay choose to stay]] in the Mushroom Kingdom as they feel more at home there.



Now the thing about having influence across many dimensions. It's been established with MarioAndLuigiPaperJam that the ''Paper Mario'' universe exists as a book in the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe. Does this mean that the brothers in the ''Mario & Luigi'' are not descended from the Ancient Tribe? Not so. These can be construed as merely separate dimensions with the brothers being essentially the same people in both dimensions. In the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe, they're simply not known as Heroes of Light but as Star Children instead, per VideoGame/YoshisIslandDS. These may take place in the same universe as Kamek specifically refers to the time he tried kidnapping them in MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime. VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy and VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 also shows the brothers crossing huge amounts of space-time which is exactly what the Ancients did as they travelled to new places spreading word of the hero of legend.

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Now the thing about having influence across many dimensions. It's been established with MarioAndLuigiPaperJam that the ''Paper Mario'' universe exists as a book in the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe. Does this mean that the brothers in the ''Mario & Luigi'' are not descended from the Ancient Tribe? Not so. These can be construed as merely separate dimensions with the brothers being essentially the same people in both dimensions. In the ''Mario & Luigi'' universe, they're simply not known as Heroes of Light but as Star Children instead, per VideoGame/YoshisIslandDS. These may take place in the same universe as Kamek specifically refers to the time he tried kidnapping them in MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime. VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime''. ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' and VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2 ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'' also shows the brothers crossing huge amounts of space-time which is exactly what the Ancients did as they travelled to new places spreading word of the hero of legend.
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