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* Since the ending of the quite eventful Season 6, things have cleared up quite a bit more, and this is how I think Season 7 will be set up: [[spoiler: Unser will be Claudius, Juice will be Laertes, and of course Jax and Gemma are Hamlet and Gertrude.]] So, the layout might go something like this:
** Ghost of Hamlet's father: J.T. and his writings. Could also be the Homeless Woman, in a weird way.
** Polonius: [[spoiler: Clay]] (Interesting note: In very early drafts of the script, he was to be the father of [[spoiler: Tara]], and throughout the series he has played a father-like figure to [[spoiler: Juice]].)
** Ophelia: [[spoiler: Tara and Opie]].
** Rosencrantz and Guildenstern: Hard to say at this point, but it will end up being two members of the club, maybe Tig and Bobby.
** Fortinbras: Again, hard to say, but it could end up being Chibs. After all, Chibs came from the Irish charter (In this instance, it could be seen as Norway), and his father (Keith McGee, in this case "King Fortinbras") was killed by someone close to Jax (Though not "Claudius" in this instance).
** Horatio: Abel and Thomas, who are told of all this through Jax's journals. This role could also end up being played by [[spoiler: Nero]].
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** [spoiler:Otto, that's who]].
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** [spoiler:Otto, [[spoiler:Otto, that's who]].
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**She also appeared in season 5 talking to a plush horse in a trash bin. This was during the big shakedown at the dog fights. I don't remember what she said, but Jax seemed to be the only on who noticed her. Right after this Jax set into motion his plan to [[spoiler: set up Damian Pope and Clay Marrow.]]
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*** I'm not sure where Sutter is going with this woman. Right before this scene Tara is singing to Thomas a song about angels before the actuall song fades in and we see these two. Maybe this woman is actually some sort of guardian angel.
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** As on John 8:32 we see her again watching a young girl who's mother was killed in a pileup caused by the semi that killed John Teller. Jax claims an old photo of her looks familiar and its insinuated that she is the homeless woman. Bear in mind, that the daughter herself suffers from bi-polar disorder as her late mother according to the father. The homeless claimed the same condition to Gemma.
*** I'm not sure where Sutter is going with this woman. Right before this scene Tara is singing to Thomas a song about angels before the actuall song fades in and we see these two. Maybe this woman is actually some sort of guardian angel.
*** I'm not sure where Sutter is going with this woman. Right before this scene Tara is singing to Thomas a song about angels before the actuall song fades in and we see these two. Maybe this woman is actually some sort of guardian angel.
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** It's actually shaping up to be the opposite; with the club drawing more heat, Nero reflects on how small time he's always been and is intimidated by the weight of problems that SAMCRO has.
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[[Lincoln Potter will return.]]
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[[Lincoln Potter will return.]]
* He was at this stage the BigGood, if a ManipulativeBastard, and in light of the events of the events of season six so far it's hinted that the Rico case may be opened up again. [[spoiler: With the school shooting and the Sons having to silence witnesses it seems that it will be something even the Galinda Cartel and CIA will have to let go of the deal they made.]] And with Lee Toric on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge who is to say he won't work with a like minded oddball, or at least bring him in?
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[[WMG: Nero will become a major problem for the sons]]
* The club owes Nero a lot of money, but he will not accept cash as payment. Seeing how Nero is slipping back into his old gang ways, this will most likely lead to him forcing the Sons to do things they don't want to.
* The club owes Nero a lot of money, but he will not accept cash as payment. Seeing how Nero is slipping back into his old gang ways, this will most likely lead to him forcing the Sons to do things they don't want to.
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* It's since been revealed that Clay definitely had Lowell Sr. tamper with JT's bike. If JT decided to end it himself, he sure picked a very coincidental time to do so.
* Piney also remarks on several occasions Jax bears a resemblance to JT. This could, however, be Piney seeing what he wants to see.
* Piney also remarks on several occasions Jax bears a resemblance to JT. This could, however, be Piney seeing what he wants to see.
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**[[spoiler:Jossed, mostly. Jax did get Tig to kill Pope, but his play was to hand Tig over to Pope, kill Pope's goons and then grant Tig his vengeance, framing Clay in the process. The ride into the sunset was made impossible by Tara's arrest over the death of the nurse.]]
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[[WMG: Jax's endgame...]]
* Will be to get Clay (or possibly Tig) to kill Damon Pope, then kill Clay (or Tig) and collect the bounty for killing Pope's killer. Then he and Tara will ride off into the sunset with their babies.
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[[WMG:The Tellers are descended from the [[RedDeadRedemption Marstons]]]]
* It would explain the angel of death theory above, as he and John were "well acquainted," and lawlessness is sort of a family tradition for the two clans.
* It would explain the angel of death theory above, as he and John were "well acquainted," and lawlessness is sort of a family tradition for the two clans.
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** I'm pretty sure she just says "the family flaw," and she has a heart surgery scar on her chest, which suggests strongly to me that it was from her.
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** I'm pretty sure she just says "the family flaw," and she has a heart surgery scar on her chest, which suggests strongly to me that it was from her. her.
* There's also the fact that Jax is blond, while John Teller has brown hair. Clay, on the other hand...
* There's also the fact that Jax is blond, while John Teller has brown hair. Clay, on the other hand...
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[[WMG: The Homeless Woman is a WMG/TimeLord.]]
* Seriously, how else could she have shown up in [[spoiler:Ireland]]?
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* She showed up [[spoiler:in Charming, just outside of Charming at the revival, in Ireland, and at the California/ Oregon border.]]
* She actually does say "Abel will help my boys." The second line "Able to help my boys," is a correction. That makes sense if one sees "her boys" as the members of the club.
* Her original appearance comes just after at the same time as Donna and Opie's decision to take the family to Abel's coming home party.
** Donna's appearance at the party led directly to [[spoiler:her death at Tig's hands]]which led to a number of other deaths throughout the series.
* Her second appearance leads Gemma to the conclusion that she is meant to be a "fierce mother." This leads her to follow Polly Zobell which [[spoiler:leads to the deaths of Edmund and Polly and through those deaths, to the death of Half-Sack.]]
[[spoiler:Her blink and you miss it appearance in Ireland leads to the deaths of Abel's adoptive parents and pretty much everyone else connected to the kidnapping.]]
Her most recent appearance [[spoiler:keeps Jax from preventing Tara's career-threatening injury, which keeps Jax and his children in Charming and in the MC. If they are providing her with a steady body count why would she let them leave?]]
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[[WMG: The Sons of Anarchy are in fact sons of [[PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt Anarchy Panty]].]]
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[[WMG:The Homeless Woman is an angel/ The Angel of Death]]
* She appears at random times and places and always to push one member of the Teller family in a particularly destiny laden direction.
*She showed up [[spoiler:in Charming, just outside of Charming at the revival, in Ireland, and at the California/ Oregon border.]]
* She actually does say "Abel will help my boys." The second line "Able to help my boys," is a correction. That makes sense if one sees "her boys" as the members of the club.
* Her original appearance comes just after at the same time as Donna and Opie's decision to take the family to Abel's coming home party.
** Donna's appearance at the party led directly to [[spoiler:her death at Tig's hands]]which led to a number of other deaths throughout the series.
* Her second appearance leads Gemma to the conclusion that she is meant to be a "fierce mother." This leads her to follow Polly Zobell which [[spoiler:leads to the deaths of Edmund and Polly and through those deaths, to the death of Half-Sack.]]
[[spoiler:Her blink and you miss it appearance in Ireland leads to the deaths of Abel's adoptive parents and pretty much everyone else connected to the kidnapping.]]
Her most recent appearance [[spoiler:keeps Jax from preventing Tara's career-threatening injury, which keeps Jax and his children in Charming and in the MC. If they are providing her with a steady body count why would she let them leave?]]
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** I'm pretty sure she just says "the family flaw," and she has a heart surgery scar on her chest, which suggests strongly to me that it was from her.
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* This seems incredibly unlikely and actually a little ignorant to me. There's a lot of assertions about gay men/couples here that aren't true.
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* Unlikely, since Jax and his brother were born with the same heart defect as Abel, and Gemma calls it the "Teller family curse," suggesting that it was in JT's blood and not hers. She could have been lying about that, I guess, but why?
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** Confirmed. Season 4 picks up 14 months later with the cast getting out of jail, enough time for Abel to become a toddler and Tara to give birth and have a seven-month-old.
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* The show has a fairly long production time between seasons, but in universe the time between seasons is fairly short(matter of weeks), and a given season rarely covers more than a couple months. Barely a full year(if that) has passed since the first episode in show. Season 4 will bridge that gap.
* The show has a fairly long production time between seasons, but in universe the time between seasons is fairly short(matter of weeks), and a given season rarely covers more than a couple months. Barely a full year(if that) has passed since the first episode in show. Season 4 will bridge that gap.
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It also explains why Kozik is constantly trying to start a fight with Tig/violence prone: as a gay man in the insanely masculine world of outlaw bikers, Kozik feels he has to be quick to violence in order to ensure no one thinks of him as a sissy incapable of holding his own due to his homosexuality. Tig might have also made homophobic remarks to Kozik, calling out his manhood due to him being gay and accused him of stalking Tig after the fact (which would explain the dialogue from Kozik's first appearance in terms of him getting into Tig's face).
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[[WMG: The Sons of Anarchy are in fact sons of [[PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt Anarchy Panty]].]]
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[[WMG:Kozik is gay/used to be Tig's boyfriend.]]
The rivalry between Tig and Kozik ultimately played out in season three as if the two were ex-lovers, as seen by Tig's refusal to allow Kozik to transfer to SAMCRO Charming and the reveal at the end of the season that the reason for Tig's hate for Kozik stems from the as of yet stated fate of a dog that both men loved.
Kozik is gay and at some point in time (possibly after Tig was divorced from his wife) entered into a sexual relationship with Tig. The dog was something Tig purchased after his divorce and he saw it as a replacement for his daughters, who he may have been denied access to after the divorce. Kozik in turn also saw the dog as a surrogate child, in the way that many gay couples treat their pets as their surrogate children since they can not have children on their own. But the relationship fell apart, most likely because Tig isn't exclusively gay whereas Kozik is exclusively homosexual. And in the midst of the break-up, something happened to the dog while it was in Kozik's company.
It also explains why Kozik is constantly trying to start a fight with Tig/violence prone: as a gay man in the insanely masculine world of outlaw bikers, Kozik feels he has to be quick to violence in order to ensure no one thinks of him as a sissy incapable of holding his own due to his homosexuality. Tig might have also made homophobic remarks to Kozik, calling out his manhood due to him being gay and accused him of stalking Tig after the fact (which would explain the dialogue from Kozik's first appearance in terms of him getting into Tig's face).
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In Season 1 Gemma burns an old photo of Gemma, Piney, John and Clay with a very pregnant Gemma in her wedding dress and in her husband John's embrace. Everyone in the photo is looking at the camera except Clay, who is looking at Gemma. In Season 2 Gemma suggests John subconsciously intended to cause the accident that took his life for reasons of unspecified pathos.
Speculation? Clay and Gemma had been having a relationship on the side for some time after Gemma became John's 'Old Lady', possibly even being the true sire of one or both of Gemma's sons. John found out about this and in anguish aimed his Harley at the front grill of an oncoming semi.
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Speculation? Clay and Gemma had been having a relationship on the side for some time after Gemma became John's 'Old Lady', possibly even being the true sire of one or both of Gemma's sons. John found out about this and in anguish aimed his Harley at the front grill of an oncoming semi.
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* Horatio -- Tara
* Polonius -- Piney
* Ophelia -- Opie
* Laertes -- Possibly Opie again.
* Rosencrantz and Guildenstern -- I'm betting Bobby, and possibly Chibs or Juice.
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