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* Not exactly jossed, but the circumstance was different. [[AllThereInTheManual In a short story about Yuuri and Airi's past, Kazumi is indeed Yuuri's friend and she's the one who suggested Yuuri to make her contract to heal Airi. But whether the original Kazumi realizes that Yuuri turned into Witch is not yet known.]]
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* Not exactly jossed, but the circumstance was different. [[spoiler: [[AllThereInTheManual In a short story about Yuuri and Airi's past, past]], Kazumi is indeed Yuuri's friend and she's the one who suggested Yuuri to make her contract to heal Airi. But whether the original Kazumi realizes that Yuuri turned into Witch is not yet known.]]
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* Turns out, [[spoiler: the real Yuuri was a ''candidate'' of the Saints that the original Kazumi will introduce when she turned into Witch.]]
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* Not exactly jossed, but the circumstance was different. [[AllThereInTheManual In a short story about Yuuri and Airi's past, Kazumi is indeed Yuuri's friend and she's the one who suggested Yuuri to make her contract to heal Airi. But whether the original Kazumi realizes that Yuuri turned into Witch is not yet known.]]
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[[WMG: Everything is a part of Juubey's [[XanatosGambit plan]].]]
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[[WMG: Everything is a part of Juubey's [[XanatosGambit plan]].]][[{{plan}}]]
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The set up is just too delicious for the Mangaka to pass up. In chapter 13, [[spoiler: [[YouAreNumberSix Kazumi learns that she is the 13th clone of the Magical Girl Kazusa]], the original founder of the Pleiades Saints, and [[CloningBlues all of the previous clones have been set loose on Kazumi.]] ]] The shock generated will send [[spoiler: [[DespairEventHorizon Kazumi over the edge into despair, and become a witch.]] Because all the other Pleiades Saints [[spoiler: might be on the verge of becoming witches, [[DespairEventHorizon the despair of their thirteenth failure to bring back Kazusa will cause them to become witches too.]] ]] The Pleiades Saints all lose, and Juubey wins. All in all, a good day of business...
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The set up is just too delicious for the Mangaka to pass up. In chapter 13, [[spoiler: [[YouAreNumberSix Kazumi learns that she is the 13th clone of the Magical Girl Kazusa]], the original founder of the Pleiades Saints, and [[CloningBlues all of the previous clones have been set loose on Kazumi.]] ]] The shock generated will send [[spoiler: [[DespairEventHorizon Kazumi over the edge into despair, and become a witch.]] Because all the other Pleiades Saints [[spoiler: might be on the verge of becoming witches, [[DespairEventHorizon the despair of their thirteenth failure to bring back Kazusa will cause them to become witches too.]] ]] The Pleiades Saints all lose, and Juubey wins. All in all, a good day of business...business...
[[WMG: All of the Pleiades Saints are [[spoiler: witches]].]]
It's not just Kazumi, all of them are the same. [[spoiler: They all became witches at some point or the other and each of them is an experiment by the remaining girls to bring them back. Each individual girl thinks she's the only remaining one that didn't turn into a witch and hides the truth from the rest, until one of them snaps.]]
[[WMG: All of the Pleiades Saints are [[spoiler: witches]].]]
It's not just Kazumi, all of them are the same. [[spoiler: They all became witches at some point or the other and each of them is an experiment by the remaining girls to bring them back. Each individual girl thinks she's the only remaining one that didn't turn into a witch and hides the truth from the rest, until one of them snaps.]]
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Think about it. Why would wishing to talk to animals let you brainwash humans? The spell is translated as ''Ghost Whisper'', and the runes resemble cat paws and tails. Not to mention that Saki appears to grow fangs while under Satomi's control.
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Think about it. Why would wishing to talk to animals let you brainwash humans? The spell is translated as ''Ghost Whisper'', and the runes resemble cat paws and tails. Not to mention that Saki appears to grow fangs while under Satomi's control.control.
[[WMG: Everything is a part of Juubey's [[XanatosGambit plan]].]]
The set up is just too delicious for the Mangaka to pass up. In chapter 13, [[spoiler: [[YouAreNumberSix Kazumi learns that she is the 13th clone of the Magical Girl Kazusa]], the original founder of the Pleiades Saints, and [[CloningBlues all of the previous clones have been set loose on Kazumi.]] ]] The shock generated will send [[spoiler: [[DespairEventHorizon Kazumi over the edge into despair, and become a witch.]] Because all the other Pleiades Saints [[spoiler: might be on the verge of becoming witches, [[DespairEventHorizon the despair of their thirteenth failure to bring back Kazusa will cause them to become witches too.]] ]] The Pleiades Saints all lose, and Juubey wins. All in all, a good day of business...
[[WMG: Everything is a part of Juubey's [[XanatosGambit plan]].]]
The set up is just too delicious for the Mangaka to pass up. In chapter 13, [[spoiler: [[YouAreNumberSix Kazumi learns that she is the 13th clone of the Magical Girl Kazusa]], the original founder of the Pleiades Saints, and [[CloningBlues all of the previous clones have been set loose on Kazumi.]] ]] The shock generated will send [[spoiler: [[DespairEventHorizon Kazumi over the edge into despair, and become a witch.]] Because all the other Pleiades Saints [[spoiler: might be on the verge of becoming witches, [[DespairEventHorizon the despair of their thirteenth failure to bring back Kazusa will cause them to become witches too.]] ]] The Pleiades Saints all lose, and Juubey wins. All in all, a good day of business...
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* Actually, it's revealed that [[spoiler:''none'' of Kazumi's memories are real. They were implanted by Umika because Kazumi is actually a clone.]]
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* {{Jossed}}. She wished [[spoiler:to cure her grandmother's illness.]]
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* {{Jossed}}.
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* Actually, Kazumi [[spoiler:literally is a new type of witch. A clone of a Puella Magi created using witch flesh.]]
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* {{Jossed}}.
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* Actually, [[spoiler:Jubey was already evil. He is only the way he is now because he was brainwashed by Umika into being nice.]]
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* {{Jossed}} in that Kazumi didn't wish for it.
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* Actually, [[spoiler:he was brainwashed by Umika to be nicer]].
* [[spoiler:Kinda confirmed. The current Kazumi is the 13th clone created from witch flesh.]]
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* Acutally, [[spoiler:Juubey was brainwashed by Umika into helping them.]]
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* This could be supported by the fact that the MagicalGirls seen using the Evil Nuts, Anri and the Soujous were already familiar with the Pleiades Saints. We know that Anri got her information about them from Kyubey and someone must have told the Soujous about the Pleiades.
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All of the big plot points - Evil Nuts, the Freezer, and the clones - are experiments to see if they can milk any more energy out of a single Puella Magi. One of the Pleiades Saints could be working with them, or it might just all be manipulation.
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All of the big plot points - Evil Nuts, the Freezer, and the clones - are experiments to see if they can milk any more energy out of a single Puella Magi. One of the Pleiades Saints could be working with them, or it might just all be manipulation.manipulation.
[[WMG: Satomi's ''Fantasma Bisbiglio'' works by possessing people with her dead cat.]]
Think about it. Why would wishing to talk to animals let you brainwash humans? The spell is translated as ''Ghost Whisper'', and the runes resemble cat paws and tails. Not to mention that Saki appears to grow fangs while under Satomi's control.
[[WMG: Satomi's ''Fantasma Bisbiglio'' works by possessing people with her dead cat.]]
Think about it. Why would wishing to talk to animals let you brainwash humans? The spell is translated as ''Ghost Whisper'', and the runes resemble cat paws and tails. Not to mention that Saki appears to grow fangs while under Satomi's control.
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* Alternatively, Jubey is only pretending to be purified so that the Pleiades won't suspect him any further; after all, who's to say that Umika's powers would work on something like an Incubator?
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* Alternatively, Jubey is only pretending to be purified so that the Pleiades won't suspect him any further; after all, who's to say that Umika's powers would work on something like an Incubator?
Incubator? Not to mention that when Kyuubey remarks about things going well "this time", most likely referring to Kazumi's clones, Jubey has an evil grin. He's clearly not working in the Pleiades' best interests.
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[[spoiler: Doesn't work perfectly. In Chapter 13, Saki points out that Nico's spare became a witch even though her Soul Gem was clear, and thinks they're all on the verge of becoming witches. Considering [[HumanPopsicle what]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman the]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Pleiades]] [[CameBackWrong do]], Jubey may be able to purify their Soul Gems, but at the cost of their sanity.]]
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[[spoiler: Doesn't work perfectly. In Chapter 13, Saki points out that Nico's spare became a witch even though her Soul Gem was clear, and thinks they're all on the verge of becoming witches. Considering [[HumanPopsicle what]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman the]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Pleiades]] [[CameBackWrong do]], Jubey may be able to purify their Soul Gems, but at the cost of their sanity.]]]]
* Alternatively, Jubey is only pretending to be purified so that the Pleiades won't suspect him any further; after all, who's to say that Umika's powers would work on something like an Incubator?
[[WMG: The Evil Nuts were created by Incubators.]]
When a Puella Magi went too long without becoming a witch (like, say, the Pleiades Saints), the Incubators would release Evil Nuts into their territory, causing her to use up magic fighting pseudo-witches and transform. Alternatively, Evil Nuts would be used to send the Puella Magi into a fit of rage and exhaust her. Tying into that...
[[WMG: The Incubators are behind most of the plot.]]
All of the big plot points - Evil Nuts, the Freezer, and the clones - are experiments to see if they can milk any more energy out of a single Puella Magi. One of the Pleiades Saints could be working with them, or it might just all be manipulation.
* Alternatively, Jubey is only pretending to be purified so that the Pleiades won't suspect him any further; after all, who's to say that Umika's powers would work on something like an Incubator?
[[WMG: The Evil Nuts were created by Incubators.]]
When a Puella Magi went too long without becoming a witch (like, say, the Pleiades Saints), the Incubators would release Evil Nuts into their territory, causing her to use up magic fighting pseudo-witches and transform. Alternatively, Evil Nuts would be used to send the Puella Magi into a fit of rage and exhaust her. Tying into that...
[[WMG: The Incubators are behind most of the plot.]]
All of the big plot points - Evil Nuts, the Freezer, and the clones - are experiments to see if they can milk any more energy out of a single Puella Magi. One of the Pleiades Saints could be working with them, or it might just all be manipulation.
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The anime taught us that [[spoiler:Incubators have multiple bodies]]. Who is to say that [[spoiler:the two making an appearance in Chapter 4 wasn't just two of the bodies together at the same time? Also, there is an instance in Chapter 10 where a silhouette that appears to be Kyubey turns out to be Jubey - page 14, to be exact. We don't know everything about Incubators, so who is to say that they don't have shapeshifting abilities in addition to everything else?]]
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The anime taught us that [[spoiler:Incubators have multiple bodies]]. Who is to say that [[spoiler:the two making an appearance in Chapter 4 wasn't just two of the bodies together at the same time? Also, there is an instance in Chapter 10 where a silhouette that appears to be Kyubey turns out to be Jubey - page 14, to be exact. We don't know everything about Incubators, so who is to say that they don't have shapeshifting abilities in addition to everything else?]]else?]]
[[WMG: Jubey's purification...]]
[[spoiler: Doesn't work perfectly. In Chapter 13, Saki points out that Nico's spare became a witch even though her Soul Gem was clear, and thinks they're all on the verge of becoming witches. Considering [[HumanPopsicle what]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman the]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Pleiades]] [[CameBackWrong do]], Jubey may be able to purify their Soul Gems, but at the cost of their sanity.]]
[[WMG: Jubey's purification...]]
[[spoiler: Doesn't work perfectly. In Chapter 13, Saki points out that Nico's spare became a witch even though her Soul Gem was clear, and thinks they're all on the verge of becoming witches. Considering [[HumanPopsicle what]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman the]] [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Pleiades]] [[CameBackWrong do]], Jubey may be able to purify their Soul Gems, but at the cost of their sanity.]]
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** Confirmed. [[spoiler: This Kazumi is a clone; ALL of her memories are fakes made by Umika.]]
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[[WMG: Kazumi's wish was become a Witch that turns into a Magical Girl.]]
There was something only a massive glut of magic could do; and it's shown that wishing ''directly'' for something is bad. It wasn't as bad as Walpurgisnacht or Kriemhild; but some super BigBad was attacking; and she needed more {{mana}} than a MagicalGirl could have to face it. She became a Witch through her wish; and Witches do NOT share with each other. Upon destroying the competition, she changed back. The memory-loss was a side-effect of this.
There was something only a massive glut of magic could do; and it's shown that wishing ''directly'' for something is bad. It wasn't as bad as Walpurgisnacht or Kriemhild; but some super BigBad was attacking; and she needed more {{mana}} than a MagicalGirl could have to face it. She became a Witch through her wish; and Witches do NOT share with each other. Upon destroying the competition, she changed back. The memory-loss was a side-effect of this.
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** [[spoiler:Holy shit CONFIRMED! The current Kazumi is the 13th of a series of clones of the original, who ended up becoming a witch.]]
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** [[spoiler:Turns out it was her grandmother, so doubly jossed.]]
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* {{Jossed}}.
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed, amazingly, though the specific details differ: Kazumi is actually a witch who's been stuffed inside a human body.]]
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[[spoiler:Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, perhaps involving the creation of the Evil Nuts, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
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[[spoiler:Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, perhaps involving the creation of the Evil Nuts, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]]]
[[WMG: Jubey is [[spoiler: Kyubey.]] ]]
The anime taught us that [[spoiler:Incubators have multiple bodies]]. Who is to say that [[spoiler:the two making an appearance in Chapter 4 wasn't just two of the bodies together at the same time? Also, there is an instance in Chapter 10 where a silhouette that appears to be Kyubey turns out to be Jubey - page 14, to be exact. We don't know everything about Incubators, so who is to say that they don't have shapeshifting abilities in addition to everything else?]]
[[WMG: Jubey is [[spoiler: Kyubey.]] ]]
The anime taught us that [[spoiler:Incubators have multiple bodies]]. Who is to say that [[spoiler:the two making an appearance in Chapter 4 wasn't just two of the bodies together at the same time? Also, there is an instance in Chapter 10 where a silhouette that appears to be Kyubey turns out to be Jubey - page 14, to be exact. We don't know everything about Incubators, so who is to say that they don't have shapeshifting abilities in addition to everything else?]]
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[[spoiler:Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
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[[spoiler:Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, perhaps involving the creation of the Evil Nuts, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
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[[spoiler: There are quite a few things here that don't add up.
* Umika and Kaoru tell Kazumi their parents are overseas in the first chapter, but according to Kazumi's memories, she only had her grandmother.
* Kaoru lied about her wish to have a strong body.
* They lied about her not telling them her wish, and also about where witches actually come from.
* The final scene of the flashback Umika shows Kazumi does not have Kazumi in it, and Airi's memories don't show Kazumi there, either. How could this be part of her memories if she wasn't there?
Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
* Umika and Kaoru tell Kazumi their parents are overseas in the first chapter, but according to Kazumi's memories, she only had her grandmother.
* Kaoru lied about her wish to have a strong body.
* They lied about her not telling them her wish, and also about where witches actually come from.
* The final scene of the flashback Umika shows Kazumi does not have Kazumi in it, and Airi's memories don't show Kazumi there, either. How could this be part of her memories if she wasn't there?
Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
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[[spoiler:Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
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* [[spoiler:Actually, her symbol is a Lily of the Valley, like Miyuki's flower, which makes this slightly less probable but not impossible.]]
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* [[spoiler: Furthermore this will result in a break in the Pleides Saints. On one side there will be Satomi, Saki and Mirai (possibly out of green-eyed jelousy towards Kazumi) trying to kill Kazumi and Umika, Kaoru and Nico trying to defend her. Given how the orginal series' loved to subvert the PowerOfFriendship coupled with AnyoneCanDie, this sounds possible.]]
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* [[spoiler: Furthermore this will result in a break in the Pleides Saints. On one side there will be Satomi, Saki and Mirai (possibly out of green-eyed jelousy towards Kazumi) trying to kill Kazumi and Umika, Kaoru and Nico trying to defend her. Given how the orginal series' loved to subvert the PowerOfFriendship coupled with AnyoneCanDie, this sounds possible.]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler:The Pleiades are lying to Kazumi, and her memories are fake.]]]]
[[spoiler: There are quite a few things here that don't add up.
* Umika and Kaoru tell Kazumi their parents are overseas in the first chapter, but according to Kazumi's memories, she only had her grandmother.
* Kaoru lied about her wish to have a strong body.
* They lied about her not telling them her wish, and also about where witches actually come from.
* The final scene of the flashback Umika shows Kazumi does not have Kazumi in it, and Airi's memories don't show Kazumi there, either. How could this be part of her memories if she wasn't there?
Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler:The Pleiades are lying to Kazumi, and her memories are fake.]]]]
[[spoiler: There are quite a few things here that don't add up.
* Umika and Kaoru tell Kazumi their parents are overseas in the first chapter, but according to Kazumi's memories, she only had her grandmother.
* Kaoru lied about her wish to have a strong body.
* They lied about her not telling them her wish, and also about where witches actually come from.
* The final scene of the flashback Umika shows Kazumi does not have Kazumi in it, and Airi's memories don't show Kazumi there, either. How could this be part of her memories if she wasn't there?
Umika is shown to have memory-altering powers, making this a possibility. They might be doing it because Kazumi was on the verge of becoming a witch before her memory loss due to some incident, and so they're trying to hide it from her. It's also possible she already turned into a witch, and Kazumi is their experiment to test if they can bring girls back from witchdom.]]
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[[spoiler: Satomi shares personality traits with Mami such as patience, friendliness as well as a hidden fragile mind with a tendency to snap. The end of Chapter 12 shows her suggesting to Saki to kill Kazumi with a SlasherSmile after the Evil Nuts insignia appears in her eyes before her fainting. In the orginal series, third timeline Mami wound up killing kyouko in a murder-suicide attempt after finding out the AwfulTruth about MagicalGirls and was killed by Madoka before she could kill Homura. Its possible that Satomi may have concluded that Kazumi was the one responsible for creating the Evil Nuts and seen her as a threat to be eliminated. She will then try to kill Kazumi resulting in the other Pleides or Kazumi herself killing her making her earlier words about not wanting to die Ironic and HarsherInHindsight. Bonus points if her crazyness results in her worst fear of turning into a witch. ]]
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[[spoiler: Satomi shares personality traits with Mami such as patience, friendliness as well as a hidden fragile mind with a tendency to snap. The end of Chapter 12 shows her suggesting to Saki to kill Kazumi with a SlasherSmile after the Evil Nuts insignia appears in her eyes before her fainting. In the orginal series, third timeline Mami wound up killing kyouko in a murder-suicide attempt after finding out the AwfulTruth about MagicalGirls and was killed by Madoka before she could kill Homura. Its possible that Satomi may have concluded that Kazumi was the one responsible for creating the Evil Nuts and seen her as a threat to be eliminated. She will then try to kill Kazumi resulting in the other Pleides or Kazumi herself killing her making her earlier words about not wanting to die Ironic and HarsherInHindsight. Bonus points if her crazyness results in her worst fear of turning into a witch. ]]
*[[spoiler: Furthermore this will result in a break in the Pleides Saints. On one side there will be Satomi, Saki and Mirai (possibly out of green-eyed jelousy towards Kazumi) trying to kill Kazumi and Umika, Kaoru and Nico trying to defend her. Given how the orginal series' loved to subvert the PowerOfFriendship coupled with AnyoneCanDie, this sounds possible.]]
*[[spoiler: Furthermore this will result in a break in the Pleides Saints. On one side there will be Satomi, Saki and Mirai (possibly out of green-eyed jelousy towards Kazumi) trying to kill Kazumi and Umika, Kaoru and Nico trying to defend her. Given how the orginal series' loved to subvert the PowerOfFriendship coupled with AnyoneCanDie, this sounds possible.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Satomi will die.]]]]
[[spoiler: Satomi shares personality traits with Mami such as patience, friendliness as well as a hidden fragile mind with a tendency to snap. The end of Chapter 12 shows her suggesting to Saki to kill Kazumi with a SlasherSmile after the Evil Nuts insignia appears in her eyes before her fainting. In the orginal series, third timeline Mami wound up killing kyouko in a murder-suicide attempt after finding out the AwfulTruth about MagicalGirls and was killed by Madoka before she could kill Homura. Its possible that Satomi may have concluded that Kazumi was the one responsible for creating the Evil Nuts and seen her as a threat to be eliminated. She will then try to kill Kazumi resulting in the other Pleides or Kazumi herself killing her making her earlier words about not wanting to die Ironic and HarsherInHindsight. Bonus points if her crazyness results in her worst fear of turning into a witch. ]]
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Satomi will die.]]]]
[[spoiler: Satomi shares personality traits with Mami such as patience, friendliness as well as a hidden fragile mind with a tendency to snap. The end of Chapter 12 shows her suggesting to Saki to kill Kazumi with a SlasherSmile after the Evil Nuts insignia appears in her eyes before her fainting. In the orginal series, third timeline Mami wound up killing kyouko in a murder-suicide attempt after finding out the AwfulTruth about MagicalGirls and was killed by Madoka before she could kill Homura. Its possible that Satomi may have concluded that Kazumi was the one responsible for creating the Evil Nuts and seen her as a threat to be eliminated. She will then try to kill Kazumi resulting in the other Pleides or Kazumi herself killing her making her earlier words about not wanting to die Ironic and HarsherInHindsight. Bonus points if her crazyness results in her worst fear of turning into a witch. ]]
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* [[spoiler: It was Umika's wish.]]
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* [[spoiler: He was an Incubator affected by a wish. However, emotion really might be a mental illness here.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's grief sees is a butterfly. [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's grief sees seed is a butterfly. [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's griefis a butterfly. [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's griefis grief sees is a butterfly. [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's griefis a butterfly. [[In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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The symbol on the top of Saki's soul gem and Gertrud's griefis a butterfly. [[In [[spoiler: In the flashback in chapter ten, Saki shows and interest in flowers. The symbol on top of Gertrud's grief seed is a butterfly. This article [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Speculah:Grief_Seeds]] shows that the symbol on both Sayaka's soull gem and Oktavia's is the same musical note. Gertrud is shown to obsessed with roses, and Saki's flashback shows her with lily-of-the-valley flowers saying that her dream is to make a wedding bouquet out of them. Her friend Miyuki says that's impossible as no man is good enough for her, and says she wants to marry Saki. Miyuki is later killed in a car crash. Gertrud's witch card says that "She holds roses dearer than anything else. She expends all of her power for the sake of beautiful roses. Despite stealing the life-force of humans who wander into her barrier to give to her roses, she loathes the thought of them trampling the inside of her barrier.". Roses could represent Miyuki, and the thought someone destroying flowers could represent the car crash that killed Miyuki. Roses are symbols of love, which is why Gertrud's barrier is filled with roses instead of lily-of-the-valleys.]]
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*Not to mention none of the characters seem to know the Grief Seeds remove the taint from Soul Gems
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