History WMG / PokemonAshFather

11th Apr '16 2:18:51 PM Willbyr
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* [[{{Terranigma}} And once he's done saving the world, he will lose everything in the journey, even his own freedom as he is re-absorbed by the earth itself because his purpose has been served and he is now useless, cuing one of the most depressing endings to an anime ever.]] And then he'll be revived in the 856th movie to combat the forces of Chaos. Because Ash is really Jesus, who is really the Emperor.

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* [[{{Terranigma}} [[VideoGame/{{Terranigma}} And once he's done saving the world, he will lose everything in the journey, even his own freedom as he is re-absorbed by the earth itself because his purpose has been served and he is now useless, cuing one of the most depressing endings to an anime ever.]] And then he'll be revived in the 856th movie to combat the forces of Chaos. Because Ash is really Jesus, who is really the Emperor.
13th Feb '16 5:58:58 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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[[WMG: Ash is Aaron's reincarnation.]]
They share the exact same aura.
13th Feb '16 3:54:24 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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[[WMG: Ash's father was intended to be Ash's final challenge.]]
There's got to be some reason why Ash's father has never appeared, and this would be a pretty good one. Ash's father was intended to be the final trainer Ash would need to fight in order to become a Pokemon Master, whatever that may entail. The show was initially going to end at Kanto, and Ash's father was mentioned near the beginning because they were planning to foreshadow him. As time passed on, it became more clear [[MerchandiseDriven they couldn't end it at Kanto]], and as such had to cancel any development around Mr Ketchum. Ash's father will never appear by virtue of the anime itself never ending, and still isn't mentioned because of that. Needless to say, if the original plan went through Ash's father is probably the strongest trainer either then or since, and likely has legendaries on his team.
24th Jan '16 12:38:14 AM X2X
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* Through a cursed Online Dating program that Delila used?

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* Through a cursed Online Dating program that Delila Delia used?
24th Jan '16 12:37:57 AM X2X
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[[WMG:Ash's father's is [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]].]]

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[[WMG:Ash's father's father is [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]].]]



(On a tangential note, this means that as [[Anime/PokemonDiancieAndTheCocoonOfDestruction Xerneas was able to restore various casualties from being turned to stone by Yveltal's Oblivion Wing with Geomancy]], its Fairy Aura is likely Spiral Energy in another, calmer and more passive form.)

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(On a tangential note, this means that that, as [[Anime/PokemonDiancieAndTheCocoonOfDestruction Xerneas was able to restore various casualties from being turned to stone by Yveltal's Oblivion Wing with Geomancy]], its Fairy Aura is likely Spiral Energy in another, calmer and more passive form.)
15th Jan '16 11:45:44 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* [[WMG: [[FlatWhat Rika Nonaka is Ash's father]].]]

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* [[WMG: [[FlatWhat Rika Nonaka is Ash's father]].father.]]



'''JUST WHO THE HELL DID YOU THINK HE WAS?!''' [------ I honestly can't believe it took this long for anyone here to suggest this. ------]

All of those times when Ash went against logic and came out on top (the infamous [[LightningCanDoAnything Thunder]] '''[[NewRulesAsThePlotDemands Armor]]''' moment from the battle with Lisa and Tate ''[[AssPull leaps]]'' to mind) are because his HotBlooded nature taps into his latent Spiral Energy-induced powers, and we all know you just [[BeyondTheImpossible kick reason to the curb]] where Spiral Energy is concerned.

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'''JUST WHO THE HELL DID YOU THINK HE WAS?!''' [------ I honestly can't believe it took this long for anyone here to suggest this. ------]

WAS?!'''

All of those times when Ash went against logic and came out on top (the infamous [[LightningCanDoAnything Thunder]] '''[[NewRulesAsThePlotDemands Armor]]''' moment from the battle with Lisa and Tate ''[[AssPull leaps]]'' ''leaps'' to mind) are because his HotBlooded nature taps into his latent Spiral Energy-induced powers, and we all know you just [[BeyondTheImpossible kick reason to the curb]] curb and DO THE IMPOSSIBLE!]] where Spiral Energy is concerned.
8th Jan '16 9:23:04 PM X2X
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* Ladies and gentlemen, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOOTTpQ1zwg&feature=player_detailpage#t=78s Ash using his Saiyan flight powers to chase a villain.]] I believe Movie 9 has given this guess '''''evidence'''''.

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* Ladies and gentlemen, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOOTTpQ1zwg&feature=player_detailpage#t=78s com/watch?v=MOOTTpQ1zwg#t=78s Ash using his Saiyan flight powers to chase a villain.]] I believe Movie 9 has given this guess '''''evidence'''''.



** well, in the movie, Mr. Fox ''does'' have a son named Ash.

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** well, Well, in the movie, Mr. Fox ''does'' have a son named Ash.



[[WMG:'''[[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK HE IS?!]]''' Kamina's son, that's who!]]
I can't believe it took this long for anyone here to suggest this.

All of those multiple times where Ash went against logic and came out on top (the infamous [[LightningCanDoAnything Thunder]] '''[[NewRulesAsThePlotDemands Armor]]''' moment from the battle with Lisa and Tate ''[[AssPull leaps]]'' to mind) are because his HotBlooded nature taps into his latent Spiral Energy-induced powers, and we all know you just [[BeyondTheImpossible kick reason to the curb]] where Spiral Energy is concerned.

[[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura]], in fact, is simply another name for Spiral Energy, and all of Ash's [[DeathIsCheap revivals after his various deaths]] ([[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie restored to life by by Pokémon tears after being caught between Mew and Mewtwo's blasts]], [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew eaten by the Tree of Beginning's "antibodies" but "spit up" at Mew's behest]], [[Anime/PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea drowned but returned to life by Manaphy]]), can be attributed to a violation of Simon's First Law of Spiral Energy (i.e. no [[BackFromTheDead resurrections]]).

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[[WMG:'''[[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann JUST [[WMG:Ash's father's is [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]].]]

'''JUST
WHO THE HELL DO DID YOU THINK HE IS?!]]''' Kamina's son, that's who!]]
WAS?!''' [------ I honestly can't believe it took this long for anyone here to suggest this.

this. ------]

All of those multiple times where when Ash went against logic and came out on top (the infamous [[LightningCanDoAnything Thunder]] '''[[NewRulesAsThePlotDemands Armor]]''' moment from the battle with Lisa and Tate ''[[AssPull leaps]]'' to mind) are because his HotBlooded nature taps into his latent Spiral Energy-induced powers, and we all know you just [[BeyondTheImpossible kick reason to the curb]] where Spiral Energy is concerned.

[[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura]], in fact, is simply another name for Spiral Energy, and all of Ash's [[DeathIsCheap revivals after his various deaths]] ([[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie restored to life by by Pokémon tears after being caught between Mew and Mewtwo's blasts]], [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew eaten by the Tree of Beginning's "antibodies" but "spit up" at Mew's behest]], [[Anime/PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea drowned but returned to life by Manaphy]]), Manaphy]]) can be attributed to a violation of Simon's First Law of Spiral Energy (i.e. no [[BackFromTheDead resurrections]]).
8th Jan '16 4:27:01 PM X2X
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This WMG page can be considered a subpage of WMG/PokemonAnime and by extension {{WMG/Pokemon}}, and is solely to put your wild mass guesses about Ash Ketchum's father on. The "Eagun is Ash" theory goes on the [[WMG/PokemonColosseum Colosseum page]]. '''Crossovers get their own section.'''

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This WMG page can be considered a subpage of WMG/PokemonAnime and by extension {{WMG/Pokemon}}, WMG/{{Pokemon}}, and is solely to put your wild mass guesses about Ash Ketchum's father on. The "Eagun is Ash" theory goes on the [[WMG/PokemonColosseum Colosseum page]]. '''Crossovers get their own section.'''


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[[WMG:'''[[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK HE IS?!]]''' Kamina's son, that's who!]]
I can't believe it took this long for anyone here to suggest this.

All of those multiple times where Ash went against logic and came out on top (the infamous [[LightningCanDoAnything Thunder]] '''[[NewRulesAsThePlotDemands Armor]]''' moment from the battle with Lisa and Tate ''[[AssPull leaps]]'' to mind) are because his HotBlooded nature taps into his latent Spiral Energy-induced powers, and we all know you just [[BeyondTheImpossible kick reason to the curb]] where Spiral Energy is concerned.

[[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew Aura]], in fact, is simply another name for Spiral Energy, and all of Ash's [[DeathIsCheap revivals after his various deaths]] ([[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie restored to life by by Pokémon tears after being caught between Mew and Mewtwo's blasts]], [[Anime/PokemonLucarioAndTheMysteryOfMew eaten by the Tree of Beginning's "antibodies" but "spit up" at Mew's behest]], [[Anime/PokemonRangerAndTheTempleOfTheSea drowned but returned to life by Manaphy]]), can be attributed to a violation of Simon's First Law of Spiral Energy (i.e. no [[BackFromTheDead resurrections]]).

(On a tangential note, this means that as [[Anime/PokemonDiancieAndTheCocoonOfDestruction Xerneas was able to restore various casualties from being turned to stone by Yveltal's Oblivion Wing with Geomancy]], its Fairy Aura is likely Spiral Energy in another, calmer and more passive form.)
8th Jan '16 4:01:52 PM X2X
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** He also Expied Ash in a few ways; with his own version of Pikachu, Charizard and Ho-OH (Early encounter) with Chikorita, Salamence and Moltres

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** He also Expied Ash in a few ways; with his own version of Pikachu, Charizard and Ho-OH Ho-Oh (Early encounter) with Chikorita, Salamence and Moltres
Moltres.



* Or if the Profesor Oak is Ashes father is true, you can have this theory and have Oak actually be Garys grandfather

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* Or if the Profesor above Professor Oak is Ashes Ash's father is true, you can have this theory and have Oak actually be Garys grandfather
Gary's grandfather.



* Notably, the fifth Pokemon Movie just ''happens'' to feature a female Legendary Pokemon (Latias) who can take a human form... and she just happens to get a crush on Ash. She even gives him his (presumably) Main/FirstKiss.

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* Notably, the fifth Pokemon Movie just ''happens'' to feature a female Legendary Pokemon (Latias) who can take a human form... and she just happens to get a crush on Ash. She even gives him his (presumably) Main/FirstKiss.FirstKiss.



* Alternatively, Lugia could have done this in the past and created human descendants, from one of whom Ash is descended. That would explain why there are a bunch of Ash look-alikes running around- they are also Lugia's desendants. We can still have the Giovanni-is-Ash's-father theory in play. Or the Professor Oak-is-Ash's-father theory, if you're into that sorta thing.

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* Alternatively, Lugia could have done this in the past and created human descendants, from one of whom Ash is descended. That would explain why there are a bunch of Ash look-alikes running around- they are also Lugia's desendants.descendants. We can still have the Giovanni-is-Ash's-father theory in play. Or the Professor Oak-is-Ash's-father theory, if you're into that sorta thing.



** Considering that Ash has been 10 for a few years, I wouldn't be surprized if Brock has been 15 for a while, too.

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** Considering that Ash has been 10 for a few years, I wouldn't be surprized surprised if Brock has been 15 for a while, too.



* Also, the dad-runs-a-gym bit is used in Ruby and Sapphire. For the first six or so seasons, Brock ''acts'' more like Ash's "cool dad" than his friend. ([[{{Flanderization}} After that point]] ...)

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* Also, the dad-runs-a-gym bit is used in Ruby ''Ruby and Sapphire.Sapphire''. For the first six or so seasons, Brock ''acts'' more like Ash's "cool dad" than his friend. ([[{{Flanderization}} After that point]] ...point]]...)



** ...this was Jossed and someone's in denial.

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** ...this This was Jossed and someone's in denial.



Lugia somehow fathered Sir Aaron, some of his desendants left his homeland at some point, Ash and his father are direct desendants of these people, and Richie and all the people who look like Ash are offshoots of the line. The reason they all still look alike is because of the power of Lugia in their bloodline or something. If Giovanni is Ash's father and a desendant of Lugia, he may be Trying To Take Over The World because he sensed that he was more powerful than ordinary humans somehow. So Lugia -> Sir Aaron -/-> Giovanni -> Ash.
* Slightly {{Jossed}}; Giovanni's kid has red hair. I know this because I played the FRLG games.

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Lugia somehow fathered Sir Aaron, some of his desendants descendants left his homeland at some point, Ash and his father are direct desendants descendants of these people, and Richie and all the people who look like Ash are offshoots of the line. The reason they all still look alike is because of the power of Lugia in their bloodline or something. If Giovanni is Ash's father and a desendant descendant of Lugia, he may be Trying To Take Over The World because he sensed that he was more powerful than ordinary humans somehow. So Lugia -> Sir Aaron -/-> Giovanni -> Ash.
* Slightly {{Jossed}}; Giovanni's kid has red hair. I know this because I played the FRLG ''FRLG'' games.



** Is Silver, the rival from Pokemon Gold and Silver, just dead meat now?

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** Is Silver, the rival from Pokemon ''Pokémon Gold and Silver, Silver'', just dead meat now?



* ''[[TheStoic Cyrus]]'' slept with Delia?! That's absurd. Of course, that wouldn't stop him from being a sperm donor(he would've been only 17 at the time, and probably still coming to grips with puberty.)
** It's not absurd when you consider the fact that Delia was herself was only 19 when Ash was born; Cyrus would have been in her age group

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* ''[[TheStoic Cyrus]]'' slept with Delia?! That's absurd. Of course, that wouldn't stop him from being a sperm donor(he donor (he would've been only 17 at the time, and probably still coming to grips with puberty.)
puberty).
** It's not absurd when you consider the fact that Delia was herself was only 19 when Ash was born; Cyrus would have been in her age group
group.



Could easily be Lucas though, considering the craziness of these theories.
** Or Red, Ethan, [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger Lunick]]…

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Could easily be Lucas Lucas, though, considering the craziness of these theories.
** Or Red, Ethan, [[VideoGame/PokemonRanger Lunick]]…
Lunick]]...



When Sabrina lost her temper with her parents once and for all and turned her mother into a doll, her father fled as far away as he could manage, Pallet Town. Believing his wife to be dead, nobody else seems to have doll making powers, he was found grieving by Delia. She comforted him and the two eventually fell in love and had Ash. Ash inherited psychic power from his father but after the problems wit Sabrina his parents decided to not let him develop them, used only instictively to bond with Pokemon. Before the start of the series Ash's father learned that his first wife was still alive and left to try and help, Delia was naturally understanding and wishing him luck. When Ash gets to Lavender Town his father attempts to warn him off but also uses his powers to prevent Ash from recognizing him, which leads to the whole photographer misunderstanding.

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When Sabrina lost her temper with her parents once and for all and turned her mother into a doll, her father fled as far away as he could manage, Pallet Town. Believing his wife to be dead, nobody else seems to have doll making powers, he was found grieving by Delia. She comforted him and the two eventually fell in love and had Ash. Ash inherited psychic power from his father but after the problems wit Sabrina his parents decided to not let him develop them, used only instictively instinctively to bond with Pokemon. Before the start of the series Ash's father learned that his first wife was still alive and left to try and help, Delia was naturally understanding and wishing him luck. When Ash gets to Lavender Town his father attempts to warn him off but also uses his powers to prevent Ash from recognizing him, which leads to the whole photographer misunderstanding.



It has been stated that she and Ash knew each other in Pallet long ago. This is because she's his sister and their parents each took one when they split. Serena will have a father shown, with no mother present at all. Exactly opposite Ash's situation. It also helps that she's a pallete-swap of Leaf, the female PC from LeafGreen

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It has been stated that she and Ash knew each other in Pallet long ago. This is because she's his sister and their parents each took one when they split. Serena will have a father shown, with no mother present at all. Exactly opposite Ash's situation. It also helps that she's a pallete-swap of Leaf, the female PC from LeafGreen[=LeafGreen=]



I mean, becoming a Pokemon Master is implied to be capturing at least one of every single solitary type of Pokemon ever, including Legendaries. So that would take an absurd amount of time, so much so that the task would take one almost a lifetime to do in-universe, but Ash's dad was able to do it in a fraction of the time because he always put his time to good use. This also explains why Legendaries take to Ash like a Litwick to a soul: because they can sense he's the son of their beloved Master. Ash's father is the only man in the entire world who knows about every single type of Pokemon across all the regions (including future ones), and possibly is the one responsible for all the data in a Pokedex about Pokemon people know little about, such as legendaries and just never takes credit for saying anything/proposing "ideas". To keep his identity hidden and his Pokemon protected, he has his own Pokemon Reserve, like a Professor does. He does this because he's the Pokemon Master, and doesn't want people to use his son or his wife as leverage to get to his Pokemon or to use his skill with Pokemon to their advantage. His Pokemon keep track of his wife and son and protect them (Mimey and Pikachu being candidates, with Mimey choosing to stay with Delia but never actually being caught, and Pikachu being a gift to Ash and it's possible the reason he's so temperamental at first is he was unhappy about both being away from his Master and being in a Pokeball. When he sees Ash is just as kind as his first Master, he warms up to Ash. This is also why Pikachu is so absurdly powerful- he was trained by the Master himself).

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I mean, becoming a Pokemon Master is implied to be capturing at least one of every single solitary type of Pokemon ever, including Legendaries. So that would take an absurd amount of time, so much so that the task would take one almost a lifetime to do in-universe, but Ash's dad was able to do it in a fraction of the time because he always put his time to good use. This also explains why Legendaries take to Ash like a Litwick to a soul: because they can sense he's the son of their beloved Master. Ash's father is the only man in the entire world who knows about every single type of Pokemon across all the regions (including future ones), and possibly is the one responsible for all the data in a Pokedex about Pokemon people know little about, such as legendaries and just never takes credit for saying anything/proposing "ideas". To keep his identity hidden and his Pokemon protected, he has his own Pokemon Reserve, like a Professor does. He does this because he's the Pokemon Master, and doesn't want people to use his son or his wife as leverage to get to his Pokemon or to use his skill with Pokemon to their advantage. His Pokemon keep track of his wife and son and protect them (Mimey and Pikachu being candidates, with Mimey choosing to stay with Delia but never actually being caught, and Pikachu being a gift to Ash and it's possible the reason he's so temperamental at first is he was unhappy about both being away from his Master and being in a Pokeball. When he sees Ash is just as kind as his first Master, he warms up to Ash. This is also why Pikachu is so absurdly powerful- he powerful--he was trained by the Master himself).himself).

[[WMG: Charles the heartbreaker is Ash's father.]]
He's a heartbreaker... He broke a woman's heart... Her name... Delia. And so they never decided to talk about him again.



[[WMG:[[Manga/OsuTatakaeOuendan Ippongi Ryuta]] Is Ash's Father.]]

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[[WMG:[[Manga/OsuTatakaeOuendan Ippongi Ryuta]] Is is Ash's Father.]]



[[WMG:[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Bob]] is Ash’s father.]]
See also “Ash’s father really gets around” in the next folder.

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[[WMG:[[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Bob]] is Ash’s Ash's father.]]
See also “Ash’s "Ash's father really gets around” around" in the next folder.



[[WMG:Ash's father is [[{{Manga/Berserk}} Guts]].]]

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[[WMG:Ash's father is [[{{Manga/Berserk}} [[Manga/{{Berserk}} Guts]].]]



[[WMG: Charles the heartbreaker is Ash's father.]]
He's a heartbreaker...he broke a woman's heart...her name...Deila. And so they never decided to talk about him again.



[[WMG: [[DragonBall Goku]] is Ash's father.]]

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[[WMG: [[DragonBall [[Franchise/DragonBall Goku]] is Ash's father.]]



[[WMG: Aang is Ash's father]]

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[[WMG: Aang [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Aang]] is Ash's father]]



[[WMG: Tai (of Digimon) is Ash's father.]]

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[[WMG: Tai (of Digimon) ''Anime/{{Digimon|Adventure}}'') is Ash's father.]]



[[WMG: Porky from Videogame/EarthBound is Ash's father]]

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[[WMG: Porky from Videogame/EarthBound ''VideoGame/EarthBound'' is Ash's father]]



[[WMG: Dr. Wily from Mega Man is Ash's father]]
...He was a looker in his youth if Gigamix is anything to go by. Delia met hot young Wily, they got it on. Wily heads off to robotics college. Delia never heard from sexy young Albert Wily ever again.

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[[WMG: Dr. Wily from Mega Man ''VideoGame/{{Mega Man|Classic}}'' is Ash's father]]
...He was a looker in his youth if Gigamix ''Gigamix'' is anything to go by. Delia met hot young Wily, they got it on. Wily heads off to robotics college. Delia never heard from sexy young Albert Wily ever again.



[[WMG: Spirit Albarn is Ash's Father]]

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[[WMG: [[Manga/SoulEater Spirit Albarn Albarn]] is Ash's Father]]



[[WMG: Waluigi is Ash's father]]

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[[WMG: Waluigi [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Waluigi]] is Ash's father]]



[[WMG:[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/Godzilla Dr. Serizawa]] is Ash's Father]]
When Godzilla first attacked [[Main/TheTokyoFireball Tokyo]], Dr.Serizawa sacrificed himself to stop Godzilla and to keep his weapon of mass destruction from falling in the wrong hands. In an effort to defend themselves against the Kaiju, Pokemon training was made an official sport in case the Kaiju should return. [[Film/GodzillaRaidsAgain They]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Mothra did]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Rodan return]].

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[[WMG:[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/Godzilla [[WMG:[[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} Dr. Serizawa]] is Ash's Father]]
When Godzilla first attacked [[Main/TheTokyoFireball Tokyo]], Dr.Serizawa sacrificed himself to stop Godzilla and to keep his weapon of mass destruction from falling in the wrong hands. In an effort to defend themselves against the Kaiju, Pokemon training was made an official sport in case the Kaiju should return. [[Film/GodzillaRaidsAgain They]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Mothra [[Film/{{Mothra}} did]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Rodan [[Film/{{Rodan}} return]].



[[WMG: Darth Vader is Ash's father.]]

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[[WMG: [[Franchise/StarWars Darth Vader Vader]] is Ash's father.]]



[[WMG: Theodore Jasper "T.J." Detweiler is Ash's father.]]

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[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/{{Recess}} Theodore Jasper "T.J." Detweiler Detweiler]] is Ash's father.]]
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[[WMG: [[RedVsBlue Caboose]] is Ash's father.]]

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[[WMG: [[RedVsBlue [[Machinima/RedVsBlue Caboose]] is Ash's father.]]
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