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* Trouble is, and I speak as both the son of a preacher and a lifetime D&D nerd when I say this, the cosmologies and metaphysics of D&D and the Bible are incompatible. Even aside from the obvious issues such as the respective quantities of deities and afterlives, there are such issues as: 1)The Bible runs purely on GoodVsEvil, whereas in D&D OrderVsChaos is just as important. 2)Evil is a corruption and deviation on the norm that is Good in the Bible, whereas in D&D Evil and Good have independent existence and have equal metaphysical "validity." 3)Angels, devils, and demons are all distinct beings in D&D, whereas in the Bible they're all the same "species" (for lack of a better term), the difference between them being the same as the difference between a good human and an evil one. 4)In the Bible, angels and demons are immortal, incorporeal spirits and TheNeedless. In D&D, they are as physical, killable, and in need of sustenance as a human. 5)In D&D, the gods and outsiders are sexed beings just as mortals are (DependingOnTheWriter, admittedly), whereas Yahweh, angels, and demons are not, due to predating such aspects of mortal biology as much as rocks and rivers do. 6)In D&D, the gods are finite in power, finite in knowledge, [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly need prayer badly]], temporal beings with a distinct past, present, and future, and can be killed. None of this is true of Yahweh.

Chris Avellone has said that Ravel's existence spreads through the planes like the branches of a tree. The other incarnations that appear in Planescape echo her existence in small or large ways. Due to the nature of belief on the planes, these incarnations may not ''start out'' resembling Ravel, but they come to resemble her in their lifetimes. Here are some from other planes:

** The problem is that the Blood War has never had much in the way of collateral damage. It's always been contained to the lower planes, and is viewed by most everyone as a ''positive'' thing. It keeps the demons and devils occupied so they don't conquer the multiverse.
*** Yeah, the Blood War is a ''good'' thing. It keeps the demons and devils fighting each other instead of overrunning the rest of the cosmos.
*** According to canon source material, the Baatezu and Tanar'ri first met millennia before they discovered man, which means the Blood War probably predates mortals.

* Alternatively, he committed a grave sin but his regret magnified the severity of the sin to the point where he convinced himself that even an eternity of servitude in the Blood War wouldn't be enough to absolve him of his sin.

* Alternatively, he committed a grave sin but his regret magnified the scale of the sin to the point where even an eternity of servitude in the Blood War wouldn't absolve him of his sin.

* IcewindDale: The blind seer and the cat lady of Targos (confirmed by Chris Avellone himself)

* VideoGame/{{Fable|I}}: Theresa, blind seeress possessed of incredible longevity and arcane magical knowledge
* KnightsOfTheOldRepublic: Kreia, twisted blind seeress possessed of arcane magical knowledge. For bonus points, written by Chris Avellone and imbued with some elements that didn't make it into Ravel's character.
* VideoGame/FinalFantasyI: Old and insane blind seer, Matoya
* Franchise/TheDarkTower: Rhea of the Cöos
* VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines: Pisha the Nagaraja, a flesh eating vampire living underneath an abandoned hospital, with a vast knowledge of magic and the future.
* VideoGame/SilentHill1: Dahlia Gillespie, evil, demonic witch extraordinaire. Dahlia is probably only just becoming one of Ravel's avatars, and the first hint is her looking ancient while really being only 40.
* VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}: Granny Rags, the blind old witch who lives in her apartment, with magic powers and [[spoiler:control over the plague rats]].
* VideoGame/TheWitcher3WildHunt: The Ladies of the Wood and She-Who-Knows. Four powerful old crones, three of whom are figuratively blind (deformed eyes and covered faces), the fourth being trapped in a tree.

* VampireTheMasqueradeBloodlines: Pisha the Nagaraja, a flesh eating vampire living underneath an abandoned hospital, with a vast knowledge of magic and the future.

** If PST follows the rules of {{PlaneScape}}, Gate ''cannot'' penetrate the Lady of Pain's defense. Nothing can. If twenty gods teamed up to batter down her barrier, it would result in twenty very frustrated gods.

* Fell was a canon NPC in [[{{Planescape}} the source material]], so that might explain why he's so well developed.

The TabletopGame/{{Planescape}} setting already features a massive conflict between [[OrderVersusChaos Law and Chaos]] (The Blood War), and The Nameless One happens to be a tragic, [[{{Badass}} extremely powerful individual]] condemned to fight that war for eternity (Or at least, until the Planes die off). The ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' multiverse could very well be a part of ''the'' Multiverse.

* SilentHill: Dahlia Gillespie, evil, demonic witch extraordinaire. Dahlia is probably only just becoming one of Ravel's avatars, and the first hint is her looking ancient while really being only 40.
* Dishonored: Granny Rags, the blind old witch who lives in her apartment, with magic powers and [[spoiler:control over the plague rats]].

The incarnation that discovered a means by which the Nameless One's memory could be preserved between deaths was DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and hit on the critical importance of the player in determining the outcome of tabletop and video games. He arranged it so that Planescape: Torment would be created in our world, but by the time it was released he had died a few more times, leaving us with the playable incarnation. The reason the memory endures is because the player is there to share the memory. However, the incarnation wasn't the only DangerouslyGenreSavvy character wandering around; anyone capable of outright killing the Nameless One has, through madness or transcendancy, mastered the blackest art: that of the Game Over.

[[WMG: ''Planescape: Torment'' is a sequel of ''BaldursGate'']]

* Alternatively, going by 4e ''TabletopGame/PointsOfLight'' story, The Nameless One is the person who originally made contact with the Obryith lords; he was a follower of Tharizdun and established a link between his god and the original demons, which lead to the shard of evil being forced into the universe, lead to Tharizdun going mad, lead to the creation of the Abyss itself, the primeval war between law and chaos, and eventually the Blood War and now the Abyssal Plague.