History WMG / PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies

[[WMG: Athena Cykes is [[SuperMarioRPG Geno]]]]

* Actually an Android...[[spoiler: Built for the sole purpose of integrating the emotion-reading technology into a form that could be used in court expressly for the purpose of using the Mood Matrix to bring down the Phantom. Essentially the ultimate product of the emotion research put into Ponco and Clonco. It'd explain her sudden spout of knowledge into psychology and law in such a short space of time with no contacts to speak of. Government benefactors shipped her off after her co-creator (Metis) was murdered where she was refitted and reprogrammed with knowledge and rewired to suppress the trauma which had shocked her 'core'. This explains how she turns over a brand new leaf personality wise considering how shy and reclusive she was pre-trauma. Also explains how she is strong enough to fling a guard effortlessly through the air and how widget can READ HER MIND (biological to technological mind reading in a small device is nonsense, much more plausible for there to be a wireless signal between her and widget). Aura was utterly furious the Government pulled her 'product' away and misdirected this aggression towards Athena when she met her again seeing her as 'her' property but living her own life (she doesn't have a high opinion of robots). Widget was clearly designed to serve as a communication tool before Athena could properly speak as it could convey thoughts and emotions she struggled with. Athena thinks the robotic operating table is a one-shot fix-all for people? IT WOULD BE FOR HER IF SHE WAS AN ANDROID.]]

[[WMG: Bobby Fulbright will suddenly reappear in a future case through Spirit Channeling.]]
And he will have no idea he's supposed to be dead, as he has been being channeled ever since he died, died before he could realize he was dying, and has never ran into the phantom personally. The Spirit medium would probably be a new character.

Apollo... is interesting during these cases. Not only does he manage to fool Athena's emotion-reading (she never noticed before he lost control of his emotions that he was suspicious of her), but his perception is so sensitive he has to try and handicap himself. This, and also, he takes not Edgeworth's logic, but ''Franziska's'' regarding the "truth" (as she was the only person out of her, Gumshoe, and Edgeworth to concede that Kay could have been the culprit of Case I2-4). It's possible Apollo's perception, at least, was "stronger" because he was so distraught over Clay's death, rather than his powers actually being stronger. A literal sensitivity to match his emotional one (and Apollo is a very emotional person). This is why he thought to control his emotions (again, this is just conjecture based on Athena's reaction to Apollo's distraught outburst before leaving the Agency; she notes his suspicion like it's new to his voice), but it ended up making everything worse for him.

The person he's addressing is only credited as "Payne", right? Well, it seems the wimpy, ineffectual prosecutor we all know has some HiddenDepths...

* To elaborate, she probably has plain old asthma, which (as this asthmatic troper can attest) can definitely be aggravated by both smog and emotional distress. She even uses her sunflower as an impromptu inhaler.

** [[spoiler:While the idea with Kirstoph's is jossed, black Psyche-Locks DO return, and we DO get to crack them.]]

* This also ties in nicely with the usual [[FourIsDeath beliefs regarding that number.]]

*** I'm gonna officially Joss this 'un even though most of us know that by now for the sake of pointing out that Pearl actually doesn't seem to think Phoenix and Maya are a thing anymore.

Not only was this courtroom the one bombed, but the only two people known to have died in a courtroom died ''in this courtroom''; Terry Fawles, who committed suicide in Case 3-4 and Candice Arme who was murdered. Likewise, Apollo was attacked and could very well have died if he wasn't a main character in this courtroom. If it is indeed cursed, it's possible that every trial we know of that had a bad, bad ending (the IS-7 Incident, the DL-6 and the UR-1 Incidents, as well as Maggey's initial trial for the murder of Glen Elg in Case 3-3 and Case 3-4) were all held in this courtroom. Weirdly, it's also the only courtroom used in this game except for the very first trial (when it was obviously not being used because it was recently made into rubble).

Or to be more specific, a Tok'ra. This idea mostly stems from the fact that several times in the game Blackquill's eyes do the creepy glowy thing like the Goa'uld. If he is, then he'd be a Tok'ra because despite that he seems a bit nasty at times, he's not evil. Furthermore, if Simon is a Tok'ra then the phantom is actually one of those hunters out to kill Blackquill (similar to Jolinar) and the whole thing with Blackquill being in jail is a setup by the SGC in order to keep him safe. Aura, being Simon's sister, knows that he's a Tok'ra but not about the protective guilty verdict. By the time of Dual Destinies, Edgeworth knows about the phantom's existence because of the SGC, but doesn't know the details about the Goa'uld and Stargate. The setup trial for Blackquill was a last-ditch attempt to get the phantom out of hiding, with Blackquill's 'execution' date actually being the date to send him through the Stargate to another world for safety. The UR-1 incident was covered up by the SGC as to not reveal the Goa'uld to the general public, and the rushed trial was fully intentional.

[[WMG: Simon Blackquill is a [[StargateSG-1 Goa'uld]] ]]

[[WMG: Simon Blackquill is a [StargateSG-1 Goa'uld] ]]

He'd probably be their maternal grandfather, hence why they don't have the same surname. Both have associations with Japanese culture, as Kudo is a kimono embroiderer and dresses in Japanese attire, where Simon reveres the way of the samurai and dresses with Japanese elements in his attire, and both have association with birds (albeit Kudo clearly hates them and Simon does not but irony is funny). Kudo could have embroidered Blackquill's coat. I mean the ages somewhat fit (Kudo is about 68 when Blackquill would have been 19, as he's the same age as Maya, though Aura does create a small problem in that she's 9 years older than Simon, meaning that Kudo was 40 when she was born, meaning that Kudo and Mama Blackquill were around 20 when they each became parents). Though it IS a little hard to picture Aura and Simon throwing him a birthday party, especially being 19 and 28 at the time, the grandkids Kudo mentions could not be Aura and Simon, but their cousins (if indeed they have any), especially since Kudo calls his grandson a messy eater. Though according to the robots and Athena, Aura and Simon used to be far, far more pleasant people, so maybe it's not so hard to imagine they had something to do with it. Oh, and ''hilarious'', since he's a bird-hater, a tech-hater, and a DirtyOldMan.

He'd probably be their maternal grandfather, hence why they don't have the same surname. Both have associations with Japanese culture, as Kudo is a kimono embroiderer and dresses in Japanese attire, where Simon reveres the way of the samurai and dresses with Japanese elements in his attire, and both have association with birds (albeit Kudo clearly hates them and Simon does not but irony is funny). I mean the ages somewhat fit (Kudo is about 68 when Blackquill would have been 19, as he's the same age as Maya, though Aura does create a small problem in that she's 9 years older than Simon, meaning that Kudo was 40 when she was born, meaning that Kudo and Mama Blackquill were around 20 when they each became parents). Though it IS a little hard to picture Aura and Simon throwing him a birthday party, especially being 19 and 28 at the time, the grandkids Kudo mentions could not be Aura and Simon, but their cousins (if indeed they have any). Though according to the robots and Athena, Aura and Simon used to be far, far more pleasant people, so maybe it's not so hard to imagine. Oh, and ''hilarious'', since he's both a bird-hater, a tech-hater, and a DirtyOldMan.

He'd probably be their maternal grandfather, hence why they don't have the same surname. Both have associations with Japanese culture, as Kudo is a kimono embroiderer and dresses in Japanese attire, where Simon reveres the way of the samurai and dresses with Japanese elements in his attire, and both have association with birds (albeit Kudo clearly hates them and Simon does not but irony is funny). I mean the ages somewhat fit (Kudo is about 68 when Blackquill would have been 19, as he's the same age as Maya, though Aura does create a small problem in that she's 9 years older than Simon, meaning that Kudo was 40 when she was born, meaning that Kudo and Mama Blackquill were around 20 when they each became parents). Though it IS a little hard to picture Aura and Simon throwing him a birthday party, especially being 19 and 28 at the time, the grandkids Kudo mentions could not be Aura and Simon, but their cousins (if indeed they have any). Though according to the robots and Athena, Aura and Simon used to be far, far more pleasant people, so maybe it's not so hard to imagine.

[[spoiler:Think about it they're both spies who are [[MasterOfDisguise masters of disguise]] who can [[LatexPerfection imitate people perfectly]]. Octopus has been known to get so into his roles that he sometimes needs to undergo hypnotherapy to [[ShapeShifterIdentityCrisis recall his true identity.]] Clearly Octopus must have [[FakingTheDead faked his death at the hands of FOXDIE]] and gone to work for some other nation. Without access to FOXHOUND's resources he couldn't do the hypnotherapy and eventually forgot who he was entirely.]]

Would explain why Pearl doesn't seem to mind Phoenix talking with other women when Maya's not around and why it seems she's dropped the Phoenix-is-Maya's-special-someone thing. Maya has either gotten married or engaged.

* Maybe his Chords aren't his only part of his body made of Steel? :P

*** Well, it's never shown but it's implied that [[spoiler: Eve and Espella]] from VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney could have had them. There are no Psyche-Locks in that game at all, so it's impossible to tell, but their trauma and reaction to the traumatic event lines up exactly with what happened to Athena and her locks. Granted, they're not an ideal example because I can't prove they had the same Locks.

As in, he'll have permanent scarring and probably experience a lot of pain in his arms and shoulders for the rest of his life, due to damaged nerves. There's no way he didn't sustain nerve damage by blocking a huge piece of debris from crushing Juniper with only his arms. He's lucky he didn't ''break'' anything. Unless he's actually SpiderMan. Which would explain a lot.