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* Confirmed! ...After a fashion. Luffy didn't like the idea, but they pledged themselves to him anyway.
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* Confirmed! ...After a fashion. Luffy didn't like the idea, but they pledged themselves to him anyway.anyway.
[[WMG: Bepo [[spoiler: and Pekoms]] are Minkmen, or "Fur People"]]
They both are [[TalkingAnimal Talking Animals]] with dot eyes and a similar body structure (such as their small feet). Minkmen are mentioned on Duval's list of slave prices, but have not been shown yet.
* Confirmed with the introduction of the Minkmen after chapter 800
[[WMG: Bepo [[spoiler: and Pekoms]] are Minkmen, or "Fur People"]]
They both are [[TalkingAnimal Talking Animals]] with dot eyes and a similar body structure (such as their small feet). Minkmen are mentioned on Duval's list of slave prices, but have not been shown yet.
* Confirmed with the introduction of the Minkmen after chapter 800
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* Well, he's not "assimilating" the slime from the environment the way Pica assimilates stone; he's producing it from his body/skin the same way Magellan's Paramecia produces poison. Still, that aside, this is basically Confirmed; his powers do indeed work exactly like that.
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* Well, he's not "assimilating" the slime from the environment the way Pica assimilates stone; he's producing it from his body/skin the same way Magellan's Paramecia produces poison. Still, that aside, this is basically Confirmed; his powers do indeed work exactly like that.that.
[[WMG: There will be a pirate with a 1,000,000,000 Beri bounty]]
Chintao seems to be the reigning champion with over 500,000,000. Maybe Kaido had the bounty before he became an Emperor, given his past.
* I thought it's only Shichibukai who have their bounties taken away, not Emperors?
** Theoretically (assuming Emperors had bounties on their heads to begin with), Emperors might have it taken away for two reasons: 1) a sort of VetinariJobSecurity in light of the potential disruption caused by the capture/death of an Emperor (because the Five Elder Stars are probably pragmatic enough to realize that the Four Emperors effectively control the seas, and any disruption to that control would eventually cause trouble for the World Government), or 2) because going after someone powerful enough to become an Emperor is going to an awful lot of trouble to get oneself killed, and keeping the bounty open would amount to tacit endorsement of said reckless endangerment.
* The Emperors are only really strong pirates. It's not a government rank or something like the Seven Warlords, it's just a title to recognise the four strongest pirates of the New World. Why would the Whitebeard Pirates be wanted criminals if they were in an alliance with the Government like the Warlords? Hell, why would anybody ever bother to turn them in in the first place if they don't actually have bountry rewards? (On that note, Ace had a higher bounty than Chinjao)
* Confirmed. Kaido's right hand man Jack has a 1,000,000,000 Beri bounty. Odds are the Emperors are even higher. As well as Dragon; being the "World's Most Wanted Man" surely means he has the highest bounty.
[[WMG: The Straw Hat Pirates will soon expand themselves into a fleet]]
The days of single new crew members joining have pretty much ended. As powerful one-man armies as they could be, challenging the New World, fighting the Emperors, becoming the Pirate King, requires something far more - and Luffy has already started up on it, even if he probably doesn't realize it himself. His power, disposition, Haki, and kindness and manner of helping people, are ripe for making entire nations ally with him and follow under his flag: the Fishman Island is by now almost entirely under him, tearing the place from Big Mom a mere formality at this point; Chinjao has placed the navy of his grandsons under Luffy's command, Bartolomeo will almost certainly swear allegiance, Law has a decently good chance of doing so, and depending how things go, the nation of Dressrosa very well might too. And considering how Luffy [[BerserkButton feels]] about the possibility of losing friends, he's likely to become the new Whitebeard of the seas.
* I've been considering this myself for a while, look at the War of the strongest, even the strongest men in the world brought multiple ships into the conflict, and with how the overall myth arcs of the story have been taking place Luffy is going to need an army, since both Blackbeard and the world government have been built up as big bads, Blackbeard as Luffy's personal and the world government as a more evil threat, not trying to downplay Blackbeard here, just noting that Blackbeard as a villain has had two albeit major acts, the world government has had much more screentime, an ultimately the new fleet admiral was the one to kill Ace. This means that we have 3 major factions Luffy, Blackbeard, and the World Government that are possible contenders for the final victor. Obviously this will cause the push for Raftel to become a 3 way war, which provides an awesome moment, where the two guys from the east blue, whose names I do not recall at the moment show up having followed the exact path the Straw Hats took through the series and gathered up all the people Luffy and Co. helped along the way to give Luffy his fleet to match the other two. This incidentally also means that all 3 ancient weapons are used in the final battle.
* Chapter 799 lends heavy support to this theory, and the following one is very likely to either confirm or debunk it.
* Confirmed! ...After a fashion. Luffy didn't like the idea, but they pledged themselves to him anyway.
[[WMG: There will be a pirate with a 1,000,000,000 Beri bounty]]
Chintao seems to be the reigning champion with over 500,000,000. Maybe Kaido had the bounty before he became an Emperor, given his past.
* I thought it's only Shichibukai who have their bounties taken away, not Emperors?
** Theoretically (assuming Emperors had bounties on their heads to begin with), Emperors might have it taken away for two reasons: 1) a sort of VetinariJobSecurity in light of the potential disruption caused by the capture/death of an Emperor (because the Five Elder Stars are probably pragmatic enough to realize that the Four Emperors effectively control the seas, and any disruption to that control would eventually cause trouble for the World Government), or 2) because going after someone powerful enough to become an Emperor is going to an awful lot of trouble to get oneself killed, and keeping the bounty open would amount to tacit endorsement of said reckless endangerment.
* The Emperors are only really strong pirates. It's not a government rank or something like the Seven Warlords, it's just a title to recognise the four strongest pirates of the New World. Why would the Whitebeard Pirates be wanted criminals if they were in an alliance with the Government like the Warlords? Hell, why would anybody ever bother to turn them in in the first place if they don't actually have bountry rewards? (On that note, Ace had a higher bounty than Chinjao)
* Confirmed. Kaido's right hand man Jack has a 1,000,000,000 Beri bounty. Odds are the Emperors are even higher. As well as Dragon; being the "World's Most Wanted Man" surely means he has the highest bounty.
[[WMG: The Straw Hat Pirates will soon expand themselves into a fleet]]
The days of single new crew members joining have pretty much ended. As powerful one-man armies as they could be, challenging the New World, fighting the Emperors, becoming the Pirate King, requires something far more - and Luffy has already started up on it, even if he probably doesn't realize it himself. His power, disposition, Haki, and kindness and manner of helping people, are ripe for making entire nations ally with him and follow under his flag: the Fishman Island is by now almost entirely under him, tearing the place from Big Mom a mere formality at this point; Chinjao has placed the navy of his grandsons under Luffy's command, Bartolomeo will almost certainly swear allegiance, Law has a decently good chance of doing so, and depending how things go, the nation of Dressrosa very well might too. And considering how Luffy [[BerserkButton feels]] about the possibility of losing friends, he's likely to become the new Whitebeard of the seas.
* I've been considering this myself for a while, look at the War of the strongest, even the strongest men in the world brought multiple ships into the conflict, and with how the overall myth arcs of the story have been taking place Luffy is going to need an army, since both Blackbeard and the world government have been built up as big bads, Blackbeard as Luffy's personal and the world government as a more evil threat, not trying to downplay Blackbeard here, just noting that Blackbeard as a villain has had two albeit major acts, the world government has had much more screentime, an ultimately the new fleet admiral was the one to kill Ace. This means that we have 3 major factions Luffy, Blackbeard, and the World Government that are possible contenders for the final victor. Obviously this will cause the push for Raftel to become a 3 way war, which provides an awesome moment, where the two guys from the east blue, whose names I do not recall at the moment show up having followed the exact path the Straw Hats took through the series and gathered up all the people Luffy and Co. helped along the way to give Luffy his fleet to match the other two. This incidentally also means that all 3 ancient weapons are used in the final battle.
* Chapter 799 lends heavy support to this theory, and the following one is very likely to either confirm or debunk it.
* Confirmed! ...After a fashion. Luffy didn't like the idea, but they pledged themselves to him anyway.
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* Well, he's not "assimilating" the Slime like slime from the environment the way Pica assimilates stone, stone; he's producing it from his body/skin the same way Magellan's Paramecia produces poison. Still, that aside, this is basically Confirmed; his powers do indeed work exactly like that.
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** [[spoiler: Or not! Now that we know what his note said, it's clear Luffy (who hadn't heard the whole story at that point) only ''thought'' he hadn't been captured due to how Sanji worded his letter. He wasn't beaten or anything, but it turns out he is a mostly unwilling captive in Capone Bege's "castle". Confirmed.]]
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** [[spoiler: Or not! Now that we know what his note said, it's clear Luffy (who hadn't heard the whole story at that point) only ''thought'' he hadn't been captured due to how Sanji worded his letter. He wasn't beaten or anything, but it turns out he is a mostly unwilling captive in Capone Bege's "castle". Confirmed.]]]]
[[WMG: Trebol is a slime-assimilation man]]
Because it is revealed that his fruit power is not Logia.
Much like Pica who is a stone-assimilation man, Trebol assimilates with sticky, explosive mucus - lots of it - to give him a "thicker" body. How he can evade attacks is explained not just by being so thin, but also actively "moving" inside the mucus. We also see how his mucus detaches from him after he got badly wounded by Law.
This made me come up with a theory: for element-assimilation fruits, their element are technically not part of their bodies; just that the fruit's users move the element along with their bodies. By contrast, logia's elemental bodies ''are'' part of their bodies; striking them is as good as striking their bodies even though they won't be hurt - unless if the attacker is using Armament Haki. That is why Monet made a point of dodging her ''entire'' snow body when Tashigi is trying to attack her with Haki.
Seriously, this element-assimilation power could make a common subtype of Paramecia on their own.
* Well, he's not "assimilating" the Slime like Pica assimilates stone, he's producing it the same way Magellan's Paramecia produces poison. Still, this is basically Confirmed; his powers do indeed work exactly like that.
[[WMG: Trebol is a slime-assimilation man]]
Because it is revealed that his fruit power is not Logia.
Much like Pica who is a stone-assimilation man, Trebol assimilates with sticky, explosive mucus - lots of it - to give him a "thicker" body. How he can evade attacks is explained not just by being so thin, but also actively "moving" inside the mucus. We also see how his mucus detaches from him after he got badly wounded by Law.
This made me come up with a theory: for element-assimilation fruits, their element are technically not part of their bodies; just that the fruit's users move the element along with their bodies. By contrast, logia's elemental bodies ''are'' part of their bodies; striking them is as good as striking their bodies even though they won't be hurt - unless if the attacker is using Armament Haki. That is why Monet made a point of dodging her ''entire'' snow body when Tashigi is trying to attack her with Haki.
Seriously, this element-assimilation power could make a common subtype of Paramecia on their own.
* Well, he's not "assimilating" the Slime like Pica assimilates stone, he's producing it the same way Magellan's Paramecia produces poison. Still, this is basically Confirmed; his powers do indeed work exactly like that.
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* Whoa, WallOfText. Keep it shorter for us in the future, ok? But yes! You're right. Some people's Haki can overwhelm others' due to their stronger spirit and mastery of the techniques, especially Armament Haki. However, note that there's probably plenty of people with strong enough Haki to fight Akainu, and word's out on whether or not your Haki can weaken over time.
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* Whoa, WallOfText. Keep it shorter for us in the future, ok? But yes! You're right. Some people's Haki can overwhelm others' due to their stronger spirit and mastery of the techniques, especially Armament Haki. However, note that there's probably plenty of people with strong enough Haki to fight Akainu, and word's out on whether or not your Haki can weaken over time.time.
[[WMG: Sanji's been captured by someone]]
He's not dead, but being held captive somewhere.
* [[spoiler: Jossed. It's not known what's happened to him yet, but it is explicitly said by Luffy that he hasn't been captured]].
**[[spoiler: Or not! Now that we know what his note said, it's clear Luffy (who hadn't heard the whole story at that point) only ''thought'' he hadn't been captured due to how Sanji worded his letter. He wasn't beaten or anything, but it turns out he is a mostly unwilling captive in Capone Bege's "castle". Confirmed.]]
[[WMG: Sanji's been captured by someone]]
He's not dead, but being held captive somewhere.
* [[spoiler: Jossed. It's not known what's happened to him yet, but it is explicitly said by Luffy that he hasn't been captured]].
**[[spoiler: Or not! Now that we know what his note said, it's clear Luffy (who hadn't heard the whole story at that point) only ''thought'' he hadn't been captured due to how Sanji worded his letter. He wasn't beaten or anything, but it turns out he is a mostly unwilling captive in Capone Bege's "castle". Confirmed.]]
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* Whoa, WallOfText. Keep it shorter for us in the future, ok? But yes! You're right. Some people's Haki can overwhelm others' due to their stronger spirit and mastery of the techniques, especially Armament Haki. However, note that there's probably plenty of people with strong enough Haki to fight Akainu.
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* Whoa, WallOfText. Keep it shorter for us in the future, ok? But yes! You're right. Some people's Haki can overwhelm others' due to their stronger spirit and mastery of the techniques, especially Armament Haki. However, note that there's probably plenty of people with strong enough Haki to fight Akainu.Akainu, and word's out on whether or not your Haki can weaken over time.
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* Seeing as what his crew did to Zou was presumably with his permission, along with the foul character of the people he employs, this is basically Confirmed.
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* Seeing as what his crew did to Zou was presumably with his permission, along with the foul character of the people he employs, this is basically Confirmed.Confirmed.
[[WMG: The Straw Hat Pirates will soon expand themselves into a fleet]]
The days of single new crew members joining have pretty much ended. As powerful one-man armies as they could be, challenging the New World, fighting the Emperors, becoming the Pirate King, requires something far more - and Luffy has already started up on it, even if he probably doesn't realize it himself. His power, disposition, Haki, and kindness and manner of helping people, are ripe for making entire nations ally with him and follow under his flag: the Fishman Island is by now almost entirely under him, tearing the place from Big Mom a mere formality at this point; Chinjao has placed the navy of his grandsons under Luffy's command, Bartolomeo will almost certainly swear allegiance, Law has a decently good chance of doing so, and depending how things go, the nation of Dressrosa very well might too. And considering how Luffy [[BerserkButton feels]] about the possibility of losing friends, he's likely to become the new Whitebeard of the seas.
* I've been considering this myself for a while, look at the War of the strongest, even the strongest men in the world brought multiple ships into the conflict, and with how the overall myth arcs of the story have been taking place Luffy is going to need an army, since both Blackbeard and the world government have been built up as big bads, Blackbeard as Luffy's personal and the world government as a more evil threat, not trying to downplay Blackbeard here, just noting that Blackbeard as a villain has had two albeit major acts, the world government has had much more screentime, an ultimately the new fleet admiral was the one to kill Ace. This means that we have 3 major factions Luffy, Blackbeard, and the World Government that are possible contenders for the final victor. Obviously this will cause the push for Raftel to become a 3 way war, which provides an awesome moment, where the two guys from the east blue, whose names I do not recall at the moment show up having followed the exact path the Straw Hats took through the series and gathered up all the people Luffy and Co. helped along the way to give Luffy his fleet to match the other two. This incidentally also means that all 3 ancient weapons are used in the final battle.
* Chapter 799 lends heavy support to this theory, and the following one is very likely to either confirm or debunk it.
* Confirmed! ...After a fashion. Luffy didn't like the idea, but they pledged themselves to him anyway.
[[WMG: Haki isn't all equal, and it's potency can change]]
Not even speaking about the three different colors, there's a variety of power within the same variety of Haki. That's how Vergo was able to be defeated by Law and Akainu could Logia-through Marco's kicks. Even though Vergo and Marco have trained Haki, their ambition is less than that of Law and Akainu, respectively. It's not just the increased abundance of Busoshaku Haki users in the New World that makes Logia's less than invincible, it's the fact that being Logia's makes them complacent and decreases their ambition and makes them vulnerable to people who have stronger Haki than their's (if they have it at all). Despite his many flaws, Akainu has incredible conviction and holds a worldview so different and alien to the madcap insanity of the One Piece world that he has greater ambition than Marco. Also, both men whose Haki was overwhelmed were subordinates, Marco to Whitebeard and Vergo to Doflamingo. Somebody content with working for another obviously possesses less Haki than somebody who works for themselves (and Akainu's crusade has shaped how the Navy works, not vice versa). That's how Whitebeard was able to hurt him where Marco wasn't, Whitebeard is at the top of the Haki ladder. That's also how Akainu was able to beat Aokiji, Akainu's Haki was stronger. But on the some corollary once you finally achieve your ambition your Haki rapidly disappears (hence why Mihawk can't hurt Buggy, he's already the best, there's nothing left for him to do). Gold Roger didn't just quit because he was sick, he turned himself in because he lost his Haki after he became Pirate King, but Whitebeard, whose goals weren't reachable (being a good parent is a job that never ends) was able to keep his Haki to the very end. What does this mean? Now that Akainu has become Fleet Admiral, his Haki has increased even more so, making the only people who could even think about hurting him Luffy and Shanks.
* Whoa, WallOfText. Keep it shorter for us in the future, ok? But yes! You're right. Some people's Haki can overwhelm others' due to their stronger spirit and mastery of the techniques, especially Armament Haki. However, note that there's probably plenty of people with strong enough Haki to fight Akainu.
[[WMG: The Straw Hat Pirates will soon expand themselves into a fleet]]
The days of single new crew members joining have pretty much ended. As powerful one-man armies as they could be, challenging the New World, fighting the Emperors, becoming the Pirate King, requires something far more - and Luffy has already started up on it, even if he probably doesn't realize it himself. His power, disposition, Haki, and kindness and manner of helping people, are ripe for making entire nations ally with him and follow under his flag: the Fishman Island is by now almost entirely under him, tearing the place from Big Mom a mere formality at this point; Chinjao has placed the navy of his grandsons under Luffy's command, Bartolomeo will almost certainly swear allegiance, Law has a decently good chance of doing so, and depending how things go, the nation of Dressrosa very well might too. And considering how Luffy [[BerserkButton feels]] about the possibility of losing friends, he's likely to become the new Whitebeard of the seas.
* I've been considering this myself for a while, look at the War of the strongest, even the strongest men in the world brought multiple ships into the conflict, and with how the overall myth arcs of the story have been taking place Luffy is going to need an army, since both Blackbeard and the world government have been built up as big bads, Blackbeard as Luffy's personal and the world government as a more evil threat, not trying to downplay Blackbeard here, just noting that Blackbeard as a villain has had two albeit major acts, the world government has had much more screentime, an ultimately the new fleet admiral was the one to kill Ace. This means that we have 3 major factions Luffy, Blackbeard, and the World Government that are possible contenders for the final victor. Obviously this will cause the push for Raftel to become a 3 way war, which provides an awesome moment, where the two guys from the east blue, whose names I do not recall at the moment show up having followed the exact path the Straw Hats took through the series and gathered up all the people Luffy and Co. helped along the way to give Luffy his fleet to match the other two. This incidentally also means that all 3 ancient weapons are used in the final battle.
* Chapter 799 lends heavy support to this theory, and the following one is very likely to either confirm or debunk it.
* Confirmed! ...After a fashion. Luffy didn't like the idea, but they pledged themselves to him anyway.
[[WMG: Haki isn't all equal, and it's potency can change]]
Not even speaking about the three different colors, there's a variety of power within the same variety of Haki. That's how Vergo was able to be defeated by Law and Akainu could Logia-through Marco's kicks. Even though Vergo and Marco have trained Haki, their ambition is less than that of Law and Akainu, respectively. It's not just the increased abundance of Busoshaku Haki users in the New World that makes Logia's less than invincible, it's the fact that being Logia's makes them complacent and decreases their ambition and makes them vulnerable to people who have stronger Haki than their's (if they have it at all). Despite his many flaws, Akainu has incredible conviction and holds a worldview so different and alien to the madcap insanity of the One Piece world that he has greater ambition than Marco. Also, both men whose Haki was overwhelmed were subordinates, Marco to Whitebeard and Vergo to Doflamingo. Somebody content with working for another obviously possesses less Haki than somebody who works for themselves (and Akainu's crusade has shaped how the Navy works, not vice versa). That's how Whitebeard was able to hurt him where Marco wasn't, Whitebeard is at the top of the Haki ladder. That's also how Akainu was able to beat Aokiji, Akainu's Haki was stronger. But on the some corollary once you finally achieve your ambition your Haki rapidly disappears (hence why Mihawk can't hurt Buggy, he's already the best, there's nothing left for him to do). Gold Roger didn't just quit because he was sick, he turned himself in because he lost his Haki after he became Pirate King, but Whitebeard, whose goals weren't reachable (being a good parent is a job that never ends) was able to keep his Haki to the very end. What does this mean? Now that Akainu has become Fleet Admiral, his Haki has increased even more so, making the only people who could even think about hurting him Luffy and Shanks.
* Whoa, WallOfText. Keep it shorter for us in the future, ok? But yes! You're right. Some people's Haki can overwhelm others' due to their stronger spirit and mastery of the techniques, especially Armament Haki. However, note that there's probably plenty of people with strong enough Haki to fight Akainu.
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[[WMG: Luffy's strongest attack will be a tribute to Ace.]]
Since both Luffy and Ace have punches as a signature technique, I could imagine Luffy using Gear Second (and possibly Gear Third), and using his Haki, somehow make flames coming from his fist, whether real or an illusion (Like Zoro's Asura). It would go something like "Gomu Gomu no Hiken". He'll probably use it in his final fight.
* Maybe he could spin his arm("winding up") a la Sanji's Diable Jambe for that effect. I'd mark out for "Gum-Gum Fire Fist".
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Red Hawk, anyone? Albeit he unveils it in a fight that's far from his last one.]]
** This is close enough for me! I'm counting it as my first confirmed WMG ever!
*** Woah, not so fast. Remember [[spoiler: Gear 4]]? Yeah... I'm calling this {{Jossed}} now.
Since both Luffy and Ace have punches as a signature technique, I could imagine Luffy using Gear Second (and possibly Gear Third), and using his Haki, somehow make flames coming from his fist, whether real or an illusion (Like Zoro's Asura). It would go something like "Gomu Gomu no Hiken". He'll probably use it in his final fight.
* Maybe he could spin his arm("winding up") a la Sanji's Diable Jambe for that effect. I'd mark out for "Gum-Gum Fire Fist".
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Red Hawk, anyone? Albeit he unveils it in a fight that's far from his last one.]]
** This is close enough for me! I'm counting it as my first confirmed WMG ever!
*** Woah, not so fast. Remember [[spoiler: Gear 4]]? Yeah... I'm calling this {{Jossed}} now.
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** Yes, but shouldn't this be in Jossed? Or at least left alone before getting in Confirmed? It's so ''very'' close, but Big Mom doesn't appear to be a Mink, so this Pudding girl who's related to her is probably not a Mink. Also, he's not married yet.
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** Yes, but shouldn't this be in Jossed? Or at least left alone before getting in Confirmed? It's Don't get me wrong, it really is so ''very'' close, but Big Mom doesn't appear to be a Mink, so this Pudding Purin girl who's related to her is probably not a Mink.Mink either. Also, he's not married yet.
[[WMG: Kaido will be a total villain]]
Given what he did to Moriah, I'd say it's a safe bet.
* Judging by his intro, you're probably one more scene off from getting this moved to confirmed.
* Seeing as what his crew did to Zou was presumably with his permission, along with the foul character of the people he employs, this is basically Confirmed.
[[WMG: Kaido will be a total villain]]
Given what he did to Moriah, I'd say it's a safe bet.
* Judging by his intro, you're probably one more scene off from getting this moved to confirmed.
* Seeing as what his crew did to Zou was presumably with his permission, along with the foul character of the people he employs, this is basically Confirmed.
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** Yes, but shouldn't this be in Jossed? Or at least left alone before getting in Confirmed? It's so ''very'' close, but Big Mom doesn't appear to be a Mink, so this Pudding girl who's related to her is probably not a Mink. Also, he's not married yet.
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[[WMG: Sanji...is married to a Mink.]]
It fits with Sanji's character, doesn't involve death or capture, and he can easily take his wife with him when he leaves.
* Forced into an arranged marriage engagement?
** It's confirmed in 812 that Sanji's seems to be forced into an arranged marriage.
It fits with Sanji's character, doesn't involve death or capture, and he can easily take his wife with him when he leaves.
* Forced into an arranged marriage engagement?
** It's confirmed in 812 that Sanji's seems to be forced into an arranged marriage.
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[[WMG: We'll see Sengoku acting as a grandfather to Law.]]
Bonus point if he did something like Garp did in Water Seven, trying to capture the pirates but actually letting them go.
* Alternatively, he already did, when Law was a Shichibukai.
* They have a talk by the Heart chapter
[[WMG:Burgess is planning to steal Devil Fruit's powers from Sabo, Doflamingo or Law]]
All of these have pretty strong powers, and Teach may be interested in them. It also makes sense for why Burgess is heading into their direction right now and carries something on his back with an image on it which very closely resembles a devil fruit.
* Close enough, you missed a certain person: [[spoiler: Luffy]]
** Confirmed.
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[[WMG: Luffy's going to reunite Kyros back with Rebecca.]]
And he's going to reveal the truth about the two. Bonus point if he's broadcasting it to entire Dressrosa, similar to what Vivi did at the end of Arabasta arc.
** Half confirmed: He doesn't broadcast it to the whole country, but he does take Rebecca to go see him; she gives up her birthright to the throne to Viola and chooses to live with her father.
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*** Woah, not so fast. Remember [[spoiler: Gear 4]]? Yeah... I'm calling this {{Jossed}} now.
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed for joining Kaidou, jury's out on whether or not he's working with Law in any form]].form, though it's looking doubtful]].
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* [[spoiler: Update: Undeniably confirmed now, as the next chapter indeed showed him lying defeated from the attack.]]
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* [[spoiler: Update: Undeniably confirmed now, as the next chapter indeed showed him lying defeated from the attack.]]]]
[[WMG: X Drake joined Kaidou]]
X Drake attacked the island in order to gain the attention of Kaido so he could become on of his allies and gain access to his vast resources but unknown to Kaido he is really working with Law and feeding info back to him as a double agent.
*[[spoiler: Confirmed for joining Kaidou, jury's out on whether or not he's working with Law in any form]].
[[WMG: X Drake joined Kaidou]]
X Drake attacked the island in order to gain the attention of Kaido so he could become on of his allies and gain access to his vast resources but unknown to Kaido he is really working with Law and feeding info back to him as a double agent.
*[[spoiler: Confirmed for joining Kaidou, jury's out on whether or not he's working with Law in any form]].
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* [[spoiler: worse for his body also confirmed since it disabled his haki and leaves him exhausted for 10 minutes]]
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[[WMG: Doflamingo will be defeated in the June 18,2015 chapter]]
Proof in 10 steps.
1. [[spoiler: We have Trafalgar D. Water Law.]]
2. [[spoiler: Water Law might be a reference to the battle of Waterloo.]]
3. [[spoiler: The battle of Waterloo was the decisive battle between Napoleon and the seventh coalition.]]
4. [[spoiler: Then Doflamingo represents Napoleon and current alliance is the coalition.]]
5. [[spoiler: The battle of Waterloo took place on June 18, 1815.]]
6. [[spoiler: June 18 is Thursday this year.]]
7. [[spoiler: One piece comes out on thursday.]]
8. [[spoiler: Therefore Doflamingo will be defeated on the 200th anniversary of the battle of Waterloo.]]
9. [[spoiler: Oda's power is beyond our understanding.]]
10. [[spoiler: He is a magnificent bastard and I read his book.]]
* Very plausible, I root for this theory too.
* Might be the reason this arc has taken so long to begin with.
* Given even more weight given this week's (6/4/15) announcement that there will be no chapter on 6/11/15.
* [[spoiler:CONFIRMED! Or, at the very least, the chapter ended with one final, ''massive'' attack from Luffy that ''very'' much so looks like the last blow.]]
* [[spoiler: Update: Undeniably confirmed now, as the next chapter indeed showed him lying defeated from the attack.]]
[[WMG: Doflamingo will be defeated in the June 18,2015 chapter]]
Proof in 10 steps.
1. [[spoiler: We have Trafalgar D. Water Law.]]
2. [[spoiler: Water Law might be a reference to the battle of Waterloo.]]
3. [[spoiler: The battle of Waterloo was the decisive battle between Napoleon and the seventh coalition.]]
4. [[spoiler: Then Doflamingo represents Napoleon and current alliance is the coalition.]]
5. [[spoiler: The battle of Waterloo took place on June 18, 1815.]]
6. [[spoiler: June 18 is Thursday this year.]]
7. [[spoiler: One piece comes out on thursday.]]
8. [[spoiler: Therefore Doflamingo will be defeated on the 200th anniversary of the battle of Waterloo.]]
9. [[spoiler: Oda's power is beyond our understanding.]]
10. [[spoiler: He is a magnificent bastard and I read his book.]]
* Very plausible, I root for this theory too.
* Might be the reason this arc has taken so long to begin with.
* Given even more weight given this week's (6/4/15) announcement that there will be no chapter on 6/11/15.
* [[spoiler:CONFIRMED! Or, at the very least, the chapter ended with one final, ''massive'' attack from Luffy that ''very'' much so looks like the last blow.]]
* [[spoiler: Update: Undeniably confirmed now, as the next chapter indeed showed him lying defeated from the attack.]]
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** [[spoiler: Sabo has the fruit now]]
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* [[spoiler: Right on the money! ''Scarily'' right on the money, actually. It does indeed look like a combination of Gear Second and Third in both appearance and ability; and, yep, with hardening Haki stacked on top. You were right about the defensive ability too. And, again, it does look as though the pressure in his muscles activated the effects of Gear Second. Last but not least, there is indeed a homage to a howitzer shell in one of his attacks. You sure you're not Oda?]]
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* [[spoiler: Right on the money! ''Scarily'' right on the money, actually. It does indeed look like a combination of Gear Second and Third in both appearance and ability; and, yep, with hardening Haki stacked on top. You were right about the defensive ability too. And, again, it does look as though the pressure in his muscles activated the effects of Gear Second. Last but not least, there is indeed a homage to a howitzer shell in one of his attacks. You sure you're not Oda?]]Oda?]]
* [[spoiler: worse for his body also confirmed since it disabled his haki and leaves him exhausted for 10 minutes]]
* [[spoiler: worse for his body also confirmed since it disabled his haki and leaves him exhausted for 10 minutes]]
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* [[spoiler: Right on the money! ''Scarily'' right on the money, actually. It does indeed look like a combination of Gear Second and Third in both appearance and ability; and, yep, with hardening Haki stacked on top. You were right about the defensive ability too. And, again, it does look as though the pressure in his muscles activated the effects of Gear Second. You sure you're not Oda?]]
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* [[spoiler: Right on the money! ''Scarily'' right on the money, actually. It does indeed look like a combination of Gear Second and Third in both appearance and ability; and, yep, with hardening Haki stacked on top. You were right about the defensive ability too. And, again, it does look as though the pressure in his muscles activated the effects of Gear Second. Last but not least, there is indeed a homage to a howitzer shell in one of his attacks. You sure you're not Oda?]]
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* Of course. You just follow where it moves, as the Straw Hats did. This was one of the first things explained about them, actually.
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* Of course. You just follow where it moves, as the Straw Hats did. This was one of the first things explained about them, actually.actually.
[[WMG: Gear Fourth is an advanced hybrid of Gear Second and Gear Third.]]
Just an idea that came up. Luffy can't beat Doflamingo with Gear Second because while he's fast enough to hit, he doesn't hit hard enough. He can't beat Doflamingo with Gear Third because while he'd hit hard enough to hurt Doflamingo, he has trouble hitting with it because it's relatively slow. Gear Fourth would solve this problem by hyper-compressing the air used in Gear Third, resulting in his limbs becoming even more hard and dense than in Gear Third, while the sheer amount of pressure that the air would exert on his body might be enough to pump Gear Second on its own.
The smaller surface area compared to Gear Third also means that between the speed of Gear Second and the impact mass of Gear Third, possibly with Armaments Haki stacked on top, Luffy's attacks will be inflicting wounds akin to being shot with something ridiculous, like, say, high-velocity depleted uranium howitzer shells. Pair that kind of wounding with something like Jet Gatling? Good luck trying to recover from that, Doflamingo.
That same density and mass that would give him striking power would also help him defensively, as Doflamingo's strings would have to pierce or cut a much, much denser material, and the extra mass might help him get chucked around less as well. His limbs also wouldn't be enormous like in Gear Third, preserving a good bit of his Gear Second mobility, so he's got the best of both worlds both offensively and defensively and then some.
Of course, it's even worse for his body than standard Gear Second because the pressure involved is even higher, but Luffy doesn't care about something trivial like his lifespan, right?
It's got a little bit of a precedence in Nightmare Luffy's Gigant Jet Shell, which used both Gear Second and Gear Third at the same time, and Nightmare Luffy in general was ridiculously strong for sheer physical power. Perhaps he learned from that experience?
* [[spoiler: Right on the money! ''Scarily'' right on the money, actually. It does indeed look like a combination of Gear Second and Third in both appearance and ability; and, yep, with hardening Haki stacked on top. You were right about the defensive ability too. And, again, it does look as though the pressure in his muscles activated the effects of Gear Second. You sure you're not Oda?]]
[[WMG: Gear Fourth is an advanced hybrid of Gear Second and Gear Third.]]
Just an idea that came up. Luffy can't beat Doflamingo with Gear Second because while he's fast enough to hit, he doesn't hit hard enough. He can't beat Doflamingo with Gear Third because while he'd hit hard enough to hurt Doflamingo, he has trouble hitting with it because it's relatively slow. Gear Fourth would solve this problem by hyper-compressing the air used in Gear Third, resulting in his limbs becoming even more hard and dense than in Gear Third, while the sheer amount of pressure that the air would exert on his body might be enough to pump Gear Second on its own.
The smaller surface area compared to Gear Third also means that between the speed of Gear Second and the impact mass of Gear Third, possibly with Armaments Haki stacked on top, Luffy's attacks will be inflicting wounds akin to being shot with something ridiculous, like, say, high-velocity depleted uranium howitzer shells. Pair that kind of wounding with something like Jet Gatling? Good luck trying to recover from that, Doflamingo.
That same density and mass that would give him striking power would also help him defensively, as Doflamingo's strings would have to pierce or cut a much, much denser material, and the extra mass might help him get chucked around less as well. His limbs also wouldn't be enormous like in Gear Third, preserving a good bit of his Gear Second mobility, so he's got the best of both worlds both offensively and defensively and then some.
Of course, it's even worse for his body than standard Gear Second because the pressure involved is even higher, but Luffy doesn't care about something trivial like his lifespan, right?
It's got a little bit of a precedence in Nightmare Luffy's Gigant Jet Shell, which used both Gear Second and Gear Third at the same time, and Nightmare Luffy in general was ridiculously strong for sheer physical power. Perhaps he learned from that experience?
* [[spoiler: Right on the money! ''Scarily'' right on the money, actually. It does indeed look like a combination of Gear Second and Third in both appearance and ability; and, yep, with hardening Haki stacked on top. You were right about the defensive ability too. And, again, it does look as though the pressure in his muscles activated the effects of Gear Second. You sure you're not Oda?]]
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* Confirmed. Well, sort of. The fruit IS called the "Yomi Yomi no Mi", but the underworld powers part is spot on. Not only does it give him a second life, but it gives him the power to control the freezing cold of the underworld.
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* Confirmed. Well, sort of. The fruit IS called the "Yomi Yomi no Mi", but the underworld powers part is spot on. Not only does it give him a second life, but it gives him the power to control the freezing cold of the underworld.underworld.
[[WMG: Vivre Cards can be used to navigate]]
Don't see why not. Lola said they always point toward their partner. Maybe that's how pirates, who don't have access to the massive quantities of Eternal Poses that the government has, can still go wherever they want.
* Of course. You just follow where it moves, as the Straw Hats did. This was one of the first things explained about them, actually.
[[WMG: Vivre Cards can be used to navigate]]
Don't see why not. Lola said they always point toward their partner. Maybe that's how pirates, who don't have access to the massive quantities of Eternal Poses that the government has, can still go wherever they want.
* Of course. You just follow where it moves, as the Straw Hats did. This was one of the first things explained about them, actually.
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* The One Piece Green databook confirms that Oda originally had the idea of Brook joining the crew before Franky, but doesn't reveal why he changed it around.
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* The One Piece Green databook confirms that Oda originally had the idea of Brook joining the crew before Franky, but doesn't reveal why he changed it around.around.
[[WMG: Brook's Devil Fruit is not actually the Yomi Yomi no Mi.]]
It is actually the [[spoiler:Yomi Yomi no Mi. In Japanese, Yomi can refer to the word "revive" (yomigaeru), as many official translations have used. However, it can also mean "underworld" (yomi no kuni). So, Brook's devil fruit could have bestowed upon him the powers of the underworld (as has been shown in the latest chapters) instead of just reviving him once (which, in all honesty, was a pretty good example of BlessedWithSuck). Also gives new meaning to his praise as "Satan-sama" on Namakura Island...]]
* Confirmed. Well, sort of. The fruit IS called the "Yomi Yomi no Mi", but the underworld powers part is spot on. Not only does it give him a second life, but it gives him the power to control the freezing cold of the underworld.
[[WMG: Brook's Devil Fruit is not actually the Yomi Yomi no Mi.]]
It is actually the [[spoiler:Yomi Yomi no Mi. In Japanese, Yomi can refer to the word "revive" (yomigaeru), as many official translations have used. However, it can also mean "underworld" (yomi no kuni). So, Brook's devil fruit could have bestowed upon him the powers of the underworld (as has been shown in the latest chapters) instead of just reviving him once (which, in all honesty, was a pretty good example of BlessedWithSuck). Also gives new meaning to his praise as "Satan-sama" on Namakura Island...]]
* Confirmed. Well, sort of. The fruit IS called the "Yomi Yomi no Mi", but the underworld powers part is spot on. Not only does it give him a second life, but it gives him the power to control the freezing cold of the underworld.
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* Well, I mean, pretty much confirmed for the past 17 years. It's obvious that Sanji acts like "Mr.Prince" whenever he's not snarking or loving.
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* Well, I mean, pretty much confirmed for the past 17 years. It's obvious that Sanji acts like "Mr.Prince" whenever he's not snarking or loving.loving.
[[WMG: In the original draft, Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark were flipped]]
Thriller Bark seems a bit of an odd duck for One Piece. They go from the epic battle for Enies Lobby to what amounts to a random encounter. Sure, it's a Shichibukai, but it does nothing to further the metaplot and even the WG decides they are going to pretend it didn't happen. My theory: Originally, they would have landed in the Florian Triangle, found Brook, defeated Moriah, and run into Aokiji after instead of Kuma. Then they would have gone to Water 7 and things would have proceeded from there, except with Brook fighting Fukurou (Franky was a late addition due to Oda liking his voice actor), and Kuma's first attack would have happened during the Buster Call.
* The reason it was reversed were because Oda liked Franky's voice actor and wanted his character in sooner, he wanted to speed up the reveal of Robin's backstory, and because he realized the damage to the Going Merry was too extensive and it needed replacement sooner than he originally planned.
** Maybe. ''Or'' Oda could could have just decided to give us a quick break relieve some tension before moving on to a battle that's supposed to shake the foundations of the One Piece world.
* Alternatively, I suspect the Thriller Bark arc was originally supposed to happen only after Fishman Island. This explains why Moriah's position as a Shichibukai wasn't revoked after his defeat; he was still supposed to partake in the earlier planned Whitebeard war arc. Moriah's backstory has him as the rival of a Yonkou, suggesting he should have been encountered in the new world instead. Moriah's special zombie was going to be Oars Jr., not Oars. Also, Brook does pretty much nothing during the Shaboady arc, suggesting he wasn't planned to be there. Oda probably decided to put Thriller Bark in early because he [[FridgeLogic realised]] that he needed a [[BreatherEpisode Breather Arc]] between [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Enies Lobby]] and [[WhamEpisode Shaboady]], as well as wanting the crew to have an earlier encounter with Kuma.
* The One Piece Green databook confirms that Oda originally had the idea of Brook joining the crew before Franky, but doesn't reveal why he changed it around.
[[WMG: In the original draft, Enies Lobby and Thriller Bark were flipped]]
Thriller Bark seems a bit of an odd duck for One Piece. They go from the epic battle for Enies Lobby to what amounts to a random encounter. Sure, it's a Shichibukai, but it does nothing to further the metaplot and even the WG decides they are going to pretend it didn't happen. My theory: Originally, they would have landed in the Florian Triangle, found Brook, defeated Moriah, and run into Aokiji after instead of Kuma. Then they would have gone to Water 7 and things would have proceeded from there, except with Brook fighting Fukurou (Franky was a late addition due to Oda liking his voice actor), and Kuma's first attack would have happened during the Buster Call.
* The reason it was reversed were because Oda liked Franky's voice actor and wanted his character in sooner, he wanted to speed up the reveal of Robin's backstory, and because he realized the damage to the Going Merry was too extensive and it needed replacement sooner than he originally planned.
** Maybe. ''Or'' Oda could could have just decided to give us a quick break relieve some tension before moving on to a battle that's supposed to shake the foundations of the One Piece world.
* Alternatively, I suspect the Thriller Bark arc was originally supposed to happen only after Fishman Island. This explains why Moriah's position as a Shichibukai wasn't revoked after his defeat; he was still supposed to partake in the earlier planned Whitebeard war arc. Moriah's backstory has him as the rival of a Yonkou, suggesting he should have been encountered in the new world instead. Moriah's special zombie was going to be Oars Jr., not Oars. Also, Brook does pretty much nothing during the Shaboady arc, suggesting he wasn't planned to be there. Oda probably decided to put Thriller Bark in early because he [[FridgeLogic realised]] that he needed a [[BreatherEpisode Breather Arc]] between [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Enies Lobby]] and [[WhamEpisode Shaboady]], as well as wanting the crew to have an earlier encounter with Kuma.
* The One Piece Green databook confirms that Oda originally had the idea of Brook joining the crew before Franky, but doesn't reveal why he changed it around.
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[[WMG: 'Mr. Prince' is Sanji's real personality when he is not being distracted by a member of the fairer sex or [[VolleyingInsults Zoro]].]]
Think of what he does when he is separated from the rest of the crew. He pretends to be Mr. 3 over the den-den-mushi in order to find out more about Crocodile. He stages a rescue operation under the persona of 'Mr. Prince'. He decides to follow Robin and her captors from Water 7. He's one of the few crew members capable of being sneaky, along with Nami, Usopp and Robin. Sanji is always a badass; he just gets distracted around the crew.
* Well, I mean, pretty much confirmed for the past 17 years. It's obvious that Sanji acts like "Mr.Prince" whenever he's not snarking or loving.
Think of what he does when he is separated from the rest of the crew. He pretends to be Mr. 3 over the den-den-mushi in order to find out more about Crocodile. He stages a rescue operation under the persona of 'Mr. Prince'. He decides to follow Robin and her captors from Water 7. He's one of the few crew members capable of being sneaky, along with Nami, Usopp and Robin. Sanji is always a badass; he just gets distracted around the crew.
* Well, I mean, pretty much confirmed for the past 17 years. It's obvious that Sanji acts like "Mr.Prince" whenever he's not snarking or loving.
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* Zoro was sent to that island not to learn anything, but to recover. In his current state, any attempt to train him would likely kill him, so Kuma sent him to a mostly deserted island where no one can hurt him while he recovers. He sent Perona there too, because he didn't know what else to do with her.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
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* Zoro was sent to that island not to learn anything, but to recover. In his current state, any attempt to train him would likely kill him, under the world´s strongest swordsman and the humandrills who are capable of perfectly mimic any kind of battle style, so Kuma sent him to a mostly deserted the island where no one can hurt him while he recovers. He was sent Perona there too, because to not only had the best swordsman in the world to train him, but also the perfect training partners he didn't know what else to do with her.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.could get.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
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* Zoro was sent to that island not to learn anything, but to recover. In his current state, any attempt to train him would likely kill him, so Kuma sent him to a mostly deserted island where no one can hurt him while he recovers. He sent Perona there too, because he didn't know what else to do with her.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
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* Zoro was sent to that island not to learn anything, but to recover. In his current state, any attempt to train him would likely kill him, under the world´s strongest swordsman and the humandrills who are capable of perfectly mimic any kind of battle style, so Kuma sent him to a mostly deserted the island where no one can hurt him while he recovers. He was sent Perona there too, because to not only had the best swordsman in the world to train him, but also the perfect training partners he didn't know what else to do with her.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.could get.
** He sent Perona there cause that what she asked for. If this theory is true, he must have plans for Perona, like knowing she might aid Zoro, or another Gambit, like them forming an EnemyMine.
** Maybe Zoro trains by subjecting himself to her negative hollows and by conquering ultimate despair becomes a stronger swordsman.
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: SABO LIVES.]] ]]
[[spoiler: [[http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/93580674/1 This may well just be imagery,]] but with Oda...he wouldn't just draw Sabo like that without it being a Chekov's something.]]
* Either that, or [[spoiler:it's a page of characters who'll be dead by the end of the series. SO LUFFY'S GONNA DIE.]]
** Psssh, [[spoiler: Oda wouldn't kill his main character...would he? ...OH DEAR GOD!]]
*** I think it's the end of the people hanging out and start of a What If? line of covers like Zoro with an adult Kuina, Nami and Usopp with their Mothers, etc. Of course, Oda does love to screw with us.
*** As awesome as the above would be, this still doesn't get rid of the suspicion surrounding [[spoiler:adult!Sabo's hat-hidden face]].
**** OH ****! [[spoiler:SABO IS DOFLAMINGO! HE LOOKS LIKE HIM, AT LEAST! THAT SMILE!]]
***** ...oh god. [[FridgeHorror OH GOD!]] IF IT'S [[spoiler: [[LaserGuidedAmnesia], DOFLAMINGO WOULD MAKE PERFECT DANG SENSE!]] THAT'S WHY ODA HID HIS EYES!
*** That's not possible. [[spoiler: Sabo is way too young to be Doflamingo. Doflamingo was shown attending Roger's execution, while Sabo is about the same age as Ace, who wasn't born until after Roger's death]].
*** ...good point...but [[spoiler: if he's not Doflamingo...THEN HE'S BELLAMY!]]
**** No, he was born in the North Blue, and looks a bit older then 20.
**** Looks can be deceiving. *coughKurehacough*
**** Sweet bajeezuz! [[spoiler:Then Luffy ''almost'' killed Sabo? Again?! And then he was killed by Doflamingo! It only gets worse!]]
**** If you think about it, [[spoiler: Sabo would probably be at least SOMEWHAT traumatized by the whole near-death thing. So, over time, his resentment at his first attempt at piracy nearly being the death of him because he wanted to follow his dreams, he gave up on dreaming, dying his hair, going through a growth spurt, and changing his personality to reflect his mindset. Years later, when he saw Luffy, sure, he could've had the memories rush back to him, and he was actually trying to get Luffy to abandon his dreams in order to spare him the same fate he went through. Luffy realizes this, and who Bellamy is, and does NOT like what his friend's become, and shows him by force.]] ...wow, I'm overthinking this.
* Hey, maybe he's Kidd.
** The goggles...Hmm...but the eyes don't match.
* Meybe he's Killer.
* Jossed : WordOfGod confirmed, through one of the Databooks, that [[spoiler: Sabo]] really did die in that incident.
* The majority of the databooks are not written by Oda. That includes series and character information, which is based on what has been seen and revealed in the source material. As far as source material goes, [[spoiler: Sabo is alluded as dead.]]
* That doesn't change the fact that [[spoiler: Sabo has been confirmed dead]]. Even if the Databooks weren't written by Oda, he still oversees them as they reveal trivia facts and clarify plot points, and there's no way in hell he'd let such a huge mistake fly.
** No way in hell he'd let such a twist be revealed in extra material? Authors lie on occasion, otherwise every twist in a series would be revealed in the first interview.
* [[spoiler: Chapter 731 confirmed that he is still alive.]]
[[spoiler: [[http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/93580674/1 This may well just be imagery,]] but with Oda...he wouldn't just draw Sabo like that without it being a Chekov's something.]]
* Either that, or [[spoiler:it's a page of characters who'll be dead by the end of the series. SO LUFFY'S GONNA DIE.]]
** Psssh, [[spoiler: Oda wouldn't kill his main character...would he? ...OH DEAR GOD!]]
*** I think it's the end of the people hanging out and start of a What If? line of covers like Zoro with an adult Kuina, Nami and Usopp with their Mothers, etc. Of course, Oda does love to screw with us.
*** As awesome as the above would be, this still doesn't get rid of the suspicion surrounding [[spoiler:adult!Sabo's hat-hidden face]].
**** OH ****! [[spoiler:SABO IS DOFLAMINGO! HE LOOKS LIKE HIM, AT LEAST! THAT SMILE!]]
***** ...oh god. [[FridgeHorror OH GOD!]] IF IT'S [[spoiler: [[LaserGuidedAmnesia], DOFLAMINGO WOULD MAKE PERFECT DANG SENSE!]] THAT'S WHY ODA HID HIS EYES!
*** That's not possible. [[spoiler: Sabo is way too young to be Doflamingo. Doflamingo was shown attending Roger's execution, while Sabo is about the same age as Ace, who wasn't born until after Roger's death]].
*** ...good point...but [[spoiler: if he's not Doflamingo...THEN HE'S BELLAMY!]]
**** No, he was born in the North Blue, and looks a bit older then 20.
**** Looks can be deceiving. *coughKurehacough*
**** Sweet bajeezuz! [[spoiler:Then Luffy ''almost'' killed Sabo? Again?! And then he was killed by Doflamingo! It only gets worse!]]
**** If you think about it, [[spoiler: Sabo would probably be at least SOMEWHAT traumatized by the whole near-death thing. So, over time, his resentment at his first attempt at piracy nearly being the death of him because he wanted to follow his dreams, he gave up on dreaming, dying his hair, going through a growth spurt, and changing his personality to reflect his mindset. Years later, when he saw Luffy, sure, he could've had the memories rush back to him, and he was actually trying to get Luffy to abandon his dreams in order to spare him the same fate he went through. Luffy realizes this, and who Bellamy is, and does NOT like what his friend's become, and shows him by force.]] ...wow, I'm overthinking this.
* Hey, maybe he's Kidd.
** The goggles...Hmm...but the eyes don't match.
* Meybe he's Killer.
* Jossed : WordOfGod confirmed, through one of the Databooks, that [[spoiler: Sabo]] really did die in that incident.
* The majority of the databooks are not written by Oda. That includes series and character information, which is based on what has been seen and revealed in the source material. As far as source material goes, [[spoiler: Sabo is alluded as dead.]]
* That doesn't change the fact that [[spoiler: Sabo has been confirmed dead]]. Even if the Databooks weren't written by Oda, he still oversees them as they reveal trivia facts and clarify plot points, and there's no way in hell he'd let such a huge mistake fly.
** No way in hell he'd let such a twist be revealed in extra material? Authors lie on occasion, otherwise every twist in a series would be revealed in the first interview.
* [[spoiler: Chapter 731 confirmed that he is still alive.]]
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[[spoiler: [[http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/93580674/1 This may well just be imagery,]] but with Oda...he wouldn't just draw Sabo like that without it being a Chekov's something.]]
* Either that, or [[spoiler:it's a page of characters who'll be dead by the end of the series. SO LUFFY'S GONNA DIE.]]
** Psssh, [[spoiler: Oda wouldn't kill his main character...would he? ...OH DEAR GOD!]]
*** I think it's the end of the people hanging out and start of a What If? line of covers like Zoro with an adult Kuina, Nami and Usopp with their Mothers, etc. Of course, Oda does love to screw with us.
*** As awesome as the above would be, this still doesn't get rid of the suspicion surrounding [[spoiler:adult!Sabo's hat-hidden face]].
**** OH ****! [[spoiler:SABO IS DOFLAMINGO! HE LOOKS LIKE HIM, AT LEAST! THAT SMILE!]]
***** ...oh god. [[FridgeHorror OH GOD!]] IF IT'S [[spoiler: [[LaserGuidedAmnesia], DOFLAMINGO WOULD MAKE PERFECT DANG SENSE!]] THAT'S WHY ODA HID HIS EYES!
*** That's not possible. [[spoiler: Sabo is way too young to be Doflamingo. Doflamingo was shown attending Roger's execution, while Sabo is about the same age as Ace, who wasn't born until after Roger's death]].
*** ...good point...but [[spoiler: if he's not Doflamingo...THEN HE'S BELLAMY!]]
**** No, he was born in the North Blue, and looks a bit older then 20.
**** Looks can be deceiving. *coughKurehacough*
**** Sweet bajeezuz! [[spoiler:Then Luffy ''almost'' killed Sabo? Again?! And then he was killed by Doflamingo! It only gets worse!]]
**** If you think about it, [[spoiler: Sabo would probably be at least SOMEWHAT traumatized by the whole near-death thing. So, over time, his resentment at his first attempt at piracy nearly being the death of him because he wanted to follow his dreams, he gave up on dreaming, dying his hair, going through a growth spurt, and changing his personality to reflect his mindset. Years later, when he saw Luffy, sure, he could've had the memories rush back to him, and he was actually trying to get Luffy to abandon his dreams in order to spare him the same fate he went through. Luffy realizes this, and who Bellamy is, and does NOT like what his friend's become, and shows him by force.]] ...wow, I'm overthinking this.
* Hey, maybe he's Kidd.
** The goggles...Hmm...but the eyes don't match.
* Meybe he's Killer.
* Jossed : WordOfGod confirmed, through one of the Databooks, that [[spoiler: Sabo]] really did die in that incident.
* The majority of the databooks are not written by Oda. That includes series and character information, which is based on what has been seen and revealed in the source material. As far as source material goes, [[spoiler: Sabo is alluded as dead.]]
* That doesn't change the fact that [[spoiler: Sabo has been confirmed dead]]. Even if the Databooks weren't written by Oda, he still oversees them as they reveal trivia facts and clarify plot points, and there's no way in hell he'd let such a huge mistake fly.
** No way in hell he'd let such a twist be revealed in extra material? Authors lie on occasion, otherwise every twist in a series would be revealed in the first interview.
* [[spoiler: Chapter 731 confirmed that he is still alive.]]
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* Jossed : WordOfGod confirmed, through one of the Databooks, that [[spoiler: Sabo]] really did die in that incident.
* The majority of the databooks are not written by Oda. That includes series and character information, which is based on what has been seen and revealed in the source material. As far as source material goes, [[spoiler: Sabo is alluded as dead.]]
* That doesn't change the fact that [[spoiler: Sabo has been confirmed dead]]. Even if the Databooks weren't written by Oda, he still oversees them as they reveal trivia facts and clarify plot points, and there's no way in hell he'd let such a huge mistake fly.
** No way in hell he'd let such a twist be revealed in extra material? Authors lie on occasion, otherwise every twist in a series would be revealed in the first interview.
* The majority of the databooks are not written by Oda. That includes series and character information, which is based on what has been seen and revealed in the source material. As far as source material goes, [[spoiler: Sabo is alluded as dead.]]
* That doesn't change the fact that [[spoiler: Sabo has been confirmed dead]]. Even if the Databooks weren't written by Oda, he still oversees them as they reveal trivia facts and clarify plot points, and there's no way in hell he'd let such a huge mistake fly.
** No way in hell he'd let such a twist be revealed in extra material? Authors lie on occasion, otherwise every twist in a series would be revealed in the first interview.
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[[WMG: Trébol is responsible for the memory-wiping.]]
Thunder Soldier and the Tontattas just put two and two together and guessed that Sugar is responsible for both toy-conversion and memory-wiping. We can take Thunder Soldier to be right about Sugar turning people into toys, as he witnessed it firsthand, but the memory-wiping is indirect, the toys do not feel it happening, and the act seems too disconnected from her power set. Thus, I believe Trébol has a Memory Memory Fruit that allows him to erase and possibly insert memories on a wide scale and that his glop-like appearance is just him being a slob. Trébol is in charge of the Special Powers division of the Doflamingo Pirates, so he must have bizarre, non-combat powers himself, but that he's their leader means he can weaponize the powers he has. I would also bet that Trébol has the ability to ''insert'' memories too--together, it would make for an incredibly dangerous Devil Fruit ability even in the hands of someone with no physical ability to fight.
* Jossed, everyone memories returned as soon as Sugar knocked out.
Thunder Soldier and the Tontattas just put two and two together and guessed that Sugar is responsible for both toy-conversion and memory-wiping. We can take Thunder Soldier to be right about Sugar turning people into toys, as he witnessed it firsthand, but the memory-wiping is indirect, the toys do not feel it happening, and the act seems too disconnected from her power set. Thus, I believe Trébol has a Memory Memory Fruit that allows him to erase and possibly insert memories on a wide scale and that his glop-like appearance is just him being a slob. Trébol is in charge of the Special Powers division of the Doflamingo Pirates, so he must have bizarre, non-combat powers himself, but that he's their leader means he can weaponize the powers he has. I would also bet that Trébol has the ability to ''insert'' memories too--together, it would make for an incredibly dangerous Devil Fruit ability even in the hands of someone with no physical ability to fight.
* Jossed, everyone memories returned as soon as Sugar knocked out.
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Thunder Soldier and the Tontattas just put two and two together and guessed that Sugar is responsible for both toy-conversion and memory-wiping. We can take Thunder Soldier to be right about Sugar turning people into toys, as he witnessed it firsthand, but the memory-wiping is indirect, the toys do not feel it happening, and the act seems too disconnected from her power set. Thus, I believe Trébol has a Memory Memory Fruit that allows him to erase and possibly insert memories on a wide scale and that his glop-like appearance is just him being a slob. Trébol is in charge of the Special Powers division of the Doflamingo Pirates, so he must have bizarre, non-combat powers himself, but that he's their leader means he can weaponize the powers he has. I would also bet that Trébol has the ability to ''insert'' memories too--together, it would make for an incredibly dangerous Devil Fruit ability even in the hands of someone with no physical ability to fight.
* Jossed, everyone memories returned as soon as Sugar knocked out.
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[[WMG: Trafalgar Law]]
Is like Law has a plan involving the Mugiwara that will become an important plot when trying to reach Raftel ... after all, he's seen talking about keeping a low profile and steal a good seat (or something of that sort) I think Law will play an important asset in the New World that could even fuck Doflamingo's plans. I'm curious because everybody have in the list of "potential New World threats" half the cast of One Piece but almost nobody remembers Trafalgar. It's one of the most cryptic characters that have appeared so far, his intentions are too fuzzy to really say something about him besides he's creepy, and he's got all the looks of a villain or someone in that range, AND being one of the supernova who made a link of at least recognition with Luffy besides Kidd (who is obviously a Chaothic Evil - Neutral).
Talking about Doflamingo, maybe there's a kind of conection between him an Trafalgar, their Jolly Roger are really alike... Third option would be Law holding a grudge against Dofla and searchin a good spot to kill him. (Or been part of Donflamingo's plan)
There is also the possibility of him becoming one of the new age Yonkou while Luffy makes his way to become the pirate king, it seems possible, but... seriously, there's something definitely not right with this guy, Just because he saved Luffy I'm not forgetting the potential time bomb that he is and find Law more dangerous than many in the black list of fans, he seems the type that gives you a good stab in the back or pulls a GambitRoullete of the not good kind.
• Confirmed, at least so far. Nice work matching the insignias of Law's and Doflamingo's--Law (forlerly) works for Doflamingo. And indeed, Law's plan seems to involve the Straw Hats, as he has chosen to ally with them to further his goals. Considering Law intends to take out Kaido, it's become likely that he intends to become one of the Emperors, or at least fill Kaido's seat. I'll keep this here for now, at least until Law's plans come to completion.
Is like Law has a plan involving the Mugiwara that will become an important plot when trying to reach Raftel ... after all, he's seen talking about keeping a low profile and steal a good seat (or something of that sort) I think Law will play an important asset in the New World that could even fuck Doflamingo's plans. I'm curious because everybody have in the list of "potential New World threats" half the cast of One Piece but almost nobody remembers Trafalgar. It's one of the most cryptic characters that have appeared so far, his intentions are too fuzzy to really say something about him besides he's creepy, and he's got all the looks of a villain or someone in that range, AND being one of the supernova who made a link of at least recognition with Luffy besides Kidd (who is obviously a Chaothic Evil - Neutral).
Talking about Doflamingo, maybe there's a kind of conection between him an Trafalgar, their Jolly Roger are really alike... Third option would be Law holding a grudge against Dofla and searchin a good spot to kill him. (Or been part of Donflamingo's plan)
There is also the possibility of him becoming one of the new age Yonkou while Luffy makes his way to become the pirate king, it seems possible, but... seriously, there's something definitely not right with this guy, Just because he saved Luffy I'm not forgetting the potential time bomb that he is and find Law more dangerous than many in the black list of fans, he seems the type that gives you a good stab in the back or pulls a GambitRoullete of the not good kind.
• Confirmed, at least so far. Nice work matching the insignias of Law's and Doflamingo's--Law (forlerly) works for Doflamingo. And indeed, Law's plan seems to involve the Straw Hats, as he has chosen to ally with them to further his goals. Considering Law intends to take out Kaido, it's become likely that he intends to become one of the Emperors, or at least fill Kaido's seat. I'll keep this here for now, at least until Law's plans come to completion.
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[[WMG: Not all carriers of the will of D have D in their name]]
Dr. H is a prime example.
* Confirmed. Anyone can change (or hide) their name, you know. On the other hand, having a D in your name isn't necessarily mean you have the will of D. At least that's what Whitebeard said to Teach...
[[WMG: Akainu becomes the Fleet Admiral, but Vice Admiral Doberman succeds his post]]
From one dog to another. Perhaps the Dalmatian Zoan VA also is a candidate, if he has a name like that too.
* [[spoiler: First part confirmed, no word on the second.]]
* [[spoiler: Quite close. Strawberry has Admiral shoulderpads, though this is not proof he's an Admiral. Nevertheless, he was one of Doberman's comrades in the Enies Lobby Buster Call and if he is indeed an Admiral, that makes this an almost Confirmed with a slice of Jossed.]]
[[WMG: Luffy's strongest attack will be a tribute to Ace.]]
Since both Luffy and Ace have punches as a signature technique, I could imagine Luffy using Gear Second (and possibly Gear Third), and using his Haki, somehow make flames coming from his fist, whether real or an illusion (Like Zoro's Asura). It would go something like "Gomu Gomu no Hiken". He'll probably use it in his final fight.
* Maybe he could spin his arm("winding up") a la Sanji's Diable Jambe for that effect. I'd mark out for "Gum-Gum Fire Fist".
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Red Hawk, anyone? Albeit he unveils it in a fight that's far from his last one.]]
** This is close enough for me! I'm counting it as my first confirmed WMG ever!
Dr. H is a prime example.
* Confirmed. Anyone can change (or hide) their name, you know. On the other hand, having a D in your name isn't necessarily mean you have the will of D. At least that's what Whitebeard said to Teach...
[[WMG: Akainu becomes the Fleet Admiral, but Vice Admiral Doberman succeds his post]]
From one dog to another. Perhaps the Dalmatian Zoan VA also is a candidate, if he has a name like that too.
* [[spoiler: First part confirmed, no word on the second.]]
* [[spoiler: Quite close. Strawberry has Admiral shoulderpads, though this is not proof he's an Admiral. Nevertheless, he was one of Doberman's comrades in the Enies Lobby Buster Call and if he is indeed an Admiral, that makes this an almost Confirmed with a slice of Jossed.]]
[[WMG: Luffy's strongest attack will be a tribute to Ace.]]
Since both Luffy and Ace have punches as a signature technique, I could imagine Luffy using Gear Second (and possibly Gear Third), and using his Haki, somehow make flames coming from his fist, whether real or an illusion (Like Zoro's Asura). It would go something like "Gomu Gomu no Hiken". He'll probably use it in his final fight.
* Maybe he could spin his arm("winding up") a la Sanji's Diable Jambe for that effect. I'd mark out for "Gum-Gum Fire Fist".
** [[spoiler: Confirmed. Red Hawk, anyone? Albeit he unveils it in a fight that's far from his last one.]]
** This is close enough for me! I'm counting it as my first confirmed WMG ever!
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[[WMG: Trafalgar Law carries the Will of D.]]
Seriously, look at him without his hat on. He looks like a younger Dragon or a bit more rugged Ace.
* Spot on dude! Confirmed in chapter 763 - his full name is Trafalgar D. Watel Law
[[WMG: The Heart Pirates aren't dead, they are each undertaking their own training]]
The reason why we haven't seen Law's cew is not that he killed them or Clown has them, he actually worked out what Kuma had done to the Straw Hats, and decided that he would follow suit, disbanding his crew so that they could each become stronger before entering the New World. Also as he planned to go to Punk Hazard, he told them not to come with him in case they got killed.
*Dunno about them training, but they seem alive so far
[[WMG: Doflamingo is a Celestial Dragon.]]
Heavily implied in the latest chapter, and would answer a lot of things.
* Or at least, related
* Confirmed
Seriously, look at him without his hat on. He looks like a younger Dragon or a bit more rugged Ace.
* Spot on dude! Confirmed in chapter 763 - his full name is Trafalgar D. Watel Law
[[WMG: The Heart Pirates aren't dead, they are each undertaking their own training]]
The reason why we haven't seen Law's cew is not that he killed them or Clown has them, he actually worked out what Kuma had done to the Straw Hats, and decided that he would follow suit, disbanding his crew so that they could each become stronger before entering the New World. Also as he planned to go to Punk Hazard, he told them not to come with him in case they got killed.
*Dunno about them training, but they seem alive so far
[[WMG: Doflamingo is a Celestial Dragon.]]
Heavily implied in the latest chapter, and would answer a lot of things.
* Or at least, related
* Confirmed
