History WMG / Mulan

24th Sep '17 12:29:10 AM tdwally
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[[WMG: Had he gone instead of Mulan, Fa Zhou would not have been sent to the war.]]
He's a distinguished veteran with an injury that prevents him from being able to fight. He's practically tailor-made to train new recruits, either alongside Shang or simply taking over his role entirely.
11th Mar '17 6:45:02 AM alnair20aug93
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[[WMG: [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A foreign prince and princess]] was spotted at the roof of the palace after Shan-yu was killed.]]

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[[WMG: [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A foreign prince and princess]] was spotted at the roof of the palace right after Shan-yu was killed.]]
11th Mar '17 6:44:24 AM alnair20aug93
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[[WMG: [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} A foreign prince and princess]] was spotted at the roof of the palace after Shan-yu was killed.]]
How they got there was a mystery, considering all they carried was a rug.
24th Feb '16 4:50:16 AM Yatagerasu
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* Why not? Even if Sheng's small platoon had made it through the pass undiscovered, sooner or later the Hun army would have come down, meeting them at a place other than a choke point where the army could be destroyed by a single rocket. There would have been one small skirmish, not even worth mentioning in the history books, then on to the capital.
29th Oct '15 11:40:58 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* Thus, Mulan is a exploration of gender essentialism - i.e. that certain characteristics must be indicative of a male or female persona, rather than being fundamentally neutral. Mulan's internal conflict does not seem significantly centered on her female identity so much as how to express the individual aspects of that identity in harmony with the expectations of her culture. She lacks agency within the confines of her life, which is the root of a lot of her esteem and self-worth issues. The Mulan we see after the war is far more mature and self-assured, without having completely rejected her feminine identity. We're speaking of a time period where the entire concept of transgender would've been ill-defined, if acknowledged at all in old China's sharply defined gender paradigms.
** Listen to the lyrics in "Reflection". She sings of rejecting her gentle lamb self and how she feels she isn't meant to "play the part" of the bride. Keep in mind all this was before the conscription notices were passed out.

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Thus, Mulan is a exploration of gender essentialism - i.e. that certain characteristics must be indicative of a male or female persona, rather than being fundamentally neutral. Mulan's internal conflict does not seem significantly centered on her female identity so much as how to express the individual aspects of that identity in harmony with the expectations of her culture. She lacks agency within the confines of her life, which is the root of a lot of her esteem and self-worth issues. The Mulan we see after the war is far more mature and self-assured, without having completely rejected her feminine identity. We're speaking of a time period where the entire concept of transgender would've been ill-defined, if acknowledged at all in old China's sharply defined gender paradigms.
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paradigms.

Listen to the lyrics in "Reflection". She sings of rejecting her gentle lamb self and how she feels she isn't meant to "play the part" of the bride. Keep in mind all this was before the conscription notices were passed out.



** That would also explain why the ancestor didn't act suspicious about Mushu's PaperThinDisguise when he was holding up the statue's head and pretending he was the Great Stone Dragon.

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** That * This would also explain why the ancestor didn't act suspicious about Mushu's PaperThinDisguise when he was holding up the statue's head and pretending he was the Great Stone Dragon.



Related to the above. She might've gone home, passed her matchmaker test fairly this time with her newly earned discipline and is betrothed to Shang. Shang begins to think his new bride looks awfully familiar...

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Related to the above. She might've gone home, passed her matchmaker test fairly this time with her newly earned discipline and is betrothed to Shang. Shang begins to think his new bride looks awfully familiar...



No guesses why.
* Or they'll nane their first child Ping regardless of the sex; it ''is'' a fairly androgynous name, depending on the characters used.

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No guesses why.
* Or they'll nane their first child Ping regardless Regardless of the sex; it ''is'' a fairly androgynous name, depending on the characters used.



How else would it have survived?

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How else would it have survived?
survived? It's also how Shan Yu was able to pop out of the snow, "like a daisy!"



* That makes perfect sense. Warhorses required a great deal of time and effort to train so they wouldn't panic under the conditions on a battlefield, and could be very expensive as a result. Considering how badly Fa Zhou was injured in the last war, they would probably not buy a new warhorse to replace the old one when it died, as there would be no real need. Then when you compare how long horses live on average and when the last war took place, this idea makes the most sense.

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* That makes perfect sense. Warhorses Additionally, warhorses required a great deal of time and effort to train so they wouldn't panic under the conditions on a battlefield, and could be very expensive as a result. Considering how badly Fa Zhou was injured in the last war, they would probably not buy a new warhorse to replace the old one when it died, as there would be no real need. Then when you compare how long horses live on average and when the last war took place, this idea makes the most sense.



It seems odd that Mulan is an only child, plus an only daughter, in a society where women are pressured to bear sons. Also, both her parents look considerably older than her, I'd say 50 something while she's in her early 20's if that old. Possibly, Li had a lot of miscarriages or kids that got sick and died before she had Mulan. It's also quite likely that a young Mulan asked for a little brother (possibly too young to know how babies were made at the time) and her parents, rather than go through the heartbreak of another miscarriage, decided to get her a puppy instead. That would be the dog called Little Brother.

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It seems odd that Mulan is an only child, plus an only daughter, in a society where women are pressured to bear sons. Also, both her parents look considerably older than her, I'd say 50 something while she's in her early 20's if that old. Possibly, Li had a lot of miscarriages or kids that got sick and died before she had Mulan. It's also quite likely that a young Mulan asked for a little brother (possibly too young to know how babies were made at the time) and her parents, rather than go through the heartbreak of another miscarriage, decided to get her a puppy instead. That would be the dog called Little Brother.



[[WMG: The "girl back home who's not like any other"? [[DotingParent Chi-Fu's]] [[MilitaryBrat daughter]].]]

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[[WMG: The "girl back home who's not like any other"? [[DotingParent Chi-Fu's]] [[MilitaryBrat Chi-Fu's daughter]].]]



Recall the "I'll Make A Man Out Of You" sequence, where Shang brings in the weights that are so heavy they more or less immobilize everyone who puts them on. Notice that Chi-Fu is carrying the box containing them, and it only mildly troubles him. Calling it now, Chi-Fu could have won the war by himself had he actually given a shit, and he only acts the way he does in the movie because he wants to know what this strange feeling called "cowardice" feels like.

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Recall the "I'll Make A Man Out Of You" sequence, where Shang brings in the weights that are so heavy they more or less immobilize everyone who puts them on. Notice that Chi-Fu is carrying the box containing them, and it only mildly troubles him. Calling it now, Chi-Fu could have won the war by himself had he actually given a shit, and he only acts the way he does in the movie because he wants to know what this strange feeling called "cowardice" feels like.



Seriously. Take a good look at Shan-Yu...where else could Lucas possibly have gotten the idea for Darth Maul's/Sidious'/Vader's Sith eyes?

[[WMG: The Cricket actually was lucky.]]
If the meeting with the matchmaker had gone well chances are Mulan would have been too busy, by hook or crook, with her wedding arrangements. Only through the crickets interventions she was in the right place and time to overhear the military call, to decide to go in her fathers place, and thus set the movie proper in action. Her momentary bad luck, led to future fortune.

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Seriously. Take a good look at Shan-Yu...where else could Lucas possibly have gotten the idea for Darth Maul's/Sidious'/Vader's Sith eyes?

[[WMG: The Cricket actually was really is lucky.]]
If the meeting with the matchmaker had gone well chances are Mulan would have been too busy, by hook or crook, with her wedding arrangements. Only through the crickets cricket's interventions she was in the right place and time to overhear the military call, to decide to go in her fathers father's place, and thus set the movie proper in action. Her momentary bad luck, led to future fortune.
31st Aug '15 1:39:03 PM ChaoticNovelist
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But not for the reasons you're probably thinking. If the meeting with the matchmaker had gone well chances are Mulan would have been too busy, by hook or crook, with her wedding arrangements. Only through the crickets interventions she was in the right place and time to overhear the military call, to decide to go in her fathers place, and thus set the movie proper in action. her momentary bad luck, led to future fortune.

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But not for the reasons you're probably thinking. If the meeting with the matchmaker had gone well chances are Mulan would have been too busy, by hook or crook, with her wedding arrangements. Only through the crickets interventions she was in the right place and time to overhear the military call, to decide to go in her fathers place, and thus set the movie proper in action. her Her momentary bad luck, led to future fortune.
29th Aug '15 3:41:53 PM Toli
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[[WMG: The Cricket actually was lucky.]]
But not for the reasons you're probably thinking. If the meeting with the matchmaker had gone well chances are Mulan would have been too busy, by hook or crook, with her wedding arrangements. Only through the crickets interventions she was in the right place and time to overhear the military call, to decide to go in her fathers place, and thus set the movie proper in action. her momentary bad luck, led to future fortune.
24th Aug '15 10:00:49 AM ChaoticNovelist
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By only a speck of blood from mllenia ago, so it's not realy incest.
** You mean the whole 'my great great great great grandad was your great great great great grandad's brother' sort of thing?

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By only a speck of blood from mllenia ago, so it's not realy incest.
** You mean the whole
incest. It's like that 'my great great great great grandad was your great great great great grandad's brother' sort of thing?
thing.



It would explain why he's so effeminate, and why he's always so angry.
* Well... Given how the vast majority of the emperor's male servants would have been eunuchs (if we're actually [[AnachronismStew going for historical accuracy]], anyway)... Not only does this theory explain a lot about Chi Fu, it has basis in fact, too!

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It would explain why he's so effeminate, and why he's always so angry.
* Well...
angry. Given how the vast majority of the emperor's male servants would have been eunuchs (if we're actually [[AnachronismStew going for historical accuracy]], anyway)... Not only does this theory explain a lot about Chi Fu, it has basis in fact, too!
23rd Aug '15 9:23:34 PM washington213
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** Listen to the lyrics in "Reflection". She sings of rejecting her gentle lamb self and how she feels she isn't meant to "play the part" of the bride. Keep in mind all this was before the conscription notices were passed out.
5th Mar '15 6:55:29 AM Movienut376
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[[WMG: George Lucas is a fan.]]
Seriously. Take a good look at Shan-Yu...where else could Lucas possibly have gotten the idea for Darth Maul's/Sidious'/Vader's Sith eyes?
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