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24th Sep '17 11:28:33 PM ImSpidey2
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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three things: the whole Metroid cloning process, Nightmare, and Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]] [[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]] Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.


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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three four things: Adam's existence, the whole Metroid cloning process, Nightmare, and Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]] [[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]] Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.

19th Sep '17 4:32:27 AM ImSpidey2
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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are two things: the whole Metroid cloning process, and Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]] [[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]] Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.


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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are two three things: the whole Metroid cloning process, Nightmare, and Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]] [[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]] Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.

15th Sep '17 12:35:49 AM ImSpidey2
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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are two things: the whole Metroid cloning process, and Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways.
Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]]
[[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]]
Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.


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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are two things: the whole Metroid cloning process, and Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. \n Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]]
]] [[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]]
]] Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.

15th Sep '17 12:35:13 AM ImSpidey2
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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three things: the whole Metroid cloning process, [[spoiler:the truth of MB, and that Ridley was also cloned.]] That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.


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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three two things: the whole Metroid cloning process, [[spoiler:the truth of MB, and that Ridley was also cloned.]] Ridley. That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways.
Melissa Bergman? Just a harmless scientist. [[spoiler:SA-X just randomly assumes the "[[BrainUploading truth]]" about MB.]]
[[spoiler:Phantoon?]] Actually a GF ship trying to gun SA-X down because of [[spoiler:it murdering MB.]]
Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.

15th Sep '17 12:31:47 AM ImSpidey2
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* Beyond the jumbled flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it, while the real Samus was busy recovering from her near death experience from the X Parasite. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three things: the whole Metroid cloning process, [[spoiler:the truth of MB, and that Ridley was also cloned.]] That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.


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* Beyond the jumbled or changed to the point of being unidentifiable flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It oversaw Samus' journey through Zebes in ''Super'' and recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it, while the real Samus was busy recovering from her near death experience from the X Parasite.it. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three things: the whole Metroid cloning process, [[spoiler:the truth of MB, and that Ridley was also cloned.]] That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after trying to infect Samus and obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.

15th Sep '17 12:28:18 AM ImSpidey2
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* Beyond the jumbled flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it, while the real Samus was busy recovering from her near death experience from the X Parasite. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.


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* Beyond the jumbled flashbacks, the rest of the game is ThroughTheEyesOfMadness, hence stuff like the Deleter subplot. It recreated Samus' appearance, just out of its own memory, and just went with it, while the real Samus was busy recovering from her near death experience from the X Parasite. Why?...Because [[ForTheEvulz it felt like it, apparently.]] The only plot points in the game that are 100% real are three things: the whole Metroid cloning process, [[spoiler:the truth of MB, and that Ridley was also cloned.]] That's it. The rest is basically SA-X screwing around and misinterpretating almost everything in different ways. Plus, it probably didn't know much about Samus nor humans in general anyway, therefore, it [[CharacterDerailment gets her character all wrong.]] The redesign of the Gravity Suit also helps, since it probably didn't even know how her ''suit'' works, too. It's only after obtaining the infected portions of Samus' Power Suit parts that it knows what it's doing. Regardless, the battle with the SA-X in ''Fusion'' probably had it saying [[MemeticMutation "the baby the baby the baby the baby"]] non-stop.

18th Jun '17 2:53:54 PM nombretomado
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*** Even ThatOtherWiki with all its restrictions is able to state that Samus's new characterisation is near-universally disliked.

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*** Even ThatOtherWiki Wiki/ThatOtherWiki with all its restrictions is able to state that Samus's new characterisation is near-universally disliked.
12th May '17 5:32:52 AM Cryoclaste
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Such a strategy is certainly not foreign to the ''{{Metroid}}'' series. Recall back to the time of ''Echoes'' and ''Hunters''. Like ''Other M'', neither of these games broke the million units sold barrier thanks to certain aspects that alienated customers. So when ''Corruption'' came around, RetroStudios took out or de-emphasized the parts that critics didn't like (limited ammo for all non-Power Beam weapons, excessive linearity, multiplayer, unbalanced difficulty, etc.) while retaining and expanding on the bits that critics ''did'' like (emphasis on other hunters besides Samus, flying around in the gunship, free aiming, etc.). The same is bound to happen with the next game; the disliked bits (Samus' characterization and narration, the linearity, the length of cutscenes, the "authorization" mechanic, etc.) will be expunged or altered, while the well-liked bits (the smooth controls, the refocusing on advanced platforming, the faster pace, the concept of a more complex plot, etc.) will be improved upon.

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Such a strategy is certainly not foreign to the ''{{Metroid}}'' ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' series. Recall back to the time of ''Echoes'' and ''Hunters''. Like ''Other M'', neither of these games broke the million units sold barrier thanks to certain aspects that alienated customers. So when ''Corruption'' came around, RetroStudios took out or de-emphasized the parts that critics didn't like (limited ammo for all non-Power Beam weapons, excessive linearity, multiplayer, unbalanced difficulty, etc.) while retaining and expanding on the bits that critics ''did'' like (emphasis on other hunters besides Samus, flying around in the gunship, free aiming, etc.). The same is bound to happen with the next game; the disliked bits (Samus' characterization and narration, the linearity, the length of cutscenes, the "authorization" mechanic, etc.) will be expunged or altered, while the well-liked bits (the smooth controls, the refocusing on advanced platforming, the faster pace, the concept of a more complex plot, etc.) will be improved upon.
8th Mar '17 1:16:44 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** There was a scene in MetroidFusion in which the AI actually asks Samus if the "Adam" she's naming the AI after would "lead her into a dangerous area to die" when she tells it of her loyalty to him. The "hell run" is more or less there in order to give some sort of continuity. In order for the AI to question the loyalty from something such as that, the actual event needs to take place. Since Other M takes place before Fusion, it's only fitting that that event would happen before Fusion.

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** There was a scene in MetroidFusion VideoGame/MetroidFusion in which the AI actually asks Samus if the "Adam" she's naming the AI after would "lead her into a dangerous area to die" when she tells it of her loyalty to him. The "hell run" is more or less there in order to give some sort of continuity. In order for the AI to question the loyalty from something such as that, the actual event needs to take place. Since Other M takes place before Fusion, it's only fitting that that event would happen before Fusion.
4th Mar '17 6:54:42 AM Bartzv
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To expand on the previous entry: Samus left Adam's command and became a successful bounty hunter, with Adam resenting her for leaving. When Adam reunites with her and decides to let her investigate the ship, he quickly reasserts himself as her commander, making it clear that he has complete control of her actions. The Metroid Prime games were made by another developer without Sakamoto's input and achieved critical acclaim, something he must be resentful of on some level as the series' co-creator. Other M was the first Metroid game Sakamoto had worked on since ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'' and he reportedly had complete control of the game's development. Adam's relationship with Samus is a metaphor for Sakamoto relationship with the franchise; namely how he effectively lost control of the franchise to the Prime games and then reasserted that control with this game years later.

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To expand on the previous entry: Samus left Adam's command and became a successful bounty hunter, with Adam resenting her for leaving. When Adam reunites with her and decides to let her investigate the ship, he quickly reasserts himself as her commander, making it clear that he has complete control of her actions. The Metroid Prime games were made by another developer (Retro Studios) without Sakamoto's input and achieved critical acclaim, something he must be resentful of on some level as the series' co-creator. Other M was the first Metroid game Sakamoto had worked on since ''VideoGame/MetroidFusion'' and he reportedly had complete control of the game's development. Adam's relationship with Samus is a metaphor for Sakamoto Sakamoto's relationship with the franchise; namely how he effectively lost control of the franchise to the Prime games and then reasserted that control with this game years later.
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