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*** But since Japan had only open up to the west in the mid 1800's (which is about the same time that DNA in this world was discovered), and only became a Darwinist nation in 1902. So maybe the Japanese were "courted" by the Darwinists and Clankers who provided "samples" of their tech and after Japan chose to go Darwinist they still kept some of the Clanker machines and there's still someone working on the machines. Oh yeah, as for fabs, the Japanese could have {{Pokemon}} and Godzilla in their arsenal!

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*** But since Japan had only open up to the west in the mid 1800's (which is about the same time that DNA in this world was discovered), and only became a Darwinist nation in 1902. So maybe the Japanese were "courted" by the Darwinists and Clankers who provided "samples" of their tech and after Japan chose to go Darwinist they still kept some of the Clanker machines and there's still someone working on the machines. Oh yeah, as for fabs, the Japanese could have {{Pokemon}} and Godzilla {{Godzilla}} in their arsenal!
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*** But since Japan had only open up to the west in the mid 1800's (which is about the same time that DNA in this world was discovered), and only became a Darwinist nation in 1902. So maybe the Japanese were "courted" by the Darwinists and Clankers who provided "samples" of their tech and after Japan chose to go Darwinist they still kept some of the Clanker machines and there's still someone working on the machines. Oh yeah, as for fabs, the Japanese could have Pokemon and Godzilla in their arsenal!

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*** But since Japan had only open up to the west in the mid 1800's (which is about the same time that DNA in this world was discovered), and only became a Darwinist nation in 1902. So maybe the Japanese were "courted" by the Darwinists and Clankers who provided "samples" of their tech and after Japan chose to go Darwinist they still kept some of the Clanker machines and there's still someone working on the machines. Oh yeah, as for fabs, the Japanese could have Pokemon {{Pokemon}} and Godzilla in their arsenal!
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*** But since Japan had only open up to the west in the mid 1800's (which is about the same time that DNA in this world was discovered), and only became a Darwinist nation in 1902. So maybe the Japanese were "courted" by the Darwinists and Clankers who provided "samples" of their tech and after Japan chose to go Darwinist they still kept some of the Clanker machines and there's still someone working on the machines. Oh yeah, as for fabs, the Japanese could have Pokemon and Godzilla in their arsenal!
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** But, given that Japan is a total Darwinist state here, and not a Clanker state, wouldn't that just be a gigantic WallBanger?

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** *** But, given that Japan is a total Darwinist state here, and not a Clanker state, wouldn't that just be a gigantic WallBanger?
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** But, given that Japan is a total Darwinist state here, and not a Clanker state, wouldn't that just be a gigantic WallBanger?
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** Alternatively, they will have Kitsune and the like, but also HumongousMecha. Because it's ''Japan.''

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** Alternatively, they will have Kitsune and the like, but also HumongousMecha. Because it's ''Japan.''
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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create [[{{SuperSoldier}} supersoldiers]] and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a [[{{DoomsdayDevice}} super virus]] to use against the Japanese.

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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create [[{{SuperSoldier}} supersoldiers]] and will have no qualms about creating [[{{HumanoidAbomination}} human/animal fabs.fabs]]. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a [[{{DoomsdayDevice}} super virus]] to use against the Japanese.
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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create [[{{SuperSoldier}} supersoldiers]] and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a [[{{DoomsdayDevise}} super virus]] to use against the Japanese.

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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create [[{{SuperSoldier}} supersoldiers]] and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a [[{{DoomsdayDevise}} [[{{DoomsdayDevice}} super virus]] to use against the Japanese.
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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a super virus to use against the Japanese.

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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers [[{{SuperSoldier}} supersoldiers]] and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a [[{{DoomsdayDevise}} super virus virus]] to use against the Japanese.
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* Think about it, everything in Australia is already trying to kill you. All the Aussie fabricators really have to do is to make the animals more trainable and a bit bigger if need be.

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* Think about it, everything [[{{AustralianWildlife}} everything]] in Australia is already trying to [[{{DeathWorld}} kill you.you]]. All the Aussie fabricators really have to do is to make the animals more trainable and a bit bigger if need be.
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** Their equivalent of Britain's krakens will be resized [[EverythingsBeterWithPlatypi platypodes]] and stingrays.

[[Doctor Barlow is a MrsRobinson.]]

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** Their equivalent of Britain's krakens will be resized [[EverythingsBeterWithPlatypi [[EverythingsBetterWithPlatypi platypodes]] and stingrays.

[[Doctor [[WMG: Doctor Barlow is a MrsRobinson.]]

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** Alternatively, they will have Kitsune and the like, but also HumongousMecha. Because it's ''Japan.''



* Think about it, everything in Australia is already trying to kill you. All the Aussie fabricators really have to do is to make the animals more trainable and a bit bigger if need be.

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* Think about it, everything in Australia is already trying to kill you. All the Aussie fabricators really have to do is to make the animals more trainable and a bit bigger if need be.be.
** Their equivalent of Britain's krakens will be resized [[EverythingsBeterWithPlatypi platypodes]] and stingrays.

[[Doctor Barlow is a MrsRobinson.]]
* For Dylan or Deryn (f she's figured it out). Some of her actions in Behemoth...hoo boy...
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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to biological warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a super virus to use against the Japanese.

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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to biological germ warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a super virus to use against the Japanese.
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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre my turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to biological warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a super virus to use against the Japanese.

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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre my may turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to biological warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a super virus to use against the Japanese.

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* But if Westerfeld does, the Eastern European front will liturally be flowing with blood. Millions more there will be killed there than they were in our world. The Nazis will probably turn to Darwinist tech to try to create supersoldiers and will have no qualms about creating human/animal fabs. And the Pacific theatre my turn into a much longer conflict than in the real world; it may even be a lot like Vietnam. It also wouldn't be a streach of the imagination for both the Axis and Allies to turn to biological warfare. Maybe instead of the atomic bomb, the Americans devlope a super virus to use against the Japanese.


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[[WMG: If they're ever shown, the Australians are going to have the scariest fabricated beasts]]
* Think about it, everything in Australia is already trying to kill you. All the Aussie fabricators really have to do is to make the animals more trainable and a bit bigger if need be.
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* Providing the author even decides to go that far into history.

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* Providing *Providing the author even decides to go that far into history.



* RealLife WWI Japan had a ship that conducted the first naval-launched air raids, so you can bet they'll have the Darwinist version of a seaplane carrier and biplanes in Goliath. And actual [[{{Kitsune}} multi-tailed foxes]].

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* RealLife *RealLife WWI Japan had a ship that conducted the first naval-launched air raids, so you can bet they'll have the Darwinist version of a seaplane carrier and biplanes in Goliath. And actual [[{{Kitsune}} multi-tailed foxes]].
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* Providing the author even decides to go that far into history.

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* Providing *Providing the author even decides to go that far into history.



* RealLife WWI Japan had a ship that conducted the first naval-launched air raids, so you can bet they'll be the Darwinist version of a seaplane carrier in Goliath. And actual [[{{Kitsune}} multi-tailed foxes]].

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* RealLife *RealLife WWI Japan had a ship that conducted the first naval-launched air raids, so you can bet they'll be have the Darwinist version of a seaplane carrier and biplanes in Goliath. And actual [[{{Kitsune}} multi-tailed foxes]].
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* Providing the author even decides to go that far into history.

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* Providing *Providing the author even decides to go that far into history.



* RealLife WWI Japan had a ship that conducted the first naval-launched air raids, so you can bet they'll be the Darwinist version of a seaplane carrier in Goliath. And actual [[{{Kitsune}} multi-tailed foxes]].

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* RealLife *RealLife WWI Japan had a ship that conducted the first naval-launched air raids, so you can bet they'll be the Darwinist version of a seaplane carrier in Goliath. And actual [[{{Kitsune}} multi-tailed foxes]].

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[[WMG: Alek and Deryn ''won't'' get together.]]
* Honestly, look at the author's track record with the romance in his various books. {{Uglies}} and {{Midnighters}} being the [[MostTriumphantExample most triumphant examples]].
** Or, they get together and are separated by politics. If Alek becomes emperor, he won't be able to ''properly'' marry Deryn and so, she either has to be his mistress or just leave as they wouldn't wish a left-handed marriage on any children they have.




[[WMG: Alek and Deryn ''won't'' get together.]]
* Honestly, look at the author's track record with the romance in his various books. {{Uglies}} and {{Midnighters}} being the [[MostTriumphantExample most triumphant examples]].
** Or, they get together and are separated by politics. If Alek becomes emperor, he won't be able to ''properly'' marry Deryn and so, she either has to be his mistress or just leave as they wouldn't wish a left-handed marriage on any children they have.

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\n[[WMG: Alek and Deryn ''won't'' get together.]]\n* Honestly, look at *Providing the author's track record with the romance in his various books. {{Uglies}} and {{Midnighters}} being the [[MostTriumphantExample most triumphant examples]].
** Or, they get together and are separated by politics. If Alek becomes emperor, he won't be able
author even decides to ''properly'' marry Deryn and so, she either has to be his mistress or just leave as they wouldn't wish a left-handed marriage on any children they have.
go that far into history.



[WMG:Russia is going to have [Everything'sWorseWithBears Bear Cavalry]

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[[WMG: The Japanese will have kick-ass fabricated beasts.]]
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*America shall arrive and put the beatdown on the Germany, just as the its about to overwhelm the Darwinists, just like in the real WWI.... except Germany's going to use a bucketload of secret weapons this time.



* Much like with Dr. Barlow, he assumed something else. In this case, like the WMG above me, he believes "Dylan" to be gay.

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* Much like with Dr. Barlow, he assumed something else. In this case, like the WMG above me, he believes "Dylan" to be gay.gay.

[WMG:Russia is going to have [Everything'sWorseWithBears Bear Cavalry]
*As of Behemoth, Austria-Hungary isn't doing so well against Russia's bears
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[[WMG: The outcome of the war will be entirly different than it was in real history, with more a a truce than a beatdown.]]
* The author notes in the Afterword that he wants the Automan Empire to stay together.

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[[WMG: The outcome of the war will be entirly entirely different than it was in real history, with more a a truce than a beatdown.]]
* The author notes in the Afterword that he wants the Automan Ottoman Empire to stay together.




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** Or, they get together and are separated by politics. If Alek becomes emperor, he won't be able to ''properly'' marry Deryn and so, she either has to be his mistress or just leave as they wouldn't wish a left-handed marriage on any children they have.
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* But still thinks he is a guy, and so believes him to be gay. Alternatively, this is what Alek believes and it makes him a wee bit uncomfortable...

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* But still thinks he is a guy, and so believes him to be gay. Alternatively, this is what Alek believes and it makes him a wee bit uncomfortable...uncomfortable...

[[WMG: Volger doesn't know Deryn's real secret]]
* Much like with Dr. Barlow, he assumed something else. In this case, like the WMG above me, he believes "Dylan" to be gay.

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** Dr Barlow and Volger will also hook up, and did while they were offscreen in ''Behemoth.''



** {{Jossed}}. As of Behemoth, America uses a mix of Clanker and Darwin technology.

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** {{Jossed}}. As of Behemoth, America uses a mix of Clanker and Darwin technology.technology.

[[WMG: Dr. Barlow knows Dylan likes Alek...]]
* But still thinks he is a guy, and so believes him to be gay. Alternatively, this is what Alek believes and it makes him a wee bit uncomfortable...

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* This troper personally vouches for some sort of isolationist Zeerust utopia. (Note: I have not read Behemoth out, so I've got no clue if there is any reference to it in the book)

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* This troper personally vouches for some sort of isolationist Zeerust {{Zeerust}} utopia. (Note: I have not read Behemoth out, so I've got no clue if there is any reference to it in the book)book)
** {{Jossed}}. As of Behemoth, America uses a mix of Clanker and Darwin technology.
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* Honestly, look at the author's track record with the romance in his various books. {{Uglies}} and {{Midnighters}} being the [[MostTriumphantExample most triumphant examples]].

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* Honestly, look at the author's track record with the romance in his various books. {{Uglies}} and {{Midnighters}} being the [[MostTriumphantExample most triumphant examples]].examples]].

[[WMG: America is... (post your speculation on what America is like in the series here)]]
* This troper personally vouches for some sort of isolationist Zeerust utopia. (Note: I have not read Behemoth out, so I've got no clue if there is any reference to it in the book)
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[[WMG: WWII will be HORRIBLE.. Hitler (Or whoever wills his role) will use both sides's technology, and will not have qualms about messing about with Human DNA.]]

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[[WMG: WWII will be HORRIBLE.. Hitler (Or whoever wills his role) will use both sides's technology, and will not have qualms about messing about with Human DNA.]]]]

[[WMG: Alek and Deryn ''won't'' get together.]]
*Honestly, look at the author's track record with the romance in his various books. {{Uglies}} and {{Midnighters}} being the [[MostTriumphantExample most triumphant examples]].
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* The author notes in the Afterword that he wants the Automan Empire to stay together.

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* The author notes in the Afterword that he wants the Automan Empire to stay together.together.

[[WMG: WWII will be HORRIBLE.. Hitler (Or whoever wills his role) will use both sides's technology, and will not have qualms about messing about with Human DNA.]]
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[[WMG: The outcome of the war will be entirly different than it was in real history, with more a a truce than a beatdown.]]

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[[WMG: The outcome of the war will be entirly different than it was in real history, with more a a truce than a beatdown.]]]]
* The author notes in the Afterword that he wants the Automan Empire to stay together.
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Ummm, as the first random guess, I predict that Alek and Deryn will get together. This isn't very original, I know.

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Ummm, [[WMG:Ummm, as the first random guess, I predict that Alek and Deryn will get together. This isn't very original, I know.]]



The outcome of the war will be entirly different than it was in real history, with more a a truce than a beatdown.

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[[WMG: The outcome of the war will be entirly different than it was in real history, with more a a truce than a beatdown.]]
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Ummm, as the first random guess, I predict that Alek and Deryn will get together. This isn't very original, I know.

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Ummm, as the first random guess, I predict that Alek and Deryn will get together. This isn't very original, I know.
know.
* Would it be more of a WMG that Alek and Deryn ''don't'' get together?

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