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28th Oct '16 3:04:16 PM Technicolourtardis
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Keep in mind the rings are alive and are possessed with the will of the original bearers. And keep in mind, too, that they respond to the bearer's will. Xanxus's will, as we learn in the Future Arc, is for the Vongola to be as strong as possible- that is why Tsuna is the boss and not him. Xanxus tells Bel's brother this before their [[CurbStompBattle battle]]. If Xanxus's will was the same back then (as it most likely was under his rage), then he himself unintentionally and indirectly rejected the Sky Ring the moment he put it on. When the Half-Ring came into Tsuna's possession, the ring accepted him as its true owner because of aligning with Xanxus's will of building a strong Vongola, with its own will of rebuilding what Primo created with it, and Tsuna's own will to protect, which we learn was essentially Primo's will. The same will that the ring was first lit with. This kind of makes more sense than him not being a Vongola or Secondo's reincarnation, despite being almost identical to Ricardo.

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Keep in mind the rings are alive and are possessed with the will of the original bearers. And keep in mind, too, that they respond to the bearer's will. Xanxus's will, as we learn in the Future Arc, is for the Vongola to be as strong as possible- that is why Tsuna is the boss and not him. Xanxus tells Bel's brother this before their [[CurbStompBattle battle]]. If Xanxus's will was the same back then (as it most likely was under his rage), then he himself unintentionally and indirectly rejected the Sky Ring the moment he put it on. When the Half-Ring came into Tsuna's possession, the ring accepted him as its true owner because of aligning with Xanxus's will of building a strong Vongola, with its own will of rebuilding what Primo created with it, and Tsuna's own will to protect, which we learn was essentially Primo's will. The same will that the ring was first lit with. This kind of makes more sense than him not being a Vongola or Secondo's reincarnation, despite being almost identical to Ricardo.Ricardo.

[[WMG: TYL!Hibari ends up the head of CEDEF, just like Alaude.]]
It kind of makes sense, in a way. It would also explain why ''Hibari'' helps Tsuna and Shouichi in the future. Hibari, who supposedly never helps anyone on purpose according to Hibari himself. If he heads up CEDEF, it might make more sense, since Hibari would become Tsuna's second-in-command in those situations. It would also explain why he and Kusakabe consented to being part of an illusion trick of Chrome's, rather than Hibari's usual method of brute force. Hibari even repeatedly says he's not part of Tsuna's family (though he tones it down considerably as an adult to the point his base connects with theirs- he's more like a surly child whose siblings annoy him than anything). And the CEDEF isn't, except in times of crisis. Which, well, they were in.
28th Oct '16 2:44:05 PM Technicolourtardis
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** Well... [[spoiler: he totally did because his death was faked by Primo and himself, since Primo saw through Spade]]. Sooo....



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28th Oct '16 2:39:41 PM Technicolourtardis
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Basil is [[TheWorfEffect always beaten up to show how strong new foes are]], making it look like he couldn't do anything, but in the future he survives on his own with only a book and his Box Animal when there are long fights that take the main cast at least two chapters to beat a single opponent at the very least. Why does it seem like Basil is so weak? Because he only ever uses Dying Will Mode. He clearly has the skill to use Hyper Dying Will Mode, and the calm way he acts has probably led many of us to think he's in Hyper Dying Will Mode instead of normal DWM. If Basil ever actually got serious and went into Hyper Mode, he could probably go toe-to-toe with the strongest characters. Basil has the potential to be one of the strongest characters in the entire manga.

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Basil is [[TheWorfEffect always beaten up to show how strong new foes are]], making it look like he couldn't do anything, but in the future he survives on his own with only a book and his Box Animal when there are long fights that take the main cast at least two chapters to beat a single opponent at the very least. Why does it seem like Basil is so weak? Because he only ever uses Dying Will Mode. He clearly has the skill to use Hyper Dying Will Mode, and the calm way he acts has probably led many of us to think he's in Hyper Dying Will Mode instead of normal DWM. If Basil ever actually got serious and went into Hyper Mode, he could probably go toe-to-toe with the strongest characters. Basil has the potential to be one of the strongest characters in the entire manga.manga.

[[WMG: Xanxus actually has Vongola blood and was rejected by the ring for a different reason.]]
Keep in mind the rings are alive and are possessed with the will of the original bearers. And keep in mind, too, that they respond to the bearer's will. Xanxus's will, as we learn in the Future Arc, is for the Vongola to be as strong as possible- that is why Tsuna is the boss and not him. Xanxus tells Bel's brother this before their [[CurbStompBattle battle]]. If Xanxus's will was the same back then (as it most likely was under his rage), then he himself unintentionally and indirectly rejected the Sky Ring the moment he put it on. When the Half-Ring came into Tsuna's possession, the ring accepted him as its true owner because of aligning with Xanxus's will of building a strong Vongola, with its own will of rebuilding what Primo created with it, and Tsuna's own will to protect, which we learn was essentially Primo's will. The same will that the ring was first lit with. This kind of makes more sense than him not being a Vongola or Secondo's reincarnation, despite being almost identical to Ricardo.
5th May '16 4:53:18 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: Dying Will Bullets are full of [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Power]]]]

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[[WMG: Dying Will Bullets are full of [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Power]]]]
13th May '15 8:38:10 AM transparentanswer
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** Jossed because the message actually reached Primo.




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** Jossed?





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\n** Somehow jossed in the manga as Kikyo is the present day's cloud funeral wreath.




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**Jossed?




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** Jossed. They're different people.




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** Jossed. Official works shows both of them as the mist.
9th May '14 6:40:17 AM SeptimusHeap
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Pretty obvious. The rampant amount of HoYay, the ArtEvolution that turns up more and more Bishonen, the TheMessiah/ButtMonkey protagonist who's a LauncherOfAThousandShips, the StalkerWithACrush, an entire crime organisation called "Million Flowers" with everyone inside named after flowers as well, the cute babies and even cuter RidiculouslyCuteCritter. Basically a shojo manga with TournamentArc after TournamentArc.

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Pretty obvious. The rampant amount of HoYay, the ArtEvolution that turns up more and more Bishonen, the TheMessiah/ButtMonkey Messiah/ButtMonkey protagonist who's a LauncherOfAThousandShips, the StalkerWithACrush, an entire crime organisation called "Million Flowers" with everyone inside named after flowers as well, the cute babies and even cuter RidiculouslyCuteCritter. Basically a shojo manga with TournamentArc after TournamentArc.



** [[spoiler: This Arc's BigBad is Daemon Spade, the First Vongola Mist Guardian. In a nutshell, he manipulated the Shimon Famiglia into going against the tenth generation Vongola Famiglia (Tsuna & Co.) because he wanted Vongola to be the strongest. And because Tsuna is TheMessiah like Giotto was, he decided to eliminate the Tenth Gen.]]

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** [[spoiler: This Arc's BigBad is Daemon Spade, the First Vongola Mist Guardian. In a nutshell, he manipulated the Shimon Famiglia into going against the tenth generation Vongola Famiglia (Tsuna & Co.) because he wanted Vongola to be the strongest. And because Tsuna is TheMessiah a Messiah like Giotto was, he decided to eliminate the Tenth Gen.]]
1st Jan '14 11:17:16 PM ExarchofSechrima
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[[WMG: Counterpart to above, Xanxus is the REINCARNATION of Vongola Secondo.]]
In the same vein that Tsuna is more or less the reincarnation of Primo.
27th Nov '13 7:18:20 PM EnsembleSeahorse
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[[WMG: Xanxus' name is SignificantAnagram and Sdrawkcab Name to Tsuna]]

Not sure whether his mother named him Xanxus in the beginning but Xanxus' name without the X's and spelled backwards is the phonic romanji to "Suna" meaning "sand or grit." This can signify being loose, ever-shifting, maybe even a sign that the past has withered away. In contrast, the kanji "Tsuna" means "rope" that could mean creating strong bonds and holding things together.

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[[WMG: Xanxus' name is SignificantAnagram and Sdrawkcab Name SdrawkcabName to Tsuna]]

Not sure whether his mother named him Xanxus in the beginning or he had a different name before that, but Xanxus' name without the X's and spelled backwards is the phonic romanji to "Suna" meaning "sand or grit." This can signify being loose, ever-shifting, maybe even a sign that the past has withered away. In contrast, the kanji "Tsuna" means "rope" that could mean creating strong bonds and holding things together.
together. Although the name can also be an EmbarrassingFirstName since Suna is a Turkish girl's name that means either "swan" or "drake".
27th Nov '13 7:08:10 PM EnsembleSeahorse
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* If that is a possible case, it could also explain Xanxus looking like Secondo and that all the crimes Secondo committed in his previous life pasted on to Xanxus in terms of never being able to inherit the boss title, or a corrected GenerationXerox where the possible role of Ricardo being just a powerful subordinate to his relative Giotto.

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* If that is a possible case, it could also explain Xanxus looking like Secondo and that all the crimes Secondo committed in his previous life pasted on to passed onto Xanxus in terms of never being able to inherit the boss title, or a corrected GenerationXerox where the possible role of Ricardo being just a powerful subordinate to his relative Giotto.
Giotto.

[[WMG: Xanxus' name is SignificantAnagram and Sdrawkcab Name to Tsuna]]

Not sure whether his mother named him Xanxus in the beginning but Xanxus' name without the X's and spelled backwards is the phonic romanji to "Suna" meaning "sand or grit." This can signify being loose, ever-shifting, maybe even a sign that the past has withered away. In contrast, the kanji "Tsuna" means "rope" that could mean creating strong bonds and holding things together.
27th Nov '13 6:48:08 PM EnsembleSeahorse
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An expansion of the above point. Not only does Tsuna share an UncannyFamilyResemblance with Primo, but Yamamoto also appears to look exactly the same as the first Vongola rain guarding (their similarities is even lampshaded by Reborn). In addition, every single guardian is supposed to use weapons based on the ones used by their first generation counterparts. Finally this manga is called [[MeaningfulName Reborn]] and features gun-toting infants and pacifiers that are ArtifactofDoom so anything is possible...

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An expansion of the above point. Not only does Tsuna share an UncannyFamilyResemblance with Primo, but Yamamoto also appears to look exactly the same as the first Vongola rain guarding (their similarities is even lampshaded by Reborn). In addition, every single guardian is supposed to use weapons based on the ones used by their first generation counterparts. Finally this manga is called [[MeaningfulName Reborn]] and features gun-toting infants and pacifiers that are ArtifactofDoom ArtifactOfDoom so anything is possible...




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* If that is a possible case, it could also explain Xanxus looking like Secondo and that all the crimes Secondo committed in his previous life pasted on to Xanxus in terms of never being able to inherit the boss title, or a corrected GenerationXerox where the possible role of Ricardo being just a powerful subordinate to his relative Giotto.
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