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29th Jun '16 12:05:50 AM despoa
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This is the only way to explain why he has the Joestar birthmark in the first place. As far as we know, there hasn't been someone like Dio to steal a Joestar's body or blood and pass the on Joestar birthmark nor are there other supernatural beings like Green Baby to make the birthmark magically appear on others.

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This is the only way to explain why he has the Joestar birthmark in the first place. As far as we know, there hasn't been someone like Dio to steal a Joestar's body or blood and pass the on Joestar birthmark nor are there other supernatural beings like Green Baby to make the birthmark magically appear on others.
others. This should also explain why he isn't in Higashikata's records of the Joestar family tree.

In addition, Josefumi doesn't seem to mention having a father of any sort in the manga so far and is generally treated by his mother like a bastard back then would be, with little care.
26th Jun '16 1:24:58 PM sgamer82
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* It's implied [[spoiler:Cato is a fusion due to her split pupils]] and may have taken that from her through equivalent exchange. I'm also willing to bet that [[spoiler:Cato possibly [[KillAndReplace combined with Josefumi's mother.]]]]

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* It's implied [[spoiler:Cato is a fusion due to her split pupils]] and may have taken that from her through equivalent exchange. I'm also willing to bet that [[spoiler:Cato possibly [[KillAndReplace combined with Josefumi's mother.]]]]]]]]

[[WMG: Joseph located baby Shizuka via unconscious use of Hermit Purple]]

* What looked like Joseph wandering off in a moment of senility was actually Hermit Purple guiding Joseph to where Achtung Baby was crawling around just in time to save her from dog attack.
21st Jun '16 7:56:23 PM gewunomox
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[[WMG: The design of Dio's The World is a sneaky reference to the RonnieJamesDio song "Holy Diver".]]

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[[WMG: The design of Dio's The World is a sneaky reference to the RonnieJamesDio Music/RonnieJamesDio song "Holy Diver".]]
21st Jun '16 8:57:00 AM LucianTheLugia
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** Double bonus: as a wildcard guess that probably isn't right, there's a possibility of it being Kyo Nijimura. We are led to believe that she doesn't want Josuke going near [[spoiler:her mother]] out of concern for her, but that might not be the real reason. She could just not want either of them interfering in her plans, but [[spoiler:due to the fact that they are both related to her]], she was soft on them in terms of the methods she used to neutralize them. It's perfectly possible that [[spoiler:Kira suddenly realized her connection to the Rokakaka nonsense during the fight on the boat,]] in a way he was unable to communicate to [[spoiler:Josefumi]] before he died. Her stand has been revealed, but it as it can attack when things are "opened", maybe it has a secondary effect when someone discovers a secret (which is often metaphorically compared to opening something- reopening a legal case on new evidence, "letting the cat out of the bag", etc). Alternatively, she used a lackey to remove their memories. Her fake name and job give her the opportunity to spy on the Higashikatas (who she admits to hating), and apparently enough time to run around doing other things outside the house without attracting suspicion. In [[spoiler:Tamaki's arc, Nijimura is the first to supposedly be affected by his stand,]] but it's possible he is completely unaware of his boss's identity, in a callback to Diavolo.

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** Double bonus: as a wildcard guess that probably isn't right, there's a possibility of it being Kyo Nijimura. We are led to believe that she doesn't want Josuke going near [[spoiler:her mother]] out of concern for her, but that might not be the real reason. She could just not want either of them interfering in her plans, but [[spoiler:due to the fact that they are both related to her]], she was soft on them in terms of the methods she used to neutralize them. It's perfectly possible that [[spoiler:Kira suddenly realized her connection to the Rokakaka nonsense during the fight on the boat,]] in a way he was unable to communicate to [[spoiler:Josefumi]] before he died. Her stand has been revealed, but it as it can attack when things are "opened", maybe it has a secondary effect when someone discovers a secret (which is often metaphorically compared to opening something- reopening a legal case on new evidence, "letting the cat out of the bag", etc). Alternatively, she used a lackey to remove their memories. Her fake name and job give her the opportunity to spy on the Higashikatas (who she admits to hating), and apparently enough time to run around doing other things outside the house without attracting suspicion. In [[spoiler:Tamaki's arc, Nijimura is the first to supposedly be affected by his stand,]] but it's possible he is completely unaware of his boss's identity, in a callback to Diavolo.Diavolo.

[[WMG:[[spoiler:Cato is the reason for Holly's memory loss.]]]]

*It's implied [[spoiler:Cato is a fusion due to her split pupils]] and may have taken that from her through equivalent exchange. I'm also willing to bet that [[spoiler:Cato possibly [[KillAndReplace combined with Josefumi's mother.]]]]
18th Jun '16 6:29:19 AM LucianTheLugia
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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Norisuke will die from Damo's Stand in Chapter 55.]] ]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Norisuke Norisuke will die from Damo's Stand in Chapter 55.]] ]]
Jossed! Everyone attacked by Vitamin C ended up okay. (even Joshuu)
10th Jun '16 8:24:41 PM NineballCirno
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** Supported by Jo2uke having the same Dark Will in his eyes like Johnny.

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** Supported by Jo2uke [=Jo2uke=] having the same Dark Will in his eyes like Johnny.



* Similar to the above, Jo2uke's DNA is a mix between Kira and the corpse of the man who saved Josuke's life in Part 4, or the AU equivalent.

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* Similar to the above, Jo2uke's [=Jo2uke=]'s DNA is a mix between Kira and the corpse of the man who saved Josuke's life in Part 4, or the AU equivalent.



** It wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility for Kakyoin to be related to the Zepellis: Caesar had many siblings, so one of them could've married a Japanese person and have a child who would go on to have Kakyoin. That Kakyoin often travelled abroad with his family (he had gone to Egypt before the start of Part 3) makes this all the more probable. In addition, consider [[VideoGame/JoJosBizareAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighter]]. While Avdol and Iggy both survived in their endings when they died in the manga, Kakyoin ('''both versions''' of him) ultimately died in their endings. Definitely echoes of the Zepellis' curse: helping another at the cost of their own life...

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** It wouldn't be completely out of the realm of possibility for Kakyoin to be related to the Zepellis: Caesar had many siblings, so one of them could've married a Japanese person and have a child who would go on to have Kakyoin. That Kakyoin often travelled abroad with his family (he had gone to Egypt before the start of Part 3) makes this all the more probable. In addition, consider [[VideoGame/JoJosBizareAdventureHeritageForTheFuture [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighter]]. While Avdol and Iggy both survived in their endings when they died in the manga, Kakyoin ('''both versions''' of him) ultimately died in their endings. Definitely echoes of the Zepellis' curse: helping another at the cost of their own life...



[[IDontCareIfItsStupid Because what's the alternative ?]] [[IWantItToBeRealDammit That it's only some artistic license from Araki's side ?]] [[StopCrushingMyDreams Don't be ridiculous !]]

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[[IDontCareIfItsStupid Because what's the alternative ?]] [[IWantItToBeRealDammit ? That it's only some artistic license from Araki's side ?]] [[StopCrushingMyDreams ? Don't be ridiculous !]]!



Can also be considered a TearJerker. We know that he is part-Kira and part-someone else. As with the lemon and tangerine, Kira and another person switched some qualities, probably ranging from age to memories to looks. Jo2uke is, what, 19? He looks really young, basically. He's a bit of a Cloud Cuckoolander, but he's very intelligent. He does not have his memories, though. It has been established that the Wall Eyes switch, transfer, exchange qualities, probably not even equally.

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Can also be considered a TearJerker. We know that he is part-Kira and part-someone else. As with the lemon and tangerine, Kira and another person switched some qualities, probably ranging from age to memories to looks. Jo2uke [=Jo2uke=] is, what, 19? He looks really young, basically. He's a bit of a Cloud Cuckoolander, but he's very intelligent. He does not have his memories, though. It has been established that the Wall Eyes switch, transfer, exchange qualities, probably not even equally.
1st Jun '16 4:25:16 AM ObsequiousJoey
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** Double bonus: as a wildcard guess that probably isn't right, there's a possibility of it being Kyo Nijimura. We are led to believe that she doesn't want Josuke going near [[spoiler:her mother]] out of concern for her, but that might not be the real reason. She could just not want either of them interfering in her plans, but [[due to the fact that they are both related to her]], she was soft on them in terms of the methods she used to neutralize them. It's perfectly possible that [[spoiler:Kira suddenly realized her connection to the Rokakaka nonsense during the fight on the boat,]] in a way he was unable to communicate to [[spoiler:Josefumi]] before he died. Her stand has been revealed, but it as it can attack when things are "opened", maybe it has a secondary effect when someone discovers a secret (which is often metaphorically compared to opening something- reopening a legal case on new evidence, "letting the cat out of the bag", etc). Alternatively, she used a lackey to remove their memories. Her fake name and job give her the opportunity to spy on the Higashikatas (who she admits to hating), and apparently enough time to run around doing other things outside the house without attracting suspicion. In [[spoiler:Tamaki's arc, Nijimura is the first to supposedly be affected by his stand,]] but it's possible he is completely unaware of his boss's identity, in a callback to Diavolo.

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** Double bonus: as a wildcard guess that probably isn't right, there's a possibility of it being Kyo Nijimura. We are led to believe that she doesn't want Josuke going near [[spoiler:her mother]] out of concern for her, but that might not be the real reason. She could just not want either of them interfering in her plans, but [[due [[spoiler:due to the fact that they are both related to her]], she was soft on them in terms of the methods she used to neutralize them. It's perfectly possible that [[spoiler:Kira suddenly realized her connection to the Rokakaka nonsense during the fight on the boat,]] in a way he was unable to communicate to [[spoiler:Josefumi]] before he died. Her stand has been revealed, but it as it can attack when things are "opened", maybe it has a secondary effect when someone discovers a secret (which is often metaphorically compared to opening something- reopening a legal case on new evidence, "letting the cat out of the bag", etc). Alternatively, she used a lackey to remove their memories. Her fake name and job give her the opportunity to spy on the Higashikatas (who she admits to hating), and apparently enough time to run around doing other things outside the house without attracting suspicion. In [[spoiler:Tamaki's arc, Nijimura is the first to supposedly be affected by his stand,]] but it's possible he is completely unaware of his boss's identity, in a callback to Diavolo.
1st Jun '16 4:24:01 AM ObsequiousJoey
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** The third and final opening will appear starting at the Atom Heart Father mini-arc but will be a different opening entirely except the silhouette sequence. Like the second Stardust Crusaders opening it will build up the final battle and similar to the Egyptian God Stand user sequence in the SC opening, there will be a sequence showcasing the enemy Stand users in the final part of DiU. The most noticeable difference however will be that during the silhouette sequence [[spoiler: Kira's silhouette will disappear but Kawajiri's will remain.]] In the sound version all of the silhouettes will be fully colored, [[spoiler: there will be hints at Rohan and Okuyasu's deaths at the hands of Another Bites the Dust, and at the end of the opening the entire opening will rewind and even rewind through the previous opening ending on the first frame of that opening.]]

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** The third and final opening will appear starting at the Atom Heart Father mini-arc but will be a different opening entirely except the silhouette sequence. Like the second Stardust Crusaders opening it will build up the final battle and similar to the Egyptian God Stand user sequence in the SC opening, there will be a sequence showcasing the enemy Stand users in the final part of DiU. The most noticeable difference however will be that during the silhouette sequence [[spoiler: Kira's silhouette will disappear but Kawajiri's will remain.]] In the sound version all of the silhouettes will be fully colored, [[spoiler: there will be hints at Rohan and Okuyasu's deaths at the hands of Another Bites the Dust, and at the end of the opening the entire opening will rewind and even rewind through the previous opening ending on the first frame of that opening.]]]]

[[WMG:More Part 8 BigBad guesses]]
*To begin with something conservative: the BigBad is the leader of the [[spoiler:group that is dealing in the Rokakaka fruits (as in, the boss of Yotsuyu, Tamaki, Aishou and the A.Phex brothers)]]. He or she has yet to appear, but will do so soon. That they haven't been alluded to yet is consistent with the fact that the main antagonists of Parts 4, 6 and 7 were given no mention until about halfway through their respective Parts. Their ultimate aim with regard to the Rokakaka business is something much larger than a moneymaking enterprise, which the boss's lackeys are likely unaware of. They have some association with the Higashikata family, either as a rival or a member. If it is a character who has already been introduced, then [[spoiler:Jobin]] is the most likely candidate, but all signs point towards him being involved peripherally as either a mole or a genuine villain who will seek redemption (possibly through death).
** Bonus: this person is probably responsible for [[spoiler:removing Holy's memories]], and did so because she could have interfered with their plans in some way. Because they did this instead of simply killing her, the person could have some sort of code of ethics and distaste for murder. Perhaps (if it wasn't just a natural side-effect of what happened) they also removed Josuke's memories after finding him buried at the Wall Eyes, then left the scene. They may become more violent when Josuke discovers them, solely because their usual method of neutralizing threats did not work on him.
** Double bonus: as a wildcard guess that probably isn't right, there's a possibility of it being Kyo Nijimura. We are led to believe that she doesn't want Josuke going near [[spoiler:her mother]] out of concern for her, but that might not be the real reason. She could just not want either of them interfering in her plans, but [[due to the fact that they are both related to her]], she was soft on them in terms of the methods she used to neutralize them. It's perfectly possible that [[spoiler:Kira suddenly realized her connection to the Rokakaka nonsense during the fight on the boat,]] in a way he was unable to communicate to [[spoiler:Josefumi]] before he died. Her stand has been revealed, but it as it can attack when things are "opened", maybe it has a secondary effect when someone discovers a secret (which is often metaphorically compared to opening something- reopening a legal case on new evidence, "letting the cat out of the bag", etc). Alternatively, she used a lackey to remove their memories. Her fake name and job give her the opportunity to spy on the Higashikatas (who she admits to hating), and apparently enough time to run around doing other things outside the house without attracting suspicion. In [[spoiler:Tamaki's arc, Nijimura is the first to supposedly be affected by his stand,]] but it's possible he is completely unaware of his boss's identity, in a callback to Diavolo.
30th May '16 9:43:29 PM IMAGINEZapper
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This is the only way to explain why he has the Joestar birthmark in the first place. As far as we know, there hasn't been someone like Dio to steal a Joestar's body or blood and pass the on Joestar birthmark nor are there other supernatural beings like Green Baby to make the birthmark magically appear on others.

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This is the only way to explain why he has the Joestar birthmark in the first place. As far as we know, there hasn't been someone like Dio to steal a Joestar's body or blood and pass the on Joestar birthmark nor are there other supernatural beings like Green Baby to make the birthmark magically appear on others.others.

[[WMG: Diamond is Unbreakable Opening Predictions]]
Seeing as how a possible new opening for Part 4 has been leaked on to the Internet, there is a possibility of an opening change occurring soon. This might be how the openings will play out for the rest of the Diamond is Unbreakable anime.
** Going off of the prediction above, each opening will begin with the silhouette sequence from the first opening. In the sound version of each opening the silhouettes of characters that have been introduced thus far will be fully colored (ex. Josuke, Okuyasu and Jotaro in the first OP).
** The sound version of the first opening will play during the Red Hot Chilli-Pepper mini-arc. In addition to the sound effects [[spoiler: Red Hot Chilli Pepper will appear in various parts of the opening such as the part with Okuyasu looking at Keicho's shadow alluding to Otoishi using RHCP to kill Keicho and Okuyasu with The Hand foreshadowing RHCP nearly killing Okuyasu in the battle.]]
** There will be a second opening after the Red Hot Chilli Pepper or Achutang Baby mini-arc. The second opening will have the theme that was leaked. However it will only be a longer version of the first opening with a different song, a few small edits (Echoes Act 2, some silhouettes being fully colored), a few scenes added for Rohan, and some small hints foreshadowing the appearance of Kira. The sound version of this opening will play during the Sheer Heart Attack mini-arc and like the first sound opening it will [[spoiler: have Sheer Heart Attack appear in parts of the opening and the sound version will formally introduce Kira as the antagonist.]]
** The third and final opening will appear starting at the Atom Heart Father mini-arc but will be a different opening entirely except the silhouette sequence. Like the second Stardust Crusaders opening it will build up the final battle and similar to the Egyptian God Stand user sequence in the SC opening, there will be a sequence showcasing the enemy Stand users in the final part of DiU. The most noticeable difference however will be that during the silhouette sequence [[spoiler: Kira's silhouette will disappear but Kawajiri's will remain.]] In the sound version all of the silhouettes will be fully colored, [[spoiler: there will be hints at Rohan and Okuyasu's deaths at the hands of Another Bites the Dust, and at the end of the opening the entire opening will rewind and even rewind through the previous opening ending on the first frame of that opening.]]
22nd May '16 6:56:21 PM IMAGINEZapper
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*** The WhamEpisode opening for Part 6 might also [[spoiler: fast forward through the previous openings and then play the Part 6 opening but at the end it will rewind the Part 6 opening and the previous openings until the beginning of the first opening which will CallBack to the protagonist roll call that began with Jolyne.]]
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