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[WMG: The "[[Series/ThePrisoner1967 Village]]" is really a trial run of the dreamscape.]]

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[WMG: [[WMG: The "[[Series/ThePrisoner1967 Village]]" is really a trial run of the dreamscape.]]
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Now that Cobb has implanted the idea of Mr. Charles, head of subconscious security, into Fischer's mind, Fischer will subconsciously create a real Mr. Charles if his mind is ever threatened again as one of his defensive projections. This projection will still look like Leonardo DiCaprio.

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Now that Cobb has implanted the idea of Mr. Charles, head of subconscious security, into Fischer's mind, Fischer will subconsciously create a real Mr. Charles if his mind is ever threatened again as one of his defensive projections. This projection will still look like Leonardo DiCaprio.DiCaprio.

[WMG: The "[[Series/ThePrisoner1967 Village]]" is really a trial run of the dreamscape.]]
Cobb and company showed that the dreamscape can have many levels. The tech was "supposedly" made for the military to train soldiers. What if it was really used as an interrogation technique? TheSixties and TheSeventies were a time when every intel agency was trying any wacky UsefulNotes/ColdWar scheme to "brainwash" operatives. They tried with the huge room-filling computers and punch cards of the era. Number 6 was just too good. Each Number "2" was an attempt at what would be latter called Extraction or [[TitleDrop Inception]]. They just thought they could break Number 6, but they didn't know he was controlling the dream. They wrote it off when Number 6 decided to stay in the dream - that's why "Fallout" is so trippy - he took over the dream.
Latter on they tried the tech for other things and then it caught on: computers got smaller and researchers like Cobb got the idea to have someone else direct the dream.
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** At the end will Ellen Page fall in love with a huge gross nerdy guy?

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** At the end will Ellen Elliot Page fall in love with a huge gross nerdy guy?



[[WMG: Ellen Page's Character in ''the Mirror'' SNL Digital Short is Ariadne in a recursive dream]]

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[[WMG: Ellen Elliot Page's Character in ''the Mirror'' SNL Digital Short is Ariadne in a recursive dream]]



** Ellen Page and Marion Cottiard look alike to you?

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** Ellen Elliot Page and Marion Cottiard look alike to you?
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* The top is not Cobbs totem, it's just [[spoiler: a way to check for Mals presence since it spins infinitely if shes around.]] Additionally Cobbs real totem is [[spoiler: his wedding ring, or lack there of. Nobody else could ever know how it feels to have worn a ring of that specific weight so long only to remove it and thus can't replicate the feeling. If he's wearing the ring hes in a dream, of his hand feels off he's in a drea.]] A very clever move indeed.
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[[WMG: Arthur thought [[spoiler: Dom killed Mal after she died.]]]]
In the movie, Dom thanks Ariadne for not asking if he killed his wife, implying that he'd been asked this before. This could've been asked by Arthur, which could be a reason why Dom would rather talk about his dead wife trauma affecting the job to Ariadne (who didn't openly question his innocence) than Arthur (even though he knew and liked Mal).
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* Keep in mind that Cobb's totem used to belong to '''Mal'''. He only made a guess as to how it worked, assuming she never told him how. Mal must've been convinced that she was dreaming after she realized that either (a: her totem suddenly worked differently, (b: manipulated the dream world using lucid dreaming techniques, or (c: noticed everyone else staring at her.

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* Keep in mind that Cobb's totem used to belong to '''Mal'''. He only made a guess as to how it worked, assuming she never told him how. Mal must've been convinced that she was dreaming after she realized that either (a: her totem suddenly worked differently, (b: or it ''did'' work, (c: manipulated the dream world using lucid dreaming techniques, or (c: (d: noticed everyone else staring at her.
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* Keep In mind that Cobb's totemalso used to be '''Mal's''' totem. He only made a guess as to how it worked, assuming she never told him how. Mal must've been convinced that she was dreaming after she realized that either (a her totem suddenly worked differently, (b manipulated the dream world using lucid dreaming techniques, or (c noticed everyone else staring at her.

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* Keep In in mind that Cobb's totemalso totem used to be '''Mal's''' totem.belong to '''Mal'''. He only made a guess as to how it worked, assuming she never told him how. Mal must've been convinced that she was dreaming after she realized that either (a (a: her totem suddenly worked differently, (b (b: manipulated the dream world using lucid dreaming techniques, or (c (c: noticed everyone else staring at her.
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* Keep In mind that Cobb's totemalso used to be '''Mal's''' totem. He only made a guess as to how it worked, assuming she never told him how. Mal must've been convinced that she was dreaming after she realized that either (a her totem suddenly worked differently, (b manipulated the dream world using lucid dreaming techniques, or (c noticed everyone else staring at her.
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He incepted the idea of him being deserving of winning an Oscar into the vast majority of humans. Christopher Nolan is in on the con and they used the movie to perform the inception.

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He incepted the idea of him being deserving of winning an Oscar into the vast majority of humans. Christopher Nolan is in on the con and they used the movie to perform the inception.inception.

[[WMG: Next time someone enters Fischer's mind, he will generate a Mr. Charles projection to defend it]]
Now that Cobb has implanted the idea of Mr. Charles, head of subconscious security, into Fischer's mind, Fischer will subconsciously create a real Mr. Charles if his mind is ever threatened again as one of his defensive projections. This projection will still look like Leonardo DiCaprio.
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So here's what I'm thinking. What we are looking at is a heavily altered plot destined for part of the Dark Knight Trilogy, with the focus changed to the {{Villain Protagonist}}, Dr. Hugo Strange. In Inception, Cobb is trying to stop a man from maintaining his father's legacy/global empire. In the original version, it was Hugo Strange mounting a full on assault on Bruce Wayne's psyche, trying to stop him from continuing as Batman, so that Strange could take over. Bruce's psyche is extremely dangerous though. Training From the League of Assassins has allowed him to weaponize his subconscious, meaning that Strange and his team (probably sparser in the original story) are facing armed gunmen. Since they aren't actually going to kill the team, I think it's reasonable to assume they could be in Batman's mind, although they might have been ninjas in the original, given how he hates guns. At the ending, instead of [[spoiler: his dying father persuading Fischer to abandon the conglomeration]], the vault would have contained Bruce's dying parents, begging him to abandon his quest of justice. And of course, you'd think Batman's falling for it, until he disappears/grabs the dying pair and begins going full Batman on the pair [[spoiler: of shapeshifting imposters, with Strange playing his father]], because you think he's been falling for it, but he's realized this is a psychic attack for a good part of the movie. The studios rejected this plot as part 3 of the Dark Knight Trilogy as just being too abstract and wild, but let Nolan use it for a different movie he wanted to make. I have no evidence for this whatsoever, and there's a good chance that Nolan came up with the story for Inception long before he Knew he'd get to make the Dark Knight series. That said, the fact that Inception is about a psychologically based full on assault on an unexpectedly (and seemingly impossibly) prepared multi-billionaire suggests that maybe, just maybe, the whole story was originally proposed as a finale for {{Film/The Dark Knight Saga}}, and the only way Nolan would get to make the move he wanted was to claim that the idea was older than reality, to avoid plagiarism claims (apparently the idea was used in an old Uncle Scrooge comic book, seriously).

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So here's what I'm thinking. What we are looking at is a heavily altered plot destined for part of the Dark Knight Trilogy, with the focus changed to the {{Villain Protagonist}}, Dr. Hugo Strange. In Inception, Cobb is trying to stop a man from maintaining his father's legacy/global empire. In the original version, it was Hugo Strange mounting a full on assault on Bruce Wayne's psyche, trying to stop him from continuing as Batman, so that Strange could take over. Bruce's psyche is extremely dangerous though. Training From the League of Assassins has allowed him to weaponize his subconscious, meaning that Strange and his team (probably sparser in the original story) are facing armed gunmen. Since they aren't actually going to kill the team, I think it's reasonable to assume they could be in Batman's mind, although they might have been ninjas in the original, given how he hates guns. At the ending, instead of [[spoiler: his dying father persuading Fischer to abandon the conglomeration]], the vault would have contained Bruce's dying parents, begging him to abandon his quest of justice. And of course, you'd think Batman's falling for it, until he disappears/grabs the dying pair and begins going full Batman on the pair [[spoiler: of shapeshifting imposters, with Strange playing his father]], because you think he's been falling for it, but he's realized this is a psychic attack for a good part of the movie. The studios rejected this plot as part 3 of the Dark Knight Trilogy as just being too abstract and wild, but let Nolan use it for a different movie he wanted to make. I have no evidence for this whatsoever, and there's a good chance that Nolan came up with the story for Inception long before he Knew he'd get to make the Dark Knight series. That said, the fact that Inception is about a psychologically based full on assault on an unexpectedly (and seemingly impossibly) prepared multi-billionaire suggests that maybe, just maybe, the whole story was originally proposed as a finale for {{Film/The Dark Knight Saga}}, Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy, and the only way Nolan would get to make the move he wanted was to claim that the idea was older than reality, to avoid plagiarism claims (apparently the idea was used in an old Uncle Scrooge comic book, seriously).
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[[WMG: Robert Fischer would become [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Jonathan Crane]].]]

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[[WMG: Robert Fischer would become [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy Jonathan Crane]].]]



* Alternately, ''Inception'' takes place in the 8 years between, or prior to ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.

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* Alternately, ''Inception'' takes place in the 8 years between, or prior to ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''.''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy''.
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As discussed in the ItJustBugsMe section, the "Arthur has a couple of minutes" was actually exaggerating how much time he had. He actually came up with the zero-gravity kick in less time than that. And let's not forgot the major beat-down he laid on all of Fischer's security throughout the hotel level. So, brilliant tactician and intimidating combatant in a movie directed by Creator/ChristopherNolan? Obviously Batman. He's probably training himself in dream technology in case he ever has to use it to save Gotham or someone tries to use it against him.

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As discussed in the ItJustBugsMe Headscratchers section, the "Arthur has a couple of minutes" was actually exaggerating how much time he had. He actually came up with the zero-gravity kick in less time than that. And let's not forgot the major beat-down he laid on all of Fischer's security throughout the hotel level. So, brilliant tactician and intimidating combatant in a movie directed by Creator/ChristopherNolan? Obviously Batman. He's probably training himself in dream technology in case he ever has to use it to save Gotham or someone tries to use it against him.
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** The events of the day after the party probably resembled those of TheHangover closely. This troper would now like to see TheHangover remade with the actors and characters from Inception.

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** The events of the day after the party probably resembled those of TheHangover ''Film/TheHangover'' closely. This troper would now like to see TheHangover ''The Hangover'' remade with the actors and characters from Inception.
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This is because he is a dream of Mike, and is Jowee (you know, from DrawnToLife?) after some mental twisting. Mal, who is really Mari, also went through some mind twisting, but still knew she was in a dream. She killed herself because she didn't know she was a dream as well. Miles is also Miles from Drawn to Life, and may or may not know about him. I'm not sure about the other characters, other then that Mike is one of the few (if not the only) real people in the movie, and Wilfre was behind the Mental twisting.

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This is because he is a dream of Mike, and is Jowee (you know, from DrawnToLife?) ''VideoGame/DrawnToLife''?) after some mental twisting. Mal, who is really Mari, also went through some mind twisting, but still knew she was in a dream. She killed herself because she didn't know she was a dream as well. Miles is also Miles from Drawn to Life, and may or may not know about him. I'm not sure about the other characters, other then that Mike is one of the few (if not the only) real people in the movie, and Wilfre was behind the Mental twisting.
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[[WMG: The ending of {{Ico}} takes place in Limbo.]]

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[[WMG: The ending of {{Ico}} ''VideoGame/{{Ico}}'' takes place in Limbo.]]
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[[WMG: Cobb will later take a trip to [[EternalSunshineOfTheSpotlessMind Lacuna, Inc.]]]]

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[[WMG: Cobb will later take a trip to [[EternalSunshineOfTheSpotlessMind [[Film/EternalSunshineOfTheSpotlessMind Lacuna, Inc.]]]]
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[[WMG: Inception and WilliamGibson's The Sprawl trilogy are in the same universe]]

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[[WMG: Inception and WilliamGibson's The Sprawl trilogy Creator/WilliamGibson's Literature/SprawlTrilogy are in the same universe]]
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[[WMG: Inception is set in the same world as [[RogerZelazny Roger Zelanzy's]] The Dream Shaper/He Who Shapes]]

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[[WMG: Inception is set in the same world as [[RogerZelazny Roger Zelanzy's]] Creator/RogerZelazny's The Dream Shaper/He Who Shapes]]
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** This explanation is more or less the one that The Last Psychiatrist goes for in his blog. In essence, the movie ''is not actually about what is the dream and what is not.'' The entire narrative attempts to confuse you, right out to the last scenes, about what is the dream and what is real. That's because whether Cobb is dreaming or not is actually irrelevant: the narrative is actually about '''catharsis,''' about the fact that Cobb has been able to move on from his wife's death - whether he moves on by just falling completely into the dream or waking up, the result was the same: he let her go. The entire point of the inception mission was to plant a cathartic last confrontation in Fischer's mind ''that did not actually happen in reality.'' Fischer then begins to act on that catharsis nonetheless. Whether Fischer actually had the experience that caused the catharsis or not is irrelevant, i.e. reality itself does not matter - the mission was accomplished. Same thing goes for Cobb: he had a cathartic confrontation with Mal that never occurred in reality, but he still acted upon it by choosing to change how he behaved. He still got his catharsis.
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[[WMG: The real world (level 0) of ''{{Inception}}'' is the dream world of ''Film/TheMatrix''.]]
The machines of ''Film/TheMatrix'' found that once they were able to instill a convincing dream-world within a large population of human drones, to instill additional layers of dreams is a simple matter of applying the basic dreaming process recursively. The original vision of ''Film/TheMatrix'' was that the machines utilize collective human brainpower to create a massive supercomputer distributed among many billion "nodes", i.e. human minds -- not that they harvested humans for their energy output, as Morpheus explains in the film. As Cobb explained in ''{{Inception}}'', when we dream, we use our brainpower more fully. The machines realized the advantages of this for their purposes and began to provide people with some degree of control over this process, with the one restriction that they cannot wake up from the Matrix without Matrix-external assistance. With even a small handful of people delving deeply through successive dream layers, those individuals' computational power increased by many orders of magnitude -- ten people manipulating their own dreams have the computational power of ten '''''billion''''' people who never go further than level 1.

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[[WMG: The real world (level 0) of ''{{Inception}}'' ''Film/{{Inception}}'' is the dream world of ''Film/TheMatrix''.]]
The machines of ''Film/TheMatrix'' found that once they were able to instill a convincing dream-world within a large population of human drones, to instill additional layers of dreams is a simple matter of applying the basic dreaming process recursively. The original vision of ''Film/TheMatrix'' was that the machines utilize collective human brainpower to create a massive supercomputer distributed among many billion "nodes", i.e. human minds -- not that they harvested humans for their energy output, as Morpheus explains in the film. As Cobb explained in ''{{Inception}}'', ''Film/{{Inception}}'', when we dream, we use our brainpower more fully. The machines realized the advantages of this for their purposes and began to provide people with some degree of control over this process, with the one restriction that they cannot wake up from the Matrix without Matrix-external assistance. With even a small handful of people delving deeply through successive dream layers, those individuals' computational power increased by many orders of magnitude -- ten people manipulating their own dreams have the computational power of ten '''''billion''''' people who never go further than level 1.



[[WMG: {{Inception}} takes place in the same world as Franchise/SilentHill, and it's actually an insane asylum.]]

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[[WMG: {{Inception}} Film/{{Inception}} takes place in the same world as Franchise/SilentHill, and it's actually an insane asylum.]]



[[WMG: {{Inception}} is the TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture Best End of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptzb_s83jdU Alice Human Sacrifice]]]]

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[[WMG: {{Inception}} Film/{{Inception}} is the TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture Best End of [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptzb_s83jdU Alice Human Sacrifice]]]]



[[WMG: All of Leonardo [=DiCaprio=]'s non-{{Inception}} roles are his Dominic Cobb character being part of an Inception.]]

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[[WMG: All of Leonardo [=DiCaprio=]'s non-{{Inception}} non-Film/{{Inception}} roles are his Dominic Cobb character being part of an Inception.]]
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[[WMG: Mal is basically [[SilentHill Pyramid Head]].]]

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[[WMG: Mal is basically [[SilentHill [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 Pyramid Head]].]]



[[WMG: {{Inception}} takes place in the same world as SilentHill, and it's actually an insane asylum.]]

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[[WMG: {{Inception}} takes place in the same world as SilentHill, Franchise/SilentHill, and it's actually an insane asylum.]]
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* You might want to read some Creator/PhilipKDick (anything from ''VALIS'' on) and Creator/GrantMorrison's ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles'' if you want your head messed with some more.

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* You might want to read some Creator/PhilipKDick (anything from ''VALIS'' ''Literature/{{VALIS}}'' on) and Creator/GrantMorrison's ''ComicBook/TheInvisibles'' if you want your head messed with some more.
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Because [[{{Instrumentality}} a shared dream world where you can warp reality, changing the way people think]], a collapsed civilization, and randomly waking up on abandoned beaches doesn't leave a lot of room for other explanations.

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Because [[{{Instrumentality}} [[AssimilationPlot a shared dream world where you can warp reality, changing the way people think]], a collapsed civilization, and randomly waking up on abandoned beaches doesn't leave a lot of room for other explanations.
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[[WMG: Leonardo DiCapriowon his Oscar through inception]]

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[[WMG: Leonardo DiCapriowon DiCaprio won his Oscar through inception]]
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[[WMG: Leonardo DiCaprio never won his Oscar through inception]]

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[[WMG: Leonardo DiCaprio never won DiCapriowon his Oscar through inception]]

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For those who don't get why the guy wouldn't just give Cobb a cup of coffee: it could be possible the reason why the guy is arguing with Cobb is because he's not a waiter, he's a customer and Cobb is in his seat at the table. It'd be like going out to a restaurant with friends, going to the restroom and coming back to find a stranger sitting in your seat and asking you to take an order for a burger, wouldn't it?

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For those who don't get why the guy wouldn't just give Cobb a cup of coffee: it could be possible the reason why the guy is arguing with Cobb is because he's not a waiter, he's a customer and Cobb is in his seat at the table. It'd be like going out to a restaurant with friends, going to the restroom and coming back to find a stranger sitting in your seat and asking you to take an order for a burger, wouldn't it?it?

[[WMG: Leonardo DiCaprio never won his Oscar through inception]]
He incepted the idea of him being deserving of winning an Oscar into the vast majority of humans. Christopher Nolan is in on the con and they used the movie to perform the inception.
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* And every "copy" of this movie is actually a copy of TheLastAirbender. Hey, they had to sell the movie somehow...

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* And every "copy" of this movie is actually a copy of TheLastAirbender.Film/TheLastAirbender. Hey, they had to sell the movie somehow...
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I leave it up to Wiki Magic to spell out who was being incepted and for what purpose in each of those other films.

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I leave it up to Wiki Magic to spell out who was being incepted and for what purpose in each of those other films.films.

[[WMG: The waiter that Cobb was trying to get a coffee from during his chase in Mombasa wasn't a waiter.]]
For those who don't get why the guy wouldn't just give Cobb a cup of coffee: it could be possible the reason why the guy is arguing with Cobb is because he's not a waiter, he's a customer and Cobb is in his seat at the table. It'd be like going out to a restaurant with friends, going to the restroom and coming back to find a stranger sitting in your seat and asking you to take an order for a burger, wouldn't it?
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[[WMG: Inception is a semi-sequel to {{Paprika}}]]

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[[WMG: Inception is a semi-sequel to {{Paprika}}]]''Literature/{{Paprika}}'']]
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[[WMG: The world of {{Inception}} and the world of GIJoeTheRiseofCobra are the same.]]

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[[WMG: The world of {{Inception}} Film/{{Inception}} and the world of GIJoeTheRiseofCobra Film/GIJoeTheRiseofCobra are the same.]]

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