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So, in the entirety of the Hatchetfield series, it's never explained what they have against Clivesdale or where the rivalry came from. The real reason might be that Clivesdale is a bigger, brighter, more modern, and more successful place compared to Hatchetfield. Its timeline also takes place in the "real world", one that's remained untouched by the supernatural forces, strange phenomena, and scientific anomalies that cursed Hatchetfield. The Lords in Black wouldn't dare come across it, claiming it to be "too pure" for their taste, so they leave it be. This could even explain why people still say "F@c* Clivesdale", they're cursed to never want to venture outside the loop they're unknowingly trapped in.
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So, in the entirety of the Hatchetfield series, it's never explained what they have against Clivesdale or where the rivalry came from. The real reason might be that Clivesdale is a bigger, brighter, more modern, and more successful place compared to Hatchetfield. Its timeline also takes place in the "real world", one that's remained untouched by the supernatural forces, strange phenomena, and scientific anomalies that cursed Hatchetfield. The Lords in Black wouldn't dare come darecome across it, claiming it to be "too pure" for their taste, so they leave it be. This could even explain why people still say "F@c* "Fuck Clivesdale", they're cursed to never want to venture outside the loop they're unknowingly trapped in.
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And their ultimate enemy? None other than the Capital G, {{God}} himself! [[{{Understatement}} Frustrated]] with Yahweh's irrational jealousy of deities other than himself and general unfair treatment of LGBTQ+ people, pro-choicers, and "non-believers", the Black and White decided to go on a crusade against him in order to build a paradise for everyone. But somewhere down the lane, the five Lords In Black gradually became corrupted and became no better than the one they sought to destroy. Only Webby has remained pure ever since.
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And their ultimate enemy? None other than the Capital G, {{God}} himself! [[{{Understatement}} Frustrated]] with Yahweh's irrational jealousy of deities other than himself and general unfair treatment of LGBTQ+ people, pro-choicers, and "non-believers", the Black and White decided to go on a crusade against him in order to build a paradise for everyone. But somewhere down the lane, the five Lords In Black gradually became corrupted and became no better than the one [[Theatre/TheTrailToOregon vicious, two-faced prick]] they sought to destroy. Only Webby has remained pure ever since.
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And their ultimate enemy? None other than the Capital G, {{God}} himself! Frustrated [[{{Understatement}} Frustrated]] with Yahweh's irrational jealousy of deities other than himself and general unfair treatment of LGBTQ+ people, pro-choicers, and "non-believers", the Black and White decided to go on a crusade against him. But somewhere down the lane, the five Lords In Black gradually became corrupted and became no better than the one they sought to destroy. Only Webby has remained pure ever since.
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And their ultimate enemy? None other than the Capital G, {{God}} himself! Frustrated with Yahweh's irrational jealousy of deities other than himself and general unfair treatment of LGBTQ+ people, pro-choicers, and "non-believers", the Black and White decided to go on a crusade against him. But somewhere down the lane, the five Lords In Black gradually became corrupted and became no better than the one they sought to destroy. Only Webby has remained pure ever since.
And their ultimate enemy? None other than the Capital G, {{God}} himself! Frustrated with Yahweh's irrational jealousy of deities other than himself and general unfair treatment of LGBTQ+ people, pro-choicers, and "non-believers", the Black and White decided to go on a crusade against him. But somewhere down the lane, the five Lords In Black gradually became corrupted and became no better than the one they sought to destroy. Only Webby has remained pure ever since.
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The mention of Wilbur Cross disappearing to become Uncle Wiley 13 years ago is oddly specific, and WordOfGod has since clarified that Hannah is supposed to be 13 (like her actor) and just acts younger than her age because of her AmbiguousDisorder. It may have some connection to her abilities -- maybe he seduced Lex and Hannah's mom because of her genetic potential to conceive TheChosenOne. (It wouldn't be too different from what he did with Linda)
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[[WMG:Pokey is so named because he is OrcusOnHisThrone.]]
In contrast to the previous guess about Pokey being Hatchetfield's BigBad, perhaps Pokey ''isn't'' to be taken seriously. Sure, he conquered the world in the very first Hatchetfield story, and "Next Time" has been interpreted as Pokey declaring that he will return and conquer next time. On the other hand, he's only ended ''one'' timeline in the Hatchetfield multiverse, and his scheme in "Yellow Jacket" is much smaller. And he willingly participates when people invoke the names and summon all five of the Lords; even given his humorless affect in ''Nerdy Prudes Must Die'', he got in on the taunting. Perhaps the other Lords in Black are well aware that he'd ''like'' to destroy everything -- but he enacts his schemes at such a slow pace, pokey if you will, that they're not afraid of him. Wiggly, Tinky, Blinky, and Nibbly are all such {{Meaningful Name}}s that "Pokey" must surely mean ''something''. He might still be shunned and mocked among the five; thus far the only time we've ever seen one Lord directly interact with another is when Wiggly chides Pokey for delivering the YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm line, calling him a "nasty boy".
In contrast to the previous guess about Pokey being Hatchetfield's BigBad, perhaps Pokey ''isn't'' to be taken seriously. Sure, he conquered the world in the very first Hatchetfield story, and "Next Time" has been interpreted as Pokey declaring that he will return and conquer next time. On the other hand, he's only ended ''one'' timeline in the Hatchetfield multiverse, and his scheme in "Yellow Jacket" is much smaller. And he willingly participates when people invoke the names and summon all five of the Lords; even given his humorless affect in ''Nerdy Prudes Must Die'', he got in on the taunting. Perhaps the other Lords in Black are well aware that he'd ''like'' to destroy everything -- but he enacts his schemes at such a slow pace, pokey if you will, that they're not afraid of him. Wiggly, Tinky, Blinky, and Nibbly are all such {{Meaningful Name}}s that "Pokey" must surely mean ''something''. He might still be shunned and mocked among the five; thus far the only time we've ever seen one Lord directly interact with another is when Wiggly chides Pokey for delivering the YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm line, calling him a "nasty boy".
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[[WMG: ''Workin' Boys'' was always meant as one big BaitAndSwitch.]]
It's been made clear that the RealLife short film ''Workin' Boys'' will ''not'' be an actual portrayal of the ShowWithinAShow from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', which was invented to be [[StylisticSuck an absurdly bad idea for a musical]], and the description for the short film is that it's named after ''Workin' Boys'' because it's about Prof. Hidgens' quest to get ''Workin' Boys'' produced at the Starlight Theater.
However, Corey Dorris, on the ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' Season One talkback Livestream, let slip that "It's not really ''Workin' Boys''" -- something Nick Lang quickly shushed him about. This ''might'' just mean what was said above -- that the film won't be a three-hour-long snoozefest that takes place in RealTime [[BottleEpisode confined to the location of a football field]] -- but it could have a deeper meaning.
It would be tough to pull off, but it wouldn't be surprising at this point, considering how much Nick Lang enjoys shocking plot twists and {{Wham Episode}}s, for ''Workin' Boys'' to suddenly swerve away from the ostensible plot about Prof. Hidgens' theatrical ambitions and reveal itself to be a major WhamEpisode in the Hatchetfield MythArc, maybe even one involving some kind of meta twist that retroactively changes the title of the movie that it's in.
[[WMG: Hidgens will turn out to be the villain of ''Workin' Boys'']]
It's already been made very clear, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''TGWDLM'' and his ''worse'' one in "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man", that there's something not right with the lad. The plot we've been given about him trying to stage ''Workin' Boys'' with very little budget or experience or connections -- finding a venue, hiring crew and casting actors, etc. -- could turn into something both more supernatural and more sinister, especially as the frustration of ''Workin' Boys''' impending failure turns him AxCrazy again. Dollars to donuts the final fate of the cast of ''Workin' Boys'' he's gathered is to be some kind of mass HumanSacrifice.
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[[WMG: ''Workin' Boys'' was always meant as one big BaitAndSwitch.]]
It's been made clear that the RealLife short film ''Workin' Boys'' will ''not'' be an actual portrayal of the ShowWithinAShow from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', which was invented to be [[StylisticSuck an absurdly bad idea for a musical]], and the description for the short film is that it's named after ''Workin' Boys'' because it's about Prof. Hidgens' quest to get ''Workin' Boys'' produced at the Starlight Theater.
However, Corey Dorris, on the ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' Season One talkback Livestream, let slip that "It's not really ''Workin' Boys''" -- something Nick Lang quickly shushed him about. This ''might'' just mean what was said above -- that the film won't be a three-hour-long snoozefest that takes place in RealTime [[BottleEpisode confined to the location of a football field]] -- but it could have a deeper meaning.
It would be tough to pull off, but it wouldn't be surprising at this point, considering how much Nick Lang enjoys shocking plot twists and {{Wham Episode}}s, for ''Workin' Boys'' to suddenly swerve away from the ostensible plot about Prof. Hidgens' theatrical ambitions and reveal itself to be a major WhamEpisode in the Hatchetfield MythArc, maybe even one involving some kind of meta twist that retroactively changes the title of the movie that it's in.
[[WMG: Hidgens will turn out to be the villain of ''Workin' Boys'']]
It's already been made very clear, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''TGWDLM'' and his ''worse'' one in "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man", that there's something not right with the lad. The plot we've been given about him trying to stage ''Workin' Boys'' with very little budget or experience or connections -- finding a venue, hiring crew and casting actors, etc. -- could turn into something both more supernatural and more sinister, especially as the frustration of ''Workin' Boys''' impending failure turns him AxCrazy again. Dollars to donuts the final fate of the cast of ''Workin' Boys'' he's gathered is to be some kind of mass HumanSacrifice.
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[[WMG: ''Workin' Boys'' was always meant as one big BaitAndSwitch.]]
It's been made clear that the RealLife short film ''Workin' Boys'' will ''not'' be an actual portrayal of the ShowWithinAShow from ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', which was invented to be [[StylisticSuck an absurdly bad idea for a musical]], and the description for the short film is that it's named after ''Workin' Boys'' because it's about Prof. Hidgens' quest to get ''Workin' Boys'' produced at the Starlight Theater.
However, Corey Dorris, on the ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' Season One talkback Livestream, let slip that "It's not really ''Workin' Boys''" -- something Nick Lang quickly shushed him about. This ''might'' just mean what was said above -- that the film won't be a three-hour-long snoozefest that takes place in RealTime [[BottleEpisode confined to the location of a football field]] -- but it could have a deeper meaning.
It would be tough to pull off, but it wouldn't be surprising at this point, considering how much Nick Lang enjoys shocking plot twists and {{Wham Episode}}s, for ''Workin' Boys'' to suddenly swerve away from the ostensible plot about Prof. Hidgens' theatrical ambitions and reveal itself to be a major WhamEpisode in the Hatchetfield MythArc, maybe even one involving some kind of meta twist that retroactively changes the title of the movie that it's in.
[[WMG: Hidgens will turn out to be the villain of ''Workin' Boys'']]
It's already been made very clear, after his FaceHeelTurn in ''TGWDLM'' and his ''worse'' one in "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man", that there's something not right with the lad. The plot we've been given about him trying to stage ''Workin' Boys'' with very little budget or experience or connections -- finding a venue, hiring crew and casting actors, etc. -- could turn into something both more supernatural and more sinister, especially as the frustration of ''Workin' Boys''' impending failure turns him AxCrazy again. Dollars to donuts the final fate of the cast of ''Workin' Boys'' he's gathered is to be some kind of mass HumanSacrifice.
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While much focus has been given to Wiggly -- the first Lord in Black properly introduced, their leader, the "Lord in Black" himself -- there's something even more sinister about Pokey, the entity who pulled the strings behind the scenes of the first Hatchetfield story we ever saw. ''Nightmare Time 2'' made a point a few times of noting that each of the Lords in Black is quite unlike the others; and when this was said of Pokey, Webby noted his uncompromising nature, his desire to destroy everything but himself, to be "The Singular Voice". If Pokey is truly an enemy to everyone and everything, the Hatchetfield aga may culminate in all the forces of the universe, even including his four brothers, coming together to put a stop to him.
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While much focus has been given to Wiggly -- the first Lord in Black properly introduced, their leader, the "Lord in Black" himself -- there's something even more sinister about Pokey, the entity who pulled the strings behind the scenes of the first Hatchetfield story we ever saw. ''Nightmare Time 2'' made a point a few times of noting that each of the Lords in Black is quite unlike the others; and when this was said of Pokey, Webby noted his uncompromising nature, his desire to destroy everything but himself, to be "The Singular Voice". If Pokey is truly an enemy to everyone and everything, the Hatchetfield aga saga may culminate in all the forces of the universe, even including his four brothers, coming together to put a stop to him.
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[[WMG: Much like ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, the end of the Hatchetfield Trilogy will involve PEIP becoming aware all the timelines are ending.]]
The world always ends sometime around 2019 and Hatchetfield is somehow always at the epicenter, which pushes PEIP in this timeline to take decisive action.
[[WMG: Nerdy Prudes Must Die! will go back to being meta.]]
It will be about people who know they're "side characters" in other people's stories without having anything interesting happen to them themselves -- "nerdy prudes" -- and who resent this fact.
[[WMG: The leading man and leading lady of NPMD will be Hot Chocolate Boy and Grace Chastity, but they won't get together due in part to incompatible orientations.]]
It seems unlikely Bill and Alice would get that heated over the possibility of Alice dating Grace Chastity if she weren't into girls, and her conversely not being into boys (but having one be into her) would fit HCB's apparent ButtMonkey status.
[[WMG: One of the Nerdy Prudes will be an alternate version of Sherman Young; another, the squeaky-voiced teen from the movie theater played by Joey Richter.]]
It would fit thematically with HCB, all of them having annoying voices that seem to fit horribly with being lead characters in a musical. Grace Chastity might also have a high-pitched nasal voice like the one Creator/LaurenLopez used for young Esther in The Solve-It Squad.
* While the idea of a high-school-aged Sherman seemed to go against the mechanics of Hatchetfield's timelines following revelations in ''Nightmare Time'' season 1 -- but season 2 reveals that Sherman can gain the power to de-age himself, making the notion of a teenaged Sherman appearing in a future show not quite so Jossed as we might think! As for the Obnoxious Teen, with the timeline having moved forward he may no longer be in high school.
[[WMG: Jamie Lyn Beatty will play Grace Chastity, and finally have a leading role in a Starkid production]]
I just think it would be neat.
* It would be ironic to have Alice's actual girlfriend Deb and the girl her dad would rather she be dating be played by the same person.
* Jossed; ''Nightmare Time'' Season 2 sees Angela Giarratana cast in the role of Grace... as well as the character's surname being Chasity, not Chastity.
[[WMG: This one will have a happier or at least BittersweetEnding.]]
After the downer of TGWDLM and the ambiguous up-to-interpretation one of Black Friday; this will have a better ending.
[[WMG: Nerdy Prudes Must Die! will parody the SlasherMovie genre.]]
Many have pointed out that '' Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' feels like alien invasion/zombie horror from the 60s and 70s (''Film/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers'', ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead''), while the emphasis on cults, Biblical apocalypse, and CosmicHorror themes makes ''Black Friday'' feel more like the 80s and 90s (''Film/TheOmen'', ''Film/RosemarysBaby'', ''Series/TwinPeaks'', ''{{Literature/IT}}''). If NPMD follows the trend then it'll be about the late 90s/early 2000s revival of interest in the slasher (''{{Film/Scream}}'') and GhostStory (''Film/TheRing'').
A slasher-style story would bring the scale of the story back down to the ClosedCircle of a small group of teenagers in Hatchetfield, and the slasher being an undead revenant like [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason]] would fill in the P in PEIP, a Paranormal threat, after the meteor in TGWDLM, was Extraterrestrial and Wiggly in BF was Interdimensional). It also sounds like the title of ''Nerdy Prudes Must Die!'' is a parody of the FinalGirl, with this slasher being offended by the concept and specifically targeting potential Final Girls for being "nerdy prudes".
* This theory gained a lot of support after Creator/TeamStarkid did a live-streamed reading of ''Film/{{Scream}}'' for their fans during the UsefulNotes/CoronavirusDisease2019Pandemic.
[[WMG: It will take place on Halloween.]]
Apart from being in a different dimension, ''Black Friday'' takes place some (unspecified) time after ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' (since in that dimension, Emma and Paul didn't even get as far as they are at the beginning of ''Black Friday''). Just like ''Black Friday'' did, ''Nerdy Prudes'' will continue sometime after the previous musical, in an alternate dimension that didn't perish. Halloween is a few days after Black Friday - assuming that ''Nerdy Prudes'' is going to be a slasher-style horror story, it would be fitting.
* Black Friday is ''after'' Halloween (Halloween is Oct. 31, and Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving, i.e. the fourth Friday in November). That said, NPMD sounds a lot like it's going to be a slasher pastiche and there's a [[Franchise/{{Halloween}} grand tradition]] of slashers taking place on Halloween.
[[WMG: The overarching theme of the "Hatchetfield series" is that HumansAreSpecial and about to reach the next phase of our evolution, and entities like the HiveMind and Wiggly are trying to stop it.]]
The line in "Monsters and Men (Reprise)", "If Wiggly is burnt, who knows what we've unlocked?" implies major long-term consequences to humanity's ability to defy Wiggly on Black Friday, even if the show seems to have a DownerEnding with WorldWarIII. Incorporating the GroundhogDayLoop theory above, the idea may be that humanity is collectively learning and growing across the various timelines as the apocalypses happen, and there will be a timeline where -- as John [=MacNamara=]'s ability to challenge Wiggly and AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence implies -- humans finally break through and can challenge the gods on their home turf. (It's the only way the message of the song "Monsters of Men" ends up not feeling like a cruel joke.)
* This is an interesting theory and all, but the actual line was "if Wiggly is birthed who knows what we've unlocked".
[[WMG: Nerdy Prudes Must Die! Will involve some kind of paranormal/supernatural activity]]
So far, the shows in the Hatchetfield trilogy have dealt with one of the phenomena mentioned in PEIP's acronym (Paranormal, Extraterrestrial, and Interdimensional Phenomena) respectively- TGWDLM was about musical extraterrestrials, and Black Friday was about an interdimensional Cthulhu Expy. If Nerdy Prudes follows this pattern, it will deal with the paranormal- and if the slasher parody theory above is correct, it may end up as a parody of movies like Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet, or Film/TheBlairWitchProject, where the killer is a ghost or other supernatural entity.
[[WMG: NPMD will be the first appearance of Ziggs from ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' [=S1E1=] Pt. 2 "Watcher World"]]
A big stage show would be a more auspicious moment to introduce Starkid's first non-binary character played by a new, non-binary actor than an episode of ''Nightmare Time'', and it seems strongly hinted that NPMD will take place at Hatchetfield High and involve a mostly-teenage cast. Ziggs being "really cool" would make them a contrast with the two "nerdy prudes" we've been told will be the main characters, Grace Chastity and Hot Chocolate Boy, and possibly set them up as a {{Foil}}.
* Jossed; Ziggs debuts in "Perky's Buds" and is now a college student, making it unlikely for them to play a role in this high school story.
[[WMG: The Lords in Black will ''not'' appear in NPMD.]]
It seems there's a pattern by now: even-numbered stories (''Theatre/BlackFriday'', "Watcher World", "Time Bastard", "The Witch in the Web") have the Lords in Black in them, odd-numbered stories (''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man", "Forever & Always", "Jane's a Car") do not. They might be ''involved''--as their magic is employed in "Jane's a Car" and WordOfGod has hint-dropped that one was responsible for TGWDLM--but they won't appear in person (or, well, doll) and the story won't be ''about'' them, since NPMD was supposed to be the third installment in the series. So it'll be grand in scope like the two-stage musicals rather than the intimate horror of ''Nightmare Time'' stories, but ''not'' advance Hatchetfield's cosmic MythArc.
* This got one step closer being to confirming when Creator/NickLang revealed the concept of ''NPMD'' is both the "silliest" of the premises for the full-length Hatchetfield musicals and conceived before any of the Hatchetfield MythArc was established in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', and {{Jossed}} the common fan theory that Nibblenephim/"Nibbly" is the GreaterScopeVillain of ''NPMD''. (He is, instead, the villain of a later idea for a film that may end up recycled as a ''Nightmare Time'' episode.)
[[WMG: Grace Chastity will be played by Kendall Yakshe.]]
Most fan castings for Grace Chastity pick an older veteran actress for her -- Creator/LaurenLopez, Creator/JaimeLynBeatty, Kim Whalen -- and while all of them certainly can pass for teenagers if they have to, the whole reason Mariah Rose Faith was cast in ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' (and Angela Giarratana was cast to replace her in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' when she was unavailable due to being cast in ''Theatre/MeanGirls'') is that they wanted an actress in her 20s to more realistically portray a high-school-aged main character. This is the same reason 20something Robert Manion was cast as Ethan Green and the "Hot Chocolate Boy" -- both of whom, unlike Creator/JoeyRichter's "Obnoxious Teen" character, are meant as main characters the audience is supposed to get invested in.
It seems like the most sensible thing to do would be to have Mariah or Angela play Grace in ''Nerdy Prudes Must Die'', the way Mariah was originally meant to play Lex as a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Alice in ''Black Friday''... but that permanently limits the interactions Grace can have with other characters, meaning she can now never be onstage at the same time as Lex or Alice without awkward ActingForTwo shenanigans, and with Hatchetfield now being a large SharedUniverse with WebVideo side stories accompanying the musicals, that could be awkward.
That's why it's possibly making a virtue of necessity that ''NPMD'' has been so long delayed -- long enough for Kendall to age out of playing a "child" character and into a "teen" role. (If the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic should end on the most optimistic possible timeline, by early 2021, then Kendall will be 15 before a stage show could go up; more likely it'll go up after she's turned 16.) The Creator/LangBrothers in ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' seem to have enjoyed giving actors the chance to show off their range and play contrasting characters, especially the newer ones -- Angela playing EnglishRose Lucy to contrast with Lex, for instance -- and "nerdy prude" Grace Chastity would certainly be a huge departure from playing Hannah (and would allow Kendall to play someone slightly less weird and closer to her real-life personality).
* Jossed; ''Nightmare Time'' Season 2 sees Angela Giarratana cast in the role of Grace... as well as the character's surname being Chasity, not Chastity.
[[WMG: Hot Chocolate Boy is Ted's brother.]]
This is seemingly universally accepted {{Fanon}}, so... might as well mention it here.
Nick Lang had previously stated that Ted's surname was a "spoiler", later clarifying after Season 1 of ''Nightmare Time'', which revealed Ted's surname, that this was true ''before'' the pandemic disrupted the schedule of the Hatchetfield saga. Presumably, Hot Chocolate Boy's starring role in NPMD would have openly used his surname, Spankoffski, with Ted being revealed to share this surname ''later''. Instead, the reverse will be true.
As it was widely known that HCB would be, at the very least, ''among'' NPMD's main characters, fans took Bill's mention of Ted having a nerdy younger brother in "Watcher World", along with HCB's tender interactions with Ted and Charlotte in particular in the final number of ''Black Friday'', to hint toward this theory.
* Confirmed! Hot Chocolate Boy ascends to a leading role in the ''Nightmare Time'' story "Abstinence Camp", and he is Peter Spankoffski.
[[WMG: Upcoming Cast and Character [=WMGs=] ]]
As of this writing, two cast members have been announced for NPMD: Creator/CoreyDorris will be reprising the role of Mayor Solomon Lauter, who appeared briefly in two [=NMT2=] stories and Creator/LaurenLopez will be Ruth Fleming, a new character described as "such a loser that telemarketers hang up on her". My theories relating to the show's cast:
* Based on the assumption that she gets telemarketers and that she's one of the earlier cast members announced - assuming they're being unveiled from least to most important - Ruth will be an adult character rather than one of the high-school-aged "nerdy prudes".
* We can virtually guarantee headlining roles from Angela Giarratana as Grace and Mariah Rose Faith as Stephanie.
* Creator/JoeyRichter will reprise the role of Brad Callahan, a JerkJock seen briefly in "Yellow Jacket". As it was originally intended for Peter to make his proper debut here and reveal Ted to be his brother later, Ted will not feature in this story -- even though we ''know'' of their relationship now, he will have no plot-relevant role to play.
* Kim Whalen will return as Miss Holloway, having changed her name to Miss Holliday and becoming a guidance counselor in "Killer Track", this will be the status quo at the beginning of NPMD's timeline as well. If Miss Holliday appears, we can probably count on Curt Mega returning as Duke as well.
* With Lauren's main part announced, if Hannah appears, Kendall Nicole will return to the role. Though as Hannah is a freshman, who was only seen as a classmate of Brad and Steph in shop class, she may be OutOfFocus if she appears at all; likewise for Creator/DylanSaunders as Tom appearing in his role of shop class teacher.
And this all leaves the question of what will become of Peter Spankoffski, the show's long-presumed main protagonist. He was played by Robert Manion in his early-bird cameos in TGWDLM and ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', and by [[Creator/LangBrothers NickLang]] in "Abstinence Camp". While the announcement of Robert's dismissal left the door open for his return to [=StarKid=], he seems to have burned that bridge as of the announcement of ''[=StarKid=] Returns'', going off on an angry tirade against the group. And Nick tries to avoid acting especially when he's solo directing, so it's likely this show will see Hatchetfield's third, and presumably definitive, Peter Spankoffski portrayal. Two guesses come to mind:
* The announcement teaser of NPMD featured Curt Mega as a nerd. While Nick made it clear afterward that Curt was playing a "generic nerd" and that the show had not yet been cast, Curt fit the bill well enough that that ''needed'' to be said, so he may be placed in the role after all.
* Jae Hughes has the trim physique of the previous two Peters; after proving themself too cool for school in the roles of Ziggs and Kale, they might flip the script and make for a nice gawky Peter.
As of January 11, it would seem the entire cast has been announced:
* Mariah Rose Faith as Stephanie Lauter and Angela Giarratana as Grace Chasity, treated as such a given that they never actually received a formal cast announcement.
* As mentioned above, the first two cast members announced were Creator/CoreyDorris as Mayor Solomon Lauter and Creator/LaurenLopez as a new character, Ruth Fleming.
* It is Creator/JoeyRichter who will be filling the shoes of Peter Spankoffski.
* Bryce Charles will be making her onstage Hatchetfield debut as Detective Shapiro.
* Jon Matteson as Richie Lipschitz, a character originally intended to have been Joey Richter's "Obnoxious Teen" as as AscendedExtra before Joey being cast as Peter made that impossible - amusingly, similar circumstances as what led to the creation of the Obnoxious Teen in the first place.
* Months later, three more cast members were announced, despite it having been previously claimed that NPMD would have only eight cast members just like TGWDLM - Will Branner, a [=StarKid=] newcomer who previously worked with Mariah on ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', is playing TheBully, Max Jägerman (cue further WMG on what then became of Brad Callahan in this timeline; both are described as Hatchetfield High's star quarterback, but Max seems like a much more dangerous and serious character); and Kim Whalen and Curt Mega are playing Grace's parents.
* Two understudies, newcomers Virginia Vass and Hamilton Davis, were also announced; [=YouTube=] viewers will likely never see them, but [=StarKid=] learned the value of understudies after ''both'' previous stage productions required someone to unexpectedly step in one night.
If this is truly the entire cast, that makes this the first Hatchetfield project in which songwriter Creator/JeffBlim does not appear, and very nearly the only [=StarKid=] project ''ever'' not to feature Creator/JaimeLynBeatty. Now, of course, most of these ten actors will no doubt be playing a whole heap of other characters, so, we can continue to speculate on what other cameos we'll see throughout...
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NPMD thus far seems as if it will be primarily a murder mystery. It has a paranormal element, but so of course do many ''Nightmare Time'' stories -- previous [=WMGs=] have expressed the likelihood that we won't see any Lords in Black in this story... and Jeff Blim's absence from the cast likely means no PEIP either. That being said, I wouldn't rule out Jeff simply being ''completely'' excluded from the cast announcements to make General [=MacNamara=]'s return an even bigger surprise than it was in ''Black Friday'', which concealed his return by announcing Jeff's primary character would be the Man in a Hurry.
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[[WMG: Much like ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, the end of the Hatchetfield Trilogy will involve PEIP becoming aware all the timelines are ending.]]
The world always ends sometime around 2019 and Hatchetfield is somehow always at the epicenter, which pushes PEIP in this timeline to take decisive action.
[[WMG: Nerdy Prudes Must Die! will go back to being meta.]]
It will be about people who know they're "side characters" in other people's stories without having anything interesting happen to them themselves -- "nerdy prudes" -- and who resent this fact.
[[WMG: The leading man and leading lady of NPMD will be Hot Chocolate Boy and Grace Chastity, but they won't get together due in part to incompatible orientations.]]
It seems unlikely Bill and Alice would get that heated over the possibility of Alice dating Grace Chastity if she weren't into girls, and her conversely not being into boys (but having one be into her) would fit HCB's apparent ButtMonkey status.
[[WMG: One of the Nerdy Prudes will be an alternate version of Sherman Young; another, the squeaky-voiced teen from the movie theater played by Joey Richter.]]
It would fit thematically with HCB, all of them having annoying voices that seem to fit horribly with being lead characters in a musical. Grace Chastity might also have a high-pitched nasal voice like the one Creator/LaurenLopez used for young Esther in The Solve-It Squad.
* While the idea of a high-school-aged Sherman seemed to go against the mechanics of Hatchetfield's timelines following revelations in ''Nightmare Time'' season 1 -- but season 2 reveals that Sherman can gain the power to de-age himself, making the notion of a teenaged Sherman appearing in a future show not quite so Jossed as we might think! As for the Obnoxious Teen, with the timeline having moved forward he may no longer be in high school.
[[WMG: Jamie Lyn Beatty will play Grace Chastity, and finally have a leading role in a Starkid production]]
I just think it would be neat.
* It would be ironic to have Alice's actual girlfriend Deb and the girl her dad would rather she be dating be played by the same person.
* Jossed; ''Nightmare Time'' Season 2 sees Angela Giarratana cast in the role of Grace... as well as the character's surname being Chasity, not Chastity.
[[WMG: This one will have a happier or at least BittersweetEnding.]]
After the downer of TGWDLM and the ambiguous up-to-interpretation one of Black Friday; this will have a better ending.
[[WMG: Nerdy Prudes Must Die! will parody the SlasherMovie genre.]]
Many have pointed out that '' Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' feels like alien invasion/zombie horror from the 60s and 70s (''Film/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers'', ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead''), while the emphasis on cults, Biblical apocalypse, and CosmicHorror themes makes ''Black Friday'' feel more like the 80s and 90s (''Film/TheOmen'', ''Film/RosemarysBaby'', ''Series/TwinPeaks'', ''{{Literature/IT}}''). If NPMD follows the trend then it'll be about the late 90s/early 2000s revival of interest in the slasher (''{{Film/Scream}}'') and GhostStory (''Film/TheRing'').
A slasher-style story would bring the scale of the story back down to the ClosedCircle of a small group of teenagers in Hatchetfield, and the slasher being an undead revenant like [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason]] would fill in the P in PEIP, a Paranormal threat, after the meteor in TGWDLM, was Extraterrestrial and Wiggly in BF was Interdimensional). It also sounds like the title of ''Nerdy Prudes Must Die!'' is a parody of the FinalGirl, with this slasher being offended by the concept and specifically targeting potential Final Girls for being "nerdy prudes".
* This theory gained a lot of support after Creator/TeamStarkid did a live-streamed reading of ''Film/{{Scream}}'' for their fans during the UsefulNotes/CoronavirusDisease2019Pandemic.
[[WMG: It will take place on Halloween.]]
Apart from being in a different dimension, ''Black Friday'' takes place some (unspecified) time after ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' (since in that dimension, Emma and Paul didn't even get as far as they are at the beginning of ''Black Friday''). Just like ''Black Friday'' did, ''Nerdy Prudes'' will continue sometime after the previous musical, in an alternate dimension that didn't perish. Halloween is a few days after Black Friday - assuming that ''Nerdy Prudes'' is going to be a slasher-style horror story, it would be fitting.
* Black Friday is ''after'' Halloween (Halloween is Oct. 31, and Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving, i.e. the fourth Friday in November). That said, NPMD sounds a lot like it's going to be a slasher pastiche and there's a [[Franchise/{{Halloween}} grand tradition]] of slashers taking place on Halloween.
[[WMG: The overarching theme of the "Hatchetfield series" is that HumansAreSpecial and about to reach the next phase of our evolution, and entities like the HiveMind and Wiggly are trying to stop it.]]
The line in "Monsters and Men (Reprise)", "If Wiggly is burnt, who knows what we've unlocked?" implies major long-term consequences to humanity's ability to defy Wiggly on Black Friday, even if the show seems to have a DownerEnding with WorldWarIII. Incorporating the GroundhogDayLoop theory above, the idea may be that humanity is collectively learning and growing across the various timelines as the apocalypses happen, and there will be a timeline where -- as John [=MacNamara=]'s ability to challenge Wiggly and AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence implies -- humans finally break through and can challenge the gods on their home turf. (It's the only way the message of the song "Monsters of Men" ends up not feeling like a cruel joke.)
* This is an interesting theory and all, but the actual line was "if Wiggly is birthed who knows what we've unlocked".
[[WMG: Nerdy Prudes Must Die! Will involve some kind of paranormal/supernatural activity]]
So far, the shows in the Hatchetfield trilogy have dealt with one of the phenomena mentioned in PEIP's acronym (Paranormal, Extraterrestrial, and Interdimensional Phenomena) respectively- TGWDLM was about musical extraterrestrials, and Black Friday was about an interdimensional Cthulhu Expy. If Nerdy Prudes follows this pattern, it will deal with the paranormal- and if the slasher parody theory above is correct, it may end up as a parody of movies like Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet, or Film/TheBlairWitchProject, where the killer is a ghost or other supernatural entity.
[[WMG: NPMD will be the first appearance of Ziggs from ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' [=S1E1=] Pt. 2 "Watcher World"]]
A big stage show would be a more auspicious moment to introduce Starkid's first non-binary character played by a new, non-binary actor than an episode of ''Nightmare Time'', and it seems strongly hinted that NPMD will take place at Hatchetfield High and involve a mostly-teenage cast. Ziggs being "really cool" would make them a contrast with the two "nerdy prudes" we've been told will be the main characters, Grace Chastity and Hot Chocolate Boy, and possibly set them up as a {{Foil}}.
* Jossed; Ziggs debuts in "Perky's Buds" and is now a college student, making it unlikely for them to play a role in this high school story.
[[WMG: The Lords in Black will ''not'' appear in NPMD.]]
It seems there's a pattern by now: even-numbered stories (''Theatre/BlackFriday'', "Watcher World", "Time Bastard", "The Witch in the Web") have the Lords in Black in them, odd-numbered stories (''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'', "The Hatchetfield Ape-Man", "Forever & Always", "Jane's a Car") do not. They might be ''involved''--as their magic is employed in "Jane's a Car" and WordOfGod has hint-dropped that one was responsible for TGWDLM--but they won't appear in person (or, well, doll) and the story won't be ''about'' them, since NPMD was supposed to be the third installment in the series. So it'll be grand in scope like the two-stage musicals rather than the intimate horror of ''Nightmare Time'' stories, but ''not'' advance Hatchetfield's cosmic MythArc.
* This got one step closer being to confirming when Creator/NickLang revealed the concept of ''NPMD'' is both the "silliest" of the premises for the full-length Hatchetfield musicals and conceived before any of the Hatchetfield MythArc was established in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', and {{Jossed}} the common fan theory that Nibblenephim/"Nibbly" is the GreaterScopeVillain of ''NPMD''. (He is, instead, the villain of a later idea for a film that may end up recycled as a ''Nightmare Time'' episode.)
[[WMG: Grace Chastity will be played by Kendall Yakshe.]]
Most fan castings for Grace Chastity pick an older veteran actress for her -- Creator/LaurenLopez, Creator/JaimeLynBeatty, Kim Whalen -- and while all of them certainly can pass for teenagers if they have to, the whole reason Mariah Rose Faith was cast in ''Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' (and Angela Giarratana was cast to replace her in ''Theatre/BlackFriday'' when she was unavailable due to being cast in ''Theatre/MeanGirls'') is that they wanted an actress in her 20s to more realistically portray a high-school-aged main character. This is the same reason 20something Robert Manion was cast as Ethan Green and the "Hot Chocolate Boy" -- both of whom, unlike Creator/JoeyRichter's "Obnoxious Teen" character, are meant as main characters the audience is supposed to get invested in.
It seems like the most sensible thing to do would be to have Mariah or Angela play Grace in ''Nerdy Prudes Must Die'', the way Mariah was originally meant to play Lex as a ContrastingSequelMainCharacter to Alice in ''Black Friday''... but that permanently limits the interactions Grace can have with other characters, meaning she can now never be onstage at the same time as Lex or Alice without awkward ActingForTwo shenanigans, and with Hatchetfield now being a large SharedUniverse with WebVideo side stories accompanying the musicals, that could be awkward.
That's why it's possibly making a virtue of necessity that ''NPMD'' has been so long delayed -- long enough for Kendall to age out of playing a "child" character and into a "teen" role. (If the UsefulNotes/COVID19Pandemic should end on the most optimistic possible timeline, by early 2021, then Kendall will be 15 before a stage show could go up; more likely it'll go up after she's turned 16.) The Creator/LangBrothers in ''WebVideo/NightmareTime'' seem to have enjoyed giving actors the chance to show off their range and play contrasting characters, especially the newer ones -- Angela playing EnglishRose Lucy to contrast with Lex, for instance -- and "nerdy prude" Grace Chastity would certainly be a huge departure from playing Hannah (and would allow Kendall to play someone slightly less weird and closer to her real-life personality).
* Jossed; ''Nightmare Time'' Season 2 sees Angela Giarratana cast in the role of Grace... as well as the character's surname being Chasity, not Chastity.
[[WMG: Hot Chocolate Boy is Ted's brother.]]
This is seemingly universally accepted {{Fanon}}, so... might as well mention it here.
Nick Lang had previously stated that Ted's surname was a "spoiler", later clarifying after Season 1 of ''Nightmare Time'', which revealed Ted's surname, that this was true ''before'' the pandemic disrupted the schedule of the Hatchetfield saga. Presumably, Hot Chocolate Boy's starring role in NPMD would have openly used his surname, Spankoffski, with Ted being revealed to share this surname ''later''. Instead, the reverse will be true.
As it was widely known that HCB would be, at the very least, ''among'' NPMD's main characters, fans took Bill's mention of Ted having a nerdy younger brother in "Watcher World", along with HCB's tender interactions with Ted and Charlotte in particular in the final number of ''Black Friday'', to hint toward this theory.
* Confirmed! Hot Chocolate Boy ascends to a leading role in the ''Nightmare Time'' story "Abstinence Camp", and he is Peter Spankoffski.
[[WMG: Upcoming Cast and Character [=WMGs=] ]]
As of this writing, two cast members have been announced for NPMD: Creator/CoreyDorris will be reprising the role of Mayor Solomon Lauter, who appeared briefly in two [=NMT2=] stories and Creator/LaurenLopez will be Ruth Fleming, a new character described as "such a loser that telemarketers hang up on her". My theories relating to the show's cast:
* Based on the assumption that she gets telemarketers and that she's one of the earlier cast members announced - assuming they're being unveiled from least to most important - Ruth will be an adult character rather than one of the high-school-aged "nerdy prudes".
* We can virtually guarantee headlining roles from Angela Giarratana as Grace and Mariah Rose Faith as Stephanie.
* Creator/JoeyRichter will reprise the role of Brad Callahan, a JerkJock seen briefly in "Yellow Jacket". As it was originally intended for Peter to make his proper debut here and reveal Ted to be his brother later, Ted will not feature in this story -- even though we ''know'' of their relationship now, he will have no plot-relevant role to play.
* Kim Whalen will return as Miss Holloway, having changed her name to Miss Holliday and becoming a guidance counselor in "Killer Track", this will be the status quo at the beginning of NPMD's timeline as well. If Miss Holliday appears, we can probably count on Curt Mega returning as Duke as well.
* With Lauren's main part announced, if Hannah appears, Kendall Nicole will return to the role. Though as Hannah is a freshman, who was only seen as a classmate of Brad and Steph in shop class, she may be OutOfFocus if she appears at all; likewise for Creator/DylanSaunders as Tom appearing in his role of shop class teacher.
And this all leaves the question of what will become of Peter Spankoffski, the show's long-presumed main protagonist. He was played by Robert Manion in his early-bird cameos in TGWDLM and ''Theatre/BlackFriday'', and by [[Creator/LangBrothers NickLang]] in "Abstinence Camp". While the announcement of Robert's dismissal left the door open for his return to [=StarKid=], he seems to have burned that bridge as of the announcement of ''[=StarKid=] Returns'', going off on an angry tirade against the group. And Nick tries to avoid acting especially when he's solo directing, so it's likely this show will see Hatchetfield's third, and presumably definitive, Peter Spankoffski portrayal. Two guesses come to mind:
* The announcement teaser of NPMD featured Curt Mega as a nerd. While Nick made it clear afterward that Curt was playing a "generic nerd" and that the show had not yet been cast, Curt fit the bill well enough that that ''needed'' to be said, so he may be placed in the role after all.
* Jae Hughes has the trim physique of the previous two Peters; after proving themself too cool for school in the roles of Ziggs and Kale, they might flip the script and make for a nice gawky Peter.
As of January 11, it would seem the entire cast has been announced:
* Mariah Rose Faith as Stephanie Lauter and Angela Giarratana as Grace Chasity, treated as such a given that they never actually received a formal cast announcement.
* As mentioned above, the first two cast members announced were Creator/CoreyDorris as Mayor Solomon Lauter and Creator/LaurenLopez as a new character, Ruth Fleming.
* It is Creator/JoeyRichter who will be filling the shoes of Peter Spankoffski.
* Bryce Charles will be making her onstage Hatchetfield debut as Detective Shapiro.
* Jon Matteson as Richie Lipschitz, a character originally intended to have been Joey Richter's "Obnoxious Teen" as as AscendedExtra before Joey being cast as Peter made that impossible - amusingly, similar circumstances as what led to the creation of the Obnoxious Teen in the first place.
* Months later, three more cast members were announced, despite it having been previously claimed that NPMD would have only eight cast members just like TGWDLM - Will Branner, a [=StarKid=] newcomer who previously worked with Mariah on ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', is playing TheBully, Max Jägerman (cue further WMG on what then became of Brad Callahan in this timeline; both are described as Hatchetfield High's star quarterback, but Max seems like a much more dangerous and serious character); and Kim Whalen and Curt Mega are playing Grace's parents.
* Two understudies, newcomers Virginia Vass and Hamilton Davis, were also announced; [=YouTube=] viewers will likely never see them, but [=StarKid=] learned the value of understudies after ''both'' previous stage productions required someone to unexpectedly step in one night.
If this is truly the entire cast, that makes this the first Hatchetfield project in which songwriter Creator/JeffBlim does not appear, and very nearly the only [=StarKid=] project ''ever'' not to feature Creator/JaimeLynBeatty. Now, of course, most of these ten actors will no doubt be playing a whole heap of other characters, so, we can continue to speculate on what other cameos we'll see throughout...
[[WMG:NPMD's small scale]]
NPMD thus far seems as if it will be primarily a murder mystery. It has a paranormal element, but so of course do many ''Nightmare Time'' stories -- previous [=WMGs=] have expressed the likelihood that we won't see any Lords in Black in this story... and Jeff Blim's absence from the cast likely means no PEIP either. That being said, I wouldn't rule out Jeff simply being ''completely'' excluded from the cast announcements to make General [=MacNamara=]'s return an even bigger surprise than it was in ''Black Friday'', which concealed his return by announcing Jeff's primary character would be the Man in a Hurry.
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As of January 11, it would seem the entire cast has been announced:
* Mariah Rose Faith as Stephanie Lauter and Angela Giarratana as Grace Chasity, treated as such a given that they never actually received a formal cast announcement.
* As mentioned above, the first two cast members announced were Creator/CoreyDorris as Mayor Solomon Lauter and Creator/LaurenLopez as a new character, Ruth Fleming.
* It is Creator/JoeyRichter who will be filling the shoes of Peter Spankoffski.
* Bryce Charles will be making her onstage Hatchetfield debut as Detective Shapiro.
* Jon Matteson as Richie Lipschitz, a character originally intended to have been Joey Richter's "Obnoxious Teen" as as AscendedExtra before Joey being cast as Peter made that impossible - amusingly, similar circumstances as what led to the creation of the Obnoxious Teen in the first place.
* Months later, three more cast members were announced, despite it having been previously claimed that NPMD would have only eight cast members just like TGWDLM - Will Branner, a [=StarKid=] newcomer who previously worked with Mariah on ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', is playing TheBully, Max Jägerman (cue further WMG on what then became of Brad Callahan in this timeline; both are described as Hatchetfield High's star quarterback, but Max seems like a much more dangerous and serious character); and Kim Whalen and Curt Mega are playing Grace's parents.
* Two understudies, newcomers Virginia Vass and Hamilton Davis, were also announced; [=YouTube=] viewers will likely never see them, but [=StarKid=] learned the value of understudies after ''both'' previous stage productions required someone to unexpectedly step in one night.
If this is truly the entire cast, that makes this the first Hatchetfield project in which songwriter Creator/JeffBlim does not appear, and very nearly the only [=StarKid=] project ''ever'' not to feature Creator/JaimeLynBeatty. Now, of course, most of these ten actors will no doubt be playing a whole heap of other characters, so, we can continue to speculate on what other cameos we'll see throughout...
[[WMG:NPMD's small scale]]
NPMD thus far seems as if it will be primarily a murder mystery. It has a paranormal element, but so of course do many ''Nightmare Time'' stories -- previous [=WMGs=] have expressed the likelihood that we won't see any Lords in Black in this story... and Jeff Blim's absence from the cast likely means no PEIP either. That being said, I wouldn't rule out Jeff simply being ''completely'' excluded from the cast announcements to make General [=MacNamara=]'s return an even bigger surprise than it was in ''Black Friday'', which concealed his return by announcing Jeff's primary character would be the Man in a Hurry.
* Mariah Rose Faith as Stephanie Lauter and Angela Giarratana as Grace Chasity, treated as such a given that they never actually received a formal cast announcement.
* As mentioned above, the first two cast members announced were Creator/CoreyDorris as Mayor Solomon Lauter and Creator/LaurenLopez as a new character, Ruth Fleming.
* It is Creator/JoeyRichter who will be filling the shoes of Peter Spankoffski.
* Bryce Charles will be making her onstage Hatchetfield debut as Detective Shapiro.
* Jon Matteson as Richie Lipschitz, a character originally intended to have been Joey Richter's "Obnoxious Teen" as as AscendedExtra before Joey being cast as Peter made that impossible - amusingly, similar circumstances as what led to the creation of the Obnoxious Teen in the first place.
* Months later, three more cast members were announced, despite it having been previously claimed that NPMD would have only eight cast members just like TGWDLM - Will Branner, a [=StarKid=] newcomer who previously worked with Mariah on ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', is playing TheBully, Max Jägerman (cue further WMG on what then became of Brad Callahan in this timeline; both are described as Hatchetfield High's star quarterback, but Max seems like a much more dangerous and serious character); and Kim Whalen and Curt Mega are playing Grace's parents.
* Two understudies, newcomers Virginia Vass and Hamilton Davis, were also announced; [=YouTube=] viewers will likely never see them, but [=StarKid=] learned the value of understudies after ''both'' previous stage productions required someone to unexpectedly step in one night.
If this is truly the entire cast, that makes this the first Hatchetfield project in which songwriter Creator/JeffBlim does not appear, and very nearly the only [=StarKid=] project ''ever'' not to feature Creator/JaimeLynBeatty. Now, of course, most of these ten actors will no doubt be playing a whole heap of other characters, so, we can continue to speculate on what other cameos we'll see throughout...
[[WMG:NPMD's small scale]]
NPMD thus far seems as if it will be primarily a murder mystery. It has a paranormal element, but so of course do many ''Nightmare Time'' stories -- previous [=WMGs=] have expressed the likelihood that we won't see any Lords in Black in this story... and Jeff Blim's absence from the cast likely means no PEIP either. That being said, I wouldn't rule out Jeff simply being ''completely'' excluded from the cast announcements to make General [=MacNamara=]'s return an even bigger surprise than it was in ''Black Friday'', which concealed his return by announcing Jeff's primary character would be the Man in a Hurry.
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[[WMG:Pokey is the ultimate villain of Hatchetfield.]]
While much focus has been given to Wiggly -- the first Lord in Black properly introduced, their leader, the "Lord in Black" himself -- there's something even more sinister about Pokey, the entity who pulled the strings behind the scenes of the first Hatchetfield story we ever saw. ''Nightmare Time 2'' made a point a few times of noting that each of the Lords in Black is quite unlike the others; and when this was said of Pokey, Webby noted his uncompromising nature, his desire to destroy everything but himself, to be "The Singular Voice". If Pokey is truly an enemy to everyone and everything, the Hatchetfield aga may culminate in all the forces of the universe, even including his four brothers, coming together to put a stop to him.
While much focus has been given to Wiggly -- the first Lord in Black properly introduced, their leader, the "Lord in Black" himself -- there's something even more sinister about Pokey, the entity who pulled the strings behind the scenes of the first Hatchetfield story we ever saw. ''Nightmare Time 2'' made a point a few times of noting that each of the Lords in Black is quite unlike the others; and when this was said of Pokey, Webby noted his uncompromising nature, his desire to destroy everything but himself, to be "The Singular Voice". If Pokey is truly an enemy to everyone and everything, the Hatchetfield aga may culminate in all the forces of the universe, even including his four brothers, coming together to put a stop to him.
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* While the idea of a high-school aged Sherman seemed to go against the mechanics of Hatchetfield's timelines following revelations in ''Nightmare Time'' season 1 -- but season 2 reveals that Sherman can gain the power to de-age himself, making the notion of a teenaged Sherman appearing in a futue show not quite so Jossed as we might think! As for the Obnoxious Teen, with the timeline having moved forward he may no longer be in high school.
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* While the idea of a high-school aged high-school-aged Sherman seemed to go against the mechanics of Hatchetfield's timelines following revelations in ''Nightmare Time'' season 1 -- but season 2 reveals that Sherman can gain the power to de-age himself, making the notion of a teenaged Sherman appearing in a futue future show not quite so Jossed as we might think! As for the Obnoxious Teen, with the timeline having moved forward he may no longer be in high school.
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Many have pointed out that '' Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' feels like alien invasion/zombie horror from the 60s and 70s (''Film/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers'', ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead''), while the emphasis on cults, Biblical apocalypse and CosmicHorror themes makes ''Black Friday'' feel more like the 80s and 90s (''Film/TheOmen'', ''Film/RosemarysBaby'', ''Series/TwinPeaks'', ''{{Literature/IT}}''). If NPMD follows the trend then it'll be about late 90s/early 2000s revival of interest in the slasher (''{{Film/Scream}}'') and GhostStory (''Film/TheRing'').
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Many have pointed out that '' Theatre/TheGuyWhoDidntLikeMusicals'' feels like alien invasion/zombie horror from the 60s and 70s (''Film/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers'', ''Film/NightOfTheLivingDead''), while the emphasis on cults, Biblical apocalypse apocalypse, and CosmicHorror themes makes ''Black Friday'' feel more like the 80s and 90s (''Film/TheOmen'', ''Film/RosemarysBaby'', ''Series/TwinPeaks'', ''{{Literature/IT}}''). If NPMD follows the trend then it'll be about the late 90s/early 2000s revival of interest in the slasher (''{{Film/Scream}}'') and GhostStory (''Film/TheRing'').
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As of this writing, two cast members have been announced for NPMD: Creator/CoreyDorris will be reprising the role of Mayor Solomon Lauter, who appeared briefly in two [=NMT2=] stories, and Creator/LaurenLopez will be Ruth Fleming, a new character described as "such a loser that telemarketers hang up on her". My theories relating to the show's cast:
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As of this writing, two cast members have been announced for NPMD: Creator/CoreyDorris will be reprising the role of Mayor Solomon Lauter, who appeared briefly in two [=NMT2=] stories, stories and Creator/LaurenLopez will be Ruth Fleming, a new character described as "such a loser that telemarketers hang up on her". My theories relating to the show's cast:
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* Creator/JoeyRichter will reprise the role of Brad Callahan, a JerkJock seen briefly in "Yellow Jacket". As it was originally intended for Peter to make his proper debut here and reveal Ted to be his brother later, Ted will not feature in this story -- even though we ''know'' of their relation now, he will have no plot-relevant role to play.
* Kim Whalen will return as Miss Holloway, having changed her name to Miss Holliday and become a guidance counselor in "Killer Track", this will be the status quo at the beginning of NPMD's timeline as well. If Miss Holliday appears, we can probably count on Curt Mega returning as Duke as well.
* With Lauren's main part announced, if Hannah appears, Kendall Nicole will return to the role. Though as Hannah is a freshman, who was only seen as a classmate of Brad and Steph in shop, she may be OutOfFocus if she appears at all; likewise for Creator/DylanSaunders as Tom appearing in his role of shop class teacher.
* Kim Whalen will return as Miss Holloway, having changed her name to Miss Holliday and become a guidance counselor in "Killer Track", this will be the status quo at the beginning of NPMD's timeline as well. If Miss Holliday appears, we can probably count on Curt Mega returning as Duke as well.
* With Lauren's main part announced, if Hannah appears, Kendall Nicole will return to the role. Though as Hannah is a freshman, who was only seen as a classmate of Brad and Steph in shop, she may be OutOfFocus if she appears at all; likewise for Creator/DylanSaunders as Tom appearing in his role of shop class teacher.
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* Creator/JoeyRichter will reprise the role of Brad Callahan, a JerkJock seen briefly in "Yellow Jacket". As it was originally intended for Peter to make his proper debut here and reveal Ted to be his brother later, Ted will not feature in this story -- even though we ''know'' of their relation relationship now, he will have no plot-relevant role to play.
* Kim Whalen will return as Miss Holloway, having changed her name to Miss Holliday andbecome becoming a guidance counselor in "Killer Track", this will be the status quo at the beginning of NPMD's timeline as well. If Miss Holliday appears, we can probably count on Curt Mega returning as Duke as well.
* With Lauren's main part announced, if Hannah appears, Kendall Nicole will return to the role. Though as Hannah is a freshman, who was only seen as a classmate of Brad and Steph inshop, shop class, she may be OutOfFocus if she appears at all; likewise for Creator/DylanSaunders as Tom appearing in his role of shop class teacher.
* Kim Whalen will return as Miss Holloway, having changed her name to Miss Holliday and
* With Lauren's main part announced, if Hannah appears, Kendall Nicole will return to the role. Though as Hannah is a freshman, who was only seen as a classmate of Brad and Steph in
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* While the idea of a high-school aged Sherman seemed to go against the mechanics of Hatchetfield's timelines following revelations in ''Nightmare Time'' season 1 -- but season 2 reveals that Sherman can gain the power to de-age himself, making the notion of a teenaged Sherman appearing in a futue show not quite so Jossed as we might think! As for the Obnoxious Teen, with the timeline having moved forward he may no longer be in high school.
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* Jossed; Ziggs debuts in "Perky's Buds" and is now a college student, making it unlikely for them to play a role in this high school story.
