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* ''Ahem.'' Don't you mean [[Main/JustForPun 'Siriusly!']]?

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* ''Ahem.'' Don't you mean [[Main/JustForPun [[{{Pun}} 'Siriusly!']]?
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** [[UpToEleven...Wow. I didn't think there was any worse way to cheapen Lily's sacrifice than the Deathly Hallows theory that she was actually Hedwig, but clearly I was wrong]].

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** [[UpToEleven...** ...Wow. I didn't think there was any worse way to cheapen Lily's sacrifice than the Deathly Hallows theory that she was actually Hedwig, but clearly I was wrong]].wrong.
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* No. At first glance both Franchise/HarryPotter and StarWars seem to be BlackAndWhiteMorality stories but the War is LightVersusDark applying BlueAndOrangeMorality. Snape is on the Light side = DD's side but LightIsNotGood.

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* He stands up to Voldemort when he believes the Dark Lord has won and refuses to join him.
* He pulls the Sword of Gryffindor out of the Sorting Hat and kills Nagini, weakening him to the point where he can be killed.

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* He stands Stands up to Voldemort when he believes the Dark Lord has won and refuses to join him.
* He pulls Pulls the Sword of Gryffindor out of the Sorting Hat and kills Nagini, weakening him Voldemort to the point where he can be killed.
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1. Neville having a subplot about learning to stand up for himself.
2. Neville tagging along with Harry, Ron and Hermione to the Midnight Duel and running into Fluffy.
3. Neville being put on detention alongside Harry, Hermione and Malfoy.
4. Neville helping Gryffindor win the House Cup when Dumbledore awards him with house points.

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1. * Neville having a subplot about learning to stand up for himself.
2. * Neville tagging along with Harry, Ron and Hermione to the Midnight Duel and running into Fluffy.
3. * Neville being put on detention alongside Harry, Hermione and Malfoy.
4. * Neville helping Gryffindor win the House Cup when Dumbledore awards him with house points.



1. Restarts Dumbledore's Army alongside Ginny and Luna.
2. Constantly rebels against the regime, even getting to the point where they considered killing him.
3. He stands up to Voldemort when he believes the Dark Lord has won and refuses to join him.
4. He pulls the Sword of Gryffindor out of the Sorting Hat and kills Nagini, weakening him to the point where he can be killed.

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1. * Restarts Dumbledore's Army alongside Ginny and Luna.
2. * Constantly rebels against the regime, even getting to the point where they considered killing him.
3. * He stands up to Voldemort when he believes the Dark Lord has won and refuses to join him.
4. * He pulls the Sword of Gryffindor out of the Sorting Hat and kills Nagini, weakening him to the point where he can be killed.
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[[WMG: Neville destroying one of the Horcruxes (Nagini) is a MythologyGag that dates back to the very first book.]]
Harry Potter had been in development since 1990, and like any book or film, etc, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it went through several drafts and ideas which ultimately got thrown out of the window]]. For example, one idea was that Hermione was Harry's step-sister.

It's not too far-fetched that the main trio was originally a main quartet in the form of Harry, Ron, Hermione and Neville. Not only that, but remnants of this original plot device were left over in The Philosopher's Stone. Examples include:

1. Neville having a subplot about learning to stand up for himself.
2. Neville tagging along with Harry, Ron and Hermione to the Midnight Duel and running into Fluffy.
3. Neville being put on detention alongside Harry, Hermione and Malfoy.
4. Neville helping Gryffindor win the House Cup when Dumbledore awards him with house points.

In a nice case of BookEnds, Neville arguably has an equally large role in The Deathly Hallows. He:

1. Restarts Dumbledore's Army alongside Ginny and Luna.
2. Constantly rebels against the regime, even getting to the point where they considered killing him.
3. He stands up to Voldemort when he believes the Dark Lord has won and refuses to join him.
4. He pulls the Sword of Gryffindor out of the Sorting Hat and kills Nagini, weakening him to the point where he can be killed.
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** Harmione sends her parents to Australia - which was a dominion of UK before WWII - to keep them safe. If she knew (and she ''would'' know) Voldemort can control the entire former British Empire by taking over UK, then she would have sent them somewhere safer, like the US.
** If the historical development of the Wizarding!British Empire and the Muggle!British Empire only diverged in WWII, then Australia was already an equal Commonwealth ''partner'' as per the Statute of Westminster and the Balfour Declaration. The Dominions were not subordinate, a huge part, in fact, of Chamberlain's pre-WWII diplomacy was done out of fear that the Dominions would remain neutral if they didn't feel enough had been done for peace. So it's possible an independent-but-affiliated Wizarding government in Canberra would refuse to back Voldemort, and could even do what Churchill planned for the Dominions to to in WWII if Britain was occupied; continue the battle for true government from overseas.

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** Harmione Hermione sends her parents to Australia - which was a dominion of UK before WWII - to keep them safe. If she knew (and she ''would'' know) Voldemort can control the entire former British Empire by taking over UK, then she would have sent them somewhere safer, like the US.
** If the historical development of the Wizarding!British Empire and the Muggle!British Empire only diverged in WWII, then Australia was already an equal Commonwealth ''partner'' as per the Statute of Westminster and the Balfour Declaration. The Dominions were not subordinate, subordinate; a huge part, in fact, of Chamberlain's pre-WWII diplomacy was done out of fear that the Dominions would remain neutral if they didn't feel enough had been done for peace. So it's possible an independent-but-affiliated Wizarding government in Canberra would refuse to back Voldemort, and could even do what Churchill planned for the Dominions to to do in WWII if Britain was occupied; continue the battle for true government from overseas.



In HBP, Harry starts having dreams about Ginny because of his growing (though largely repressed) romantic feelings for her, and it has been mentioned on a couple of occasions that Harry talks in his sleep. He may have dreamed about her over the summer out of lonesomeness and longing and Dudley can apparently hear him loud and clear, since he's able to taunt Harry about Cedric's death a couple years before, which he couldn't have otherwise known about. It is reasonable to assume that Dudley knows that Ginny is a young witch in school with Harry, and is apparently the object of Harry's affection. It is not known if he knows what she looks like,[[FieryRedhead her personality]] or that she's the younger sister of Fred and Gorge Weasley.

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In HBP, Harry starts having dreams about Ginny because of his growing (though largely repressed) romantic feelings for her, and it has been mentioned on a couple of occasions that Harry talks in his sleep. He may have dreamed about her over the summer out of lonesomeness and longing and Dudley can apparently hear him loud and clear, since he's able to taunt Harry about Cedric's death a couple years before, which he couldn't have otherwise known about. It is reasonable to assume that Dudley knows that Ginny is a young witch in school with Harry, and is apparently the object of Harry's affection. It is not known if he knows what she looks like,[[FieryRedhead like, [[FieryRedhead her personality]] personality]], or that she's the younger sister of Fred and Gorge Weasley.



Trelawney describes the eavesdropper's "rude interruption" as having happened ''after'' she felt a bit queasy -- an inconsequential queasiness that she still remembers some seventeen years later, mark you -- and, being totally oblivious to what had occurred, she has no reason to lie. Dumbledore, however, whose version is utterly incompatible with Trelawney's, has every reason to lie. This is also his Ironclad Reason, which explains why he won't discuss ''that'' with Harry, either. His understandable guilt regarding the incident inspires his mutterings in The Cave and his over-sheltering of Harry.

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Trelawney describes the eavesdropper's "rude interruption" as having happened ''after'' she felt a bit queasy -- an inconsequential queasiness that she still remembers some seventeen years later, mark you -- and, being totally oblivious to what had occurred, she has no reason to lie. Dumbledore, however, whose version is utterly incompatible with Trelawney's, has every reason to lie. This is also his Ironclad Reason, which explains why he won't discuss ''that'' with Harry, either. His understandable guilt regarding the incident inspires his mutterings in The Cave and his over-sheltering of Harry.



* [[spoiler: Pretty clearly not so. People remember Dumbledore as a young man, and it's established that Dumbledore went to Hogwarts like Harry or Ron.]]

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[[WMG: When Colin Creevey's parents saw ''Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheTwoTowers'' in theaters, they broke down in tears when Théoden was mourning Théodred.]]
Like Théodred, Colin only lived until he was a man, and then fell in battle.
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* No. At first glance both Franchise/HarryPotter and StarWars seem to be GoodVersusEvil stories but the War is LightVersusDark applying BlueAndOrangeMorality. Snape is on the Light side = DD's side but LightIsNotGood.

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[[WMG: If Lavender Brown '''somehow''' survived her injuries, she would have ended up as a werewolf.]]
Think about it. She was already in abysmal physical condition when Fenrir attacked her. A possible reason for Bill not getting infected in the Astronomy Tower battle in the previous book was that, given his physical health at the time, his body was able to stop the weakened werewolf genes from infecting him fully, similar how colds are less severe for healthy Muggles in the real world. However, Lavender Brown, on the brink of death, would not be able to stop the infection, and either would die or be left barely alive with a debilitating condition for the rest of her existence.
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Or rather, her married name is Umbridge, but her birth name is [[spoiler:Pettigrew]] and she is [[spoiler:Peter's sister before she got married]]. This is the real reason she hated Harry so much, as he had a hand in her brother's fate. This is also why she took the locket: she knew what it was, and wanted to use it as a tool to keep Voldemort from killing her brother outright.

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Or rather, her married name is Umbridge, but her birth name is [[spoiler:Pettigrew]] and she is [[spoiler:Peter's sister before she got married]]. This is the real reason she hated Harry so much, as he had a hand in her brother's fate. This is also why she took the locket: she knew what it was, and wanted to use it as a tool bargaining chip to keep Voldemort from killing her brother outright.
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Or rather, her married name is Umbridge, but her birth name is [[spoiler:Pettigrew]] and she is [[spoiler:Peter's sister before she got married]]. This is the real reason she hated Harry so much, as he had a hand in her brother's fate. This is also why she took the locket: she wanted to use it as a tool to keep Voldemort from killing her brother outright.

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Or rather, her married name is Umbridge, but her birth name is [[spoiler:Pettigrew]] and she is [[spoiler:Peter's sister before she got married]]. This is the real reason she hated Harry so much, as he had a hand in her brother's fate. This is also why she took the locket: she knew what it was, and wanted to use it as a tool to keep Voldemort from killing her brother outright.
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[[WMG: Umbridge isn't Umbridge]]
Or rather, her married name is Umbridge, but her birth name is [[spoiler:Pettigrew]] and she is [[spoiler:Peter's sister before she got married]]. This is the real reason she hated Harry so much, as he had a hand in her brother's fate. This is also why she took the locket: she wanted to use it as a tool to keep Voldemort from killing her brother outright.
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** The difference is that, even if he was technically free, Kreacher was allowed to continue to serve Harry. Being free doesn't necessarily mean being forbidden to do what you were ordered to do before.
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[[WMG:Horcruxes work like (and were inspired from) the [[LordOfTheRings Ring of Power]]]]

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[[WMG: Ron's experience with the Locket exposed him to enough of Voldemort's soul to make him a Parselmouth.]]
Like Ginny five years prior, and Harry for most of his life, Ron was able to speak Parseltongue because of his struggle against a fragment of Voldemort's soul.
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Rowling stated in an interview that Dudley was to have shown up with a magical child of his own. Presumably Vernon would have been present too with the sequence shown through his eyes as a CallBack to the opening of Philosopher's Stone.

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Rowling stated in an interview that Dudley was to have shown up with a magical child of his own. Presumably Vernon would have been present too with the sequence shown through his eyes as a CallBack to the very first chapter of Philosopher's Stone.

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[[WMG: The epilogue was originally supposed to have been from Uncle Vernon's point of view]]
Rowling stated in an interview that Dudley was to have shown up with a magical child of his own. Presumably Vernon would have been present too with the sequence shown through his eyes as a CallBack to the very first chapter of Philosopher's Stone.
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** Except Ron is a die-hard fan of the Chudley Cannons, whereas Dumbledore states that death will be coming for him as surely as the Cannons will finish at the bottom of that year's league.
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After all, Death was already holding the main portion of what was left of Tom. It was lying there under a bench screaming its head off. There’s no way that Tom was going to be getting up and walking away under his own power. But evidently, even though the Harrycrux was now gone, the connection between the two was somehow still active enough (probably something to do with the blood connection that Tom set up in GoF) that when Harry returned, he somehow dragged Tom along after him. Temporarily, at least.

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After all, Death was already holding the main portion of what was left of Tom. It was lying there under a bench screaming its head off. There’s no way that Tom was going to be getting up and walking away under his own power. But evidently, even though the Harrycrux was now gone, the connection between the two was somehow still active enough (probably something to do with the blood connection that Tom set up in GoF) [=GoF=]) that when Harry returned, he somehow dragged Tom along after him. Temporarily, at least.
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Apparently wand mastery actually is an issue, even though it reads like a pasted-on afterthought. But we did get at least two possibly deliberate hints all the way back in CoS One when Lockhart’s wand seems to have been actively trying to abandon him after his duel with Snape. A second in the events of Lockhear’s mindwipe. Lockheart picked up Ron’s backfiring wand and cast a memory charm, getting himself, we think. But is that really what happened? Or did that wand when used against it’s master, retaliate by exploding and sending the entire force of the obliviate back at Lockheart wiping all of Lockheart’s memories, in a way that’s beyond what we’ve witnessed from ‘’every single backfire’’ that wand has ever had. Also, how interesting that the explosion that caved in the tunnel only erased the mind of the spellcaster. Not the wand’s owner, not his friend.

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Apparently wand mastery actually is an issue, even though it reads like a pasted-on afterthought. But we did get at least two possibly deliberate hints all the way back in CoS [=CoS=] One when Lockhart’s wand seems to have been actively trying to abandon him after his duel with Snape. A second in the events of Lockhear’s mindwipe. Lockheart picked up Ron’s backfiring wand and cast a memory charm, getting himself, we think. But is that really what happened? Or did that wand when used against it’s master, retaliate by exploding and sending the entire force of the obliviate back at Lockheart wiping all of Lockheart’s memories, in a way that’s beyond what we’ve witnessed from ‘’every single backfire’’ that wand has ever had. Also, how interesting that the explosion that caved in the tunnel only erased the mind of the spellcaster. Not the wand’s owner, not his friend.



Indeed I think a part of the wandmaker’s craft must be designed to prevent anything of that sort taking place under anything but extraordinary circumstances. Magic is supposed to travel through a wand only in the one intended direction. The wand may not precisely be “aware” (not having a brain, after all) but it registers that *it* affects the target. The target does not affect it. Ron’s broken wand in CoS was defective in exactly that manner. The operator’s magic could not be depended upon to flow in the correct direction. And Ron was still registered as the owner. (more on registration in a minute.)

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Indeed I think a part of the wandmaker’s craft must be designed to prevent anything of that sort taking place under anything but extraordinary circumstances. Magic is supposed to travel through a wand only in the one intended direction. The wand may not precisely be “aware” (not having a brain, after all) but it registers that *it* affects the target. The target does not affect it. Ron’s broken wand in CoS [=CoS=] was defective in exactly that manner. The operator’s magic could not be depended upon to flow in the correct direction. And Ron was still registered as the owner. (more on registration in a minute.)
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But the fact is that Harry Potter demonstrably came back from the celestial Kings Cross Station the Master of the Elder wand. No curse that Tom sent at him from that point touched him. Or, apparently anyone else, more than momentarily — although it was at least able to do something. Tom aquitted himself very well dueling with Slughorn, McGonagall and Shacklebolt. If all he was working with was his own magic, using a hostile wand, then he must once have been every bit as formidable as everyone keeps trying to claim.

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But the fact is that Harry Potter demonstrably came back from the celestial Kings Cross Station the Master of the Elder wand. No curse that Tom sent at him from that point touched him. Or, apparently anyone else, more than momentarily — although it was at least able to do something. Tom aquitted himself very well dueling with Slughorn, McGonagall [=McGonagall=] and Shacklebolt. If all he was working with was his own magic, using a hostile wand, then he must once have been every bit as formidable as everyone keeps trying to claim.

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[[WMG: Crabbe met a horrible fate at the hands of You-Know-Who.]]
That's why he wasn't seen in the film of ''Deathly Hallows''. (Real reason was the actor's trouble with the law.)





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Of course there was a catch. There’s always a catch to a Prophecy.

Even given that this “Prophecy” manifestly *didn’t* play out the way the Prophecy claimed that it was supposed to — or not if you believe Harry Potter’s account of it, anyway — we still couldn’t identify the part that was a cheat. Or rather, the way of it that was a cheat.

We caught a lot of the other “true lies” related to that prophecy. We saw for ourselves that it wasn't that neither Tom nor Harry could ‘‘live’’, but that neither could ‘‘die’’ until the Harrycrux was disposed of. We had it paraded right under our noses that Harry’s power to form, or attract, human attachments clearly had nothing whatsoever to do with the final confrontation — although it does seem evident that he never would have made it to the ‘‘penultimate’’ confrontation without it. And an assurance that this was going to take Tom down gave Harry the nerve to submit to it. But that alone, in itself, didn’t do it.

But we did still know that there had to be a catch.

We’ve even all known from the very minute that it was first hinted — all the way back in Book 3 — that a Prophecy was even in the equation that Tom Riddle would be sure to manage to roll himself up by trying to dodge it. Also that if Harry Potter had a power that Tom “knew not” then you could bet 10 to 1 Tom Riddle had probably given it to him.

But Harry Potter’s allegedly exceptional power to love the wizarding world out of Voldemort’s clutches never really materialized. He's a self-absorbed little clod right to the final page of the final book. And it wasn’t the Prophecy demons that sent us off on that particular wild goose chase. It was Albus.

Indeed, Harry Potter’s whole exceptional power of Love™ ultimately appears to be just another exercise in Albus Dumbledore’s policy of flannel-mouthed flattery, to butter the kid up and make him feel good about his allotted rôle.

After having shoved him into it.

Which of course isn’t to say that Harry Potter didn’t have a power that Tom couldn’t access.

Because he oh-but-definitely did.

It just wasn’t a power that Tom was unaware of. Our Tom was VERY well aware of that mysterious power. And he desperately *wanted* it for himself. On stage, in front of witnesses.

He just didn’t have a clue of how to get it.

Nor that Harry Potter had it.

Which is hardly surprising. That particular power hadn’t been in circulation for centuries. (if ever.)

And Tom lacked the evident qualification anyway.

Just like we all suspected, he’d given it to Harry.

Have you figured it out?

The power that Tom Riddle “knew not” was nothing less than the power to master the Elder wand.

Tom was hardly alone in that. Nobody else seems to have really understood how to do that either. Let alone have been able to.

Albus Dumbledore tap-danced around the subject with another load of flimflam and mock modesty about how no, he didn't really have the wand’s *mastery*, per se, but the wand had agreed to let him ‘‘use’’ it. Heavily larded with his own boasts of having only used it “for good”.

Gellert Grindelwald told us (and Tom) flat-out that he never had it. Period.

And for that matter, the wandmaker, Gregorovitch, who Gellert had stolen it from (and formally “defeated” with it as he escaped) claimed to have had the wand only “to study” which doesn’t sound to me like he was claiming the mastery of it either.

Are you detecting a pattern here?

Frankly, I don’t think that *anybody* has ‘‘ever’’ had the mastery of that wand. Certainly not anybody in living memory.

And, one suspects, quite probably not from its very beginnings either — particularly not if it really was given to someone by Death himself.

Antioch Peverill allegedly demanded an “unbeatable wand”. Not, you will notice, a wand that would make *him* unbeatable, even though that’s probably what he meant. Words are very important in magic, and ‘‘especially’’ when one is negotiating with a power such as, oh, ‘‘Death’’ for rewards for besting him.

By that token, all wands are probably “unbeatable”. You don’t defeat a wand, you defeat its holder. No, no one ever has beaten the Elder wand. After all, they're all gone and it’s still here.

It would be right up Death’s alley to have handed Peverill a supremely powerful wand that he would never have the wherewithal to actually master.

And that nobody else has ever mastered either. Although the holders of it have never let *that* piece of information out from under their hats. Indeed, a lot of them, like Antioch, probably never realized that inconvenient fact themselves.

But Harry actually believes that the wand obeyed him because he snatched somebody else’s wand out of his hand in a scuffle a few weeks earlier? Please. Draco Malfoy was no more the master of the Elder wand than Grindlewald, Snape, or Voldemort.

It must be admitted that if we’re dealing with technicalities we should downgrade this alleged unknown “Power” to a “unique advantage”, or more properly, a “gift” — because when the chips were down it wasn’t anything that Harry could actually invoke, or use. He just *had* it, at the very time when it counted.

And yet, even though it wasn’t thanks to anything that he inherently was, or anything that he was aware that he did, by the time of the showdown in the Great Hall, Harry Potter WAS unquestionably the Master of the Elder wand.

Obviously, we need to take a closer look both at the issue of wand “mastery”, and, just possibly the whole issue of the Elder wand itself, while we’re at it. Because however the business allegedly works with ordinary wands, it doesn’t work with that one. And no one (especially Rowling) seems to have considered that.

‘‘‘“Issue #1: Wand “Mastery”’’’
Apparently wand mastery actually is an issue, even though it reads like a pasted-on afterthought. But we did get at least two possibly deliberate hints all the way back in CoS One when Lockhart’s wand seems to have been actively trying to abandon him after his duel with Snape. A second in the events of Lockhear’s mindwipe. Lockheart picked up Ron’s backfiring wand and cast a memory charm, getting himself, we think. But is that really what happened? Or did that wand when used against it’s master, retaliate by exploding and sending the entire force of the obliviate back at Lockheart wiping all of Lockheart’s memories, in a way that’s beyond what we’ve witnessed from ‘’every single backfire’’ that wand has ever had. Also, how interesting that the explosion that caved in the tunnel only erased the mind of the spellcaster. Not the wand’s owner, not his friend.

But there aren’t any other such kinda/maybe hints to point at until we reached DHs, and by that point the whole business had to be laid on with a trowel in order to make her climax work.

But. Before you can have any hope of “mastering” a wand, you have to have a reasonably sound grasp of what a wand IS.

The basic parameters are:

Wands are designed as conduits for magical energies. And Magic is a form of energy, rather like electricity. It operates over a fairly wide range of something very much like a spectrum of tonal frequencies. Different types of spells are apparently known to transmit within certain ranges within the full potential “spectrum” (or, perhaps more properly “scale”). Consequently, Olivander *can* tell you that a certain wand will be good at charms, because he knows that the components of that wand will most easily conduct magic at the frequency that most charms operate.

An individual wizard or witch’s own personal magic also has its own native range of frequencies. Therefore, a wand which is a good match to the wizard *will* work better for him than one which conducts in a different magical harmonic range. He gets a higher signal to noise ratio from it. But still, any trained wizard ought to be able to conduct magic though any non-defective wand well enough to function. There was no need to suddenly make all wands behave as if they were suddenly defective in the final book to get the point across.

Okay. So. Carrying this a bit further into the question of “mastering” a wand which Rowling threw at us at the 49th minute of the 11th hour, and trying to make it somehow fit, let’s consider what wands are not.

Wands are not people. They are not alive. They’re tools. They do not have minds. They do not have feelings. They do not, properly speaking, have memories.

However, a conduit connects at both ends. And the energy doesn’t appear to be designed to travel in both directions. A wand delivers its holder’s magic to the target. It is not unreasonable to assume that there is a resonance which occurs when it actually connects with that target. This resonance may well set up a form of feedback which is maintained at least for the duration of the spell. Indeed, given that rather a lot of the spells we have seem wizards using are processes which must be maintained for an appreciable amount of time before the work — which may be composed of several different spells in sequence — is complete, it is extremely likely that a wand does indeed set up and register a relationship to whatever target its holder’s magic is affecting.

And since the magic the operator is conducting is traveling through the wand, to the target, it also registers what direction that energy is moving. The “polarity” so to speak. You do not want your magic to be forced back through your wand to you. We’ve seen that happen. It wasn’t fun for anyone involved. (And I’ll be getting back to that in a minute.)

Indeed I think a part of the wandmaker’s craft must be designed to prevent anything of that sort taking place under anything but extraordinary circumstances. Magic is supposed to travel through a wand only in the one intended direction. The wand may not precisely be “aware” (not having a brain, after all) but it registers that *it* affects the target. The target does not affect it. Ron’s broken wand in CoS was defective in exactly that manner. The operator’s magic could not be depended upon to flow in the correct direction. And Ron was still registered as the owner. (more on registration in a minute.)

And while they don’t have conscious memories (since they are not conscious) all wands build at least a temporary log of the spells that they have conducted, and the targets they have affected. The Priori Incantatum spell is designed to access this log. We've seen it do so.

We don’t know how long such a log really lasts. Probably not forever. It is most likely to get gradually overwritten by the records of subsequent spells with different targets. But it must remain “set” for the duration of an active spell, and it does not immediately reset when the spell is concluded. A witch or wizard quite often is going to be conducting more than one spell at the same selected target. Therefore, a wand retains some sort of resonance with its most recent targets. And the log does not completely reset when new targets are selected, either. the record is retained until it is overwritten by more recent spells.

Which means that if one wizard hexes another and the other physically snatches the wand and tries to hex him back, the polarity of the log’s registration of who is the target is going to make for interference. Ergo: the last time Hermione met up with Bellatrix, Bellatrix had her writhing on the floor in the throes of Crucio, and since Harry snatched that wand as well as the hawthorne one, the wand hasn't been used for any significant number other spells in the meantime to overwrite the log. Consequently, when Hermione picked up that wand and tried to use it, it was still registering her as the “target” not the “operator”, and she found it very difficult to get it to work. The polarity was wrong.

It is doubtful this log lasts forever. Data requires storage, and wands don’t have a lot of mass for storing an extensive log of their past spells. But if not overwritten it does last an appreciable amount of time. Voldemort’s yew wand was spitting up a log of spells cast over a dozen years earlier, and would have continued to do so had Harry not broken contact. So the information doesn’t simply fade over time. It needs to be overwritten. And the log of a 13-inch wand clearly can contain something like records of at least a dozen or so spells, because we saw them ourselves.

After a long enough interval, particularly if the wand remains in use, it probably will not continue to register someone as a “former” target, even if that person was one. But we do not know how long an interval that requires. Moreover, there are external factors which can erase the log. We noted no complaints from Hermione about Bellatrix’s balky wand after that wand had been taken through the Gringotts security waterfall. Indeed, she was using that wand to duel against Bellatrix herself before the end of the battle. And holding her own with it, too. A conscientious seller of used wands would probably know how to erase such a log before putting any used wand into his stock.

Or at any rate, this is probably how it should be interpreted to work for normal wands. But there is no reason to suppose that this necessarily also applies to the Elder wand. We have been given to understand that the Elder wand is unique. Indeed, we’ve every indication that it flatly doesn’t work like that, and it is probably a widespread mistake to expect it to. (We’ve still no good explanation for the amazing auto-wand of the Seven Potters, sequence. But I doubt that it had anything to do with Harry’s mastery of his own wand.)

So. Where does the Elder wand come into it? How is that one different from normal wands?

HOW did Harry manage to master the Elder wand?

Because obviously he did.
‘‘‘Issue #2: The Elder Wand’’’

Here is where we need to ignore anything Albus Dumbledore has to say about that wand — and for that matter, about Harry Potter. Albus was not in a position to know that wand’s true history. Nor was he willing to believe that it might be precisely what legend claimed it was. Albus doesn’t believe in a personified Death, and *he* certainly never claims to have been the “master” of that wand. Albus, after all, claims that the Elder wand was created by Antioch Peverill.

And I just do not see how a wizard such as what we are given to believe that Antioch Peverill was like, would create a wand that couldn’t be mastered, know that it couldn’t be mastered, and then boast about how it was unbeatable. So either he didn't create it, or he didn’t know he wasn't the master of it, or both.

No. I really do think that we may have to at least consider the possibility that the wand really was given to some fool wizard in a bargain with Death. (Or possibly in a negotiation with something *claiming* to be Death. In any case, some entity that is at least partially from the spirit plane, even though it manifestly is able to affect the physical one.)

And that the wand was booby-trapped.

Because if you reconsider the order of events as told in the story of the Three Brothers, Antioch Peverill demanded an unbeatable wand as a reward for escaping one of Death’s traps.

He didn’t win that wand in a fight. Death just created that wand and handed it to him.

And Peverill never was its Master.

‘‘Death’’ is its Master.

One thinks that humans, and particularly human wizards, ought to be a little more open-minded about other species’ interpretations of the concept of “ownership”. And perhaps they ought not to be *quite* so hasty to ascribe purely human traditions to anthropomorphicised allegorical entities. Certainly not when there is no shortage of other competing interpretations of the same concept among other sentient creatures who are also subject to the same entity, with all of whom you already have ample experience in dealing.

Like, say, Goblins?

Goblin views on property ownership may be very inconvenient to wizards, but they are hardly unfamiliar. And by Goblin law anything that is made belongs to its maker. Even if the maker allows (or in modern terms licenses) its use by others.

Think about it.

Death has no particular need of a wand. Death isn’t a wizard, after all. He isn't a human, either. Yes he deals with humans. He also deals with Goblins. And House Elves. And as many other races and species as you care to mention. He clearly had no objection to handing a wand out on a long-term loan to an endless succession of foolish wizards, however.

But it’s still his.

Except that for the rest of this lifetime, it’s Harry’s.

So what did Harry do to win the mastery of the Elder wand?

Isn’t it obvious?

He stood there in front of Tom to let Tom kill him. And Tom did kill him. Killed him and dropped him summarily into Death’s own country, into Death’s own keeping.

And then he picked himself up and walked back out.

Under his own power.

Which is probably the only thing that would have ever made an impression on that wand. Or, rather, on its log. That log could no longer record Harry as a target. He wasn’t dead. A wand only recognizes the target and the operator. No 3rd parties. So, it evidently recorded Harry as the operator. Even using an unblockable, unbeatable, permanent, failure-proof death spell on him, the wand hadn’t had any lasting effect on Harry.

Indeed, that was always the whole point of all the nonsense in attendance to the “Deathly” Hallows. In order to “master” Death, you have to master *Death*. Whether you happen to have physical possession of all three of the fool Hallows at the time is immaterial. Mastery over something and control of it are two different things.

And we are given to believe Harry’d never have been able to get up and walk back out if the Harrycrux hadn’t been there to help spread the impact of Tom’s curse. That curse did kill the Harrycrux. Wiped it out completely. I’ll get back to that modifier at the top of the paragraph later.

But even if you can theoretically kill two people with one arrow, or one bullet, you evidently cannot kill two people with one AK.

And, since the connection between Harry and Tom was still live, and open, when he hit Harry with that AK Tom got hauled into Death’s keeping as well.

And Harry *could* have let it kill him, too. He really did have a choice about whether or not to go back.

And if he had chosen NOT to go back. I suspect that Tom would have never regained consciousness. And then, when someone killed the snake, Death would have “taken him for his own”.

After all, Death was already holding the main portion of what was left of Tom. It was lying there under a bench screaming its head off. There’s no way that Tom was going to be getting up and walking away under his own power. But evidently, even though the Harrycrux was now gone, the connection between the two was somehow still active enough (probably something to do with the blood connection that Tom set up in GoF) that when Harry returned, he somehow dragged Tom along after him. Temporarily, at least.

Of course Albus hadn’t a clue. He doesn’t believe in a personified Death (who evidently hasn’t bothered to come out and have a chat with Albus. Death is probably quite unimpressed with Albus). Harry doesn’t have a clue either, or he’d never have spouted that load of bilge about having snatched the mastery from Draco Malfoy (oh Puh-leeze!). And apparently, for that matter neither does Rowling.

But the fact is that Harry Potter demonstrably came back from the celestial Kings Cross Station the Master of the Elder wand. No curse that Tom sent at him from that point touched him. Or, apparently anyone else, more than momentarily — although it was at least able to do something. Tom aquitted himself very well dueling with Slughorn, McGonagall and Shacklebolt. If all he was working with was his own magic, using a hostile wand, then he must once have been every bit as formidable as everyone keeps trying to claim.

But look at the log: that wand had just killed Tom Riddle. The Harrycrux was Tom Riddle. And furthermore, it was dead. More to the point, it was a piece of Tom Riddle that was *still connected* to the one still walking around and trying to use that wand. Who in the wand’s log now solidly registered Tom Riddle as a target. A dead target.

Which is where I suspect that the real uniqueness of the Elder wand may be confusing the issue. Death handed that wand to Peverill and Peverill expected it to work for him.

But Peverill was a designated target. ALL living wizards are designated targets to the original Master of that wand.

But it will function for any of them. It doesn’t invoke the polarity reversal of a normal wand when a target picks it up and tries to use it. It just won’t enhance their own native powers. And it doesn’t give them any clue as to the fact that they are the target.

But it won’t work against its Master. And they cannot force it to.

So Harry Potter will either be killed in the course of his Auror duties by some other wand, or he may die in his bed at an advanced age. And in either case, he will take the Mastery of that wand back out of the world with him.

Tom was absolutely not the boss of that wand. And unlike Gregorovitch or Grindelwald, who realized when they were beaten, or Albus — who Gellert may have warned about the matter when he turned it over — and settled for mere cooperation, Tom just stubbornly kept trying. I’m a bit surprised he even managed to set the Hat on fire. And even at that, Neville doesn’t seem to have been burnt.

(And we’re told outright that the Hat is still in service 19 years later.)

So how was that again?
-->“…and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not…”
How’s about we try it; “and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, and he ‘‘will’’ have power the Dark Lord knows not”? He was handed it when Lily bargained for the life of her son, her life in trade for his, and Tom killed her, accepting the bargain.

From that moment on, his spells never work directly against Harry. If he’d just let a DE kill harry for him, then his problem would be over. But he had to go and make it personal, make a production of it. Lord Voldemort has to kill Harry Potter before witnesses.

But Tom Riddle can no longer touch Harry Potter directly with magic. That AK? It didn’t kill Harry. It killed the Horcrux, and Harry was dragged along for the ride. So Harry, at the time of his birth didn’t have the power. This is where that phrase, “he will” have the power comes into play.

He is given that power through two factors. His mother’s choice, and Riddle’s to kill her, handed it to him on a silver platter, making it impossible for a direct spell to kill Harry.

Handed it by the Dark Lord himself. That’s the way Prophecies always work. And for a bonus, if the Dark Lord had chosen Neville, but his mother had made the same bargain, then the “Power” would have remained the same, making whichever child untouchable by Riddle’s magic, but leaving behind the horcrucx, which resonates with the matching wand to riddles own, resulting in his quest for the Elder wand. (Not that he wouldn’t have anyway, mind. He’s that sort, but the brother wands certainly sped up the urgency of it.)

Which brings us right up to the final confrontation; an “unblock able” AK may ricochet off of a solid object (although we’ve never seen one do so. Generally they just damage the object), but it isn’t going to bounce off of another *spell*. Spells are not solid. Or not unless they are something like a shield spell, and Expeliarmus isn’t. Not unless *something* is in charge of that AK other than the caster. Or this is some amazing new variant of an AK that we’ve never heard of?

But frankly, any explanation for why the AK bounced off the Expeliarmus and yet *both* spells managed to travel in a straight line to solidly nail Tom instead of ricocheting off in two other directions like we’ve seen every other time two spells collide is stretched.

Or did they?
---> Harry saw Voldemort’s green jet meet his own spell, saw the Elder Wand fly high, dark against the sunrise, spinning across the enchanted ceiling like the head of Nagini, spinning through the air toward the master it would not kill, who had come to take full possession of it at last. And Harry, with the unerring skill of the Seeker, caught the wand in his free hand as Voldemort fell backward, arms splayed, the slit pupils of the scarlet eyes rolling upward.

Does that sound to you like the Elder wand began its flight when the spells collided?

Because it doesn’t to me. That wasn’t Voldemort getting struck by the green jet. The sequence of events looks to me like this:

They cast. The elder wand rips itself from Voldemort’s hand and flies. The spells collide, and vanish from the narrative complete, as if they canceled each other out. Or something else canceled them both. Possibly Death coming to claim Tom for his own?

And the Elder wand came spinning through the air toward the master it would not kill, who had come to take full possession of it at last. Harry thought that, but had no clue how right he had it.

And if Harry has any sense at all he will take that wand to the Ministry and pitch it straight through the veil right back to its original owner and get it out of circulation permanently. If Tom could take it out of Albus’s tomb so can someone else, and put it back into circulation even if they haven’t a hope of ever mastering it.

But in any case, it is clear that in the final reckoning, Ignotus Peverill isn’t the only wizard who will one day be meeting Death as an equal.

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The curse of Antioch, and all who held and used the Wand, was that they would die by violence.



The purpose of the Stone was not to summon the dead, but to summon Death – not to restore life, but to end it.

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The purpose of the Stone was is not to summon the dead, but to summon Death – not to restore life, but to end it.it.

There is my theory. The tale of the stone of suicide.
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[[WMG: The Suicide Stone]]
Everyone who picks up the Stone dies. So far, so good, right? Wrong! When Harry calls back the shades of his family, he look s at his mother, and his reaction is this:
--->His eyes feasted on her, and he thought that he would like to stand and look at her forever, and that would be enough.
Does that sound familiar? Like a certain mirror from the first book? Yup! But wait, there's more.
For this we need to step back and look at the history of it for a moment:

The Resurrection Stone.

Given by Death to the second of Three Brothers, who had asked for the power to recall others from death to life. Cadmus Peverell used it to recall the spirit of his dead beloved, but was so driven mad with longing for her specter, he despaired of living himself. Cadmus committed suicide. And so the stone lay hidden.

Albus Dumbledore is the next man known to possess the Stone, having destroyed the ring in order to reach the horcrux it contained. He held the Hallow for less than a year, Riddle's withering curse inexorably stealing away his life, before that night on the Astronomy Tower. But how did Dumbledore spend his last months, knowing his death was approaching? Rather than warn others in the Order, or prepare them to keep up the fight in his absence, Dumbledore spent most of the year arranging his own death.

Dumbledore allowed Malfoy to remain at Hogwarts, despite the danger to students and staff from his repeated assassination attempts. Dumbledore encouraged Snape to assist Malfoy in his mission, even ordering him to take the Unbreakable Vow. Dumbledore petrified Harry beneath the Cloak, so his protege would witness his dramatic final moments. Everything was arranged for one purpose: to ensure that Dumbledore would die on his own terms, at a time and place he chose, even if the hand and wand were not his own.

The curse of Antioch, and all who held and used the Wand, was that they would die by violence.

The curse of Cadmus, and all who held and used the Stone, was that they would take their own life.

---> He was not fetching them. They were fetching him.
There we have Harry's own thought when he calls up his family. Or rather, things that look like them. But they aren't. They all sound identical. The speech patterns of Lupin and Sirius are nothing like the men we've gotten to know over the books. They all encourage him onward to his death, speaking platitudes about how he has been so brave, and how'' he's nearly there.'' Does that sound like the parents who sacrificed their lives so that he could live?

And there's more: He fells as if life and everyone he loves are far away, as if they are the ghosts and he and the dead are the only real things, and ''as if his body is moving without his input, as if he's just a spectator.''

The purpose of the Stone was not to summon the dead, but to summon Death – not to restore life, but to end it.

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Put it this way. Voldemort takes over the U.K, which is treated as taking over the entire world, which implies that Britain's international standing in the Wizarding World is much greater than its standing in the Muggle one. Secondly, Grindelwald was "never powerful here", so presumably his reign of terror did not affect the UK too badly. Also, the Muggle British Empire fell due to two main reasons: Political awakening (both in terms of nationalism amongst the colonies and liberalism amongst the British) and WorldWarTwo causing economic harship. World War Two was not fought in the wizarding world, and political ideologies (especially with regard to human rights etc) as we understand them seem to be very different for wizards. So, as British muggles expanded across the globe, carving out their vast empire, wizards went with them, and, given the ascendancy of British muggles in the colonies, it was natural British wizards should rise to prominence. Ultimately, while the Muggles of India etc are no longer citizens of the Empire, the Wizards of these nations still are. Thus, Britain is the Wizarding World's superpower, and that is why Voldemort's takeover is treated as an act of world-conquering importance, rather than the oppression of a rainy island off Europe's coast.

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Put it this way. Voldemort takes over the U.K, which is treated as taking over the entire world, which implies that Britain's international standing in the Wizarding World is much greater than its standing in the Muggle one. Secondly, Grindelwald was "never powerful here", so presumably his reign of terror did not affect the UK too badly. Also, the Muggle British Empire fell due to two main reasons: Political awakening (both in terms of nationalism amongst the colonies and liberalism amongst the British) and WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII causing economic harship.hardship. World War Two was not fought in the wizarding world, and political ideologies (especially with regard to human rights etc) as we understand them seem to be very different for wizards. So, as British muggles expanded across the globe, carving out their vast empire, wizards went with them, and, given the ascendancy of British muggles in the colonies, it was natural British wizards should rise to prominence. Ultimately, while the Muggles of India etc are no longer citizens of the Empire, the Wizards of these nations still are. Thus, Britain is the Wizarding World's superpower, and that is why Voldemort's takeover is treated as an act of world-conquering importance, rather than the oppression of a rainy island off Europe's coast.

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