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...[[HorsemenOfTheApocalyse the Horseman]]. The one from ''Literature/GoodOmens'' and ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. No, that wasn't a spelling mistake, he's the same guy according to this troper. And also according to this troper, HP, GO, and SPN all exist in the same universe. Somehow.

Needless to say, fandom has seen these coincidences and run with them, ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'' (with Jean being Harry's second cousin and the relation between them being a key plot point) being one such example and Bobmin's ''Mutant Storm'' (with Jean being Harry's aunt and him coming into her custody) being another.

* James could also be related to the much nicer [[{{MASH}} Sherman T. Potter]] who was a respected military surgeon, a POW in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI and held the rank of Colonel in the KoreanWar. He later became the administer of a veteran's hospital.

[[WMG: The Evans sisters are kindred to the overly fussy Mrs. Bucket of ''KeepingUpAppearances.'']]

* Interesting theory, except there's one problem -- The Riddler isn't a cold-blooded killer. It would've been someone like Greyback or one of the Lestranges who were killing people during attempted muggings, since they had no-one to lead them. Riddle would've eventually been deformed, not by dividing his soul, but by [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker falling into a giant potions cauldron]].

> Colorado, The Overlook Hotel. A bogart lived in the hotel for decades driving one person after another insane. When the Bogart realized that Danny Torrance had magical potential it left the hotel afraid the wizards would come after it.
> The Babadook was a Bogart!
> Derry, Maine. Pennywise the Clown was a boggart.

[[WMG: The Potters are descendants of the [[ASongOfIceAndFire Baratheons]].]]

From the art book of TheMovie: Karl Kroenen was blond, intelligent and curious, good at dueling (fencing), a skilled occultist, one of the [[ManBehindTheMan men behind the man]] in the Nazi party, striving to enhance the human race (in a very gruesome way), most active during WW2, able to grow ridiculously old, and nigh-impossible to kill. From Book 7: Gellert Grindelwald was blond, intelligent and curious, good at dueling, a skilled wizard, perhaps was THE man behind the man (see above), striving to protect the human (muggle) race (in a very totalitarian way), most active around WW2, able to grow ridiculously old (in prison, granted, but still - he outlived Dumbledore by almost a year!), and very hard to kill (in his prime). That guy you saw in the UberWald prison tower? Just one of Karl Grindelwald's flesh puppets! He didn't die until a giant cog was dropped on him years later, and even then...!

[[WMG: He that should not be named [[{{Freakazoid}} needs more rope]].]]

[[{{Tommy}} Deaf and blind, he spent his convalescence playing pinball.]]

[[WMG: The Muggle Prime Minister in book 6 is [[YesMinister Jim Hacker]]]]

[[WMG: WizardsOfWaverlyPlace is the in the same universe.]]

** There's worse. You know how [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Games]] [[WarhammerFantasy Workshop]] is a British company....

* Hermione's persona is dominated by her Anger. She's highly competitive, easily frustrated, and sometimes prone to making bad choices when she gets indignant about unfair practices or circumstances. This, like Harry's Sadness, isn't a bad thing: she stands up for what she believes in, and is forthright in her outrage over Trelawney's blather. It's Hermione who speaks up for house-elves, who's attracted to the equally-hypercompetitive Krum, and who has the stubbornness to achieve payback against the likes of Rita Skeeter on her own, without even Harry's and Ron's help.

* This is now in my personal because canon 1) I find Puella Magi Madoka Magica to be SoCoolItsAwesome, 2) this makes Harry Potter creepier, [[NightmareFetishist which I like]], 3) wands remind me of Soul Gems, 4) Dumbledore's hair resembles Kyubey's ears and 5) (spoilers if you haven't seen episode 8) [[spoiler: that would make Voldemort the witch form of Tom Riddle.]]

ActorAllusion: Minerva McGonagall is somehow related to [[Series/DowntonAbbey Violet Crawley]] through her Muggle father who is descended from a distant, poorer branch of the Crawley family.

[[WMG: Parselmouths and the associated reputation for Dark Wizardry date back much farther than Salazar Slytherin, at least [[ConanTheBarbarian to to an age undreamed of, after the oceans drank Atlantis...]]]]

* In particular James is kindred to the evil banker Henry F. Potter, who dominates Bedford Falls in ''ItsAWonderfulLife''. As that Potter was not known to have children, his wealth most likely would have been distributed among any surviving family, including the unknown parents/grandparents of James, possibly the true origin of the wealth ultimately left to Harry.

[[WMG: Wands attract [[HisDarkMaterials Dust]], which is how they work.]]

To a lion, who is actually an Animagus, named [[ChuckNorris Chuck]]...

[[WMG: Luna Lovegood is a {{Claymore}}]]

* If Luna is a {{Claymore}}, then who's 'her' Raki? [[WildMassGuessing Neville Longbottom]] or Literature/HarryPotter?

* James could also be related to the much nicer [[{{MASH}} Sherman T. Potter]] who was a respected military surgeon, a POW in WorldWarI and held the rank of Colonel in the KoreanWar. He later became the administer of a veteran's hospital.

[[WMG: Harry is a [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi sorcerer]].]]

* As far as the crystal balls in divination, they could be made up from the crystals in the crystal cave. Likewise, the sand in the time-turner hourgl*** could be the ground up remains of [[spoiler:The crystals in the crystal cave]] meaning that he sand has limited power as the crystals are obviously not exactly a renewable resource.

Which is why the ministry can't replace the destroyed time turners: they need to wait for more of them to arrive on earth. Wizards could defeat Weeping Angels (relatively) easily if they knew about them, and they learned that a destroyed Weeping Angel retains some of it's temporal effects: the hourgl*** is mostly a focusing device.

Bright red hair - specifically red, not ginger - and green eyes is possibly the rarest hair and eye combination in the entire world. Furthermore, a considerable number of Jean Grey's canon ancestors were British. They're also described in very similar terms, both physically - beautiful, pale skinned, red headed and green eyed - and personality wise - kind, intelligent, protective and possessed of an extremely fiery temper. Both are notably powerful - in Lily's case, she's noted as a Charms and Potions prodigy and successfully defying Voldemort three times with James suggests that she was one of the most powerful witches of her generation. Jean kind of goes without saying. Also, they like dark haired guys with gl***es who were in love with them since they were children (though Scott [[CannotSpitItOut couldn't work up the courage to tell her]], unlike James).

** According to [[http://cheezburger.com/8468483328 this meme.]] [[MemeticBad*** they had a good reason to.]]

[[WMG: Magic works like Biotics from ''Franchise/M***Effect'']]
All wizards work by chanting incantations. These incantations first have to be spoken, or the thought of speaking them must cross the mind of the wizard. This thought triggers the firing of nerves, thus producing the desired effect. If you know how biotics work, it works about the same way, except in ''Franchise/M***Effect'', element zero is needed as a catalyst. In the wizarding community, since their ability is genetic, their neural structure allows them to create effects on the real world. Things like fire, simply the creation of a high density area where friction increases a great deal causing the oxygen to ignite. Unspoken magic? Simple. The non-verbal triggering of the neural structure.

* If Luna is a {{Claymore}}, then who's 'her' Raki? [[WildM***Guessing Neville Longbottom]] or Literature/HarryPotter?

Both girls, Lily and Petunia, are also named after flowers, not unlike sisters Hyacinth, Daisy, Violet, and Rose. Petunia is extremely particular about what the neighbors think of her, similar to Hyacinth's fretting about her social standing; both of them go to some length to keep peculiar relatives, whether magical or just low-cl***, away.

* ...Except the Magus ***ociation is based in London, at the Clock Tower. And that we now know what caused the fire, as of Fate/Zero

But wizards and mages are fundamentally different. They were the same at one point, however after the HGW system was developed, the split occurred. Those that wanted to be a part of the system and adjusted their means of using magic accordingly became mages, while those who did not want a part in the system became wizards and retained the old ways of using magic. This is why mages are more equipped with dealing with the muggle world than their wizard counterparts. Depending on where in the world you are, you will see more of one than the other (the UK has both, namely the mages ***ociation as well as the ministry of magic, but wizards are more prominent, and Japan has only mages)Since both groups look upon the other with disdain (wizards think mages are too cutthroat, mages think wizards are a joke), they barely come in contact with each other.

It might be possible. They live in a world where, apparently, their powers help in their very own technology. Harry is the chosen one and has a special mark that helps him out of troubles. Hermione is the curious girl that always is there to correct Nar-- err, Harry. She never felt in love for Sasuke, i.e. Draco. Rony might be Neji or Sai, and Ginny is Hinata. Neville is either Chouji or Rock Lee, and Luna might be Ino, or Tenten. Snape is a traumatized Kakashi, and what would confirm the theory that the bigger villain is Orochimaru... Voldemort. Just look at him! Temporarily unable to fight until his loyal ***istant/traitor recovers him. It makes one wonder if Minerva is Tsunade... Eww.

Apart from the [[http://www.pibbit.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/all.jpg physical]] [[http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dobby_the_house_elf.jpg similarities]] (mostly with regards to the Brown Minions), both species are described as slavish in their devotion to their masters, and with few exceptions, happy to carry out whatever tasks are ***igned to them without any regard to their own station. Most of the psychotic energy of the original Minion bloodlines was translated into an even stronger work ethic (with regards to menial labor) and a slight increase in IQ in the various groups of House Elf, at the loss of the Minion's tolerance for abuse. House Elf magic is an offshoot of the Blue Minion's powers.

[[WMG: Parselmouths and the ***ociated reputation for Dark Wizardry date back much farther than Salazar Slytherin, at least [[ConanTheBarbarian to to an age undreamed of, after the oceans drank Atlantis...]]]]

We know that boggarts ***ume the powers of whatever form they take. So, if a trekkie's worst fear is the Crystalline Entity, the Planet Killer, or the macrovirus, [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt well]]...

And it wasn't ''in'' M***achusetts, it was just ''named after'' [[NamesTheSame Salem]].

* For that matter, since Harry's sacrifice of himself out of love at the end of Deathly Hallows protects everyone at Hogwarts that means someone with sufficiently great comp***ion protecting the entire world from dark magic isn't even outside the system.

** Proceeds to manipulate the everloving *** out of Harry using Positive Tactics(e.g. Being apparently, really, really nice.)

** Or at least makes them a Jerk***.

Susan's husband and children died before her, because shes a Time Lord and can regenerate. Shes upset and uses a Tardis after becoming tired of waiting for her Grandfather. She lands in 1979 but her tardis is destroyed on the way and the tardis becomes a time-turner and can only use a little of Tardis's power, hence why it only goes back hours and we never saw her take a time-turner from the proffesor. Near death she regenerates into a tiny girl and is adopted by The Grangers, but the female Granger is actually the daughter of Susan's two teachers who became the Doctor's companions in the first series. So she regenerated into a witch at the time as well. Years p*** and she regenerates again before her fourth year (the movies show this by having her transformation from a mousy brown haired child into a blonde gorgeous woman) Her new personality also becomes more let loose as the books describe as 'character devlopment'. The reason why she knows all of the knowledge needed was because she and the Doctor learned a lot about the wizarding world in their travels together. Her two companions are Harry and Ron and she modified the Granger's memories not only to protect Harry but also to protect her existance as a Time lord and her home planet. Also she has a bag thats bigger on the inside.

Magic was originally granted to everyone who was willing to make a contract with the Incubators on their first visit thousands of years ago. This was then p***ed down genetically, creating the current community of magic users. Voldemort's lust for power led him to become the only "true" wizard, with darkness consuming him entirely. The Second Wizarding War was the culmination of the Incubators' recent efforts, resulting in an abundance of useable energy. To support this, the orignal Death Eaters were called the Knights of Walpurgis, a play on the Walpurgisnacht.

...And Harry is Alice. [[spoiler: In Through the Looking-Gl***, the Red King dreams reality. Now, remember that King’s Cross scene in Deathly Hallows? Well, what if the reason that Dumbledore was there was because it was all part of his dream…except Harry was dreaming him dreaming Harry’s dream. Dumbledore’s death symbolised his waking up, so that means Harry is the one who’s dream it is. Or is it? Anyway, that means that NOTHING that happened in all the books leading up to the Kings Cross scene actually happened. The only real bits are after Harry wakes up. Perhaps Dumbledore is God, testing Harry so he can proceed on to reality.]] This would work, since Lewis Carroll was a very religious person. And I’m religious too, so I just like to work God into things. See? It makes perfect sense!

* Both guys had an obsession with the same girl, one was an incredible stalker and very creepy, while the other was an obsessive, possessive {{jerk***}}. One was wildly accepted by society, the other severely ostracized. One watched from the shadows, while the other watched from nearby. They both bullied each other, mostly unprovoked, and both Phantom and Snape are given [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]] thanks to their actors, and both Raoul and James are hated and regarded as the worst choices between the two, though both have their share of fans. James was handsome and well-loved, while Phantom and Snape were the opposite. One lost his love forever, while the other scored that love. One made his love leave him by his actions, while the other charmed her. The relationships parallel those from ''The Phantom of the Opera'', except that Raoul and SNAPE were the childhood friends, rather than Raoul and James.

Interview of Flint ***erts that Cho married a nameless Muggle. How did he lose his name?

** or he pissed off Ginny enough that she permanently changed his skin colour. (Harry's too p***ive to actually do anything if Dudley insulted him some more)

**** Nope, she did make him look black and tossed him in a crowd of skinheads affiliated with the British National Party in the hopes of him getting his *** kicked. But since he's good in boxing and has also some skills in street fighting, he escapes them more or less unscathed.

[[WMG: Grindelwald founded, or was affiliated with, the [[Film/HotFuzz the Neighbourhood Watch ***ociation]].]]

Or at least the stupid ones. Ever wonder why [[Anime/BloodPlus Red Shield]] doesn't just send a sample of Chiropteran DNA to independent scientists, or [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy]] doesn't stake a vampire on live TV? Certainly it would make {{Hellsing}}'s job easier if people knew who they should call in the case of a vampire or werewolf attack, so why do organizations and individuals like these constantly go against their own best interests to uphold the Masquerade? Because they know that if they tried to tell people that magic and monsters are real, they'd get a pack of aurors on their *** erasing their evidence. And whenever you come across a Masquerade where the [[ExtraStrengthMasquerade how]] strains/breaks WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief, AWizardDidIt. Literally.

He has a few of the same mannerisms, is similarly obsessed with votes (although that could be said of any politician) and shares most of Hacker's salient characteristics. Sir Humphrey is a Squib born into an old pure-blood family, and was placed in the Muggle government to ***ist in smoothing over any problems between the two governments.

In England the Ministry of Magic uses rules and regulations to keep everything under control, not only do they keep up the masquerade they also stop demonic invasions and vampire outbreaks and stuff like that. In America instead of a Ministry and its rules and regulations there are the Hunters (from Supernatural) and home to the current Slayer who keeps *** under control. There are some witches and warlocks here and there but in America they tend to hid in plain sight in suburbs and such but just keep everything under wraps lest they know a group of Hunters or the Slayer would come after them.