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10th Apr '16 3:46:15 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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Phoebe dated (and later married) Mike in the last two seasons. Mike himself is a half-Petrelli --rich yuppie, and son of [[HeyItsThatGuy Angela Petrelli]] but from a different father. The core cast also has [[FriendsRentControl subversive]] [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex powers]] that very subtly [[RealityWarper warp reality]] [[HollywoodDateless in their favor]], but they're considered too [[WhatKindOfLamePowerisHeartAnyway weaksauce]] for either the Company, the government, Samuel, or Sylar to care about.
* Hrm, the son of Angela Petrelli and [[HeyItsThatGuy Charles Logan]]?

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Phoebe dated (and later married) Mike in the last two seasons. Mike himself is a half-Petrelli --rich yuppie, and son of [[HeyItsThatGuy Angela Petrelli]] Petrelli but from a different father. The core cast also has [[FriendsRentControl subversive]] [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex powers]] that very subtly [[RealityWarper warp reality]] [[HollywoodDateless in their favor]], but they're considered too [[WhatKindOfLamePowerisHeartAnyway weaksauce]] for either the Company, the government, Samuel, or Sylar to care about.
* Hrm, the son of Angela Petrelli and [[HeyItsThatGuy Charles Logan]]?
Logan?
23rd Dec '15 5:44:57 AM General_A_S
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[[WMG: Monica isn't Judy's daughter]]
Either they adopted her, despite Judy's ambivalence, because they didn't think they will be able to have more biological kids, or she is the result of Jack cheating on Judy, and Jack got custody of her.

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[[WMG: Monica isn't both Jack's and Judy's daughter]]
Either they adopted her, despite Judy's ambivalence, because they didn't think they will be able to have more biological kids, or she is the result of Jack cheating on Judy, and Jack got custody of her.
her, or most interestingly, the result of Judy cheating on Jack, which Judy is ashamed of and wants to forget.
15th Dec '15 4:21:27 AM General_A_S
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[[WMG: Monica isn't Judy's daughter]]
Either they adopted her, despite Judy's ambivalence, because they didn't think they will be able to have more biological kids, or she is the result of Jack cheating on Judy, and Jack got custody of her.

[[WMG: Chandler and Rachel didn't actually meet before the first episode]]

The fog of time makes the gang remember two Thanksgiving dinners and two parties as if they were one dinner and one party.
10th Aug '15 2:18:17 PM Leah423
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** That's clearly a joke made by the character and not meant to be taken seriously, but Rachel or the audience.
2nd May '15 12:21:31 AM epicparadox
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** She might not have binged and purged. Considering her competitive nature, obsession with food/anorexia/etc could have been combined with an unhealthy amount of exercise. People can basically get addicted to it, and it's often considered an "eating" disorder itself
4th Mar '15 7:21:42 PM PrincessGwen
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4th Mar '15 7:21:38 PM PrincessGwen
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From what we see of Charles and Nora neither of them ever wanted to get married: They both admit to sleeping with the best man ''before'' their wedding indicating Charles already knew he was gay and Nora was interested in other men. So the only reason they went through with it was because they'd slept together, Nora had got pregnant and deciding against abortion and adoption, they were forced to get married. They both seem pretty rich (family money?) so their parents might have threatened to cut them off if they didn't get married and stay respectable. They stuck it out for a while, raised Chandler and then divorced. This explains why they neglected Chandler so much and his deep insecurity: he knows he was never wanted and the cause of his parents unhappy marriage. It's an ironic mirroring of Ross, the 'miracle baby' and a point of connection with Monica who also felt like she was never loved.

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From what we see of Charles and Nora neither of them ever wanted to get married: They both admit to sleeping with the best man ''before'' their wedding indicating Charles already knew he was gay and Nora was interested in other men. So the only reason they went through with it was because they'd slept together, Nora had got gotten pregnant and deciding against abortion and adoption, they were forced to get married. They both seem pretty rich (family money?) so their parents might have threatened to cut them off if they didn't get married and stay respectable. They stuck it out for a while, raised Chandler and then divorced. This explains why they neglected Chandler so much and his deep insecurity: he knows he was never wanted and the cause of his parents parents' unhappy marriage. It's an ironic mirroring of Ross, the 'miracle baby' and a point of connection with Monica who also felt like she was never loved.



* It's fairly obvious that if she didn't have a fully-fledged eating disorder, she always had issues with food, whether she was fat or thin. The whole 'I owe it to the chubby girl inside...I never let her eat' and the fact she chose a career of food preparation...

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* It's fairly obvious that if she didn't have a fully-fledged eating disorder, she always had issues with food, whether she was fat or thin. The whole 'I owe it to the chubby girl inside... I never let her eat' and the fact she chose a career of food preparation...



* Also, at one point, Rachel expresses a desire for a lover who could "Make (her) toes curl". And she wears stilettos and other fetishised footwear more often than Monica or Phoebe, though that could just be a side-effect of her being the "fashionable one".

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* Also, at one point, Rachel expresses a desire for a lover who could "Make (her) toes curl". And she wears stilettos and other fetishised fetishized footwear more often than Monica or Phoebe, though that could just be a side-effect of her being the "fashionable one".



** Doms and subs generally take those roles in play to express aspects of themselves they can't act out in real life. So Monica would submit to chandler.

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** Doms and subs generally take those roles in play to express aspects of themselves they can't act out in real life. So Monica would submit to chandler.Chandler.



* Phoebe knows she's psychic, she's said so before. Also likely precognitive as she predicts several future plot developments in a single conversation, with the unfulfilled ones still a possibility. Which means she is going to kill Ross in the future.

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* Phoebe knows she's psychic, she's said so before. Also likely precognitive as she predicts several future plot developments in a single conversation, with the unfulfilled ones are still a possibility. Which means she is going to kill Ross in the future.



Therefor Friends documents events that occur in an alternate universe.

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Therefor Therefore Friends documents events that occur in an alternate universe.



* There are several instances of ShipTeasing between Joey and Phoebe: Joey giving Phoebe 'the perfect kiss', Phoebe saying that she and Joey would get together as part of her plan, [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou Joey refusing to watch a porno which Phoebe apparently stars in]], and the episode where they drive Phoebe's taxi back to New York, just for starters. The writers were probably intending to hook them up at some point, but fan reaction was less than superb for whatever reason so they dropped it in favour of Mike.

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* There are several instances of ShipTeasing between Joey and Phoebe: Joey giving Phoebe 'the perfect kiss', Phoebe saying that she and Joey would get together as part of her plan, [[SleepsWithEveryoneButYou Joey refusing to watch a porno which Phoebe apparently stars in]], and the episode where they drive Phoebe's taxi back to New York, just for starters. The writers were probably intending to hook them up at some point, but fan reaction was less than superb for whatever reason so they dropped it in favour favor of Mike.



* Much like the previous entry, with much of the same evidence. He never acts on it because he's initially worried that she'll reject him because of his womanising ways, and later because she's so happy dating David, then Mike.

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* Much like the previous entry, with much of the same evidence. He never acts on it because he's initially worried that she'll reject him because of his womanising womanizing ways, and later because she's so happy dating David, then Mike.



[[WMG: Phoebe has Aspergers Syndrome.]]

She's very self centred, and she doesn't understand social norms as much as the rest of the group. Whenever someone pays her a compliment, most would reply with some form of thanks, Phoebe instead replies that she already knows. She also butts in on Monica and Rachel's hugs for the sake of it, even when she isn't involved.

She also uses her mother's death to get her own way over the most trivial things; it's Monica or Rachel who once mentions that Phoebe used her mother's death as an excuse to get the last muffin. Such a traumatic moment of her life shouldn't be treated so lightly, if Phoebe had Aspergers it would explain how she's able to be so flippant about it, she simply doesn't experience the same emotional link to it that others would.

It would also cover her more eccentric behaviour, not to mention how callous she is to Chandler right in front of him; granted Rachel does the same thing, but she does it behind his back. Another example is when she finds Monica's "soul mate", she just doesn't understand why Chandler's upset.

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[[WMG: Phoebe has Aspergers Asperger's Syndrome.]]

She's very self centred, centered, and she doesn't understand social norms as much as the rest of the group. Whenever someone pays her a compliment, most would reply with some form of thanks, Phoebe instead replies that she already knows. She also butts in on Monica and Rachel's hugs for the sake of it, even when she isn't involved.

She also uses her mother's death to get her own way over the most trivial things; it's Monica or Rachel who once mentions that Phoebe used her mother's death as an excuse to get the last muffin. Such a traumatic moment of her life shouldn't be treated so lightly, if Phoebe had Aspergers Asperger's it would explain how she's able to be so flippant about it, she simply doesn't experience the same emotional link to it that others would.

It would also cover her more eccentric behaviour, behavior, not to mention how callous she is to Chandler right in front of him; granted Rachel does the same thing, but she does it behind his back. Another example is when she finds Monica's "soul mate", she just doesn't understand why Chandler's upset.



** Although Ross says "they thought she was barren". This would indicate she was unable to conceive at all, it is different from having the type of body which regularly aborts foetuses.

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** Although Ross says "they thought she was barren". This would indicate she was unable to conceive at all, it is different from having the type of body which regularly aborts foetuses.fetuses.



** Or she wouldn't favour any of them because she knows how that feels, and with Chandler's help (who had repeatedly witnessed how hurt she was by her parents and would avoid that with his own kids), is able to love them all equally.

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** Or she wouldn't favour favor any of them because she knows how that feels, and with Chandler's help (who had repeatedly witnessed how hurt she was by her parents and would avoid that with his own kids), is able to love them all equally.



* Actually, she like, the sixth person to spit on Mussolini's hanging body. Admittedly, that doesn't really have any effect on your theory, but it's probably best to be accurate with the details.

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* Actually, she is like, the sixth person to spit on Mussolini's hanging body. Admittedly, that doesn't really have any effect on your theory, but it's probably best to be accurate with the details.
23rd Feb '15 4:32:11 PM LadyStormcrow
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It's implied throughout the series that Phoebe is bisexual, or at least feels attraction to women sometimes. She's admitted to spying on Monica naked when they lived together, and was all but hypnotized when she got an eyeful of her chest {"That woman has the breasts of a Greek goddess"). However, she's well aware that Monica is straight, and that they probably wouldn't work as a couple even if she wasn't, so she never admits her feelings.

Meanwhile, her increasing hostility to Chandler over the series is out of pure jealousy. They seemed to get along well enough in the early seasons, and it never seemed to bother Phoebe when Monica dated guys outside their circle of friends. But she turned borderline cruel to Chandler after they hooked up - because Monica had fallen in love with one of her closest friends, and it wasn't Phoebe.


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It's implied throughout the series that Phoebe is bisexual, or at least feels attraction to women sometimes. She's admitted to spying on Monica naked when they lived together, and was all but hypnotized when she got an eyeful of her chest {"That ("That woman has the breasts of a Greek goddess"). However, she's well aware that Monica is straight, and that they probably wouldn't work as a couple even if she wasn't, so she never admits her feelings.

Meanwhile, her increasing hostility to toward Chandler over the series is out of pure jealousy. They seemed to get along well enough in the early seasons, and it never seemed to bother Phoebe when Monica dated guys outside their circle of friends. But she turned borderline cruel to Chandler after they hooked up - because Monica had fallen in love with one of her closest friends, and it wasn't Phoebe.

23rd Feb '15 4:31:04 PM LadyStormcrow
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[[WMG: Phoebe secretly has feelings for Monica.]]
It's implied throughout the series that Phoebe is bisexual, or at least feels attraction to women sometimes. She's admitted to spying on Monica naked when they lived together, and was all but hypnotized when she got an eyeful of her chest {"That woman has the breasts of a Greek goddess"). However, she's well aware that Monica is straight, and that they probably wouldn't work as a couple even if she wasn't, so she never admits her feelings.

Meanwhile, her increasing hostility to Chandler over the series is out of pure jealousy. They seemed to get along well enough in the early seasons, and it never seemed to bother Phoebe when Monica dated guys outside their circle of friends. But she turned borderline cruel to Chandler after they hooked up - because Monica had fallen in love with one of her closest friends, and it wasn't Phoebe.

12th Jan '15 10:21:24 PM TeeEss
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** Yes, if all white women look the same to you, then Monica, Chandler, and Rachel's mothers all look alike. Otherwise, they have VERY different facial features.
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