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[[WMG: Eddie was being weaned off of antipsychotic medication when he met Chandler]]
Chandler met Eddie at random chance at a grocery store. His actions didn't seem off to Chandler then. When we first see Eddie, he seems perfectly normal. Next, he's telling Chandler the story of his breakup that scares Chandler, and showing that he may not all be there. Eventually he's completely crazy. He stares at Chandler in his sleep, he accuses Chandler of sleeping with his ex-girlfriend and killing his fish after meeting her for about 2 minutes and handing him an empty tank. Eventually he's completely broken from reality. He keeps forgetting that Chandler asked him to move out, is stealing the heads off mannequins in the middle of stores, and sincerely thinks he and Chandler went on a road trip to Las Vegas. This seems to take place over the course of several weeks, possibly a few months. Seems like enough time for meds to gradually wear off and for his mental illness to return.
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Phoebe dated (and later married) Mike in the last two seasons. Mike himself is a half-Petrelli --rich yuppie, and son of Angela Petrelli but from a different father. The core cast also has [[FriendsRentControl subversive]] [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex powers]] that very subtly [[RealityWarper warp reality]] [[HollywoodDateless in their favor]], but they're considered too [[WhatKindOfLamePowerisHeartAnyway weaksauce]] for either the Company, the government, Samuel, or Sylar to care about.

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Phoebe dated (and later married) Mike in the last two seasons. Mike himself is a half-Petrelli --rich yuppie, and son of Angela Petrelli but from a different father. The core cast also has [[FriendsRentControl subversive]] [[EverybodyHasLotsOfSex powers]] that very subtly [[RealityWarper warp reality]] [[HollywoodDateless in their favor]], favor, but they're considered too [[WhatKindOfLamePowerisHeartAnyway weaksauce]] for either the Company, the government, Samuel, or Sylar to care about.
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[[WMG: The Friends represent the SevenDeadlySins]]
Although it's not as simple as it sounds - they manage to control their main flaw, but get stuck being characterized by another:
* Monica: Pride. Having controlled her gluttony during her teens, Monica's become hyper-competitive, controlling and egocentric. She takes special pride in her skills as a cook, which makes sense she can't eat as much of her own food as she'd like.
* Ross: Lust. Obsessing over the cool girl Rachel all those years, he was mostly envious. But, once his relationship with her went awry, he lost control, sleeping with Chloe, having multiple divorces, dating students, even sleeping with Janice.
* Joey: Gluttony. At first, Joey was a lothario who didn't want to settle down and was afraid of commitment. As he got older and started looking for more meaningful relationships, food became his big obsession - what do you call a guy who can eat an entire turkey in a day?
* Rachel: Greed. Rachel went from a spoiled popular girl to a career-focused executive who had to earn all of her expensive clothing and accessories.
* Phoebe: Wrath. At first a lovable airhead who never worried about anything, Phoebe's sad childhood memories surfaced more and more often as she'd burst into angry shouting and cruel mockery towards her friends.
* Chandler: Sloth. After accepting a promotion at a job he disliked because the money was so good, Chandler regretted not doing something he was more passionate about. His disinterest led him to be transferred to Tulsa (a consequence of sleeping during a meeting) and eventually quitting. A kept man, he got an internship in an advertisement agency (the first idea he read on an extensive list) and his first successful account was based on how he felt too old and tired to understand the product. By the end of the series, he's too lazy to ever be on top during sex.
* Gunther: Envy. At first a BadBoss towards Rachel, he falls in love with her. He's not part of the group of friends, although he desperately wants to be - the perfect representation of envy.
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* Or, Monica has residual strength from losing all the weight.
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[[WMG: Phoebe is in love with Chandler.]]
It’s all but outright said that Phoebe is basically a child trapped in an adults body (she blurts things out that pop into her head no matter how cruel they may seem, is ridiculously sensitive to any and all criticism, she thought Santa Claus was real WELL into adulthood, hated PBS because muppets didn’t write her back, and thought Nestle Tollhouse was her grandmother’s cookie recipe). Throughout the series, she tends to treat Chandler one of two ways: completely ignoring him, or being outright cruel to him (she tried to break him and Monica up several times). Ignoring someone or being mean to them are EXACTLY what little kids do when they have a serious thing someone. Also, don’t forget that when it was revealed how much money he had, she OPENLY showed an attraction to him (“Hello Mr Bing.” “Money AND a backbone? Now that’s a Chandler I can get behind.”)
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** It could turn her relationship with Richard (and the jokes around it) into a ''very'' dark FunnyAneurysmMoment.

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** It could turn her relationship with Richard (and the jokes around it) into a ''very'' dark FunnyAneurysmMoment.moment.
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[[WMG: Monica is mtf transgender]]

Monica has an aggressive, dominating male personality. It is revealed that Monica is physically stronger than the other characters, male and female. The reason Monica makes Chandler accept his father as a tg before they get married is so that Monica will be sure that Chandler truly accepts her as a woman. Chandler and Monica obviously have to adopt. Also sad, as Jack and Judy clearly favor Ross, and are awkward around Monica, their own child.
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[[WMG: Phoebe has Asperger's Syndrome.]]

She's very self centered, and she doesn't understand social norms as much as the rest of the group. Whenever someone pays her a compliment, most would reply with some form of thanks, Phoebe instead replies that she already knows. She also butts in on Monica and Rachel's hugs for the sake of it, even when she isn't involved.

She also uses her mother's death to get her own way over the most trivial things; it's Monica or Rachel who once mentions that Phoebe used her mother's death as an excuse to get the last muffin. Such a traumatic moment of her life shouldn't be treated so lightly, if Phoebe had Asperger's it would explain how she's able to be so flippant about it, she simply doesn't experience the same emotional link to it that others would.

It would also cover her more eccentric behavior, not to mention how callous she is to Chandler right in front of him; granted Rachel does the same thing, but she does it behind his back. Another example is when she finds Monica's "soul mate", she just doesn't understand why Chandler's upset.

Furthermore, she is quiet LiteralMinded and somewhat SarcasmBlind.
** No. She doesn't. If you work with people with autism and Asperger's, you would know that she clearly doesn't. She may be improperly socialized from having atypical peer groups, though. At one point, her mother worked on barges, and she stayed on the barges, or docks with her mother, and very few child peers, other than her twin, with whom she doesn't get along. Then through various parental traumas, she was tossed around to her grandmother, or living on the streets. She was never in one place very long. She probably had really poor childhood nutrition. Some people with backgrounds like that are very low-functioning, but don't technically have anything wrong with them.
** Ursula, on the other hand, does behave like there really is something wrong with her, but not Asperger's. She acts like she's had a serious head injury, at some point. She has real problems with her memory. She fell off the barge.
** Phoebe does ''not have'' AS. People with AS are not self-centered, in fact they tend to be extremely caring of others. Traumatic events are not treated flippantly, and people with AS are rarely, if ever, callous. What ''can'' happen is that the person with AS simply doesn't react in the way that most other people would, or that their reaction is largely internalized, or both. Further, people with AS commonly ''do'' understand why people are upset, just not what to do about it.
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\n* A LastHetRomance with more permanent consequences than they intended?

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* What about the unagi episode? In the end it shows Rachel and Phoebe in Central Perk lamenting that the couch is occupied by strangers.
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Furthermore, she is quiet LiteralMinded and somewhat SarcasmBlind.
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* Binge Eating Disorder is an eating disorder too. So she definetely had one.
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*** It might have been a run of the episode that was EditedForSyndication. If you meant the joke was adding that part of the line, it was not (I remember the entire line, too, except that it was ''Chandler'' she was talking about). If you mean the joke of the line itself, it's playing on the AmbiguouslyGay attributes of Chandler (or Joey), and Phoebe being TheDitz.

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*** It might have been a run of the episode that was EditedForSyndication. If you meant the joke was adding that part of the line, it was not (I remember (remembering the entire line, too, except that it was ''Chandler'' she was talking about). If you mean the joke of the line itself, it's playing on the AmbiguouslyGay attributes of Chandler (or Joey), and Phoebe being TheDitz.



Now, all of the main six have had HoYay with each other, but Phoebe outright fantasizes about Monica's cousin and kisses Rachel "to see what all the fuss was about". And she's practically an EthicalSlut anyway, so is probably more open minded about such things than the others...I dunno. Just a thought.

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Now, all of the main six have had HoYay with each other, but Phoebe outright fantasizes about Monica's cousin and kisses Rachel "to see what all the fuss was about". And she's practically an EthicalSlut anyway, so is probably more open minded about such things than the others...I dunno. Just a thought.



** This troper ''has'' AS, and believe me Phoebe does ''not''. People with AS are not self-centered, in fact they tend to be extremely caring of others. Traumatic events are not treated flippantly, and people with AS are rarely, if ever, callous. What ''can'' happen is that the person with AS simply doesn't react in the way that most other people would, or that their reaction is largely internalized, or both. Further, people with AS commonly ''do'' understand why people are upset, just not what to do about it.

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** This troper ''has'' AS, and believe me ** Phoebe does ''not''.''not have'' AS. People with AS are not self-centered, in fact they tend to be extremely caring of others. Traumatic events are not treated flippantly, and people with AS are rarely, if ever, callous. What ''can'' happen is that the person with AS simply doesn't react in the way that most other people would, or that their reaction is largely internalized, or both. Further, people with AS commonly ''do'' understand why people are upset, just not what to do about it.



From what we've heard Ross had a tendency to act out when he thought Monica was getting more attention than him ([[AttentionWhore "pulling his testicles", "tucking his willie between his legs"]]) and eventually Jack and Judy probably realized that to get him to behave they'd need to give him more attention, you'd think he'd have grown out of it by now but in "The One Were Rosita Dies" to spite [[CallingTheOldManOut laying into his dad for favoring him]] he freaked out when he gave her the Porsche instead of him and although he acts sympathetic to her when their not around he still reviles in all there compliments while doing basically nothing to get them to ease of Monica. Maybe they only gush over him to protect his fragile ego, I know he claims he was a "medical marvel" but when at dinner with Chandler and Monica Jack passively tells them how they had to get married because Ross was an unplanned pregnancy and Monica claimed this wasn't the first time she herd that story. Also keep in mind how much nicer Jack is to Monica when Ross isn't around.

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From what we've heard Ross had a tendency to act out when he thought Monica was getting more attention than him ([[AttentionWhore "pulling his testicles", "tucking his willie between his legs"]]) and eventually Jack and Judy probably realized that to get him to behave they'd need to give him more attention, you'd think he'd have grown out of it by now but in "The One Were Rosita Dies" to spite [[CallingTheOldManOut laying into his dad for favoring him]] he freaked out when he gave her the Porsche instead of him and although he acts sympathetic to her when their not around he still reviles in all there compliments while doing basically nothing to get them to ease of Monica. Maybe they only gush over him to protect his fragile ego, I know he claims he was a "medical marvel" but when at dinner with Chandler and Monica Jack passively tells them how they had to get married because Ross was an unplanned pregnancy and Monica claimed this wasn't the first time she herd that story. Also keep in mind how much nicer Jack is to Monica when Ross isn't around.
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[[WMG: Agnela Delveccio's birth date is February 29.]]
This is how she could have dated Joey for three years without ever having a birthday.
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[[WMG: Joey knew ''exactly'' what he was doing when he made Chandler worry about Kathy cheating on him]]
Joey, for all his stupidity, has consistently doled out pretty decent relationship advice to the rest of the group. But soon after Chandler and Kathy start dating and he expresses discomfort about her explicit sex scene with a costar, Joey assures him that they can't be sleeping together off screen if they have great chemistry on-screen, because the opposite was true for him. Soon after, Chandler outright accuses Kathy of cheating and they have a huge fight and break up. Only then does Joey admit that his "chemistry" comments were just a theory. Chandler is stunned to realize that he unfairly accused his girlfriend of cheating and ruined their relationship for nothing.
Now, why on earth would Joey have said all that, knowing full well how insecure and neurotic Chandler is? Is it possible that despite what he initially said, that he actually ''was'' still angry at them for their indiscretion and said what he did in order to cause trouble for them?
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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will sublet it until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall simultaneously frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son, a womanizing musician. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest at Central Perk. The friends all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born.

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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will sublet it until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall simultaneously frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son, a womanizing musician. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest at Central Perk. The six friends all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born.
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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall simultaneously frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest at Central Perk. They all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.

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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent sublet it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall simultaneously frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan.son, a womanizing musician. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest at Central Perk. They The friends all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.
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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest at Central Perk. They all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.

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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall simultaneously frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest at Central Perk. They all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.
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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest of them at Central Park. They all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.

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At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest of them at Central Park.Perk. They all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.
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[[WMG: History will repeat itself.]]

At the end of the show, Monica still holds the lease to the apartment. She will rent it out until her daughter graduates college, whereupon Erica Bing will move into it with her friend Emma Green. Miraculously, the apartment across the hall frees up, to allow Jack Bing to settle there with Phoebe and Mike’s son Frank Hannigan. Meanwhile, Ben Willick moves into Ugly Naked Guy’s apartment, and Chandler Buffay meets up with the rest of them at Central Park. They all take turns babysitting Uncle Joeys first-born, after he at long last becomes a parent with a lesbian couple.
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[[WMG: Gunther keeps the Couch unoccupied for the gang]]

The Central Perk couch doesn't ever seem to be used by anyone other than the main characters and their friends/dates/relatives. There's even a small sign that says it's "reserved" for them. Why? Because Gunther, who's so in love with Rachel, does it to try and please her. Maybe the pilot was the ''first time'' they ever went to Central Perk to begin with. Rachel gets the job, and Gunther makes sure her friends always have the best spot in the house. It's worth mentioning that when Rachel's not around and Ross and Chandler are being bullied away from the couch, Gunther doesn't seem to care much - he hates Ross, after all.
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** This was before he was nearly lost his leg. He wasn't nearly as bitter or cynical. And we all know that you can't be bitter or cynical without a five-o'clock shadow!

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** This was before he was nearly lost his leg. He wasn't nearly as bitter or cynical. And we all know that you can't be bitter or cynical without a five-o'clock shadow!

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[[WMG: Gandalf isn't cool]]

Ross and Chandler keep mentioning their college friend Gandalf as a cool party dude, but, really, we only have ''their'' word he's not a dork - considering he's hanging out with the famously uncool Ross and Chandler, and his nickname is incredibly nerdy... not to mention the fact that, they never do get to see him cause...he got stuck in traffic.

Gandalf is, in reality, as average as Ross and Chandler, who exaggerate their college adventures. He probably sees Ross and Chandler as the cool ones, since they're making it big in the city and dating beautiful women. [[HeroOfAnotherStory He was probably exhausted on the day of the gridlock, and talked to his friends about how he's not as young as he used to be.]]

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[[WMG: Phoebe is, or at least believes herself to be, related to Albert Einstein]]

Phoebe's grandma keeps a picture of Einstein on her apartment, and Phoebe calls it a picture of her grandpa - implying, of course, that her grandma is lying about him, just as she lied about Phoebe's dad being a "tree surgeon". But, maybe her grandma ''isn't'' lying - Einstein did sleep around quite a bit, and Phoebe's just nutty enough to never mention her grandfather's Einstein... Besides, if her grandma's willing to lie about who the grandfather is, what's stopping her from ''claiming'' it's Einstein? Phoebe has believed bigger lies.

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** Thanks to Pete's career as an UFC fighter AND billionaire, he befriended [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]]. Tony is so rich and powerful that the best Pete could achieve was being his bodyguard... of course, he was ''Happy'' with just that much.

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This troper is bisexual herself, by the way.

It seems unlikely to this LGBT troper that Carol would have preferred to identify as lesbian than bisexual in 1990s America. It also makes Carol's cheating on Ross far less forgivable, and removes the sole reason provided why she would ultimately choose Susan over Ross.

Carol might have been genuinely in love with Ross in an emotional manner, but didn’t realize she was more attracted to women in a physical way until after they were married.

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\nThis troper is bisexual herself, by the way.\n\n* It seems unlikely to this LGBT troper that Carol would have preferred to identify as lesbian than bisexual in 1990s America. It also makes Carol's cheating on Ross far less forgivable, and removes the sole reason provided why she would ultimately choose Susan over Ross. \n\n
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Carol might have been genuinely in love with Ross in an emotional manner, but didn’t realize she was more attracted to women in a physical way until after they were married.
* Susan's inexplicable distaste for Ross might be explained by her worrying that Carol will realize that she is bisexual instead of homosexual and want to go back to him. Ross' constant presence in their lives is threatening to her.

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