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26th Jul '17 8:45:43 AM lakingsif
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26th Jul '17 8:45:25 AM lakingsif
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17th Jul '17 12:35:08 PM rtozier2011
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It's implied throughout the series that Phoebe is bisexual, or at least feels attraction to women sometimes. She immediately chose Rachel over Monica when asked who she would have as her girlfriend; Ross suggested explicitly in early Season 6 that Phoebe's secret love for Rachel was what was driving her to suggest that Ross still loved Rachel; Phoebe kissed Rachel unsolicitedly, claiming she wanted to see 'what all the fuss was about'; a large proportion of Ross and Rachel's later-season romantic encounters can be traced back to Phoebe pushing them together, in the final episode and after Rachel had the baby, despite Ross and Rachel's repeatedly established dysfunction as a couple; Phoebe pushing them together could be explained as Phoebe compensating for her feelings for Rachel (and for having the same feelings of guilt as Joey had for falling for Ross's ex) by projecting her feelings for Rachel onto Ross.

Meanwhile, her increasing hostility toward Chandler over the series is out of pure jealousy: jealousy that he acted on his secret feelings and successfully pursued the woman he loved, while she feels continually compelled not to pursue Rachel out of fear of offending Ross.

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It's implied throughout the series that Phoebe is bisexual, or at least feels attraction to women sometimes. She immediately chose Rachel over Monica when asked who she would have as her girlfriend; Ross suggested explicitly in early Season 6 that Phoebe's secret love for Rachel was what was driving her to suggest that Ross still loved Rachel; Phoebe kissed Rachel unsolicitedly, claiming she wanted to see 'what all the fuss was about'; about', and reacted to news that Rachel had kissed a woman by classifying her as lesbian, perhaps out of optimism; a large proportion of Ross and Rachel's later-season romantic encounters can be traced back to Phoebe pushing them together, in the final episode and after Rachel had the baby, despite Ross and Rachel's repeatedly established dysfunction as a couple; Phoebe pushing them together could be explained as Phoebe compensating for her feelings for Rachel (and for having the same feelings of guilt as Joey had for falling for Ross's ex) by projecting her feelings for Rachel onto Ross.

Meanwhile, her increasing hostility toward Chandler over the series is out of pure jealousy: jealousy that he acted on his secret feelings and successfully pursued the woman he loved, while she feels continually compelled not to pursue Rachel out of fear of offending Ross.Ross (and Rachel's perceived heterosexuality).
17th Jul '17 12:31:58 PM rtozier2011
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[[WMG: Phoebe secretly has feelings for Rachel.]]
It's implied throughout the series that Phoebe is bisexual, or at least feels attraction to women sometimes. She immediately chose Rachel over Monica when asked who she would have as her girlfriend; Ross suggested explicitly in early Season 6 that Phoebe's secret love for Rachel was what was driving her to suggest that Ross still loved Rachel; Phoebe kissed Rachel unsolicitedly, claiming she wanted to see 'what all the fuss was about'; a large proportion of Ross and Rachel's later-season romantic encounters can be traced back to Phoebe pushing them together, in the final episode and after Rachel had the baby, despite Ross and Rachel's repeatedly established dysfunction as a couple; Phoebe pushing them together could be explained as Phoebe compensating for her feelings for Rachel (and for having the same feelings of guilt as Joey had for falling for Ross's ex) by projecting her feelings for Rachel onto Ross.

Meanwhile, her increasing hostility toward Chandler over the series is out of pure jealousy: jealousy that he acted on his secret feelings and successfully pursued the woman he loved, while she feels continually compelled not to pursue Rachel out of fear of offending Ross.


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It seems unlikely to this LGBT troper that Carol would have preferred to identify as lesbian than bisexual in 1990s America. It also makes Carol's cheating on Ross far less forgivable, and removes the sole reason provided why she would ultimately choose Susan over Ross.
17th Jul '17 12:18:50 PM rtozier2011
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* In the ''Friends'' universe, psychic powers exist but are erratic, frequently getting future events backwards, like when Phoebe's psychic died after predicting Phoebe's death. In Phoebe's case, it's Monica and Chandler who will have the beautiful kids, Joey and Rachel who will be filthy rich (as an A-list Hollywood actor and the next Luis Vuitton), Ross who will develop a drinking problem (after Rachel becomes his fourth ex-wife and moves to Paris with his daughter), and Phoebe who will die, in 2032 as she predicted, killed by Ross telling a boring palaeontology story, as she once thought he might.
29th May '17 9:42:53 PM ArielLightning
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[[WMG: Carol is actually bisexual.]]

In "The One That Could Have Been", she still clearly has feelings for Ross. It seems entirely possible that she actually identifies as a lesbian to avoid the stigma that comes with bisexuality, mainly stereotypes concerning promiscuity and "needing to pick a side".

This troper is bisexual herself, by the way.
10th Apr '17 1:12:14 PM CosmicFerret
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* He gets absurdly excited at seeing the women in ''{{Baywatch}}'' even though he's supposedly scoring every night. Over-compensating?

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* He gets absurdly excited at seeing the women in ''{{Baywatch}}'' ''Series/{{Baywatch}}'' even though he's supposedly scoring every night. Over-compensating?
2nd Dec '16 4:09:23 PM DeanMT94
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** This troper ''has'' AS, and believe me Phoebe does ''not''. People with AS are not self-centered, in fact they tend to be extremely caring of others. Traumatic events are not treated flippantly, and people with AS are rarely, if ever, callous. What ''can'' happen is that the person with AS simply doesn't react in the way that most other people would, or that their reaction is largely internalized, or both. Further, people with AS commonly ''do'' understand why people are upset, just not what to do about it.
2nd Dec '16 4:03:03 PM DeanMT94
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** Take it from this father troper that you ''ABSOLUTELY CAN'' recognise your own child when you put them aside other babies. All babies look alike, ''except your own''.
18th Oct '16 5:13:17 PM nombretomado
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*** That line is definitely not on ''{{Friends}}'' DVD. On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time a show had two copies of an episode in existence with slight differences in editing.

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*** That line is definitely not on ''{{Friends}}'' ''Series/{{Friends}}'' DVD. On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time a show had two copies of an episode in existence with slight differences in editing.
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