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Similarly to the source material, with ''Foundation'' taking place far enough into the future that Earth itself (or its location and status as humanity's ancestral homeworld at least) has been lost to the proverbial [[{{TheFogOfAges}} mists of time]].
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Similarly to the source material, with ''Foundation'' taking place far enough into the future that Earth itself (or its location and status as humanity's ancestral homeworld at least) has been lost to the proverbial [[{{TheFogOfAges}} mists of time]].time]].
[[WMG: There is actually no such thing as souls.]]
That's just Luminist prejudice against cloning. Clones in the show aren't shown to be inherently lesser than normal people — the Cleons end up as monstrous as they are because they're clones of Cleon I, who wasn't exactly the most benevolent person to begin with, and because of the [[spoiler:regular memory editing and wiping by Demerzel]]. The real reason Cleon XIII saw no vision is because, as a non-Luminist, he didn't consider the trial sacred to begin with and only underwent it for political reason, and possibly because [[spoiler:Demerzel tampering with his mind left him, like all the other clone emperors, much poorer in lived experience than a normal person]].
[[WMG: There is actually no such thing as souls.]]
That's just Luminist prejudice against cloning. Clones in the show aren't shown to be inherently lesser than normal people — the Cleons end up as monstrous as they are because they're clones of Cleon I, who wasn't exactly the most benevolent person to begin with, and because of the [[spoiler:regular memory editing and wiping by Demerzel]]. The real reason Cleon XIII saw no vision is because, as a non-Luminist, he didn't consider the trial sacred to begin with and only underwent it for political reason, and possibly because [[spoiler:Demerzel tampering with his mind left him, like all the other clone emperors, much poorer in lived experience than a normal person]].
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Similarly to the source material, with ''Foundation'' taking place far enough into the future that Earth itself (or its location and status as humanity's ancestral homeworld at least) has been lost to the proverbial FogOfAges.
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Similarly to the source material, with ''Foundation'' taking place far enough into the future that Earth itself (or its location and status as humanity's ancestral homeworld at least) has been lost to the proverbial FogOfAges.[[{{TheFogOfAges}} mists of time]].
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* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several unaccounted-for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.
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* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several unaccounted-for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.conection.
[[WMG: This series takes place in the same universe as ''Film/IRobot''.]]
Similarly to the source material, with ''Foundation'' taking place far enough into the future that Earth itself (or its location and status as humanity's ancestral homeworld at least) has been lost to the proverbial FogOfAges.
[[WMG: This series takes place in the same universe as ''Film/IRobot''.]]
Similarly to the source material, with ''Foundation'' taking place far enough into the future that Earth itself (or its location and status as humanity's ancestral homeworld at least) has been lost to the proverbial FogOfAges.
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[[spoiler:While Demerzel was able to clone new versions of Dawn, Day and Dusk, she still didn't manage to kill off Cleon XVIII and Sareth before they eloped from Trantor. It is highly probable that their descendant, being the ''true'' heir to the Empire's throne, will one day rise up to invoke RightfulKingReturns on the Empire, since a true offspring to one of the clones is already implied to illegitimize the claims of any following Cleons in the Genetic Dynasty to the title of Emperor. Of course, Demerzel won't be willing to accept this turn of events due to her programming, so a future conflict might be inevitable, and it may be just that conflict that will end in Trantor being left in ruins, as Hari predicted.]]
[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a descendent of queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]
* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several unaccounted for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.
[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a descendent of queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]
* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several unaccounted for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.
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[[spoiler:While Demerzel was able to clone new versions of Dawn, Day Day, and Dusk, she still didn't manage to kill off Cleon XVIII and Sareth before they eloped from Trantor. It is highly probable that their descendant, being the ''true'' heir to the Empire's throne, will one day rise up to invoke RightfulKingReturns on the Empire, since a true offspring to one of the clones is already implied to illegitimize the claims of any following Cleons in the Genetic Dynasty to the title of Emperor. Of course, Demerzel won't be willing to accept this turn of events due to her programming, so a future conflict might be inevitable, and it may be just that conflict that will end in Trantor being left in ruins, as Hari predicted.]]
[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or adescendent descendant of queen Queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]
* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused severalunaccounted for unaccounted-for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.
[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a
* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several
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* Jossed, Azura doesn't appear or is even mentioned in the Season 2 premiere.
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* Jossed, Azura doesn't appear or is even get mentioned in the Season 2 premiere.
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[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a descendent of queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]
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[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a descendent of queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]]]
* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several unaccounted for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.
* Building on this base theory, there is a possibility that [[spoiler:CloneDegeneration caused several unaccounted for mutations in the Imperial genome. As such, it's a very real possibility that the heirs of Cleon XVIII may develop affinity for psychic powers, which would allow for the possibility of the Mule to be a descendant of Cleon XVIII.]] Now, I don't particularily believe this to be the case, and I don't think it would go home with the book readers either due to the nature of the Mule starting off as basically a nobody on the Galactic stage, but it's fun to at least discuss the potential conection.
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[[spoiler:While Demerzel was able to clone new versions of Dawn, Day and Dusk, she still didn't manage to kill off Cleon XVIII and Sareth before they eloped from Trantor. It is highly probable that their descendant, being the ''true'' heir to the Empire's throne, will one day rise up to invoke RightfulKingReturns on the Empire, since a true offspring to one of the clones is already implied to illegitimize the claims of any following Cleons in the Genetic Dynasty to the title of Emperor. Of course, Demerzel won't be willing to accept this turn of events due to her programming, so a future conflict might be inevitable, and it may be just that conflict that will end in Trantor being left in ruins, as Hari predicted.]]
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[[spoiler:While Demerzel was able to clone new versions of Dawn, Day and Dusk, she still didn't manage to kill off Cleon XVIII and Sareth before they eloped from Trantor. It is highly probable that their descendant, being the ''true'' heir to the Empire's throne, will one day rise up to invoke RightfulKingReturns on the Empire, since a true offspring to one of the clones is already implied to illegitimize the claims of any following Cleons in the Genetic Dynasty to the title of Emperor. Of course, Demerzel won't be willing to accept this turn of events due to her programming, so a future conflict might be inevitable, and it may be just that conflict that will end in Trantor being left in ruins, as Hari predicted.]]
[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a descendent of queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]
[[WMG: The Mule[[spoiler:is going to be revealed as the son or a descendent of queen Sareth and Cleon XVIII ]].]]
