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* Confirmed for Biggs, Jossed for Jessie and Wedge. Jessie only appears in flashbacks in ''Rebirth'', while the protorelic questiline in Cosmo Canyon confirms that Wedge died after falling from the Shinra Building. Biggs however gets [[spoiler:transported to the Terrier timeline because of Cloud's party defeating the grey whispers. There, he goes into hiding since he's the only AVALANCHE member still wanted, and a couple of conversations with Zack inspires him to go on a suicide mission to bomb Reactor 7. An offshoot reality, the Pug timeline, forms if Zack decided to go after him, where he is shown to get shot and killed by Shinra troopers.]]
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* 3. Mythril Mines
* 4. Under Junon and Junon
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* 4. Under Junon and
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* Interludes: Zack in the Terrier timeline
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Ultimately, ''Rebirth has fourteen chapters, which cover:
* 1. The Nibelheim Flashback
* 2. Kalm and the Chocobo Ranch
* 3. Mythril Mines
* 4. Under Junon and Junon
* 5. The ''Shinra-8''
* 6. Costa del Sol
* 7. Mt. Corel and North Corel
* 8. The Gold Saucer and Corel Prison
* 9. Gongaga and the Gongaga Reactor
* 10. Cosmo Canyon and the Cave/[[spoiler:Village]] of the Gi
* 11. Nibelheim, Mt. Nibel and Shinra Manor
* 12. Finding the Keystone and the Gold Saucer Date
* 13. The Temple of the Ancients
* 14. The Sleeping Forest and the Forgotten Capital
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He is after her to see if impregnated her again will produce a child as powerful as Sephiroth or would the child be weaker or stronger. Regardless it would give him data for his experiments.
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He is after her to see if impregnated impregnating her again will produce a child as powerful as Sephiroth or would the child be weaker or stronger. Regardless it would give him new data for his experiments.
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* Zig-zagged. While he doesn't join any actual cell of Avalanche (Barret's clique is [[spoiler:mostly dead in the Terrier timeline and with Cloud in the Beagle timeline]] while the HQ guys in INTERmission are in Cosmo Canyon), he does [[spoiler:interact with and helps Biggs, the only clique member alive in the Terrier timeline.]]
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* Zig-zagged. While he doesn't join any actual cell of Avalanche (Barret's clique is [[spoiler:mostly dead in the Terrier timeline and with Cloud in the Beagle timeline]] while the HQ guys in INTERmission [=INTERmission=] are in Cosmo Canyon), he does [[spoiler:interact with and helps Biggs, the only clique member alive in the Terrier timeline.]]
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* Jossed. Aerith is always the singer in the Loveless play, regardless if Rosa is played by her or Tifa (or Yuffie).
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* Anyone can accompany Cloud at the Gold Saucer, though only Tifa's and Aerith's (and [[PrecociousCrush Yuffie's, sort of]]) are romantic. Barret's, Red XIII's, and Cait Sith's (who brings Cid and Vincent along for the ride) are purely platonic.
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** Confirmed, at least in regards to her showing up. She is a main character in Gongaga, helping keep the villiage (and Zack's parents) safe and secure from any threat.
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Like Vito's flashbacks in The Godfather 2, or Laguna's story in Final Fantasy VIII.
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Like Vito's flashbacks in The Godfather 2, ''Film/TheGodfatherPartII'', or Laguna's story in Final Fantasy VIII.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII''.
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* Jossed. The fight got moved from Rocket Town to the Corel Desert, and he battles the party using the [[AnimalMech froglike]] Anuran Suppressor.
* Zig-zagged. All the things regarding the Tiny Bronco are Jossed, but he does put up a formidable fight thanks to him (barely) controlling a giant mech.
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While Cloud and the others seek out Sephiroth, Zack and the other Cloud will follow them. Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie will be in Zack's party. They finally cross paths at the City Of The Ancients, where Zack sees Sephiroth preparing to kill Aerith and dives in to save her. After Aerith realizes that her death had been prevented, the game ends with her asking Zack "what have you done?"
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While Cloud and the others seek out Sephiroth, Zack and the other Cloud will follow them. Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie will be in Zack's party. They finally cross paths at the City Of The Ancients, Forgotten Capital, where Zack sees Sephiroth preparing to kill Aerith and dives in to save her. After Aerith realizes that her death had been prevented, the game ends with her asking Zack "what have you done?"
* Mostly confirmed. Zack does have a series of interludes where he is playable, interacting with characters like Marlene, Elmyra, and Biggs. Wedge and Jessie don't appear though, and while [[spoiler:Zack does link up with Cloud during the final boss fight at the Forgotten Capital, everything regarding saving Aerith is Jossed.]]
* Mostly confirmed. Zack does have a series of interludes where he is playable, interacting with characters like Marlene, Elmyra, and Biggs. Wedge and Jessie don't appear though, and while [[spoiler:Zack does link up with Cloud during the final boss fight at the Forgotten Capital, everything regarding saving Aerith is Jossed.]]
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* Confirmed. However, the dancing minigame is during the military parade in Junon instead of at the Gold Saucer.
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* Jossed. Rocket Town is not visitable in ''Rebirth'', and the Materia Keeper is only fought once, during the Nibelheim flashback. It was moved there as part of various plot points in Rocket Town being scattered along the rest of the game.
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** [[https://twitter.com/ShinraArch/status/1715764170358997319 Seemingly Jossed]]
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* Jossed. He was confirmed dead.
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* [[spoiler:Jossed, the opposite actually happens. During the final boss fight against Sephiroth Reborn, he actually links up with Cloud and helps fight Sephiroth in one of the phases.]]
** Jossed. Rocket town is not visitable in ''Rebirth'', with its various elements scattered throughout the game.[[note]]Cid and the Tiny Bronco are introduced when going between Gongaga and Cosmo Canyon, the Materia Keeper fight was moved to the Nibelheim flashback, and the Palmer fight was moved to the Corel Desert, immedialy after the Dyne fight.[[/note]]
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** These last three are Jossed - the second game is going to end at the City of the Ancients.
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** These last three are Jossed - the second game is going to end at the City of the Ancients.Forgotten Capital.
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* Jossed.Jossed, as ''Rebirth'' ends at the Forgotten Capital.
* Zig-zagged. While he doesn't join any actual cell of Avalanche (Barret's clique is [[spoiler:mostly dead in the Terrier timeline and with Cloud in the Beagle timeline]] while the HQ guys in INTERmission are in Cosmo Canyon), he does [[spoiler:interact with and helps Biggs, the only clique member alive in the Terrier timeline.]]
** [[spoiler: Jossed. Sephiroth kills almost all to all Aeriths in the various timelines (''Rebirth'''s GainaxEnding makes it complicated on what he truly did), but he doesn't lay a finger on anyone other than Cloud and Aerith.]]
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[[WMG: The True final stage will not be the City of the Ancients or the North Crater (1st visit), but a symbolic, spiritual world representing Cloud's fragile will under the influence of Sephiroth ]]
* Jossed, they've confirmed that this one ends at the City of the Ancients.
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[[WMG: The True final stage will not be the City of the Ancients Forgotten Capital or the North Crater (1st visit), but a symbolic, spiritual world representing Cloud's fragile will under the influence of Sephiroth ]]
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* Zig-zagged. He doesn't officially declare war on Wutai ([[spoiler:in fact, Wutai and the "Shinra Resistance Committee" declares war on Shinra when Cloud and co. visit Nibelheim]]), but he does violate the ceasefire by firing Sister Ray as a show of force.
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[[WMG:The empty Holy materia fills up and helps summon some help]]
What with alternate timeline shenanigans, who isn't to say that the empty materia gets "filled up" by Cloud's experience throughout Part 3, and somehow eventually helps bring forth [[spoiler:''[[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren Advent Children]]'' Cloud during ''Remake'' Cloud's lowest point to help boost up his low self-esteem]]?
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* The Remake continuity is set for 3 games and by Rebirth's ending we've only reached the end of the original game's first disc. as such plus [[spoiler: Rebirth ending with Cloud secretly now carrying the Black Materia instead of Jenova or the actual clones plus the remaining possibility that the Sephiroth from the original timeline passing his knowledge to his past self]] this sets things to go vastly more different like Shinra trying different tactics or somehow holy being uninterrupted to Cloud character evolution happening without the breakdown or Meteor being abandoned for a very different doomday-style action.
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* Jossed, as there was no mention of either town.town, plus the fact that both towns' regions (Mideel and the Icicle Inn Area respectively) are only accessable after the timeframe of ''Rebirth''.
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* '''Icicle Area''': the two big visitable locations could likely be Bone Villiage and the Icicle Inn, with the Great Glacier and some connection to ''Rebirth'''s Northwoods area being possibilities.
* '''Mideel Area''': featuring Mideel Villiage, as well as potentially the ruins of Banora. Perhaps there can also be an entirely new settlement in the area where survivors relocate to after Ultima Weapon destroys Mideel.
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* '''Icicle Area''': the two big visitable locations could likely be Bone Villiage and the Icicle Inn, with the Great Glacier and some connection to ''Rebirth'''s Northwoods area being possibilities.
possibilities. Seeing as Cisnei appeared in ''Rebirth'' in Gongaga, Modeoheim could also be visitable to tie in more things introduced in ''Crisis Core''.
* '''Mideel Area''': featuring Mideel Villiage, as well as potentially the ruins ofBanora.Banora from ''Crisis Core''. Perhaps there can also be an entirely new settlement in the area where survivors relocate to after Ultima Weapon destroys Mideel.
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[[WMG:Marlene will be able to sense Aerith.]]
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In the ending cutscene, Nanaki can potentially sense the Aerith seen by Cloud, despite him seeing that she was killed. As both him and Marlene both recieved bits of clairvoyance through their encounters with Aerith, one can put two and two together and say that she would also be able to sense what Cloud sees.
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[[WMG:Marlene will be revealed to have Cetra heritage]]
It would explain why she has knowledge of the future.
It would explain why she has knowledge of the future.
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A rather conservative one, but a prediction nonetheless. It posits that in addition to the six explorable regions in ''Rebirth''[[note]]The Grasslands, Junon, Corel, Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, and Nibel.[[/note]], there will be more added throughout ''Final Fantasy VII'''s world. Some potential possibilities include:
* Icicle Area, featuring places like the Icicle Inn, Bone Village, and perhaps the Forgotten Capital.
* Mideel, featuring Mideel village and maybe the ruins of Banora.
* Wutai
* Rocket Town.
* Icicle Area, featuring places like the Icicle Inn, Bone Village, and perhaps the Forgotten Capital.
* Mideel, featuring Mideel village and maybe the ruins of Banora.
* Wutai
* Rocket Town.
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A rather conservative one, but a prediction nonetheless. It posits that in addition to the six explorable regions in ''Rebirth''[[note]]The Grasslands, Junon, Corel, Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, and Nibel. There's also a seventh location, Northwoods, but entering that area is a PointOfNoReturn from visiting the other six regions.[[/note]], there will be more added throughout ''Final Fantasy VII'''s world. Some potential possibilities include:
*Icicle Area, featuring places like '''Icicle Area''': the two big visitable locations could likely be Bone Villiage and the Icicle Inn, Bone Village, with the Great Glacier and perhaps the Forgotten Capital.
some connection to ''Rebirth'''s Northwoods area being possibilities.
*Mideel, '''Mideel Area''': featuring Mideel village and maybe Villiage, as well as potentially the ruins of Banora.
Banora. Perhaps there can also be an entirely new settlement in the area where survivors relocate to after Ultima Weapon destroys Mideel.
*Wutai
'''Wutai''': this one likely depends on Wutai town's scale. If it's a smaller town like in the original game, then it could be a central settlement to an explorable area. If it's made bigger to account it being the capital of an entire country, then it could be a more linear location like Midgar in ''Remake'' and Junon in ''Rebirth''. Either way, it has been confirmed that it will be visited thanks in part to Yuffie now being an integrated party member.
* '''Rocket Town''': as RocketTown.
Town was relegated from being visitied in ''Rebirth'' with its various events getting spread out,[[note]]Cid and the Tiny Bronco are first introduced in Gongaga, the Materia Keeper is fought in the Nibelheim flashback, and the fight with Palmer is in the Corel area.[[/note]] its visitablility is most likely reserved for part 3. Whether or not it will have side content is another question: while its absense in ''Rebirth'' only makes it have one event in the original game remaining (the Rocket Launch), it could be expanded upon drastically in order to tell Cid's story, and meeting characters like Shera. It could also be where the cave Lucrecia rests in can be, in order to help expand Vincent's story.
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[[WMG:The Weapons in part 3]]
In keeping with the theme of ''7'', the Weapons will number [[RuleOfSeven exactly seven]], but with a catch: Ultima and Omega may be amalgamated with each other, to avoid a blatant redundancy (Ultima = the '''Ultima'''te Weapon; Omega = a letter meaning 'ends, conclusion'). This gives an opening for a new Weapon, exclusive to part 3.
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[[WMG:The Weapons that we know (Ultima,Emerald,Ruby,etc) are the Planet's last resort to save itself]]
They will be treated as the oldest and most powerful of the weapons the planet has created, and have only one purpose:
Once they awaken, they will kill EVERYTHING living on the planet to return it to the lifestream, allowing the planet to recreate life once again, effectively being the emergency reset button for the planet itself.
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[[WMG:Part 3 will deviate more from the plot of the original]]
Since Part 2 has already used some plot points from Disc 3 (i.e. [[spoiler: a cutdown version of Tifa putting her memories back together, mirroring the lifestream sequence, and Cloud remembering Zack early]]), part 3 will deviate from the second disc - and the original - far more than any part has thus far, especially because the alternate timelines with Zack need to be resolved.
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[[WMG:Regards the Knights of the Round Materia in Part 3]]
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[[WMG:Regarding Cloud's eventual TomatoInTheMirror moment]]
Part of it will involve him realizing he doesn't have a number tattoo like Roche and the robed men do. If he's lucky, someone will point out that Zack didn't have one either.
[[WMG:Marlene will be revealed to have Cetra heritage]]
It would explain why she has knowledge of the future.
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[[WMG:There will be more regions in part 3.]]
A rather conservative one, but a prediction nonetheless. It posits that in addition to the six explorable regions in ''Rebirth''[[note]]The Grasslands, Junon, Corel, Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, and Nibel.[[/note]], there will be more added throughout ''Final Fantasy VII'''s world. Some potential possibilities include:
* Icicle Area, featuring places like the Icicle Inn, Bone Village, and perhaps the Forgotten Capital.
* Mideel, featuring Mideel village and maybe the ruins of Banora.
* Wutai
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[[WMG: Hojo will be looking for Lucrecia.]]
He is after her to see if impregnated her again will produce a child as powerful as Sephiroth or would the child be weaker or stronger. Regardless it would give him data for his experiments.
He is after her to see if impregnated her again will produce a child as powerful as Sephiroth or would the child be weaker or stronger. Regardless it would give him data for his experiments.
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The prediction goes that Cloud's camaraderie with the Seventh Infantry will cause them to defect against Shinra at some point and provide aid to the party in various ways. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders know Cloud and the gang's true identities, but this fondness allows them to stay free off the hook. Additonally, the sidequest reveals that they were ordered to stay stationed in the Junon area rather than return to Midgar. These sets of circumstances combined with what happens in Junon in disc 2 (Barret and Tifa getting captured, Sapphire Weapon's attack, et cetera) could allow a window of opportunity for the Seventh Infantry to defect and help Cloud's party through capturing the Highwind with Cid during Yuffie and Cait Sith's rescue operation.
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The prediction goes that Cloud's camaraderie with the Seventh Infantry will cause them to defect against Shinra at some point and provide aid to the party in various ways. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders know Cloud and the gang's true identities, but this fondness allows them to stay free off the hook. Additonally, the sidequest reveals that they were ordered to stay stationed in the Junon area rather than return to Midgar. These sets of circumstances circumstances, combined with what happens in Junon in disc 2 (Barret and Tifa getting captured, Sapphire Weapon's attack, et cetera) cetera), could allow a window of opportunity for the Seventh Infantry to defect Infantry. While Cait Sith and Yuffie spearhead the rescuing of Barret and Tifa from their executions, the troopers could help Cloud's party through capturing Cid in taking over the Highwind with Cid during Yuffie to be used by Cloud and Cait Sith's rescue operation.
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The prediction goes that Cloud's camaraderie with the Seventh Infantry will cause them to defect against Shinra at some point and provide aid to the party in various ways. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders know Cloud and the gang's true identities, but this fondness allows them to stay free off the hook. Additonally, the sidequest reveals that they were ordered to stay stationed in the Junon area rather than return to Midgar. These sets of circumstances combined with what happens in Junon in disc 2 (Barret and Tifa getting captured, Sapphire Weapon's attack, et cetera) could allow a window of opportunity for the Seventh Infantry to defect and help Cloud's party through capturing the Highwind.
Highwind with Cid during Yuffie and Cait Sith's rescue operation.
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The prediction goes that Cloud's camaraderie with the Seventh Infantry will cause them to defect against Shinra at some point and provide aid to the party in various ways.
ways. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders know Cloud and the gang's true identities, but this fondness allows them to stay free off the hook. Additonally, the sidequest reveals that they were ordered to stay stationed in the Junon area rather than return to Midgar. These sets of circumstances combined with what happens in Junon in disc 2 (Barret and Tifa getting captured, Sapphire Weapon's attack, et cetera) could allow a window of opportunity for the Seventh Infantry to defect and help Cloud's party through capturing the Highwind.
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[[WMG:The Midgar Seventh Infantry will defect from Shinra and become the crew of the ''Highwind'']]
Much like how ''Rebirth'' keeps a bunch of side characters from ''Remake'' around (some examples being Roche, Chadley, the Wallmarket triad, and Kyrie Canaan), it's safe to assume that Part 3 will do the same thing. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders now recognize Cloud and the gang's true identities, and that they've grown on them enough to keep them free. This, combined with the initial order to stay in Junon, leads to the prediction that they will eventually defect from Shinra and take over the ''Highwind'' during the Sapphire Weapon's attack on Junon upon seeing Barret and Tifa set up for execution.
Much like how ''Rebirth'' keeps a bunch of side characters from ''Remake'' around (some examples being Roche, Chadley, the Wallmarket triad, and Kyrie Canaan), it's safe to assume that Part 3 will do the same thing. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders now recognize Cloud and the gang's true identities, and that they've grown on them enough to keep them free. This, combined with the initial order to stay in Junon, leads to the prediction that they will eventually defect from Shinra and take over the ''Highwind'' during the Sapphire Weapon's attack on Junon upon seeing Barret and Tifa set up for execution.
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[[WMG:The Midgar Seventh Infantry will defect from Shinra and become the crew of the ''Highwind'']]
Much like how ''Rebirth'' keeps a bunch of side characters from ''Remake'' around (some examples being Roche, Chadley, the Wallmarket triad, and Kyrie Canaan), it's safe to assume that Part 3 will do the same thing. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders now recognize Cloud and the gang's true identities, and that they've grown on them enough to keep them free. This, combined with the initial order to stay in Junon, leads to the prediction that they will eventually defect from Shinra and take over the ''Highwind'' during the Sapphire Weapon's attack on Junon upon seeing Barret and Tifa set up for execution.
Much like how ''Rebirth'' keeps a bunch of side characters from ''Remake'' around (some examples being Roche, Chadley, the Wallmarket triad, and Kyrie Canaan), it's safe to assume that Part 3 will do the same thing. The lategame sidequest "Beneath Still Waters" reveals the unit and their commanders now recognize Cloud and the gang's true identities, and that they've grown on them enough to keep them free. This, combined with the initial order to stay in Junon, leads to the prediction that they will eventually defect from Shinra and take over the ''Highwind'' during the Sapphire Weapon's attack on Junon upon seeing Barret and Tifa set up for execution.
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[[WMG:Safer Sephiroth will summon Whisper Bahamut ZERO as an ally]]
The first game had the Whispers combine into a copy of Bahamut, the second game has Sephiroth Reborn summon a Whisper-formed copy of Bahamut Arisen, escalation demands that Part 3's final boss will include a Whisper clone of whatever the main Bahamut form of the part is called.
The first game had the Whispers combine into a copy of Bahamut, the second game has Sephiroth Reborn summon a Whisper-formed copy of Bahamut Arisen, escalation demands that Part 3's final boss will include a Whisper clone of whatever the main Bahamut form of the part is called.
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* Vincent's backstory, possibly with a playable section of Vincent as a Turk (contrasting the somewhat lighthearted Yuffie DLC by having a much darker tone)
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