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[[WMG:Alternatively, the could join as crew members for the Submarine in part 3.]]
In the OG we see Shinra infantrymen riding in the submarine if you choose not to kill them when given the choice. This might be a little more farfetched since there is not mention of a submarine in Rebirth, while there is mention of the Highwind... but I'm not ready to put this to bed, yet.

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[[WMG:Alternatively, the they could join as crew members for the Submarine in part 3.]]
In the OG we see Shinra infantrymen riding in the submarine if you choose not to kill them when given the choice. This might be a little more farfetched since there is not no mention of a submarine in Rebirth, while there is mention of the Highwind... but I'm not ready to put this to bed, yet.

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*Possibly jossed. Wedge is shown to have died in no uncertain terms, though this still doesn't omit him from having his own Episode that focuses on him. Either his efforts in another world, or through flashbacks.



* Confirmed. Roche allows Hojo to experiment on him to become powerful enough to beat Cloud. He starts to die from the enhancements and angrily refuses Cloud's attempt to help him, saying he want a final battle. After he loses, he expires and becomes another Sephiroth clone.

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* Confirmed. Roche allows Hojo to experiment on him to become powerful enough to beat Cloud. He starts to die from the enhancements and angrily refuses Cloud's attempt to help him, saying he want wants a final battle. After he loses, he expires and becomes another Sephiroth clone.



The first game had the Whispers combine into a copy of Bahamut, the second game has Sephiroth Reborn summon a Whisper-formed copy of Bahamut Arisen, escalation demands that Part 3's final boss will include a Whisper clone of whatever the main Bahamut form of the part is called.

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The first game had the Whispers combine into a copy of Bahamut, the second game has Sephiroth Reborn summon a Whisper-formed copy of Bahamut Arisen, and escalation demands that Part 3's final boss will include a Whisper clone of whatever the main Bahamut form of the part is called.




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* Yet another variation will be that they will serve the role that Gilgamesh served in Rebirth and span a game long "protorelic" mission.


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[[WMG:Alternatively, the could join as crew members for the Submarine in part 3.]]
In the OG we see Shinra infantrymen riding in the submarine if you choose not to kill them when given the choice. This might be a little more farfetched since there is not mention of a submarine in Rebirth, while there is mention of the Highwind... but I'm not ready to put this to bed, yet.

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* During the date scene, Yuffie does mention a SOLDIER with black hair that she met during the events of Crisis Core and admits that she liked him because he was such a nice guy but...







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** Or more likely Part 3.



* Barret is most likely safe because [[spoiler: they gave him a DisneyDeath in Remake.]] Vincent and Yuffie as well since they weren't in the first game and wouldn't have as much of an impact.

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* Barret is most likely safe because [[spoiler: they gave him a DisneyDeath in Remake.]] Vincent and Yuffie as well since they weren't in the first game and wouldn't have as much of an impact. Cid too is likely safe because he's not integral to the Sephiroth plot.



* Also Jossed in the way that Sephiroth was talking about Tifa trying to get into Cloud's head that his memories aren't what they were and that he really did kill Tifa at the Nibelheim incident, trying to separate Cloud from Tifa.

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* Also Jossed in the way that Sephiroth was talking about Tifa trying to get into Cloud's head that his memories aren't what they were and that he really did kill Tifa at the Nibelheim incident, trying to separate Cloud from Tifa.




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*Jossed as of Rebirth, but there's always Part 3.




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*Seemingly jossed. The Biggs we see is transported from the Beagle Timeline to the Terrier Timeline. He mentions how Cloud is a badass, but Terrier!Zack seems doubtful. They both mention how their internal clocks are busted and find it a bit weird.

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**Confirmed, though downplayed, as catching a chocobo is not in of itself a full chapter.



**Confirmed is a dungeon.



**Confirmed in a sense, as Lower Junon is not a full chapter and combines Upper Junon as a chapter.



**Confirmed. See above.



**Confirmed, but not as a cargo ship but as a cruise ship, then Shinra-8.



**Confirmed, as Chapter 6, and part of Chapter 7.



**Confirmed and is a dungeon until you reach North Corel.



**Confirmed but also adds Corel Prison as its own chapter.



**Confirmed see above.



**Confirmed, adds Gongaga Reactor as a dungeon.



**Confirmed, includes Cave of the Gi as a dungeon.



**Confirmed, and adds City of the Gi as a mini-dungeon/dungeon extention.



** Jossed. Rocket town is not visitable in ''Rebirth'', with its various elements scattered throughout the game.[[note]]Cid and the ''Tiny Bronco'' are introduced when going between Gongaga and Cosmo Canyon, the Materia Keeper fight was moved to the Nibelheim flashback, and the Palmer fight was moved to the Corel Desert, immedialy after the Dyne fight.[[/note]]

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** Jossed. Rocket town Town is not visitable in ''Rebirth'', with its various elements scattered throughout the game.[[note]]Cid and the ''Tiny Bronco'' are introduced when going between Gongaga and Cosmo Canyon, the Materia Keeper fight was moved to the Nibelheim flashback, and the Palmer fight was moved to the Corel Desert, immedialy immediately after the Dyne fight.[[/note]]



* Temple of the Ancients 

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**Confirmed, though finding the keystone is downplayed since Cait Sith pretty much tells the party where it is, while OG is a bit more ambiguous if you don't already know.
* Temple of the Ancients Ancients
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**Confirmed and is the last chapter of Rebirth






Putting this here for the lack of a better place. The fact that the Crisis Core remaster gets a subtitle that follows the Remake name scheme seems pretty important.

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Putting this here for the lack of a better place. The fact that the Crisis Core remaster gets a subtitle that follows the Remake name scheme seems pretty important.



** If anything, it would be a nice MythologyGag if Cloud and Zack fight Sephiroth together with Zack wielding the Buster Sword, and Cloud wielding the Fusion Sword in part 3. (If the rumors that the Remake Project leads into Advent Children is true.)



** Confirmed, at least in regards to her showing up. She is a main character in Gongaga, helping keep the villiage (and Zack's parents) safe and secure from any threat.

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** Confirmed, at least in regards to her showing up. She is a main major character in Gongaga, helping keep the villiage village (and Zack's parents) safe and secure from any threat.



** Confirmed Quake, Quakera, and Quaga appear



** Jossed, but maybe for part 3.



** Confirmed.



** Jossed. Poison exists, but isn't an elemental.



** Jossed.



* Jossed. While Weapons do appear (once at the Corel Reactor, and once at the Gongaga Reactor), they are not fought. Additionally, the party doesn't reach the North Crater as ''Rebirth'' ends at the Forgotten Capital.

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* Jossed. While Weapons do appear (once at the Corel Reactor, and once at the Gongaga Reactor), they are not fought.fought (not by the heroes anyway). Additionally, the party doesn't reach the North Crater as ''Rebirth'' ends at the Forgotten Capital.



* Ultimately, it's not really explained.



* Jossed, as there was no mention of either town, plus the fact that both towns' regions (Mideel and the Icicle Inn Area respectively) are only accessable after the timeframe of ''Rebirth''.

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* Jossed, as there was no mention of either town, plus the fact that both towns' regions (Mideel and the Icicle Inn Area respectively) are only accessable accessible after the timeframe of ''Rebirth''.



** [[spoiler: Jossed. Sephiroth kills almost all to all Aeriths in the various timelines (''Rebirth'''s GainaxEnding makes it complicated on what he truly did), but he doesn't lay a finger on anyone other than Cloud and Aerith.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Sephiroth kills almost all to all Aeriths in the various timelines (''Rebirth'''s GainaxEnding makes it complicated on what he truly did), but he doesn't lay a finger on anyone other than Cloud and Aerith.]]


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* Ultimately Jossed as there are no in-game explanations or logic as to how Cloud and the gang end up with less materia between Remake and Rebirth.

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** Jossed. Yuffie never comments on the Buster Sword and Angeal is never mentioned.



* Played with. [[spoiler: There is a possibility Aerith cheated death but is now living in an alternate timeline.

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* Played with. [[spoiler: There is a possibility Aerith cheated death but is now living in an alternate timeline. ]]
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** Confirmed, but played with. The first chapter of the game is the flashback in Nibelheim, [[spoiler:though the first playable part of the game is terrier!Zack in Midgar]] and the ending is a gauntlet ending at a Sephiroth fight reminicant to the ending of ''Remake''. [[spoiler:However, ''Rebirth'''s fight is Sephiroth against Cloud and Aerith, compared to ''Remake'''s being two of Barret, Tifa, and Aerith accompanying Cloud.]]
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Given how things are between them, I don't think Yuffie would listen to Godo.


With Yuffie being an AdaptationalNiceGuy, it'd be out of character for her to steal the Materia without a good reason. With another war on the horizon, Godo will use that to emotionally blackmail her into stealing the Materia.

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With Yuffie being an AdaptationalNiceGuy, it'd be out of character for her to steal the Materia without a good reason. With another war on the horizon, Godo Glenn will use that to emotionally blackmail her into stealing the Materia.
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[[WMG: Yuffie's reason for stealing the group's Materia will be more sympathetic]]
With Yuffie being an AdaptationalNiceGuy, it'd be out of character for her to steal the Materia without a good reason. With another war on the horizon, Godo will use that to emotionally blackmail her into stealing the Materia.
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- Cid: focus chapter is whenever Rocket Town happens, with sidequests potentially involving repairing his relationship with Shera, assuming they're still on slightly fractious terms
- Vincent: focus chapter is potentially when Hojo is killed, which may be a much more involved affair than the original, a return to Shinra Manor since the setting was underutilised or maybe even when the group steals the sub and comes across Lucrecia's cave, which is itself a setting that could be expanded on. Sidequests likely involve getting to grips with his monster forms - possibly Chaos - or puzzling out the world 30 years in the future once the others clock his true age, since the origins of the JENOVA Project are important enough to be worked into the main story.
- Cait Sith - focus chapter could be the return to Midgar or the story beats around Reeve's arrest being expanded, with his true self being upgraded to official party member. Sidequests could involve Reeve trying to help the victims of the platefall or use his intel skills to protect as many people from Shinra/Meteor as possible

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- * Cid: focus chapter is whenever Rocket Town happens, with sidequests potentially involving repairing his relationship with Shera, assuming they're still on slightly fractious terms
- * Vincent: focus chapter is potentially when Hojo is killed, which may be a much more involved affair than the original, a return to Shinra Manor since the setting was underutilised or maybe even when the group steals the sub and comes across Lucrecia's cave, which is itself a setting that could be expanded on. Sidequests likely involve getting to grips with his monster forms - possibly Chaos - or puzzling out the world 30 years in the future once the others clock his true age, since the origins of the JENOVA Project are important enough to be worked into the main story.
- * Cait Sith - focus chapter could be the return to Midgar or the story beats around Reeve's arrest being expanded, with his true self being upgraded to official party member. Sidequests could involve Reeve trying to help the victims of the platefall or use his intel skills to protect as many people from Shinra/Meteor as possible
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[[WMG: Possible sidequests/focus chapters in Part 3]]
Given this game put far more emphasis on the bonds within the team, the sidequests will need to balance giving everyone a time to shine with fleshing out the members who've had no sidequests yet - Vincent, Cid and Cait Sith. They will likely get focus chapters of their own, also. Possibilities could include:
- Cid: focus chapter is whenever Rocket Town happens, with sidequests potentially involving repairing his relationship with Shera, assuming they're still on slightly fractious terms
- Vincent: focus chapter is potentially when Hojo is killed, which may be a much more involved affair than the original, a return to Shinra Manor since the setting was underutilised or maybe even when the group steals the sub and comes across Lucrecia's cave, which is itself a setting that could be expanded on. Sidequests likely involve getting to grips with his monster forms - possibly Chaos - or puzzling out the world 30 years in the future once the others clock his true age, since the origins of the JENOVA Project are important enough to be worked into the main story.
- Cait Sith - focus chapter could be the return to Midgar or the story beats around Reeve's arrest being expanded, with his true self being upgraded to official party member. Sidequests could involve Reeve trying to help the victims of the platefall or use his intel skills to protect as many people from Shinra/Meteor as possible

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Seeing how in Remake he was pro-Shinra and in Rebirth he certainly has waning loyalty (to include an emphatic "Screw You, Shinra!"). The Shinra Middle Manager has arguably one of the best character arcs of the NPCs. There's a chance that he renounces his employment right to Rufus or one of the Directors and has a small but very important part to play in Part 3.

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Seeing how in Remake he was pro-Shinra and in Rebirth he certainly has waning loyalty (to include an emphatic "Screw You, Shinra!"). The Shinra Middle Manager has arguably one of the best character arcs of the NPCs. Non-Player Characters. There's a chance that he renounces his employment right to Rufus or one of the Directors and has a small but very important part to play in Part 3.3.

[[WMG: The names of Jenova are important to know the strength of Sephiroth, or at least his mindset.]]
The first in Remake is Jenova Dreamweaver. While this type of Jenova never appeared in the OG, she would have likely been named Jenova-CONCEPTION. As it would have been the beginning of Sephiroth's rise to power. Then we fight Jenova Emergent, within the Shinra-8, while the OG called this one Jenova-Birth. Which is Sephiroth gathering his power and testing the mental and physical strength of Cloud and the others. Then the one we fight at the end of Rebirth called Jenova Lifeclinger is Sephiroth at his strongest. This is Sephiroth who believes that he is untouchable.

Part three will have (at least) one more Jenova fight against Jenova 'something death related' which corresponds to Jenova-Death, which will signify the waning power of Sephiroth and the final barrier of Sephiroth's nigh-invincible fortress like power.
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[[WMG: The Shinra Middle Manager still has a part to play, and possibly becomes a martyr for the Avalanche gang.]]
Seeing how in Remake he was pro-Shinra and in Rebirth he certainly has waning loyalty (to include an emphatic "Screw You, Shinra!"). The Shinra Middle Manager has arguably one of the best character arcs of the NPCs. There's a chance that he renounces his employment right to Rufus or one of the Directors and has a small but very important part to play in Part 3.
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** [[spoiler:Another frontrunner for Part 3's title could be ''Return'', given that it has two syllables like ''Remake'' and ''Rebirth'', can continue the Japanese wordplay (like re-turning the clock, or returning the timeline) and can be written is the same short katakana as the first two parts. Additionally, the last song on ''Rebirth'''s OST is titled "Aerith's Theme - Return to the Planet". Meanwhile, the title of the ''Remake'' OST's final song is "One Winged Angel - Rebirth".]]

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** [[spoiler:Another frontrunner for Part 3's title could be ''Return'', given that it has two syllables like ''Remake'' and ''Rebirth'', can continue the Japanese wordplay (like re-turning the clock, or returning the timeline) and can be written is in the same short katakana as the first two parts. Additionally, the last song on ''Rebirth'''s OST is titled "Aerith's Theme - Return to the Planet". Meanwhile, the title of the ''Remake'' OST's final song is "One Winged Angel - Rebirth".]]
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Aside from Cid and Vincent joining full time. Cloud's party will have Shelke, Terrier Zack, Shelke, and Cissnei.

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Aside from Cid and Vincent joining full time. Cloud's party will have Shelke, have, Terrier Zack, Shelke, and Cissnei.
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While likely just the series usual RuleOfCool, one exploration for her actually getting the chance to sing is that since he was already consigned to betraying the group on Shinra's order, he wanted ensure they all had one last good memory together, so he pulled some strings for them all to partake In the Loveless play.

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While likely just the series usual RuleOfCool, one exploration explanation for her actually getting the chance to sing is that since he was already consigned to betraying the group on Shinra's order, he wanted ensure they all had one last good memory together, so he pulled some strings for them all to partake In the Loveless play.
play after he saw her write her song.

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