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19th Jan '16 12:10:25 PM nombretomado
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* On {{Steam}}, actually.

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* On {{Steam}}, UsefulNotes/{{Steam}}, actually.
27th May '15 2:29:53 AM Mysterion
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** The attacks are nearly simultaneous - and when one Maenad acquires an eidolan, all of them have access to it. One captures Bahamut first on the Red Moon, then others are immediately in position to use him against Cecil, Asura and Leviathan on the Blue Planet.
** The True Moon launched a meteorite each at the Blue Planet and Red Moon, then entered orbit around the Blue Planet itself for a long-term conflict. If this theory is correct, why did the Creator give such priority to the Planet, rather than the Moon?
28th Apr '15 11:50:45 PM EdwardGil
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* On {{Steam}}, actually.
24th Aug '14 6:05:50 PM MeteoXavier
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* Hypothesis needs to be revised some, as the fact that Asura attacks Golbez and FuSoYa prove they took the Eidolons first, not attacked the Red Moon first.
* Additionally, in the PSP version, the Mysterious Girls have the same hair color as the sleeping Lunarians.
22nd Apr '14 10:54:57 AM IrueruPunch
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Why else would her new outfit look more modest.

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Why else would her new outfit look more modest.modest?

[[WMG: The iOS version will be ported sooner or later.]]
The graphics and gameplay overhauls are just begging for it. Considering Square Enix's porting habit as of late, it's kind of inevitable.
As for the platform, either Nintendo3DS or PlaystationVita works. [[TakeTheThirdOption Or both]].
15th Jan '14 5:57:07 PM MickeyFrogeater
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[[WMG: Rosa changed her outfit due to the stretch marks on her body following her pregnancy.]]
Why else would her new outfit look more modest.
6th Aug '13 8:03:41 PM Andyzero
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Note Kluya's dialogue when Kain faces his EnemyWithout; he's talking about his sons. The Maenad interference on Cecil's Paladinship included a psychic assault on Kluya's essence. This confused Kluya enough to give the Redemption Test to the wrong person (it helps that Kain was possessed by Golbez when Golbez was being possesed by Zemus, so they had the same psychic "flavor."); but this wasn't what it was designed for; so the test blew up.

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Note Kluya's dialogue when Kain faces his EnemyWithout; he's talking about his sons. The Maenad interference on Cecil's Paladinship included a psychic assault on Kluya's essence. This confused Kluya enough to give the Redemption Test to the wrong person (it helps that Kain was possessed by Golbez when Golbez was being possesed possessed by Zemus, so they had the same psychic "flavor."); but this wasn't what it was designed for; so the test blew up.
25th May '13 12:49:19 PM cillianflood
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** Unless it took place after the OVA. The enemies fought from V aren't generic run of the mill bosses. They're beasts that quite possibly could still be around hundreds of years later...and Gilgamesh.
15th Feb '13 12:36:25 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Creator from this game is the same as The Maker from FinalFantasyXIII]]

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[[WMG: The Creator from this game is the same as The Maker from FinalFantasyXIII]]VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII]]
4th Jun '12 6:33:58 PM MeteoXavier
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[[WMG: Zemus is controlling The Creator.]]
A lot of the otherwise spread-out and contrived antagonistic elements of The After Years make sense if one starts to believe that Zemus brainwashed The Creator the same as he did with Kain and Golbez after his defeat in Final Fantasy IV.

Consider that the methods both [[BigBad Big Bads]] use are extremely similar - brainwashing, collecting crystals using a Dark Knight (in this case, Dragoon, which is not technically the same thing, but still enough), removing the good King of Baron, using the Red Wings to attack the planet and so on - both antagonists were also absolutely obsessed with the evolution of the human race on the blue planet and intent on knocking out the Eidolons and Summoners. They were both using a second moon to stir up trouble on Earth and both can easily resurrect dead enemies like The Four Emperors to do their bidding.

At the end of Final Fantasy IV, Zeromus says, "As long as there is evil in the hearts of man, I will never die" or something like that. When you fight him again in The After Years, he says "Evil is evolution at it's purest!" a telling sign if ever there was one. The Maenad attack The Red moon first. One of them leads Golbez and FuSoYa down the Lunar Sub - but why? Why didn't she just take the crystals right there? Why did she want to endanger the other Lunarians? She's removing the seal on Zeromus so he can be awakened and take revenge, and he was.

As the crystal also acts as a direct link to The Creator, it's likely Zeromus's link was established when Cecil shone the crystal on him during the fight that killed him. When Zemus recovered enough, he likely exploited Creator's angst of being the last of his kind, dying out due to a painful evolution. Considering the start of Interlude is just a year after, the time frame may be realistic. It seems a bit too convenient that The Creator just happened to go insane around the same time frame and devise a VERY similar plan to wiping out the Blue Planet and the Lunarians. Zemus already knew the power of the Eidolons, so he wanted to take advantage of them for himself this time around. Then he waited and built for 16 years the True Moon, its dungeon, and the Maenad. The first was the Red Moon and Zeromus' resurrection. Then he teleported the Maenad to the Tower of Babil. Finally, when The Creator is destroyed, he "thanks" the party for his destruction - likely for removing his possession and ending him of his long misery.

What hurts this theory is the obvious lack of any canonical/official link between the two and the unknown fate of the Lunarians at the end of the game. While much of the mythos is kinda reconfigured in The After Years and left to the gamer's imaginations, something like that would've been established somewhere in the game.

Nevertheless, the connections, once you see them, are pretty hard to ignore and certainly makes more sense all the way around.
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