History WMG / FateZero

** They would settle for Caesar for the following reasons: being a Roman noble he'd be more reliable than Gilgamesh (at least in theory); the Roman army was quite adept at dismantling the phalanx (they faced it in many battles, and ''always'' massacred it. Even Hannibal got his phalanx massacred the one time the Romans managed to force him in a head on battle), and Caesar being the great general he was he would be able to compensate for Alexander being smart enough to ''cover the flanks'' (how the Romans massacred the phalanx: they used their superior mobility to reach the flanks and started chopping) and use combined arms, so he could very well win; the smartass got everything he wanted from life ([[MagnificentBastard possibly including becoming a martyr when he was still loved]]), so he would be uninterested into the Grail. Of course summoning Caesar could still bite them back in the ass for five different reasons: Caesar being a very successful womanizer ([[AnythingThatMoves and not limited to women]]) there's the chance he would learn they would betray him in the end by an homunculus he seduced, and, given how Kiritsugu was able to accidentally subvert Irisviel, the much more charismatic Caesar would simply subvert ''all'' the homunculi to his service and have them slain the entire family in their sleep (easy and granting him success, while simply attacking them could end with him killed by combat homunculi); if they summon him too early he could take exception at the unnecessary pain they caused Illya (and Caesar would subvert the homunculi and have the family slain even faster); if he finds out Illya will be sacrificed to become the Grail Vessel, Caesar could take exception; Caesar being smart and not having a Mad Enhanchement keeping him dumb he would realize that Illya has been brainwashed into hating her father and adopted brother; maybe Caesar ''has'' an unfulfilled wish that nobody knew of, and would get rid of the Einzberns so they couldn't stop him as he subverts Ilya into his service.

We know from ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'' that the power of one Counter Guardian, Jeanne d'Arc (of all people), is exactly that: causing a massive fire. What if Kirei's wish would have been a threat to Humanity's survival, to the point it was better to just burn the entire area to the ground?

* Actually, if they wanted to win, they would've summoned either Genghis Khan (who was essentially Iskandar taken UpToEleven) or Dwight D. Eisenhower, the head commander of Operation Overlord [=AKA=] D-Day. Both could've easily matched, if not exceeded, the size of Iskandar's army with their noble phantasms - hell, Eisenhower probably could win against Iskandar even if he was outnumbered, simply because the tech he had would make 1 soldier summoned by his Noble Phantasm equal to multiple soldiers summoned by Iskandar's Noble Phantasm. The only issue with Eisenhower is that if he found out what they were doing to Illya, he'd likely turn on the Einzberns as soon as possible.

* Actually, if they wanted to win, they would've summoned either Genghis Khan (who was essentially Iskandar taken UpToEleven) or Dwight D. Eisenhower, the head commander of Operation Overlord [=AKA=] D-Day. Both could've easily matched, if not exceeded, the size of Iskandar's army with their noble phantasms - hell, Eisenhower probably could win against Iskandar even if he was outnumbered, simply because the tech he had would make 1 soldier summoned by his Noble Phantasm equal to multiple soldiers summoned by Iskandar's Noble Phantasm. The only issue with Eisenhower is that his alignment is very likely to be LawfulGood, meaning that if he found out what they were doing to Illya, he'd likely turn on the Einzberns as soon as possible.

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* We know what Waver looks like as an [[http://images.wikia.com/typemoon/images/b/b9/Melloi2.png adult]] and we also know he never became a particularly epic magus, mostly just a fine tutor/teacher with a bit of a crabby attitude. On the other hand our Servant while similar is perhaps less so [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110922165405/typemoon/images/c/ce/IH.png in his original illustration]] and notably appears about the same age but wears a different outfit. Now the Nasuverse timeline doesn't go far enough, but why the switch-up in a short period of time? Now this IS the Nasuverse where rules are only written to explain how rare and strange the exceptions (that make up the cast) are, so could Waver get himself added by breaking all the rules... sure. There's nothing to say he did though. Its left more likely this is just a resemblance and its an ancient Servant like all the rest, like the other Ionians that look kinda like Gil.