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[[WMG: Maybe Kiel was right when she said [[spoiler: maybe the seed didn't take Naal over completely, as once Naal is safely locked away, she then reaches for her doll of Sharess' knight.]]]]

* [[spoiler: Maybe she'll be able to open doors a bit later...or they'll free her when things get REALLY bad. Or someone tries to deliver some bodies...]]

[[WMG: Could [[spoiler: Blossom from the Goddess Knight Daydream story]]be related to Quaintana?]]
* Daydream isn't usually Canon, but considering we have a page with [[spoiler: Diva'ratrika]] recalling her childhood and friends with a young Ash'waren corresponding to Faen, her Moon's Age pet feral to Melodia and her friend Blossom to Ariel. The implications are that each current character has something to do with the person Diva'ratrika is remembering-some type of ancestral resemblance etc. [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?check=1&order=chapters&overview=1&chibi=1&cover=1&page=1&extra=1&id=1159 See Chapter 22 page 23 ]]
* Alternately, [[spoiler:it's ''Zhor'' who's related to Blossom. He was a dark elf, after all]].

** While its true that Blossom is canonically Haiarhyn's daughter, what the OP was suggesting was that Blossom herself might be the mother or grandmother of Quain'tana, based on the flashback from [[spoiler: Diva/Liriel]]'s transformation scenes. The three figures present, Ariel, Faen and Melodia are seen by [[spoiler: Diva/Liriel]] as younger versions of Ash'waren, Blossom and Nana (the name of the feral Diva adopts in Goddess Knight). If however, the reader is simply going by eye and was only familiar with Daydream, judging by the personalities of the Dark Elf queens shown in the story, one could be forgiven for thinking that [[http://www.drowtales.com/~daydream/mel_free/20080130c08VelnariReport.jpg Naj'sera]](far left, fourth panel) would be the one who's possibly an ancestor of Quain'tana.

[[WMG:The two Scourges who poisoned [[spoiler: Kiel acted on the behalf of Ni'bai and Umpus.]]]]
[[spoiler: They're the only members of Sene'kha’s group who still want to summon the demon god. But as long as Kiel's in charge things are a bit more difficulty, since she's strictly against it. That’s probably a good motive why they want her dead. To cover their tracks they hired the two Scourges from Nyo’ka’s group who didn’t like Kiel, anyway. It was a win-win situation: Either Kiel would die or she would blame Nyo’ka, another high-ranking Vloz in opposition to Sene’kha’s plan, and kill her. ]]

[[EpilepticTrees And it was]] [[spoiler: Farasank]]!! Unfortunately only Mel'arnach inherited the height of both parents.
* That would add a whole 'nother layer to some of Mel's [[spoiler:fake!]]PsychoLesbian behavior...
* [[EpilepticTrees OR]] the father was actually [[spoiler: Ashu'athama Sharen]] in a drunken one night stand. Quain'tana is so ashamed of this she has entirely wiped out the incident from her mind.

* TakeAThirdOption: Maybe it was actually [[spoiler: Rosof]]. Its not been specifically stated when Mel'arnach and Kel'noz were born and whether it was before the Sarghress became a Val clan or after.

* {{Jossed}}; Chrys'tel is now [[spoiler: the overseer and spokesperson for Zala'ess]]. Shinae showed up in the main comic [[spoiler: as a member of [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?id=1770 the Sharen-Nega loyalists' faction]]. She also gave birth to a stillborn, demon-corrupted baby. Gailen Val'Nal'Sarkoth is her mate.]]. Whether Shinae betrays Chrys'tel ''after'' chapter 34 is yet to be seen.

Otherwise how can [[spoiler: there be Nidraa'chal deep cover agents in ''every'' major clan]]? Particularly in those of the Kyorl'solenurn and the Sullisin'rune or even the Jaal'daarya clans?
* Makes sense. Especially since it's implied that [[spoiler:Snadhya uses Orthorbbae as a recruiting ground and would ''know'' that some clans wouldn't accept tainted members]].

* Maybe not so Jossed, depending on whatever the hell happened to [[spoiler:Shinae's baby]].
* Whilst tainted female drow may have trouble giving birth to live young, was the same ever suggested for male drow with the [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune's faulty]] taint? Since they just provide the sperm and do not carry the young, if they mated with an untainted female would the offspring be safe?

... As [[spoiler:Nidraa'chal]]. Think about it. It's said that there are [[spoiler:Nidraa'chal]] in ''every major clan'', and Mel's group was composed of girls from... every major clan. Including a Kyorl'solenurn. And who were they all recruited by? [[spoiler:Snadhya'rune]]. This one is so heavily implied in the DD story that I'll be shocked if this isn't true.

... And he'll be tainted. Given how much emphasis he puts on [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=164 growing stronger]] and insisting that he's [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=4741 not weak]] he'll be tempted by Emperor Pal-- er, Snadhya'rune, and get a seed to make him stronger. [[spoiler:Said seed will later devour him]].

* They know about her making summons out of teachers at Orthobbae and about [[spoiler: her recruiting for Nidraa'chal members at Orthobbae, as well as her faulty seeds]] and this is why they have resorted to extremism against all tainted, to throw her off the trail. If they appear to be indiscriminate when targeting tainted individuals they can detect actual Nidraa'chal agents within their target groups without being spotted.
* They also knew that the Dark Elves would eventually leave the surface for the underground due to the demon attacks, by using their farsight skills and the judicators ([[spoiler: really Light Elves]]) are doing all they can to keep the drow underground permanently. This is also why they disapprove of half breed drowussu/drowolaths because the hybrids would hinder their plans for the [[spoiler: vanir/light elves]] to return to power and subjugate their remaining enemies.

Makes sense otherwise why else would they be living with the Sharens and not with their own clan? Neither of them are tainted. If Yakuise is also a Val, she's likely to be Shimi'lande's daughter as well. Related to the earlier WMG about the Kyorl'solenurn it fits the theory that the Kyorl know a lot more about [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune]] than they should.

[[WMG: Lulianne is now a DeepCoverAgent in the Sarghress clan for [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune]]]]
Now that she [[spoiler: has been possessed by Khaless]] she'll be working for [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune]] against the Sarghress to further her plans. The front cover of Chapter 32 seems to suggest this as well. When Mel'arnach and [[spoiler: Snadhya'rune]] are having their [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive//20110713c31p029.jpg discussion in the carriage]], the latter's dialogue wasn't just an example of her [[AffablyEvil affably evilness]] or her just trying to be philosophical (LOL), it was actually a Chekhov'sGun for admitting that [[spoiler: Khaless possessed Lulianne]] and that being able to manipulate emotions is easy for [[spoiler: a demon]].
* Seemingly confirmed by Chapter 36. [[spoiler: WordOfGod reveals that [[http://www.drowtales.com/wordpress/?p=3760 Lulianne is now completely taken over]] by Khaless.]]
* However the Lulianne personality seems to be influencing [[spoiler: Khaless's actions]]. It remains to be seen if this will [[DoubleReverseQuadrupleAgent reveal that she has her own plans]] or if the [[spoiler: Lulianne/Khaless sides]] will remain in conflict.
** Related to the above WMG, Snadhya'rune ''didn't'' just have [[spoiler: Zhor returned to a new Dark Elf body]] for the fun of it. Perhaps she's hoping that he will provide a distraction for Mel'arnach whilst she is away plotting with her allies in Felde for her powerplay. If she gets them to mate and produce healthy offspring with unique talents then that would just be a bonus....
Plus she could have gotten Wi'am to put [[spoiler: Zhor]]'s essence into a female body rather than a male body and just get her to ''re-twig'' the plumbing to allow them to mate the usual way or do so Jaal'darya style! Instead she kept [[spoiler: Zhor]] male so that Mel'arnach would not likely end up favoring [[spoiler: Zhor]] over Snadhya'rune in the long-term due to Mel'arnach's innate dislike of men. [[JustAsPlanned It was all part of the plan...]]

* '''Naal's Seed'''. [[spoiler:Demon!Naal absorbed the Vel'Cahal doll, just like Sharess absorbed the spirit of the Vel'Cahal in ''Goddess Knight'']].

Possibly confirmed [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=8803 here]], [[spoiler:since somehow children are being affected by the taint while in the womb]].

* Both were using each other as a means to an end, when Sha'sana says that demons rarely go to plan, she refers to Khaless having her own agenda whilst seeming subservient to Snadhya'rune. The demon's plan is to bring more of its kind to the drow world and is using tainting as a way to access vessels for its demon counterparts. When the [[spoiler: faulty seeds start to go haywire]] and Snadhya'rune makes her claim for Empresshood, Khaless will completely absorb her former twin.

[[WMG: There's nothing left of [[spoiler:Naal]]]]
The only evidence that she's still alive is that she [[spoiler:hugs Kiel. I don't know about you, but even after being unceremoniously ripped from this reality, left to slowly claw my way to consciousness over the course of a decade, and being locked in a room for however long it was, if a girl fed me and then started crying and asked me to eat her, I'd give her a hug.]]
* Jossed perhaps by Chapter 32. [[spoiler: Naal]] was possessed by a glutton demon, demons which aren't considered as sentient as higher level demons such as Vel'akar like Umpus and Khaless. This is possibly why something of her still seems to exist and rationalise as if still a drow.

Think about it. When we saw Ash'waren's flashbacks and the Goddess Knight story, the Thalamani refugees were shown to be somewhat shorter and paler than their Sharess'land counterparts. On average the Sullisin'rune (or at least Ash'waren is) were/are shorter than the average drow/dark elf. They also possess empathy, a trait also shared by [[spoiler: the drowussu]]. Earlier on this page a troper suggested the possibility of empathy being linked to the ability of being a {{Seer|s}}- as a possible offshoot of the latter. Who do we know possess {{Seer|s}} abilities? [[spoiler: drowussu/Light Elves]]. The original dokkalfar were light elves who became tanned due to living in warmer climates. As the two types of elf grew more isolated, they became separate races- the light elves/vanir and the dark elves/dokkalfar. Most light elves have/had red or blonde/white hair. In the Goddess Knight story, we see Sharess' ancestor and First Empress of the Dark Elves as a red-haired somewhat paler than usual dark elf woman. In terms of height, the light elves were shorter than the dark elves and their gender variance was the opposite of that of the dark elves. Ash'waren is short for [[spoiler: a dark elf]]. (The average dark elf woman was around eight feet tall.) Seven? foot tall Quain'tana towers over Ash'waren. [[spoiler: Drowussu]] males are taller than their females, and unlike their [[spoiler: drowolath]] cousins', their males can often be a match for drowolath females in terms of height (example, Ti'rade, who is quite tall for a drowussu.)
* Then we have the character of Zannah Sarghress- a drowussu/drowolath hybrid. Her mother was a Kyorl'solenurn Warden and her father was a Sullisin'rune nobleman. However she can apparently pass well enough for a drowussu that people don't notice- she got warden training and the symbol for this put onto her forehead. Yet she has a brownish skintone and straight falling hair, unlike the grayish skintone and curly/wavy falling hair of most drowussu. Zannah seems to lend credence to the idea that despite their cultural differences, Sullisin'rune are more closely related to [[spoiler: drowussu and Light Elves]] than first thought.
* There's also the fact that blond/e hair (as in yellow, not white) is not a color commonly seen amongst drowolath. Its more of a [[spoiler: drowussu]] trait. The only drowolath characters seen possessing this hair color naturally are Ash'mita Val'Sullisin'rune and Jiaan Sharen (note: their eyebrows are also colored blond/e unlike characters like Nishi'kanta Val'Sharen and her descendants who only '''dye''' their hair blond/e as shown by their eyebrows not matching their hair color). We don't even know if Jiaan is actually a Sharen by heritage or from adoption by way of being Yami'ni's mate.

Going into enemy territory to "''investigate yourself'' " the situation though you already know what's going on? A TooDumbToLive situation or actually a cover story for her [[spoiler: secretly helping the Nidraa'chal effort]]?

[[WMG: TheMole in the Sarghress for the Nidraa'chal is [[spoiler:Kel'noz]]]]

[[WMG: What if Snadhya'rune is only a DiscOneFinalBoss? The real antagonist and the ManBehindTheMan is actually [[spoiler:Khaless]]]]
This was proposed in the forum after the most recent chapter (39 as of this writing) given what was revealed there. After all, it seems that it was [[spoiler:Khaless' "accident" that drove much of what happened later with Snadhya'rune is implied to have really made her kick up her efforts with the Nidraa'chal, but Khaless is still a demon even if she's an intelligent one, and is just using Snadhya'rune for her own ends. And Snadhya's so called "safe" taint is just a ploy to turn drow into vel'akar like Khaless without them noticing.]]

[[WMG: TheMole in the Sarghress is [[spoiler:Suube]]]]
I thought of this one when I was thinking about how her motives are very similar to [[spoiler:Balsii]] in that they both think they can run things better than the people currently in charge, and rather than being full members she might just be another UnwittingPawn. Either way, there are plenty of hints she's up to no good.

[[WMG: Vala'drielle is actually [[spoiler:a Nidraa'chal agent]]]]
* Originally suggested on the forums, but the whole "third eye" thing seems pretty fishy, and she's implied to have spent most of her time at Orthorbbae, aka [[spoiler:Snadhya's Nidraa'chal recruiting ground]]. Add to that [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9367 this ominous scene]] and there's a decent chance she's up to something.

[[WMG: Khaless [[spoiler: was once the Vel'Cahal]]]]
* The Daydream story, "Beyond the Veil," is non-canonical, but it may give hints about the dimension where most of Drowtales' demons come from. (After all, it presents a possible explanation for Fame's goat demons.) [[spoiler: In this world called Elysia, Sharess' soul was fused with the Vel'Cahal's, and that of Elysia's goddess A'angha. This unstable fusion fragmented into several pieces. The stronger shards ended up devouring the weaker ones, and by the time of the story only a few sentient shards remain. Sha'sana is closest in memory and personality to Sharess. The Phoenix Queen is most like A'angha. The Minister of Songs, Huren, has a dragon-shard for an ancestor (who is afraid of the Vel'Cahal). And the Phoenix Emissary is most like the Vel'Cahal. The emissary proved to be evil and corrupted; he had killed and eaten the Phoenix Queen after she gave birth to their daughter. He intended to eat the dragon-shard as well when Huren summoned it to help Sha'sana's queendom. Sha'sana the shard, seeing the damage Vel'Cahal wrought, was forced to banish the emissary's soul to Chel. This demon later infected a drow, who was later captured by Kyorls. The vel'akar ended up telling the story to a Kyorl, while pretending to be one of Sha'sana's overseers (who the emissary actually killed). This demon eventually escaped the Kyorls, and it began its campaign of absorbing souls.]]

[[WMG: Quain'tana ''was'' planning to let Mel [[spoiler:raise her newest child]]]]

[[WMG: Lulianne/[[spoiler:Khaless]] will be a SpannerInTheWorks to Snadhya'rune]]
* See the WMG further up the page that [[spoiler:Khaless]] will betray Snadhya'rune, and then add in Lulianne's [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9653 apparent refusal or inability]] to [[spoiler:reveal she's really Khaless]], combined with Snadhya'rune's reaction, and this ''might'' be the first time something hasn't gone according to Snadhya's plans. Add to that the fact that some fans are still holding out hope that [[spoiler: Lulianne had enough willpower to not be completely taken over]] and there's a lot of interesting potential.

* As mentioned on the FridgeHorror page, the fact that Quain apparently never attempted to have another heir through Laelle after her "accident" has some pretty horrifying implications, mainly the possibility that it ''wasn't'' an accident and was instead planned after Quain was made barren as an attempt to kill off the bloodline by doing something to Laelle that made her incapable of having any more children. And add to that how [[spoiler:Snadhya'rune, the lover of Mel'arnach, the only person who would be capable of continuing the line after Quain and Laelle were removed from the picture]] is a known user of taints that cause sterility and you have a very disturbing possibility.

* ...was NOT a good idea, even though it is rather neat LaserGuidedKarma. When Ariel [[spoiler: steals Kalki's left arm]], Ariel's hair colour shifts to match her sister's...and, if that fifth panel with the enraged expression is Ariel rather than Kalki, ''Ariel's eyes have turned completely red''. It seems likely that that panel is indeed Ariel, since although Kalki is angry, the expression is furiously determined -- and Kalki's not up to that. She may be angry, but she's also [[spoiler: crazy with pain]]. The final large panel of Ariel's[[spoiler: / Kalki's]] arm is also rather ominous. Stealing [[spoiler: a limb]] from someone so tainted may have unpredictable effects, to say the least.

** Confirmed by Chapter 46's epilogue. Snadhya flat out tells her that she [[spoiler: was just a tool]] before [[spoiler: cold-bloodily killing her]].

[[WMG: The Kyorl'solenurn [[{{Seers}} Seers]] have long had visions relating to Snadhya'runes plans and are just sitting on the information until the time is right for reveal.]]

Think about it. When we saw Ash'waren's flashbacks and the Goddess Knight story, the Thalamani refugees were shown to be somewhat shorter and paler than their Sharess'land counterparts. On average the Sullisin'rune (or at least Ash'waren is) were/are shorter than the average drow/dark elf. They also possess empathy, a trait also shared by [[spoiler: the drowussu]]. Earlier on this page a troper suggested the possibility of empathy being linked to the ability of being a {{Seer}}- as a possible offshoot of the latter. Who do we know possess {{Seer}} abilities? [[spoiler: drowussu/Light Elves]]. The original dokkalfar were light elves who became tanned due to living in warmer climates. As the two types of elf grew more isolated, they became separate races- the light elves/vanir and the dark elves/dokkalfar. Most light elves have/had red or blonde/white hair. In the Goddess Knight story, we see Sharess' ancestor and First Empress of the Dark Elves as a red-haired somewhat paler than usual dark elf woman. In terms of height, the light elves were shorter than the dark elves and their gender variance was the opposite of that of the dark elves. Ash'waren is short for [[spoiler: a dark elf]]. (The average dark elf woman was around eight feet tall.) Seven? foot tall Quain'tana towers over Ash'waren. [[spoiler: Drowussu]] males are taller than their females, and unlike their [[spoiler: drowolath]] cousins', their males can often be a match for drowolath females in terms of height (example, Ti'rade, who is quite tall for a drowussu.)