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[[WMG: The [TheSlenderManMythos Slender Man] is also from the Red World]]
Just an idea I got since the Slender Man Mythos also makes heavy use of tree imagery.

[[WMG: The Red World was not pleased with the HatePlauge.]]

Considering that Greenvale is shaped to look like Willie on the map and [[spoiler:Willie is also a being of the Red World]], Willie might be more important to Greenvale than anyone thought.

[[WMG: Polly has a photograph of [[spoiler:Kaysen fifty years ago and she nevers questions why he looks the same]]]]
* She's also [[spoiler: an alien]] or [[spoiler: also an immortal human]] or perhaps... [[spoiler: she grows her own saplings]]... or she's forgetful...

* [[spoiler:Forrest Kaysen can change shape and assumes a human form to avoid suspicion, just like IT can change shape to whatever it's prey fears the most, and assumes the identity of Bob Gray when interacting directly with humans.]]

* [[spoiler:Forrest Kaysen assumes can change shape and assumes a human form to avoid suspicion, just like IT can change shape to whatever it's prey fears the most, and assumes the identity of Bob Gray when interacting directly with humans.]]

[[WMG:Forrest Kaysen is [[spoiler:related to, or might even be the same species as Pennywise/{{IT}}]]]]

* [[spoiler:They were real; that's why nobody went outside. They were created by the runoff of the purple fumes, which made people really angry and violent. Combined with the immortality aspect of the red seeds...yeah, it's a good mix of Plebotinums to make for angry zombies. Besides, if the Raincoat Killer was real, why not the zombies? They both had origins in the same event.
* The Otherworld scenes were a reaction to York's presence in areas tainted by the seeds. Zombies sense the good guy, spring up and warp the world around him in the localized area to ensnare him and destroy him. They failed badly, though.
* She was a goddess, and as such, was granted the same power to see the zombies as York/Zach was.
* The military bit was probably not real (likely the tree hugger side of the whole tree hugger vs. logger fight we heard about from Keith's side quests, dressed up as the military), but everything else seems to gel.
* See #4 for the tree hugger part and the ForTheEvulz entry above.
* Yup, totally happened, just like all them zombie scenes. Zach was in control, and everything was clear for once, so the final fight could easily have been real.
* In the epilogue, talk to anyone. They have no clue who York is, and they address you as Zach. The best example is talking to Lilly, who not only greets you as Zach, but when Zach mentions that York is with Emily, Lilly not only doesn't know who York is, but half-heartedly accepts Zach's answer that he's Emily's boyfriend (because she thinks ~you~ are her boyfriend). The boys also mention seeing 'another Zach', not 'another York', with Emily. Why though? Since we were playing York the entire time, we followed the game from his perspective, even his introducing himself as York. However, the reality is that all the dialogue had a name swap between York and Zach, and when Francis Morgan rolled on up into town, he was all "FBI Special Agent Francis Zach Morgan. Please just call me Zach. That's what everyone calls me."
* 8) All the kids we see in this game were angels (except for Mini!Zach). Best supporting info on that regarding York? When Mini!York talks to the Angel Issach and Isaiah in the Red Room at the very beginning of Chapter 24 (where all the goddesses are, plus Zach's parents), they tell York he'll be going going back to where he came from soon. He shortly ends up in the white room in the forest with the goddesses. And not to mention he's in the secret area in the white room with that Swery card, and he can be found there with Emily if you visit a second time.
* They were in the Red Room to help York out and tell him when shit was about to go down. Angel-bros for life, yo.
* If the White Room is where York is from, and where the Goddesses went after Kaysen croaked, then it must be some sort of divine limbo for benevolent and/or atoning spirits. Then that means the Red Room is obviously a hellish limbo for malevolent and/or tainted spirits, or hell itself. Makes sense if Kaysen was from there now, yes? As to why Zach was there, he was probably sent to the Red Room by Kaysen to ensure that the Morgan incident had no proper witnesses. York messed that up by saving Zach's soul and allowing it to chill out and heal up in the White Room he was from while he assumed control of Zach's broken body on the mortal plane and properly allowed it to heal, Red Room taint-free. York really is a nice guy, after all.

[[spoiler:Either simple HeroicWillpower, or some special supernatural defense mechanism.]]

[[spoiler:Displaced from his body by Bob, he merged with Zack in order to hunt down similar eldritch abominations. What? It certainly would explain a lot...
Some special property in Zack.]]

* It's suggested that Harry is lying about something in his story, and when we play as the RcK he's nowhere to be seen. Sure the Raincoat Killer exists in the Red World, suggesting he's dead, but then Harry appears in the White World too. Maybe the guy is capable of existing in various worlds in various forms, perhaps originally because he was trapped like Zack was.
** So why is he pretending to be his dad? Perhaps because he's immortal, due to the red seeds. He learned about them from Kaysen, yet eventually turned on him in an attempt to atone. Kaysen expresses exasperation about 'that old man', obviously referring to Harry, and suggests that 'he should have stayed trapped too'. All things considered Harry doesn't actually look that old either, simply crippled and unhealthy.

[[spoiler:An Angel, or similar good spirit.
He takes the girls off to the forest at the end, he is totally unfazed by the supernatural (he seems more unsettled by normal people than by monsters), he’s firmly LawfulGood and Zack first met him in the White Room.
Dale Cooper.
Displaced from his body by Bob, he merged with Zack in order to hunt down similar eldritch abominations. What? It certainly would explain a lot...
Some special property in Zack.
Either simple HeroicWillpower, or some special supernatural defense mechanism.]]

[[WMG: The [[spoiler:Woodmans are particular suspectable to the red seeds.]]]]
[[spoiler:Harry's dad]] didn't just go insane like the rest, he turned into a virtually invunerable killing machine [[spoiler:yet kept enough sanity to attempt to track down the man responsible. Harry himself wears a gas mask at all times,]] likely so he's not effected by the trace amounts in the soil. And [[spoiler:George]]... [[AxeCrazy well]].

[[WMG: The [[spoiler:Woodmans]] are particular suspectable to the red seeds.]]

[[WMG: The [[spoiler:Woodman's]] are particular suspectable to the red seeds]].]]

[[WMG: The [[spoiler:Woodman's]] are particular suspectable to the red seeds.]]

He feeds on suffering, exists in in Black Lodge/Red World. The difference being, [[spoiler: Kaysen]] made the mistake of taking on someone who [[spoiler: could exist in both worlds, by having a personality exist in each. He couldn't possess York/Zack because he's already occupied.]]

[[WMG: The BigBad is of the same species as [[TwinPeaks BOB]]

Jim says that Legendary Tabatha has lived far longer than the normal 7 year life-span of a fish of her species; it is known from the graveyard deer that eating red seeds renders animals immortal. Jim also calls Legendary Tabatha a warning for mankind from nature. If she ate the seeds, then her appearance ''is'' a warning: a warning of the presence of the red seeds and their corruptive power in Greenvale. If this WMG is correct, then it transforms "Legendary Tabatha" from what it currently is (an irrelevant sidequest to catch a big fish to earn a better fishing rod) into something plot-relevant (a shining example of devilishly brilliant subtle foreshadowing for people who complete the "Legendary Tabatha" sidequest before being directly informed of the red seeds' effect on the deer in the main storyline).