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[[WMG: The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind was [[spoiler: a form of subliminal brainwashing]].]]

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[[WMG: The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind was [[spoiler: a form of subliminal brainwashing]].]]brainwashing.]]]]
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[[WMG: The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind was [[spoiler: a form of subliminal brainwashing]].
[[spoiler: We haven't been told anything concrete about the Despairing Incident yet, but we have seen that its effects have caused the collapse of society. However, the mastermind has called SHSL Despair a concept or idea, which has infected the entire world.

With this in mind, it's possible that the mastermind achieved this effect by broadcasting a subliminal BrownNote that killed the "hope" of everyone who witnessed it and turned them into sociopaths. This would also explain how the mastermind plans to destroy the remaining hope in the world by broadcasting the despair game; she's not just showing the last hope of the world killing each other, she's also broadcasting the same subliminal despair brainwashing that caused the Despairing Incident.]]

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[[WMG: The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind was [[spoiler: a form of subliminal brainwashing]].
brainwashing]].]]
[[spoiler: We haven't been told anything concrete about the Despairing Incident yet, but we have seen that its effects have caused the collapse of society. However, the mastermind has called SHSL Despair a concept or idea, which has infected the entire world. \n\n]]

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With this in mind, it's possible that the mastermind achieved this effect by broadcasting a subliminal BrownNote that killed the "hope" of everyone who witnessed it and turned them into sociopaths. This would also explain how the mastermind plans to destroy the remaining hope in the world by broadcasting the despair game; she's not just showing the last hope of the world killing each other, she's also broadcasting the same subliminal despair brainwashing that caused the Despairing Incident.]]
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[[spoiler: There's a blond-haired kid in the ending. She's more delicate than Aoi, and is extremely possessive of Togami.]]

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[[spoiler: There's a blond-haired kid in the ending. She's more delicate than Aoi, and is extremely possessive of Togami.]]]]

[[WMG: The Worst, Most Despair-Inducing Incident in the History of Mankind was [[spoiler: a form of subliminal brainwashing]].
[[spoiler: We haven't been told anything concrete about the Despairing Incident yet, but we have seen that its effects have caused the collapse of society. However, the mastermind has called SHSL Despair a concept or idea, which has infected the entire world.

With this in mind, it's possible that the mastermind achieved this effect by broadcasting a subliminal BrownNote that killed the "hope" of everyone who witnessed it and turned them into sociopaths. This would also explain how the mastermind plans to destroy the remaining hope in the world by broadcasting the despair game; she's not just showing the last hope of the world killing each other, she's also broadcasting the same subliminal despair brainwashing that caused the Despairing Incident.]]
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* The first part is confirmed by chapter 6, but the second part is still unknown.
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* Jossed.
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* [[spoiler: Seemingly Jossed in Chapter 5, when Mukuro Ikusaba is confirmed to be the victim by Monobear. However, given the way the trial ended, there's a good chance Monobear could be lying...]]

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* [[spoiler: Seemingly Jossed in Chapter 5, when Mukuro Ikusaba is confirmed to be the victim by Monobear. However, given Chapter 6 reveals that he wasn't lying about the way identity of the trial ended, there's corpse - the twist was that it had been a good chance Monobear could be lying...victim ''twice''.]]
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* [[spoiler:: As of Chapter 6, this is looking to be extremely likely.]]

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* [[spoiler:: [[spoiler: As of Chapter 6, this is looking to be extremely likely.]]
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* [[spoiler:: As of Chapter 6, this is looking to be extremely likely.]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed thanks to chapter 5. The identity of the victim is initially unknown, but Monobear confirms during the trial that it is in fact Mukuro Ikusaba who has died. Since Kirigiri does show up alive, albeit late to the trial, Kirigiri is clearly not Ikusaba.]]

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* [[spoiler: Seemingly Jossed thanks to chapter 5. The identity of the victim is initially unknown, but Monobear confirms during the trial that it is in fact Chapter 5, when Mukuro Ikusaba who has died. Since Kirigiri does show up alive, albeit late is confirmed to be the trial, Kirigiri is clearly not Ikusaba.victim by Monobear. However, given the way the trial ended, there's a good chance Monobear could be lying...]]
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** Another addendum: [[spoiler: And then there's what happens to him at the end of chapter 5, if you make the "correct choice" and choose ''not'' to reveal Kirigiri's lie in court. This causes Monobear to unfairly cut the trial short, railroading the other students into voting Naegi as the culprit. This causes Naegi to almost get executed...but since Alter Ego saves Naegi at the last minute by dropping him down a trap door into the garbage room, and since Monobear is now convinced Naegi will never make it out, Naegi essentially has free reign to explore the school however he wants, potentially solving the whole mystery!]]
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* [[spoiler: Jossed thanks to chapter 5. The identity of the victim is initially unknown, but Monobear confirms during the trial that it is in fact Mukuro Ikusaba who has died. Since Kirigiri does show up alive, albeit late to the trial, Kirigiri is clearly not Ikusaba.]]
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[[spoiler:Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.]]

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[[spoiler:Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.]]

[[WMG: Fukawa [[spoiler: died from childbirth in the bad ending.]]]]
[[spoiler: There's a blond-haired kid in the ending. She's more delicate than Aoi, and is extremely possessive of Togami.
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[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]

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[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed [[spoiler:framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]]]]]
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[[spoiler:[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]
Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.]]

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[[spoiler:[[WMG:Kirigiri [[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]
Monobear [[spoiler:Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.]]
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[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]
Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.

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[[WMG:Kirigiri [[spoiler:[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]
Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.]]
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[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]

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[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]]]
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The evidence is building up to this. Especially with the [[spoiler: massacre scene]] on the fifth floor.

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The evidence is building up to this. Especially with the [[spoiler: massacre scene]] on the fifth floor.floor.

[[WMG:Kirigiri was framed by Monobear/Mastermind/Mukuro Ikusaba.]
Monobear set up the crime scene in the 5th chapter to take out Kirigiri once and for all, who's been snooping around. Mukuro Ikusaba is actually either Kirigiri's true identity or the mastermind's identity. The corpse is actually one of Monobear's earlier victims, Junko, placed in there to fool everyone. He set up the arrows in the locker to fool everyone into thinking the wounds caused by spears were arrows, plus the bomb on the corpse to prevent them from seeing its true identity.
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** Addendum: And then there's what happens to him at the end of chapter 3. [[spoiler:Kyouko tells him of a secret room with files about the academy. When he investigates this room, someone bashes him on the head, knocking him out, and steals the files...but as an indirect result, Naegi ends up walking in on Sakura and Monokuma having a fight and that's how he discovers Sakura is Monokuma's mole.]]

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** Addendum: And then there's what happens to him at the end of chapter 3. [[spoiler:Kyouko tells him of a secret room with files about the academy. When he investigates this room, someone bashes him on the head, knocking him out, and steals the files...but as an indirect result, Naegi ends up walking in on Sakura and Monokuma having a fight and that's how he discovers Sakura is Monokuma's mole.]]]]

[[WMG: Kirigiri ''is'' [[spoiler: Mukuro Ikusaba]]]].

It's either a MemoryGambit, or the mastermind erased her memories for his/her/it's/their own purposes.

[[WMG: EveryoneWentToSchoolTogether and is DeadAllAlong]]

The evidence is building up to this. Especially with the [[spoiler: massacre scene]] on the fifth floor.
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* And {{Jossed}} thanks to chapter 4. D'oh!
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** Probably not. Super High-School Level Luck, remember?
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This possibility was brought up in the Something Awful thread by another poster, but it deserves repeating here. Makoto Naegi ends up getting the only dorm room whose bathroom door sometimes gets stuck...but ''because'' the door gets stuck, Makoto is later able to [[spoiler: prove his innocence in a murder that was committed by someone who didn't know the true nature of the door.]]

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This possibility was brought up in the Something Awful thread by another poster, but it deserves repeating here. Makoto Naegi ends up getting the only dorm room whose bathroom door sometimes gets stuck...but ''because'' the door gets stuck, Makoto is later able to [[spoiler: prove his innocence in a murder that was committed by someone who didn't know the true nature of the door.]]
**Addendum: And then there's what happens to him at the end of chapter 3. [[spoiler:Kyouko tells him of a secret room with files about the academy. When he investigates this room, someone bashes him on the head, knocking him out, and steals the files...but as an indirect result, Naegi ends up walking in on Sakura and Monokuma having a fight and that's how he discovers Sakura is Monokuma's mole.
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The reason "the rival" is not called "the murderer"? Because UnreliableNarrator may well rear it's ugly head, causing Naegi to be the murderer all along.

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The reason "the rival" is not called "the murderer"? Because UnreliableNarrator may well rear it's ugly head, causing Naegi to be the murderer all along.along.

[[WMG: Makoto Naegi really ''is'' super lucky, and not unlucky like he thinks he is]]
This possibility was brought up in the Something Awful thread by another poster, but it deserves repeating here. Makoto Naegi ends up getting the only dorm room whose bathroom door sometimes gets stuck...but ''because'' the door gets stuck, Makoto is later able to [[spoiler: prove his innocence in a murder that was committed by someone who didn't know the true nature of the door.]]
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* "Average in every respect". So Monobear is Naegi?
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Average in every respect, the boy [[SamusIsAGirl (or maybe girl?)]] who would become Monokuma was jealous of every classmate who excelled in a certain field he/she could never thrive in. Torn apart by desire, proto-Monokuma eventually snapped and tried to murder a Super High School Level student, but ended up being done in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath painfully]] by his/her own mediocrity. Now, he/she makes Super High School Level students kill each other with utter delight, given supernatural powers from an unknown source.

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Average in every respect, the boy [[SamusIsAGirl (or maybe girl?)]] who would become Monokuma was jealous of every classmate who excelled in a certain field he/she could never thrive in. Torn apart by desire, proto-Monokuma eventually snapped and tried to murder a Super High School Level student, but ended up being done in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath painfully]] by his/her own mediocrity. Now, he/she makes Super High School Level students kill each other with utter delight, given supernatural powers from an unknown source.source.

[[WMG: Final Chapter survivor predictions]]
Assuming that there are two deaths per chapter, it means that there will be three people in the last chapter (Chapter 4 begins with seven people, removing one victim and one murderer drops to five. Chapter 5 would then remove one victim and one murderer, bringing the number down to three.]] Naegi has to be one of them due to being the main character. The other two would be "the victim" and "the rival", Naegi's opponent in the trial.

The rival would be either Kirigiri or Togami, with the victim being the other one, or a SacrificialLamb that has survived throughout the game.

Now when Naegi and the rival discover the final victim's body, they stare at each other. A trial isn't called because there aren't three students who can witness the body. And then before anything happens Monokuma comes in. He doesn't like the idea of the graduating student being determined by who can kill the other first, so to create maximum despair he introduces his ace-in-the-hole: The sixteenth student. This count as the third student needed to identify the body, and the case begins.

In the final trial, Naegi and the rival plead their case before the sixteenth, who acts as the judge and jury. Monobear announces that if the sixteenth pics the murderer, both the s/he and the innocent student are free to graduate (since it would just create a two-student scenario all over again). If the sixteenth pics wrongly, they both die instead and the murderer is free to go.

The reason "the rival" is not called "the murderer"? Because UnreliableNarrator may well rear it's ugly head, causing Naegi to be the murderer all along.
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[[WMG: Monokuma is the spirit of a high school student who was dangerously [[{{Envy}} envious]].]]

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[[WMG: Monokuma is The Monokumas are possessed by the spirit of a high school student who was dangerously [[{{Envy}} envious]].]]
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"[[ConsummateLiar Queen of Liars]]", after all. The whole "[[spoiler:castle full of vampire-cosplaying manservants]]" thing? Just another lie. The fact of the matter was, she just [[spoiler:didn't want to die quietly in a GildedCage -- she wanted to be remembered]]. Pure and simple. And what better way to ensure that than to make up such an utterly ''outrageous'' lie? Especially since [[spoiler:the others had been {{Sympathetic Murderer}}s, making her stand out even more]].

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"[[ConsummateLiar Queen of Liars]]", after all. The whole "[[spoiler:castle full of vampire-cosplaying manservants]]" thing? Just another lie. The fact of the matter was, she just [[spoiler:didn't want to die quietly in a GildedCage -- she wanted to be remembered]]. Pure and simple. And what better way to ensure that than to make up such an utterly ''outrageous'' lie? Especially since [[spoiler:the others had been {{Sympathetic Murderer}}s, making her stand out even more]].more]].

[[WMG: Monokuma is the spirit of a high school student who was dangerously [[{{Envy}} envious]].]]
Average in every respect, the boy [[SamusIsAGirl (or maybe girl?)]] who would become Monokuma was jealous of every classmate who excelled in a certain field he/she could never thrive in. Torn apart by desire, proto-Monokuma eventually snapped and tried to murder a Super High School Level student, but ended up being done in [[CruelAndUnusualDeath painfully]] by his/her own mediocrity. Now, he/she makes Super High School Level students kill each other with utter delight, given supernatural powers from an unknown source.
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One of her mothers is just the woman married to her father. The other mother is her biological mother (and sister).

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One of her mothers is just the woman married to her father. The other mother is her biological mother (and sister).sister).

[[WMG: Celes lied about [[spoiler:her motive.]]]]
"[[ConsummateLiar Queen of Liars]]", after all. The whole "[[spoiler:castle full of vampire-cosplaying manservants]]" thing? Just another lie. The fact of the matter was, she just [[spoiler:didn't want to die quietly in a GildedCage -- she wanted to be remembered]]. Pure and simple. And what better way to ensure that than to make up such an utterly ''outrageous'' lie? Especially since [[spoiler:the others had been {{Sympathetic Murderer}}s, making her stand out even more]].
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That is, the resolution to kill another human being. The photos that Monobear snatches up after every other execution aren't just red herrings - they're actual pictures of the school building, of what's going on outside. The dead students are really just sent back to the "real world." The punishment for being too cowardly is to be stuck in your despair as things grow tenser.

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That is, the resolution to kill another human being. The photos that Monobear snatches up after every other execution aren't just red herrings - they're actual pictures of the school building, of what's going on outside. The dead students are really just sent back to the "real world." The punishment for being too cowardly is to be stuck in your despair as things grow tenser.tenser.

[[WMG: Fukawa grew up in a {{Chinatown}} situation.]]
One of her mothers is just the woman married to her father. The other mother is her biological mother (and sister).
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So why lie and claim he did it ForTheEvulz...? Better than admitting he'd gotten tunnel vision and not considered any other suspects than the one who'd literally fallen into his lap that same night. He'd rather come off as a ManipulativeBastard than admit he was ''wrong''.

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So why lie and claim he did it ForTheEvulz...? Better than admitting he'd gotten tunnel vision and not considered any other suspects than the one who'd literally fallen into his lap that same night. He'd rather come off as a ManipulativeBastard than admit he was ''wrong''.''wrong''.
[[WMG:The goal of Despair Academy is to test one's resolution.]]
That is, the resolution to kill another human being. The photos that Monobear snatches up after every other execution aren't just red herrings - they're actual pictures of the school building, of what's going on outside. The dead students are really just sent back to the "real world." The punishment for being too cowardly is to be stuck in your despair as things grow tenser.
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[[WMG:Byakuya thought he was FramingTheGuiltyParty.]]
Contrary to his later claims, he ''didn't'' actually see the real murderer leave. He suspected ''somebody'' would snap thanks to the short time limit on Monokuma's "motives", however, and was discreetly looking around. When he discovered the body, he assumed that [[spoiler:Genocider Syo]] was responsible, but was smart enough not to leave their obvious {{Calling Card}}s behind. Hence, he added those details in.

Then, to ensure they were correctly identified, he tapped the most obvious patsy, Naegi, whom had already proven himself easy to manipulate. He spoonfed clues to him so that he could safely pass that information on to the others without placing too much suspicion onto himself. That way, there'd be no chance of the 'stupid commoners' bungling the trial and letting a SerialKiller graduate. He didn't expect Naegi to PullTheThread and realize he was responsible... or that he'd actually been fooled by [[spoiler:'''Mondo''']], of all people...!

So why lie and claim he did it ForTheEvulz...? Better than admitting he'd gotten tunnel vision and not considered any other suspects than the one who'd literally fallen into his lap that same night. He'd rather come off as a ManipulativeBastard than admit he was ''wrong''.

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