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Let's face it, Chomatic Dragons are very selfish and territory, and it's clear the Red Dragon, Thordek is their boss due to clear dominance, and almost seem to subjugate the other three dragons. It could be reasonable that the smaller (yet still ancient) dragons could be persuaded to try to take dominion of the Conclave for themselves.

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Let's face it, Chomatic Dragons are very selfish and territory, and it's clear the Red Dragon, Thordek is their boss due to clear dominance, and almost seem to subjugate the other three dragons. It could be reasonable that the smaller (yet still ancient) dragons could be persuaded to try to take dominion of the Conclave for themselves.themselves.

!!The one that Pike loves is... Grog.
AshleyJohnson has said that Pike left the Broken Howl for the one she loves, that it is someone from her backstory, and it isn't Scanlan. While her playlist seemed to indicate that the pair were LikeBrotherAndSister, she does go out of her way to try to impress the Goliath, such as when she cut the throat of the duergar with her mace, or (after he'd shown appreciation for Lady Kima's badassery) when she ran back to fetch torture implements for him. She risked her relationship with Sarenrae to try to get his approval...

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* seemingly {{Jossed}} in episode 41 [[spoiler: where it is revealed that he faced down and was nearly mortally wounded by an Ancient Red Dragon to save Sovereign Uriel's family, as well as Seeker Asum and Tofor Bratoris]]
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* Seemingly {{Jossed}}. Gilmore himself, when asked by Scanlan if he was a dragon simply said, "If you could make me one... that would be sexy." However, this could simply just be a ploy to throw off anyone from their suspicions.
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** {{Jossed}}. Percy may not have known ''why or how'' the Briarwords tricked his family into the position to be massacred, but he was traumatised, not delusional.



!!Gilmore is a dragon

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!!Gilmore is a dragondragon.
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* {{Jossed}} yet further in a different way: Percy/Taliesin was guessing. [[spoiler:Cassandra's name appears on the last barrel when she betrays Vox Machina, though it's unclear whether she'd always been a target but only revealed at that moment, or the barrel was "to whom it may concern" until her betrayal marked it.]]
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Yes, a literal dragon - specifically a silver dragon, since they're known to have shapeshifting abilities, and enjoy the company of humanoids. Matt has already hinted that there's more to him than meets the eye, and now with the [[spoiler: arrival of the Chroma Conclave]], Critters understandably have dragons on the brain.

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Yes, a literal dragon - specifically a silver dragon, since they're known to have shapeshifting abilities, and enjoy the company of humanoids. Matt has already hinted that there's more to him than meets the eye, and now with the [[spoiler: arrival of the Chroma Conclave]], Critters understandably have dragons on the brain.brain.

!!The Chroma Conclave with collapse upon itself, with indirect help from our heroes.
Let's face it, Chomatic Dragons are very selfish and territory, and it's clear the Red Dragon, Thordek is their boss due to clear dominance, and almost seem to subjugate the other three dragons. It could be reasonable that the smaller (yet still ancient) dragons could be persuaded to try to take dominion of the Conclave for themselves.
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Once Tiberius has gained the full acceptance of his father, and the backing of the Draconian Council, Tiberius will rejoin Vox Machina, if only temporarily. He will find that his quest to find his missing artifacts less important than fitting in with both of his families (Stormwinds and Vox Machina).

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Once Tiberius has gained the full acceptance of his father, and the backing of the Draconian Council, Tiberius will rejoin Vox Machina, if only temporarily. He will find that his quest to find his missing artifacts less important than fitting in with both of his families (Stormwinds and Vox Machina).Machina).

!!Gilmore is a dragon
Yes, a literal dragon - specifically a silver dragon, since they're known to have shapeshifting abilities, and enjoy the company of humanoids. Matt has already hinted that there's more to him than meets the eye, and now with the [[spoiler: arrival of the Chroma Conclave]], Critters understandably have dragons on the brain.
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He's probably even more ideally situated for a BigDamnHeroes moment than the Slayer's Take members. If Vox Machina gets into a particularly hairy situation in Emon, (which they are, as of Episode 24), he's in a perfect position to rescue them out of the blue.

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He's probably even more ideally situated for a BigDamnHeroes moment than the Slayer's Take members. If Vox Machina gets into a particularly hairy situation in Emon, (which they are, as of Episode 24), he's in a perfect position to rescue them out of the blue.blue.

!!Tiberius Stormwind will return to Vox Machina after he's been accepted by his family as a true Stormwind.
Once Tiberius has gained the full acceptance of his father, and the backing of the Draconian Council, Tiberius will rejoin Vox Machina, if only temporarily. He will find that his quest to find his missing artifacts less important than fitting in with both of his families (Stormwinds and Vox Machina).
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** {{Jossed}}. Delilah is simply a high-level human wizard of necromancy.
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** While as of Episode 34 there's been no sign of the horn, [[spoiler: the Briarwoods seem to have constructed a temple to Vecna in order to summon some dark force into the world. Vecna, being first a necromancer and eventually a lich (and in some planes an actual god), it is possible this theme of undeath will link back to Orcus in some way.]]
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*And then [[spoiler: un-Jossed and confirmed in Episode 34 - Cassandra's name is added to The List after she betrays Vox Machina to the Briarwoods.]]
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Another theory proposed by Creator/LiamOBrien - this time, speculating that the last barrel on The List is for any remaining de Rollo family members who may have been turned traitor by the Briarwoods. Most likely, this would be Percy's sister, who was the last person Percy saw alive.

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Another theory proposed by Creator/LiamOBrien - this time, speculating that the last barrel on The List is for any remaining de Rollo Rolo family members who may have been turned traitor by the Briarwoods. Most likely, this would be Percy's sister, who was the last person Percy saw alive.



!!Cassandra de Rollo is still alive
In the Feast, Percy mentions that his younger sister Cassandra freed him, and that she was the last of his siblings he saw alive. [[spoiler: In the same episode, the Briarwoods casually mention that ''something'' in the forest around Whitestone is making it difficult for them to export timber, and Vox Machina offers up their services to help deal with it. It's possible that it's Cassandra, or another living de Rollo, hassling the Briarwoods in any way they can.]]

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!!Cassandra de Rollo Rolo is still alive
In the Feast, Percy mentions that his younger sister Cassandra freed him, and that she was the last of his siblings he saw alive. [[spoiler: In the same episode, the Briarwoods casually mention that ''something'' in the forest around Whitestone is making it difficult for them to export timber, and Vox Machina offers up their services to help deal with it. It's possible that it's Cassandra, or another living de Rollo, Rolo, hassling the Briarwoods in any way they can.]]



Either Percy is traumatized, being manipulated by the odd smoky creature who offered him revenge, or just insane, but he describes his memories of the murders as "fuzzy." It's possible that Percy was either somehow culpable, or that the Briarwoods were not the actual villains, but either way, what happened to the de Rollos was not so simple.

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Either Percy is traumatized, being manipulated by the odd smoky creature who offered him revenge, or just insane, but he describes his memories of the murders as "fuzzy." It's possible that Percy was either somehow culpable, or that the Briarwoods were not the actual villains, but either way, what happened to the de Rollos Rolos was not so simple.



So Silas Briarwood is a vampire, and Delilah might either be a Lich or a necromancer - at the very least, both of them are very well acquainted with the undead. The carriage driver's story indicates that the entire de Rollo property has been covered in a strange green mist, and that undead servants roam the halls. We also know that the Briarwoods have been feverishly digging for artifacts beneath Whitestone, as well as interrogating the family members - in Percy's words, "asking questions about the castle." If the second Horn is a long-guarded de Rollo family secret, it would make sense that Percy wouldn't know anything about it; he's the third child, and explicitly says that his brother and sister, Julius and Vesper, handled "matters of court." Not to mention there's the smoky entity that offered Percy vengeance for the deaths of his family - perhaps it is one of Orcus's godly opponents, attempting to stop the Briarwoods from accessing the horn.

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So Silas Briarwood is a vampire, and Delilah might either be a Lich or a necromancer - at the very least, both of them are very well acquainted with the undead. The carriage driver's story indicates that the entire de Rollo Rolo property has been covered in a strange green mist, and that undead servants roam the halls. We also know that the Briarwoods have been feverishly digging for artifacts beneath Whitestone, as well as interrogating the family members - in Percy's words, "asking questions about the castle." If the second Horn is a long-guarded de Rollo Rolo family secret, it would make sense that Percy wouldn't know anything about it; he's the third child, and explicitly says that his brother and sister, Julius and Vesper, handled "matters of court." Not to mention there's the smoky entity that offered Percy vengeance for the deaths of his family - perhaps it is one of Orcus's godly opponents, attempting to stop the Briarwoods from accessing the horn.



!!Kynan will come back as a villain or rival

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!!Kynan will not come back, because he's dead
Vax's suggestion that Kynan train himself resulted in Kynan seeking out something he couldn't handle and meeting an untimely end. This is supported by the fact that Vax couldn't find Kynan in the city in Episode 24. It's also compatible with the theory above - Kynan may come back as a spectre or other malevolent undead.

* It's possible that the boy who was at the feast that Vox Machina thought that maybe they kind of recognized, is indeed Kynan and is already under the thrall of the Brairwoods, possibly even before the Briarwoods ever came to Emon.
* {{Jossed}}: The boy in question is named Desmond. Percy likely recognized him because his father was a messenger for the de Rollo family.

!!Kynan will come back as a hero

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!!Kynan !!Kainan will not come back, because he's dead
Vax's suggestion that Kynan Kainan train himself resulted in Kynan Kainan seeking out something he couldn't handle and meeting an untimely end. This is supported by the fact that Vax couldn't find Kynan Kainan in the city in Episode 24. It's also compatible with the theory above - Kynan Kainan may come back as a spectre or other malevolent undead.

* It's possible that the boy who was at the feast that Vox Machina thought that maybe they kind of recognized, is indeed Kynan Kainan and is already under the thrall of the Brairwoods, possibly even before the Briarwoods ever came to Emon.
* {{Jossed}}: The boy in question is named Desmond. Percy likely recognized him because his father was a messenger for the de Rollo Rolo family.

!!Kynan !!Kainan will come back as a hero
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As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - you've seen ''Main/TheIncredibles'', right?"

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As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - -- you've seen ''Main/TheIncredibles'', ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'', right?"
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* {{Jossed}} in Episode 30. See above.
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* Fully {{Jossed}} in Episode 30. Percy explains that the unmarked barrel represents all the casualties that will occur as a result of him inventing his guns.
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** [[spoiler: Confirmed in Episode 30 - Cassandra is living in the castle, feeding information to the rebellion.]]
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* {{Jossed}} as of Episode 29...Maybe. Scanlan explicitly asks Percy if the barrel is for him, Percy says no, and Matt doesn't call for any Deception checks. Then again, even ''asking'' for a Deception check would spoil the answer for the players, and the next words out of Percy's mouth are "even if it was, would I tell you?"
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* {{Jossed:}} The boy in question is named Desmond. Percy likely recognized him because his father was a messenger for the de Rollo family.

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* {{Jossed:}} {{Jossed}}: The boy in question is named Desmond. Percy likely recognized him because his father was a messenger for the de Rollo family.
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** Another theory is that she is an [[http://vox-machina.tumblr.com/post/130841027863/lady-briarwood Ancient Night Hag.]]




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* {{Jossed:}} The boy in question is named Desmond. Percy likely recognized him because his father was a messenger for the de Rollo family.
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!! The second Horn of Orcus is beneath Whitestone.
So Silas Briarwood is a vampire, and Delilah might either be a Lich or a necromancer - at the very least, both of them are very well acquainted with the undead. The carriage driver's story indicates that the entire de Rollo property has been covered in a strange green mist, and that undead servants roam the halls. We also know that the Briarwoods have been feverishly digging for artifacts beneath Whitestone, as well as interrogating the family members - in Percy's words, "asking questions about the castle." If the second Horn is a long-guarded de Rollo family secret, it would make sense that Percy wouldn't know anything about it; he's the third child, and explicitly says that his brother and sister, Julius and Vesper, handled "matters of court." Not to mention there's the smoky entity that offered Percy vengeance for the deaths of his family - perhaps it is one of Orcus's godly opponents, attempting to stop the Briarwoods from accessing the horn.
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** As of episode 26, Delilah is assumed to be a Lich.
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It's pretty clear that they're not human, what with them calling [[spoiler: Vax "delicious"]] and all. The most obvious consensus is that they're vampires, but succubi and glabrezu have also been suggested.
** Confirmed: The Briarwoods are vampires, [[TheUntwist to the surprise of very few Critters]].

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It's pretty clear that they're not human, what with them calling [[spoiler: Vax "delicious"]] Vax]] "delicious" and all. The most obvious consensus is that they're vampires, but succubi and glabrezu have also been suggested.
** Partially Confirmed: The Briarwoods are vampires, Silas Briarwood is a vampire, [[TheUntwist to the surprise of very few Critters]].
Critters]]. However, Matt has implied that [[https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/647463198749097985 Delilah might be something else.]] And to be fair, she never appeared to have fangs, regenerate, or comment on anyone's deliciousness - that was all Silas.
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It's pretty clear that they're not human, what with them calling [[spoiler: Vax "delicious"]] and all. The most obvious consensus is that they're vampires, but succubi and glabrezu have also been suggested

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It's pretty clear that they're not human, what with them calling [[spoiler: Vax "delicious"]] and all. The most obvious consensus is that they're vampires, but succubi and glabrezu have also been suggested
suggested.
** Confirmed: The Briarwoods are vampires, [[TheUntwist to the surprise of very few Critters]].
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!!Cassandra de Rollo is still alive
In the Feast, Percy mentions that his younger sister Cassandra freed him, and that she was the last of his siblings he saw alive. [[spoiler: In the same episode, the Briarwoods casually mention that ''something'' in the forest around Whitestone is making it difficult for them to export timber, and Vox Machina offers up their services to help deal with it. It's possible that it's Cassandra, or another living de Rollo, hassling the Briarwoods in any way they can.]]
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* It's possible that the boy who was at the feast that Vox Machina thought that maybe they kind of recognized, is indeed Kynan and is already under the thrall of the Brairwoods, possibly even before the Briarwoods ever came to Emon.
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As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - you've seen ''Film/TheIncredibles'', right?"

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As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - you've seen ''Film/TheIncredibles'', ''Main/TheIncredibles'', right?"
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As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - you've seen ''Film/TheIncredibles'', right?

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As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - you've seen ''Film/TheIncredibles'', right?
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Both [[Creator/MarishaRay Marisha/Keyleth]] and [[Creator/LauraBailey Laura/Vex]] seem to agree that Vax's suggestion that Kynan train himself resulted in Kynan seeking out something he couldn't handle and meeting an untimely end. This is supported by the fact that Vax couldn't find Kynan in the city in Episode 24. It's also compatible with the theory above - Kynan may come back as a spectre or other malevolent undead.

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Both [[Creator/MarishaRay Marisha/Keyleth]] and [[Creator/LauraBailey Laura/Vex]] seem to agree that Vax's suggestion that Kynan train himself resulted in Kynan seeking out something he couldn't handle and meeting an untimely end. This is supported by the fact that Vax couldn't find Kynan in the city in Episode 24. It's also compatible with the theory above - Kynan may come back as a spectre or other malevolent undead.
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People ''adored'' Zahra, Lyra, Kashaw and Thorbir, and it would be a shame not to see them again. More importantly, they left behind a few interesting plot threads, such as Zahra's creepy father, Kashaw's creepy god, and, of course, [[spoiler: the BigDamnKiss.]] Also (except for Kashaw, whose whereabouts are unknown) they're a band of monster hunters, so they're ideally suited to show up just in the nick of time when Vox Machina is fighting something nasty. And Kashaw is a cleric - now that they no longer have Pike around, he might be the ideal person to call should they ever need a resurrection performed.

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People ''adored'' Zahra, Lyra, Kashaw and Thorbir, and it would be a shame not to see them again. More importantly, they left behind a few interesting plot threads, such as Zahra's creepy father, Kashaw's creepy god, and, of course, [[spoiler: the BigDamnKiss.]] Also (except for Kashaw, whose whereabouts are unknown) they're a band of monster hunters, so they're ideally suited to show up just in the nick of time when Vox Machina is fighting something nasty. And Kashaw is a cleric - now that they no longer have Pike around, he might be the ideal person to call should they ever need a resurrection performed.performed.

!!Kynan will come back as a villain or rival
As [[Creator/TravisWillingham Travis]] put it, "Dude, don't be mean to the kid - you've seen ''Film/TheIncredibles'', right?

!!Kynan will not come back, because he's dead
Both [[Creator/MarishaRay Marisha/Keyleth]] and [[Creator/LauraBailey Laura/Vex]] seem to agree that Vax's suggestion that Kynan train himself resulted in Kynan seeking out something he couldn't handle and meeting an untimely end. This is supported by the fact that Vax couldn't find Kynan in the city in Episode 24. It's also compatible with the theory above - Kynan may come back as a spectre or other malevolent undead.

!!Kynan will come back as a hero
He's probably even more ideally situated for a BigDamnHeroes moment than the Slayer's Take members. If Vox Machina gets into a particularly hairy situation in Emon, (which they are, as of Episode 24), he's in a perfect position to rescue them out of the blue.
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It's pretty clear he's NotAfraidToDie, but his risks have become increasingly reckless as time goes on. Episodes 23 & 24, if you squint, read like Vax's bucket list. He gets a tattoo, plays pranks on Vex and Grog, tries to talk Kainen out of following him, tries to repair that relationship when it goes south by leaving Kainen a gift, confesses everything about K'varn and [[spoiler: the Horn of Orcus]] to Gilmore (and even greets him with what could be both a [[spoiler: FirstKiss and a LastKiss - on the cheek, mind.]]) He pays off the servants at the keep and repays his other debts. He apologizes to Gilmore for not being able to uphold their deal of spreading the word about Gilmore's glorious goods. He's ''getting his affairs in order.'' And of course, to top it all off, [[spoiler: he makes a series of incredibly stupid mistakes that get him trapped with the Briarwoods, which could easily lead to his death.]] Aside from depression or trauma - the latter of which could be very possible, considering how shaken up he was by the time in the Underdark - the only major thing we're missing is a clear reason as to why Vax would want to die.

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It's pretty clear he's NotAfraidToDie, but his risks have become increasingly reckless as time goes on. Episodes 23 & 24, if you squint, read like Vax's bucket list. He gets a tattoo, plays pranks on Vex and Grog, tries to talk Kainen out of following him, tries to repair that relationship when it goes south by leaving Kainen a gift, confesses everything about K'varn and [[spoiler: the Horn of Orcus]] to Gilmore (and even greets him with what could be both a [[spoiler: FirstKiss and a LastKiss - on the cheek, mind.]]) He pays off the servants at the keep and repays his other debts. He apologizes to Gilmore for not being able to uphold their deal of spreading the word about Gilmore's glorious goods. He's ''getting his affairs in order.'' And of course, to top it all off, [[spoiler: he makes a series of incredibly stupid mistakes that get him trapped with the Briarwoods, which could easily lead to his death.]] Aside from depression or trauma - the latter of which could be very possible, considering how shaken up he was by the time in the Underdark - the only major thing we're missing is a clear reason as to why Vax would want to die.die.

!!Gilmore is AffablyEvil
Sure, he's charming and charismatic and friendly, but it's pretty clear that his first priority is his business, and we don't know how far he'd be willing to go for it. Even when the HoYay with Vax gets intense, he always circles it back around to the business. It's also true that he has a lot of insider knowledge on Vox Machina, particularly now that [[spoiler: Vax has told him about the Horn of Orcus.]] He'd have a great grasp of their strengths and weaknesses based on their purchases.
* More specifically, some people suspect he's working with [[spoiler: the Briarwoods,]] as both of them seem to have an interest in trade.

!!The Slayer's Take Characters will come back, probably as BigDamnHeroes
People ''adored'' Zahra, Lyra, Kashaw and Thorbir, and it would be a shame not to see them again. More importantly, they left behind a few interesting plot threads, such as Zahra's creepy father, Kashaw's creepy god, and, of course, [[spoiler: the BigDamnKiss.]] Also (except for Kashaw, whose whereabouts are unknown) they're a band of monster hunters, so they're ideally suited to show up just in the nick of time when Vox Machina is fighting something nasty. And Kashaw is a cleric - now that they no longer have Pike around, he might be the ideal person to call should they ever need a resurrection performed.
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!!The last barrel on The List is for Percy
Both the fans and Creator/LiamOBrien have [[https://twitter.com/VoiceOfOBrien/status/644897472251195392 speculated]] that the unmarked barrel on Percy's pepperbox is for himself. Once he gets his revenge, he might be planning to rejoin his family.

!!The last barrel on The List is for Percy's sister
Another theory proposed by Creator/LiamOBrien - this time, speculating that the last barrel on The List is for any remaining de Rollo family members who may have been turned traitor by the Briarwoods. Most likely, this would be Percy's sister, who was the last person Percy saw alive.

!!Percy's memories of his family's death are not accurate
Either Percy is traumatized, being manipulated by the odd smoky creature who offered him revenge, or just insane, but he describes his memories of the murders as "fuzzy." It's possible that Percy was either somehow culpable, or that the Briarwoods were not the actual villains, but either way, what happened to the de Rollos was not so simple.

!!The Briarwoods are vampires/demons/etc
It's pretty clear that they're not human, what with them calling [[spoiler: Vax "delicious"]] and all. The most obvious consensus is that they're vampires, but succubi and glabrezu have also been suggested

!!Keyleth's vision was not of [[spoiler: her death]], but of the final part of the Aramente trials.
It's not likely that Matt would just [[spoiler: kill someone from Vox Machina as a part of the plot]], but it ''is'' likely that he'll find a way to make Keyleth's vision come true. There are plenty of spells of varying power that could forcibly [[spoiler: turn someone into a tree]], like [[spoiler: Tree Shape, Polymorph, or True Polymorph. Note that True Polymorph is not a druid spell, but it would be easy to make an exception in Matt's world when they've built entire classes from scratch.]] The last part of the Aramente involves proving Keyleth's worth, as it would with any other trial, but this one is specifically for [[spoiler: the worth of the bonds she has made on her travels. She may be forced into a tree shape, with the rest of Vox Machina called to her defense.]] That would also explain why the members of Vox Machina were shouting "for our Princess" in her vision.
* In addition, this could be why [[spoiler: Keyleth's mother failed her Aramente; there was nobody there to release her from her tree state. True Polymorph is permanent if concentration is maintained for one hour, so Keyleth's mother might still be out there somewhere as a tree.]]

!!Vax is a DeathSeeker
It's pretty clear he's NotAfraidToDie, but his risks have become increasingly reckless as time goes on. Episodes 23 & 24, if you squint, read like Vax's bucket list. He gets a tattoo, plays pranks on Vex and Grog, tries to talk Kainen out of following him, tries to repair that relationship when it goes south by leaving Kainen a gift, confesses everything about K'varn and [[spoiler: the Horn of Orcus]] to Gilmore (and even greets him with what could be both a [[spoiler: FirstKiss and a LastKiss - on the cheek, mind.]]) He pays off the servants at the keep and repays his other debts. He apologizes to Gilmore for not being able to uphold their deal of spreading the word about Gilmore's glorious goods. He's ''getting his affairs in order.'' And of course, to top it all off, [[spoiler: he makes a series of incredibly stupid mistakes that get him trapped with the Briarwoods, which could easily lead to his death.]] Aside from depression or trauma - the latter of which could be very possible, considering how shaken up he was by the time in the Underdark - the only major thing we're missing is a clear reason as to why Vax would want to die.

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