History WMG / CentralPark

''Central Park'' has made it somewhat ambiguous as to what Birdie can and cannot do or know: while he knows everything about the story, he has to still figure out what each character knows, and it's implied the main reason he knows some of what he does about the Tillermans is because he spies on them. He's certainly not omniscient, but as a narrator, the role he plays is generally outside of the story: he just happens to also be in the world with the characters. However, none of the rules provided in the list shown during "Spoiler Alert" directly say a narrator can't change the story, simply "no spoilers". By saving Owen and Cole, Birdie did not break any rules, but -- [[ForWantOfANail by virtue of changing the story by saving them]] -- has become a part of it himself, and is reinstated as narrator to keep his character within the story to prevent something akin to an in-universe DiedDuringProduction, as opposed to Griffin, who has done nothing at all and is ergo expendable. Notably, Griffin agrees with Birdie that while narrators ''are'' allowed to interact with the story and the characters in order to gently nudge the story along, the characters ultimately make their own choices- in his eyes, a narrator getting "too close" to the characters leads to the narrator getting too invested in them and jeopardizing their free will (which Birdie nearly did with Paige); and therefore they should instead allow the consequences of the character's actions, good ''and'' bad, to take their natural course, even if it means letting them get hurt by said choices. This implies that this is allowed in some form; it's just that they didn't realize "no spoilers" and "don't interfere" are not the same rule.

''Central Park'' has made it somewhat ambiguous as to what Birdie can and cannot do or know: while he knows everything about the story, he has to still figure out what each character knows, and it's implied the main reason he knows some of what he does about the Tillermans is because he spies on them. He's certainly not omniscient, but as a narrator, the role he plays is generally outside of the story: he just happens to also be in the world with the characters. However, none of the rules provided in the list shown during "Spoiler Alert" directly say a narrator can't change the story, simply "no spoilers". By saving Owen and Cole, Birdie did not break any rules, but — [[ForWantOfANail by virtue of changing the story by saving them]] — has become a part of it himself, and is reinstated as narrator to keep his character within the story to prevent something akin to an in-universe AuthorExistenceFailure, as opposed to Griffin, who has done nothing at all and is ergo expendable. Notably, Griffin agrees with Birdie that while narrators ''are'' allowed to interact with the story and the characters in order to gently nudge the story along, the characters ultimately make their own choices- in his eyes, a narrator getting "too close" to the characters leads to the narrator getting too invested in them and jeopardizing their free will (which Birdie nearly did with Paige); and therefore they should instead allow the consequences of the character's actions, good ''and'' bad, to take their natural course, even if it means letting them get hurt by said choices. This implies that this is allowed in some form; it's just that they didn't realize "no spoilers" and "don't interfere" are not the same rule.

''Central Park'' has made it somewhat ambiguous as to what Birdie can and cannot do or know: while he knows everything about the story, he has to still figure out what each character knows, and it's implied the main reason he knows some of what he does about the Tillermans is because he spies on them. He's certainly not omniscient, but as a narrator, the role he plays is generally outside of the story: he just happens to also be in the world with the characters. However, no rules provided in the list shown during "Spoiler Alert" say a narrator cannot change the story, simply no spoilers. By saving Owen and Cole, Birdie did not break any rules, but — [[ForWantOfANail by virtue of changing the story by saving them]] — has become a part of it himself, and is reinstated as narrator to keep his character within the story to prevent something akin to an in-universe AuthorExistenceFailure, as opposed to Griffin, who has done nothing at all and is ergo expendable. Notably, Griffin agrees with Birdie that narrators ''are'' allowed to interact with the story and the characters slightly, as opposed to completely shutting down the idea, which implies that this is allowed in some form; it's just that they didn't realize "no spoilers" and "don't interfere" are not the same rule.

He interfered in a previous story he was narrating and it ended badly: Maybe it got him transferred away from people he'd grown attached to or resulted in a DownerEnding that wasn't supposed to happen, or maybe the BadEnd he was trying to avoid came to pass anyway and he became disillusioned with trying to change stories for the better. Whatever the specifics, it was enough to convince Griffin that the best thing a narrator can do is to stand back and let the characters make their own decisions, even if those decisions lead to unpleasant outcomes.

[[WMG: Griffin's adherence to the Narrator Non-Interference Policy comes from personal experience.]]

He interfered in a previous story he was narrating and it ended badly: Maybe it got him transferred away from people he'd grown attached to or resulted in a DownerEnding that wasn't supposed to happen, or maybe the BadEnd he was trying to avoid came to pass anyway and he became disillusioned with trying to change stories for the better. Whatever the specifics, it was enough to convince Griffin that the best thing a Narrator can do is sit back and let things play out as they're "meant" to happen.

As explained in Episodes V & VI, part of the Narrator Rules is that they are not allowed to reveal Major Spoilers, which can change the entire course of the Story. The song "''Too Close''" also suggests that the Story of ''Central Park'' itself is intended to have a DownerEnding. However, Birdie is going to step in, since he knows how the Story is suppose to go through his time as narrator, in order to save the Park under ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight reasoning.

As explained in Episodes V & VI, part of the Narrator Rules is that they are not allowed reveal Major Spoilers, which can change the entire course of the Story. The song "''Too Close''" also suggests that the Story of ''Central Park'' itself is intended to have a DownerEnding. However, Birdie is going to step him, since he knows how the Story is suppose to go through his time as narrator, in order to save the Park under ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight reasoning.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, insignificant ways, such as giving hints or nudging the characters in the right direction, which seems to be shown when accidentally revealing a major plot point to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie, but helping Owen and Cole out of the tree despite Griffin’s warning that interfering a second time could remove him from the story altogether gives him his role back.

Why is this? Well, the big difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was the ''reason'' he interferes: the first time’s out of selfishness- he tells Paige the spoiler (even if accidentally) because he’s frustrated, impatient, and knows that Bitsy’s scheme will come to fruition by the time she ever figures it out on her own. The second time he interferes, it’s out of genuine concern and love- he just can’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, even if helping means the possibility of never seeing them again. This seems to imply that the narrator role ''does'' allow a narrator to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

''Central Park'' has made it somewhat ambiguous as to what Birdie can and cannot do or know: while he knows everything about the story, he has to still figure out what each character knows, and it's implied the main reason he knows some of what he does about the Tillermans is because he spies on them. He's certainly not omniscient, but as a narrator, the role he plays is generally outside of the story: he just happens to also be in the world with the characters. However, no rules provided in the list shown during "Spoiler Alert" say a narrator cannot change the story, simply no spoilers. By saving Owen and Cole, Birdie did not break any rules, but - [[ForWantOfANail by virtue of changing the story by saving them]] - has become a part of it himself, and is reinstated as narrator to keep his character within the story to prevent something akin to an in-universe AuthorExistenceFailure, as opposed to Griffin, who has done nothing at all and is ergo expendable. Notably, Griffin agrees with Birdie that narrators ''are'' allowed to interact with the story and the characters slightly, as opposed to completely shutting down the idea, which implies that this is allowed in some form; it's just that they didn't realize "no spoilers" and "don't interfere" are not the same rule.

It would be the ultimate irony - after all that time trying to get rid of Shampagne in order to inherit everything, she succeeds in getting the inheritance... only to be stuck with Shampagne in order to get any of it.

... in Season Two, as the Narrator of another story that intersects with the Birdie-narrated story of the Tillermans. This will either bring them into conflict again as they try to make their own narration (and the ones they're narrating for) take precedence over the other or will result in a reluctant co-narration until the two storylines diverge again.

... in Season Two, as the Narrator of another story that intersects with the Birdie-narrated story of the Tillermans and Central Park.

Why is this? Well, the big difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was the ''reason'' he interferes: the first time’s out of selfishness- he tells Paige the spoiler (even if accidentally) because he’s frustrated, impatient, and knows that Bitsy’s scheme will come to fruition by the time she ever figures it out on her own. The second time he interferes, it’s out of genuine concern and love- he just can’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, even if helping means the possibility of never seeing them again. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Why is this? Well, the big difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was the ''reason'' he interferes: the first time’s out of selfishness- he tells Paige the spoiler (even if accidentally) because he’s frustrated, impatient, and knows that Bitsy’s scheme will be long complete by the time she ever figures it out on her own. The second time he interferes, it’s out of genuine concern and love- he just can’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, even if helping means the possibility of never seeing them again. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Why is this? Well, the big difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was the ''reason'' he interferes: The first time’s out of selfishness- he tells Paige the spoiler (even if accidentally) because he’s frustrated, impatient, and knows that Bitsy’s scheme will be long complete by the time she ever figures it out on her own. The second time he interferes, it’s out of genuine concern and love- he just can’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, despite the possibility of never seeing them again if he goes through with it. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, insignificant ways, such as giving hints or nudging the characters in the right direction, which seems to be shown when accidentally revealing a major plot point to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie, but he’s put back in charge after he helps Owen and Cole out of the tree despite Griffin’s warning that interfering a second time could remove him from the story altogether. The difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was ''why'' he interfered- the first time was because he’d gotten too frustrated and impatient with how long it was taking Paige to realize the truth, while the second was because he just couldn’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, despite the threat of never seeing them again. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when accidentally revealing a major plot point to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he gets the role back after he helps Owen and Cole out of the tree, despite Griffin’s warning that interfering a second time could remove him from the story altogether. The difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was that the first was motivated by his own frustration and impatience with how long it was taking Paige to realize the truth, while the second was because he just couldn’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, despite the threat of never seeing them again hanging over him. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when accidentally revealing a major plot point to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he gets the role back after he helps Owen and Cole out of the tree, despite Griffin’s warning that interfering a second time could remove him from the story altogether. The difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was that Birdie’s spoiler leak was caused by his own frustration and impatience with how long it was taking Paige to realize the truth, while the second was because he just couldn’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, despite the threat of never seeing them again hanging over him. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

[[WMG: Birdie is allowed to interfere, but only to help the Tillerman family for unselfish motives.]]

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when accidentally revealing the plot to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he gets the role back after he helps Owen and Cole out of the tree, despite Griffin’s warning that interfering a second time could remove him from the story altogether. The difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was that Birdie’s spoiler leak to Paige was caused by his own frustration and impatience with how long it was taking her to realize the truth, while the second was because he just couldn’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, despite the threat of never seeing them again hanging over him. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, and insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when accidentally revealing the plot to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he gets the role back after he helps Owen and Cole out of the tree, despite Griffin’s warning that interfering with the plot a second time could remove him from the story altogether. The difference between Birdie’s two moments of “interference” in the plot was that Birdie’s spoiler to Paige was caused by his own frustration and impatience with how long it was taking her to realize the truth, while the second was because he couldn’t stand idly by and allow two of his friends to potentially die, despite the threat of never seeing them again. This seems to imply that the narrator role *does* allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

[[WMG: Birdie is allowed to interfere, but only to Help the Tillerman family for unselfish motives.]]

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, and insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when revealing the Plot to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he receives the role back when he assists Owen and Cole out of the tree, a decision that Griffin warns may remove Birdie from the plot altogether. The distinction between the two incidents was that the first incident happened because Birdie was getting bored waiting for Paige to figure out the Plot, whereas the second was motivated by him not allowing two of his friends to die. This seems to imply that the narrator role does allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/{{Pippin}}''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, and insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when revealing the Plot to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he receives the role back when he assists Owen and Cole out of the tree, a decision that Griffin warns may remove Birdie from the plot all together. The distinction between the two incidents was that the first incident happened because Birdie was getting bored waiting for Paige to figure out the Plot, whereas the second was motivated by him not allowing two of his friends to die. This seems to imply that the narrator role does allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Pippin''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, and insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when revealing the Plot to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he receives the role back when he assists Owen and Cole out of the tree, a decision that Griffin warns may remove Birdie from the plot all together. The distinction between the two incidents was that the first incident happened because Birdie was getting bored waiting for Paige to figure out the Plot, whereas the second was motivated by him not allowing two of his friends to die. This seems to imply that the narrator role does allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

Central Park seems to deal with the Meta-narrative concept of the role of the narrator in a musical production, in a Similar vein to ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'' or ''Theatre/Pippin''. The rules presented seem to imply Narrators aren't allowed to interfere with a story already in place except in small, and insignificant ways, such as giving hints or pointing in the right direction. This seems to be shown when revealing the Plot to Paige takes the role of narrator away from Birdie. However, he receives the role back when he assists Owen and Cole out of the tree, a decision that Griffin warns may remove Birdie from the plot all together. The distinction between the two incidents was that the first incident happened because Birdie was getting bored waiting for Paige to figure out the Plot, whereas the second was motivated by him not allowing two of his friends to die. This seems to imply that the narrator role does allow a character to interfere with the plot, so long as the decision to do so is based on unselfish motives.

As explained in Episodes V & VI, part of the Narrator Rules is that they are not allowed reveal Major Spoilers, which can change the entire course of the Story. The song "''Too Close''" also suggests that the Story of ''Central Park'' itself is intended to have a DownerEnding. However, Birdie is going to step him, since he knows how the Story is suppose to go through his time as narrator, in order to save the Park under ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight reasoning.

As explained in Episodes V & VI, part of the Narrator Rules is that they are not allowed reveal Major Spoilers, which can change the entire course of the Story. The song "''Too Close''" also suggests that the Story of ''Central Park'' itself is intended to have a DownerEnding. However, Birdie is going to step him, since h knows how the Story is suppose to go, in order to save the Park under ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight reasoning.

As explained in Episodes V & VI, part of the Narrator Rules is that they are not allowed reveal Major Spoilers, which can change the entire course of the Story. The song "''Too Close''" also suggests that the Story of ''Central Park'' itself is intended to have a DownerEnding. However, Birdie is going to step him, since knows how the Story is suppose to go, in order to save the Park under ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight reasoning.

As explained in Episodes V & VI, part of the Narrator Rules is that they can not reveal Spoilers, which can change the entire course of the Story. The song "Too Close" also suggests that the Story of ''Central Park'' itself is intended to have a DownerEnding. However, Birdie is going to step him, since knows how the Story is suppose to go, in order to save the Park under ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight reasoning.