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** Thoroughly Jossed--however, it does take place concurrently with Dark Survival, as revealed in the Archives.



* Strongly implied.

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* Strongly implied.
Confirmed to be either her or one of the failed attempts to create her.




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* Completely jossed.



* Nathan doesn't even see to know about the Ink Machine.

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* Nathan doesn't even see seem to know about the Ink Machine.



* Jossed, they are a ghost

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* Jossed, they are a ghost
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* Buddy Boris does not return.

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* Buddy Boris does not return.
return. The Archives suggest his game, Dark Survival, is running concurrently to Dark Revival.




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* Jossed.




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* In TIOL, Nathan's notes indicate that he doesn't like Henry.




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* He's pretending to be this, but his motivation is revealed to be a selfish one in the end.



* Likely jossed, since Wilson is Nathan's son.

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* Likely jossed, Jossed, since Wilson is Nathan's son.



* Jossed, Wilson most likely would have been too young at the time.

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* Jossed, Wilson most likely would have been too young at the time.




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* Likely jossed.




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* This theory is jossed by the Archives, which confirm that Henry has no soul and is only a creation of the ink machine.




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* Almost confirmed by the Archives--it's not the ink, it's crossing back and forth between the cycle and real world repeatedly that artificially aged him.



[[WMG: Abby Lambert will be the player character of the third game]]
Probably not, but I can dream.




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* The reason Wilson looks so old has been confirmed to be "unnaturally entering to and from the ink realm."
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* He chows down on several lost ones throughout the game, and Audrey (The first-person camera zooms in on his opening mouth, which is as clear as I think it can get) and I thought the implication at the end of TLO was that Bill got eaten? Although semantically 'teenager' and 'child are different things, yes.

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* He chows down on several lost ones throughout the game, and Audrey (The first-person camera zooms in on his opening mouth, and the splash page for dying to him says '''CONSUMED''', which is as clear as I think it can get) and I thought the implication at the end of TLO was that Bill got eaten? Although semantically 'teenager' and 'child are different things, yes.
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* He chows down on several lost ones throughout the game, and Audrey (The first-person camera zooms in on his opening mouth, which is as clear as I think it can get) and I thought the implication at the end of TLO was that Bill got eaten? Although semantically 'teenager' and 'child are different things, yes.
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* ''Teenagers'', not children. The youngest person with a confirmed age he killed was 17. It's also never stated or shown that he ever ate anyone.
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* He has canonically killed and eaten multiple teenagers.
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[[WMG: Even at his evilest, The Ink Demon WouldntHurtAChild]]
Yes this ''is'' here solely because I think villains wiki voting him "pure evil" shows a massive misunderstanding of his character, how could you tell?
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[[If the next game revolves around the GENT corporation taking the Ink Machine, a major conflict is going to involve [[FearfulSymmetry the fictional copies of Tom and Allison going up against the real ones]].]]

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* The alarm clock's information box does directly reference a line in one of Joey's tapes about not having much time together left, which doesn't make much sense if it's about Nathan.



* The image of her drawing with Joey seen during the credits looks younger than 10. Maybe she aged faster through childhood?

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* The image of her drawing with Joey seen during the credits looks younger than 10.10, closer to a 4-5 year old. Maybe she aged faster through childhood?




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[[WMG: Betty and Alice are in cahoots.]]
Twisted Alice has been living in the North Ward for an unknown amount of time after she escaped the Pit. Betty, as the housekeeper, should probably be aware when someone just starts living in the house, and when Audrey emerges from the North Ward after however long she's been unconscious, Betty doesn't really seem to react outside of telling her that Wilson's been waiting. Almost as if she knew Audrey had been taken and didn't care. Additionally, when Alice shows up to kidnap Audrey, she does it at exact same time she takes a sip of the 'sleeping potion' given to her by Betty. How would she have known how quickly it was going to take effect...unless the person who made it told her?

[[If the next game revolves around the GENT corporation taking the Ink Machine, a major conflict is going to involve [[FearfulSymmetry the fictional copies of Tom and Allison going up against the real ones]].]]
It seems likely that GENT are being set up as the next big villains, and the real Thomas Connor works for them. If they're doing experiments on the world inside the ink machine, it stands to reason Allison Angel and Tom would want to stop the threat against their world, which could lead to a real-verses-ink MirrorMatch.
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The real Tom, Allison, and others were never sucked into the Ink Machine. But Joey did invite them over to see the machine, and when they interacted with it it created an "impression" of them that became their counterparts in the Ink world. The ink beings in the Ink world that have their own personalities are all "impressions" of people in our world that had a significant effect/role in the studio, while the mindless enemies are the personifications of the minor employees and the general sense of dread and unhappiness as the studio gradually fell into disrepair.


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The real Tom, Allison, and others were never sucked into transformed the Ink Machine. But Joey did invite them over to see the machine, and when they interacted with it it created an "impression" of them that became their counterparts in the Ink world.world and possibly used part of their soul to do it.. The ink beings in the Ink world that have their own personalities are all "impressions" of people in our world that had a significant effect/role in the studio, while the mindless enemies are the personifications of the minor employees and the general sense of dread and unhappiness as the studio gradually fell into disrepair.

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[[WMG: Joey Drew didn't actually take the souls of his employees...or at least not their entire soul.]]
The real Tom, Allison, and others were never sucked into the Ink Machine. But Joey did invite them over to see the machine, and when they interacted with it it created an "impression" of them that became their counterparts in the Ink world. The ink beings in the Ink world that have their own personalities are all "impressions" of people in our world that had a significant effect/role in the studio, while the mindless enemies are the personifications of the minor employees and the general sense of dread and unhappiness as the studio gradually fell into disrepair.

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The oldest Wilson could ''possibly'' be (this assumes Nathan and Tessa had him literally as soon as Nathan came back from the war, the earliest this could have happened) is 53, and he looks and sounds older than his father. He does not look 53. Additionally, although the Ink Demon has been gone for exactly 211 days, Henry says he hasn't eaten in ''years'', which would imply he's been in the Pit for quite a lot longer than that. We know he's gone back and forth between the real and ink worlds before, so what if Wilson has been in the Ink Realm for at least a decade, which would have given him ample time to learn about how this world works and do all the things he's doing like create an entire house, the Keepers, etc. He's the only real human in the cycle, and so he continued to age in the loop while none of the others did because they are living cartoons and cartoons do not age. This would also fit with Wilson's audio diary about being hidden in plain sight, because he has a really recognizable face. Unless, of course, he's unrecognizable to everyone because he looks a lot older than he should.

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The oldest Wilson could ''possibly'' be (this assumes Nathan and Tessa had him literally as soon as Nathan came back from the war, the earliest this could have happened) is 53, and he looks and sounds older than his father. He does not look 53. Additionally, although the Ink Demon has been gone for exactly 211 days, Henry says he hasn't eaten in ''years'', which would imply he's been in the Pit for quite a lot longer than that. We know he's gone back and forth between the real and ink worlds before, so what if Wilson has been in the Ink Realm for at least a decade, which would have given him ample time to learn about how this world works and do all the things he's doing like create an entire house, the Keepers, etc. He's the only real human in the cycle, and so he continued to age in the loop while none of the others did because they are living cartoons and cartoons do not age. This would also fit with Wilson's audio diary about being hidden in plain sight, because he sight. He has a really recognizable face. Unless, face, so that diary doesn't make much sense, unless, of course, he's unrecognizable to everyone because he looks a lot older than he should.



The Ink Demon being SuddenlyVoiced is never really commented on by anyone, which doesn't make much sense if it's a newly developed ability. However, a couple of things make it clear that he's not actually speaking aloud, but rather using a sort of mind-to-mind communication through the ink. Note how his mouth doesn't move when he talks at the end before absorbing Audrey. He also states at the beginning of the game that the Ink itself can read mind and memory and speaks to him, so it makes sense he'd be able to use it the other way around. This is corroborated also by that part where he talks to Audrey despite not being anywhere around her, and she responds aloud, to Wilson's surprise.
In the previous game, Allison mentions that Henry seems to be impervious to the effects of the Ink, unlike most Ink Creatures who can't touch it for too long or return to the Well of Voices, which is likely why he's also cut off from hearing the Ink Demon speak through the ink.

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The Ink Demon being SuddenlyVoiced is never really commented on by anyone, which doesn't make much sense if it's a newly developed ability. However, a couple of things make it clear that he's not actually speaking aloud, but rather using a sort of mind-to-mind communication through the ink. Note how his mouth doesn't move when he talks at the end before absorbing Audrey. He also states at the beginning of the game that the Ink itself can read mind and memory and speaks to him, so it makes sense he'd be able to use it the other way around. This is corroborated also by that part where he talks to Audrey despite not being anywhere around her, and she responds aloud, to Wilson's surprise.
surprise. In the previous game, Allison mentions that Henry seems to be impervious to the effects of the Ink, unlike most Ink Creatures who can't touch it for too long or return to the Well of Voices, which is likely why he's also cut off from hearing the Ink Demon speak through the ink.
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* Jossed. There is already a failed copy of the fourth Butcher Gang member who is much more ''failed''. And Carley looks nothing like Betty.



** Wait, where was that said? Didn’t she only say that he hired her as his housekeeper?

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** Wait, where was that said? Didn’t she only say that he hired her as his housekeeper?
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* What reason does she have to lie?




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** Wilson can’t be any older than 53 in BATDR because that’s the year Nathan got back from the war.




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* The image of her drawing with Joey seen during the credits looks younger than 10. Maybe she aged faster through childhood?



In the previous game, Allison mentions that Henry seems to be impervious to the effects of the Ink, unlike most Ink Creatures who can't touch it for too long or return to the Well of Voices, which is likely why he's also cut off from hearing the Ink Demon speak through the ink. So, no one comments on the Ink Demon talking because he's always been able to do that.

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In the previous game, Allison mentions that Henry seems to be impervious to the effects of the Ink, unlike most Ink Creatures who can't touch it for too long or return to the Well of Voices, which is likely why he's also cut off from hearing the Ink Demon speak through the ink. So, no one comments on the Ink Demon talking because he's always been able to do that.
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** He has no reason to lie (and is honest with Audrey about several things that make him look bad, so if he was lying to save face he would probably have left those out as well to make himself look better), making this entire idea completely baseless. Also, why would her disappearance cause it to close when multiple other people went missing from the previous studio without closing? It remained open for years after a very public police investigation before bankruptcy became the reason it closed.



It's implied in the original game that the Ink Machine cannot give the beings it creates souls from nothing, rather, the only way for an ink creature to have a soul is to take one from an already-living human. Yet, in this game, Wilson says that he needs Audrey's soul to perfect his Shipahoy Dudley cartoon, despite her being born from the machine. What if Joey quite literally ''poured part of his soul'' into his work, realizing his mistake with all his prior attempts. It would explain why the Memory of Joey only appears before Audrey and not around any other character, and add another layer to why Wilson needs this specific soul to destroy the Ink Demon, as it's a fragment of his creator.

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It's implied in the original game that the Ink Machine cannot give the beings it creates souls from nothing, rather, the only way for an ink creature to have a soul is to take one from an already-living human. Yet, in this game, Wilson says that he needs Audrey's soul to perfect his Shipahoy Dudley cartoon, despite her being born from the machine.machine (and the Ink Demon corroborates that she indeed has a soul which he ''also'' seems to want, so it's not just Wilson lying again). What if Joey quite literally ''poured part of his soul'' into his work, realizing his mistake with all his prior attempts. It would explain why the Memory of Joey only appears before Audrey and not around any other character, and add another layer to why Wilson needs this specific soul to destroy the Ink Demon, as it's a fragment of his creator.


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[[WMG: The Ink Demon has always been able to speak, Henry just can't hear him since he speaks through the ink, not aloud]]
The Ink Demon being SuddenlyVoiced is never really commented on by anyone, which doesn't make much sense if it's a newly developed ability. However, a couple of things make it clear that he's not actually speaking aloud, but rather using a sort of mind-to-mind communication through the ink. Note how his mouth doesn't move when he talks at the end before absorbing Audrey. He also states at the beginning of the game that the Ink itself can read mind and memory and speaks to him, so it makes sense he'd be able to use it the other way around. This is corroborated also by that part where he talks to Audrey despite not being anywhere around her, and she responds aloud, to Wilson's surprise.
In the previous game, Allison mentions that Henry seems to be impervious to the effects of the Ink, unlike most Ink Creatures who can't touch it for too long or return to the Well of Voices, which is likely why he's also cut off from hearing the Ink Demon speak through the ink. So, no one comments on the Ink Demon talking because he's always been able to do that.
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The oldest Wilson could ''possibly'' be (this assumes Nathan and Tessa had him literally as soon as Nathan came back from the war, the earliest this could have happened) is 53, and he looks and sounds older than his father. He does not look 53. Additionally, although the Ink Demon has been gone for exactly 211 days, Henry says he hasn't eaten in ''years'', which would imply he's been in the Pit for quite a lot longer than that. We know he's gone back and forth between the real and ink worlds before, so what if Wilson has been in the Ink Realm for at least a decade, which would have given him ample time to learn about how this world works and do all the things he's doing like create an entire house, the Keepers, etc. He's the only real human in the cycle, and so he continued to age while none of the others did because they are living cartoons and cartoons do not age. This would also fit with Wilson's audio diary about being hidden in plain sight, because he has a really recognizable face. Unless, of course, he's unrecognizable to everyone because he looks a lot older than he should, like a completely different person.

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The oldest Wilson could ''possibly'' be (this assumes Nathan and Tessa had him literally as soon as Nathan came back from the war, the earliest this could have happened) is 53, and he looks and sounds older than his father. He does not look 53. Additionally, although the Ink Demon has been gone for exactly 211 days, Henry says he hasn't eaten in ''years'', which would imply he's been in the Pit for quite a lot longer than that. We know he's gone back and forth between the real and ink worlds before, so what if Wilson has been in the Ink Realm for at least a decade, which would have given him ample time to learn about how this world works and do all the things he's doing like create an entire house, the Keepers, etc. He's the only real human in the cycle, and so he continued to age in the loop while none of the others did because they are living cartoons and cartoons do not age. This would also fit with Wilson's audio diary about being hidden in plain sight, because he has a really recognizable face. Unless, of course, he's unrecognizable to everyone because he looks a lot older than he should, like a completely different person.
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[[WMG: Wilson has been in the Cycle world for a ''while'']]
The oldest Wilson could ''possibly'' be (this assumes Nathan and Tessa had him literally as soon as Nathan came back from the war, the earliest this could have happened) is 53, and he looks and sounds older than his father. He does not look 53. Additionally, although the Ink Demon has been gone for exactly 211 days, Henry says he hasn't eaten in ''years'', which would imply he's been in the Pit for quite a lot longer than that. We know he's gone back and forth between the real and ink worlds before, so what if Wilson has been in the Ink Realm for at least a decade, which would have given him ample time to learn about how this world works and do all the things he's doing like create an entire house, the Keepers, etc. He's the only real human in the cycle, and so he continued to age while none of the others did because they are living cartoons and cartoons do not age. This would also fit with Wilson's audio diary about being hidden in plain sight, because he has a really recognizable face. Unless, of course, he's unrecognizable to everyone because he looks a lot older than he should, like a completely different person.
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** What exactly determines an ‘incorrect’ soul? That’s completely arbitrary—Susie was an Alice voice actress and she is imperfect. In fact, this whole idea that a soul is needed was never actually established in game aside from one line from Thomas and Joey that lacking a soul is what made the Ink Demon so monstrous, which they easily could have been and ''were'' wrong about, since the Ink Demon’s perfect form is still soulless. Additionally, the idea of a soul needing to ''match'' the ink creature is entirely fanon, and always was. And Audrey is a totally unique being, so how did she even gain a soul; the Ink Machine cannot make them. This idea is jossed by Dark Revival unless you bend over backwards to claim that Allison and Henry have souls despite the game repeatedly saying they do not. And just claiming every piece of lore that goes against your idea is Joey lying is a stretch, especially since Henry himself corroborates not being the real Henry Stein. Having a soul or lacking a soul does not actually effect the resulting ink creature as much as anyone thought it would. In fact, many of the characters who ostensibly have souls are ''worse'' off than those that do. During the beginning of the game, Allison claims that Audrey got ''lucky'' having been created from the machine as a fully realized person rather than an inky mess, and taking all the current information into account, that’s the way it works. However perfect the resulting ink creature is when it’s made from the Ink Machine is completely up to ''luck''.

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** What exactly determines an ‘incorrect’ soul? That’s completely arbitrary—Susie was an Alice voice actress and she is imperfect. In fact, this whole idea that a soul is needed was never actually established in game aside from one line from Thomas and Joey that lacking a soul is what made the Ink Demon so monstrous, which they easily could have been and ''were'' wrong about, since the Ink Demon’s perfect form is still soulless. Additionally, the idea of a soul needing to ''match'' the ink creature is entirely fanon, and always was. (I mean, are you suggesting that Thomas Connor was a perfect match for Boris the wolf?) And Audrey is a totally unique being, so how did she even gain a soul; the Ink Machine cannot make them. This idea is jossed by Dark Revival unless you bend over backwards to claim that Allison and Henry have souls despite the game repeatedly saying they do not. And just claiming every piece of lore that goes against your idea is Joey lying is a stretch, especially since Henry himself corroborates not being the real Henry Stein. Having a soul or lacking a soul does not actually effect affect the resulting ink creature as much as anyone thought it would. In fact, many of the characters who ostensibly have souls are ''worse'' off than those that do. During the beginning of the game, Allison claims that Audrey got ''lucky'' having been created from the machine as a fully realized person rather than an inky mess, and taking all the current information into account, that’s the way it works. However perfect the resulting ink creature is when it’s made from the Ink Machine is completely up to ''luck''.




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* If they could cover up the deaths happening during their experiments, they’d definitely have the resources.

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** What exactly determines an ‘incorrect’ soul? That’s completely arbitrary—Susie was an Alice voice actress and she is imperfect. And Audrey is a totally unique being, so how did she even gain a soul; the Ink Machine cannot make them. This idea is jossed by Dark Revival unless you bend over backwards to claim that Allison and Henry have souls despite the game repeatedly saying they do not. And just claiming every piece of lore that goes against your idea is Joey lying is a reach, especially since Henry himself corroborates not being the real Henry Stein. Having a soul or lacking a soul does not actually effect the resulting ink creature as much as anyone thought it would.

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** What exactly determines an ‘incorrect’ soul? That’s completely arbitrary—Susie was an Alice voice actress and she is imperfect. In fact, this whole idea that a soul is needed was never actually established in game aside from one line from Thomas and Joey that lacking a soul is what made the Ink Demon so monstrous, which they easily could have been and ''were'' wrong about, since the Ink Demon’s perfect form is still soulless. Additionally, the idea of a soul needing to ''match'' the ink creature is entirely fanon, and always was. And Audrey is a totally unique being, so how did she even gain a soul; the Ink Machine cannot make them. This idea is jossed by Dark Revival unless you bend over backwards to claim that Allison and Henry have souls despite the game repeatedly saying they do not. And just claiming every piece of lore that goes against your idea is Joey lying is a reach, stretch, especially since Henry himself corroborates not being the real Henry Stein. Having a soul or lacking a soul does not actually effect the resulting ink creature as much as anyone thought it would.
would. In fact, many of the characters who ostensibly have souls are ''worse'' off than those that do. During the beginning of the game, Allison claims that Audrey got ''lucky'' having been created from the machine as a fully realized person rather than an inky mess, and taking all the current information into account, that’s the way it works. However perfect the resulting ink creature is when it’s made from the Ink Machine is completely up to ''luck''.
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** What exactly determines an ‘incorrect’ soul? That’s completely arbitrary—Susie was an Alice voice actress and she is imperfect. And Audrey is a totally unique being, so how did she even gain a soul; the Ink Machine cannot make them. This idea is jossed by Dark Revival unless you bend over backwards to claim that Allison and Henry have souls despite the game repeatedly saying they do not. And just claiming every piece of lore that goes against your idea is Joey lying is a reach, especially since Henry himself corroborates not being the real Henry Stein. Having a soul or lacking a soul does not actually effect the resulting ink creature as much as anyone thought it would.




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* If they don’t matter, why would the developer put them there? Details like that are added for a reason.

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* The implication throughout the series that an ink creation that's either soulless or has an "incorrect" soul will look flawed/monstrous lends credence to Cycle Henry, Allison and Audrey having real souls given their perfect appearances, in which case Cycle Joey could have a soul too (likely the real Joey's) since he looks perfect as well.


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[[WMG: Gent helped Joey cover up the murders of his employees]]
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** Maybe it just depends on the person, like how Sammy was seemingly the only one who got addicted to ink while everyone else affected by it feared/hated it.

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* But that doesn’t seem to have happened for literally any other human character in the series except him. Another possibility is that he’s spent some significant amount of time in the ink world, and time didn’t pass the same way on the outside due to the time loop, so he aged naturally (which never happened to Henry or Allison or anyone else because they’re made from the ink and probably can’t age or change just like a cartoon doesn’t age or change) and by the time he left, was physically much older than he was supposed to be.


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* This would line up with the image of her seen in Joey’s slideshow, who is clearly a young child in the slide where he described deciding to ''create'' her. Additionally, the failed Audrey heard at the end of the first game sounded around nine or ten, and the process of making her couldn’t have taken multiple years for each one simply due to the timeline of events. So Audrey being ‘born’ at around age nine or ten completely lines up.

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[[WMG: Audrey is ''much'' [[YoungerThanTheyLook younger than she looks]]]]
The fact she's naive enough to ''not'' immediately realize [[ObviouslyEvil Wilson]] is a bad guy is a little hard to believe if she's actually the age she appears to be. Additionally Ink Machine is (supposed to be) set in 1960,while Dark Revival is set in 1972,which unless it's simply a case of WritersCannotDoMath would seem to indicate the absolute ''oldest'' she could possibly be is 12. I speculate that after Joey's previous experiments attempting to create a [[ArtificialHuman human child]] using the Ink Machine, the one that was ultimately successful required the child to be BornAsAnAdult. While she's likely in her early-mid 20s ''physically'', it seems rather unlikely she could be more than 9 or 10 ''chronologically''. This would also explain why she seemingly doesn't remember anything about her father despite his death having occurred only a year ago.

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