History WMG / BeautyandtheBeast

4th Oct '17 11:10:41 PM Pamina
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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "odd" and "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that's seems strange for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.

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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "odd" and "dazed and distracted" distracted," and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills and person-to-person interaction to a degree that's that seems strange for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.
4th Oct '17 11:08:39 PM Pamina
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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that seems odd for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.

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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "odd" and "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that that's seems odd strange for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.
4th Oct '17 8:21:09 PM Pamina
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[[WMG: The curse breaks gradually over the course of the film as Belle and the Beast fall in love.]]
According to WordOfGod, the Beast's bestial mannerisms and lack of basic social skills at the beginning are because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his human mind.]] If the spell were still continuing its natural course throughout the film, then logically he should become more and more animalistic whether he wants to or not. But he doesn't; just the opposite. So maybe his re-learning to walk upright, wear decent clothes, eat with utensils, read, etc. isn't just a matter of effort for Belle's sake. Maybe as he and Belle bond, the spell increasingly loses its grip on his mind. This could also explain the castle's increasingly prettier, less gloomy appearance, even beyond the in-universe explanation of the servants cleaning and opening the curtains. Belle's verbal confession of love in the end is just the final straw needed to turn everyone's outward appearance - and the castle's - back to normal.
4th Oct '17 7:59:55 PM Pamina
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[[WMG: Belle and the Beast are both on the autism spectrum.]]
Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that seems odd for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.
4th Oct '17 7:45:32 PM Pamina
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[[WMG: Expanding on the above... The Beast is the son of Cinderella and her prince.]]
As per [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6301605/1/Fairytales this fanfic.]]
4th Oct '17 7:30:48 PM Pamina
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Contrary to fanon, he wasn't practicing "stranger danger"; he was surrounded by his servants, who could have watched the beggar woman and made sure she meant no harm if he had let her stay for the night. He shut out someone in need, intending to leave her outside in freezing cold weather that could have killed her, for no better reason than that she was ugly and in rags. If she hadn't cast the spell on him, he would have grown up into {{The Caligula}} and ruined the kingdom... or at least gotten himself killed through either assassination or revolution, in which case the Enchantress's spell can be viewed as {{Cruel To Be Kind}}.



There was a complaint in the JBM about the fact that Beast seems to have HUNDREDS of servants. However, only the characters like Lumière, Cogsworth and Mrs. Pots were people. The other things, such as the spoons and most of the cups, were always cups and spoons that the curse had animated. The footstool did not have a face and was not previously a person; it was a dog, which is not the same thing as a person. All moving pieces of furniture without faces were either animals or normal furniture before the curse, The enchanted silverware and the like could have very well been a provision by the enchantress for the type of scenario that happens in this film, to help the servants make a guest feel comfortable when they lack the dexterity and means to cater a guest by themselves.

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There was a complaint in the JBM about the fact that Beast seems to have HUNDREDS of servants. However, only the characters like Lumière, Cogsworth and Mrs. Pots Potts were people. The other things, such as the spoons and most of the cups, were always cups and spoons that the curse had animated. The footstool did not have a face and was not previously a person; it was a dog, which is not the same thing as a person. All moving pieces of furniture without faces were either animals or normal furniture before the curse, The enchanted silverware and the like could have very well been a provision by the enchantress for the type of scenario that happens in this film, to help the servants make a guest feel comfortable when they lack the dexterity and means to cater a guest by themselves.
4th Oct '17 7:19:39 PM Pamina
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** It's quite possible, considering that France has a history as a pretty anti-Semitic country (no more so than some parts of Europe we could name, but history and historical novels do mention this, and modern-day France has experienced quite a spate of anti-Semitism as well). In addition, Belle is highly educated, which is unusual for both her time period and her gender. But throughout history, education has remained extremely important to the Jewish people. It's quite possible Maurice was a benevolent [[EducationMama Education Papa]], which is how Belle got her love of reading.

On the other hand, the sequel does focus on Belle celebrating Christmas.

Additionally, if this theory were to be true, it would give the story a whole new layer. One could make the argument that parts of it serve as a CallBack to the story of Esther--a beautiful woman, yanked from her home (where she was raised by an older man who functioned as a single parent) to be the captive and queen of a hot-tempered ruler. In Belle's case, there is no Haman, per se, but Gaston functions somewhat in that role when he and the villagers try to kill the Beast/subdue and harm the servants. Regardless of the Haman issue, Belle still serves as an instrument of freedom just like Esther, and part of her reward is royal status.

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** * It's quite possible, considering that France has a history as a pretty anti-Semitic country (no more so than some parts of Europe we could name, but history and historical novels do mention this, and modern-day France has experienced quite a spate of anti-Semitism as well). In addition, Belle is highly educated, which is unusual for both her time period and her gender. But throughout history, education has remained extremely important to the Jewish people. It's quite possible Maurice was a benevolent [[EducationMama Education Papa]], which is how Belle got her love of reading. \n\n
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On the other hand, the sequel does focus on Belle celebrating Christmas.

Christmas. But since none of the original writers or directors were involved with the sequel, we can easily apply {{Fanon Discontinuity}}.
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Additionally, if this theory were to be true, it would give the story a whole new layer. One could make the argument that parts of it serve as a CallBack to the story of Esther--a beautiful woman, yanked from her home (where she was raised by an older man who functioned as a single parent) to be the captive and queen of a hot-tempered ruler. In Belle's case, there is no Haman, per se, but Gaston functions somewhat in that role when he and the villagers try to kill the Beast/subdue and harm the servants. Regardless of the Haman issue, Belle still serves as an instrument of freedom just like Esther, and part of her reward is royal status.
4th Oct '17 7:11:11 PM Pamina
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She put a forgetfulness clause in the curse. That's the only way to explain how everyone forgot about him and his castle: SunnydaleSyndrome.

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She put a forgetfulness clause in the curse. That's the only way to explain how everyone forgot about him and his castle: SunnydaleSyndrome. The [[Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017 live-action remake]] canonizes this one.
10th Sep '17 8:29:49 PM chloso
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[[WMG: The Enchantress cursing an 11-Year-Old Beast was [[RoyalBrat completely]] [[EnfantTerrible justified.]]]]
18th Jun '17 8:26:54 PM yugi195
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\n* Perhaps it's [[Disney/{{Tangled}} The Tales of Flynnigan Rider]].
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