History WMG / BeautyAndTheBeast

21st Jan '18 10:48:59 AM FT96
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30th Nov '17 1:59:08 AM LB7979
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* It's Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire. Westeros has lots of sword fights, lots of magic spells, and one, possibly two princes in disguise if you subscribe to a certain popular fan theory.
* It's ThePrincessBride. Far-off places? Check. Magic Spells? Eh, a miracle can count! Swordfights? Double check.

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* It's Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire.''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Westeros has lots of sword fights, lots of magic spells, and one, possibly two princes in disguise if you subscribe to a certain popular fan theory.
* It's ThePrincessBride.''Literature/ThePrincessBride''. Far-off places? Check. Magic Spells? Eh, a miracle can count! Swordfights? Double check.
30th Nov '17 1:54:33 AM LB7979
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[[WMG: The story Belle described is NOT "Beauty and the Beast"]]

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[[WMG: The story Belle described is NOT "Beauty ''Beauty and the Beast"]]Beast'']]



** She doesn't once describe ANYTHING pertaining to "Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast", original story or otherwise, except the magic spells and maybe the far-off places.

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** She doesn't once describe ANYTHING pertaining to "Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast", ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast'', original story or otherwise, except the magic spells and maybe the far-off places.



** The story for ''Sleeping Beauty'' starts off with "Once upon a time", whereas ''Beauty and the Beast'' doesn't. There are no swords in the story at all, but Phillip takes down Maleficent with a one-sided sword-fight. The magic spell is not just the curse, but the fairy gifts. The "prince in disguise" relates to how Phillip looks rather un-princely in his riding costume, and Aurora doesn't discover that he's a prince until much later (the third act).

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** The story for ''Sleeping Beauty'' starts off with "Once upon a time", whereas ''Beauty and the Beast'' doesn't. There are no swords in the story at all, but Phillip takes down Maleficent with a one-sided sword-fight. The magic spell is not just the curse, but also the fairy gifts. The "prince in disguise" relates to how Phillip looks rather un-princely in his riding costume, and Aurora doesn't discover that he's a prince until much later (the third act).



* It's Disney/{{Aladdin}}, which happens to be the next released move in the Disney animated canon and already was in the works at that point. Far-off places (the exotic East), daring sword fights, magic spells (the genie's powers, Jafar also used magic with his staff) a prince in disguise (poor boy who becomes a prince). And when Jasmine and "prince Ali" go on their date, it isn't until ''later'' that she realizes he's actually Aladdin (not a real prince at that point, but her prince charming) in disguise.

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* It's Disney/{{Aladdin}}, which happens to be the next released move movie in the Disney animated canon and already was in the works at that point. Far-off Far off places (the exotic East), daring sword fights, magic spells (the genie's powers, Jafar also used magic with his staff) a prince in disguise (poor boy who becomes a prince). And when Jasmine and "prince Ali" go on their date, it isn't until ''later'' that she realizes he's actually Aladdin (not a real prince at that point, but her prince charming) in disguise.



* Perhaps it's [[Disney/{{Tangled}} The Tales of Flynnigan Rider]]. To Rapunzel, going to the city of Corona feels like a far off place from her tower. Flynn and Maximus sword fight. Magic hair/flower. Mother Gothel "disguised" Rapunzel's identity as a princess from Rapunzel, and disguised princess Rapunzel from the rest of the world.

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* Perhaps it's [[Disney/{{Tangled}} The ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' or ''The Tales of Flynnigan Rider]].Rider'' from there. To Rapunzel, going to the city of Corona feels like a far off place from her tower. Flynn and Maximus sword fight. Magic hair/flower. Mother Gothel "disguised" Rapunzel's identity as a princess from Rapunzel, and disguised princess Rapunzel from the rest of the world.
30th Nov '17 1:48:04 AM LB7979
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* If anything, its ''Disney/SleepingBeauty''.
** She doesn't once describe ANYTHING pertaining to "Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast", original story or otherwise, except the magic spells and maybe the far-off places. She says:
"Far off places, daring swordfights, magic spells, a prince in disguise!" "Oh, isn't this amazing?/ It's my favorite part because you'll see/ here's where she meets prince charming/but she won't discover that it's him/'till chapter three."
** Firstly, the story for ''Sleeping Beauty'' starts off "Once upon a time", whereas "Beauty and the Beast" doesn't. Second, there are no swords in the story at all, but Phillip takes down Maleficent with a one-sided sword-fight. The magic spell is not just the curse, but the fairy gifts. The prince in disguise and the lyrics relates to how Phillip looks rather un-princely in his riding costume, and no, se doesn't discover that he's a prince until much later (which is the third act).
** The movie, when the lyrics are sung, show the almost exact scene where Aurora and Phillip meet and fall in love, about when Aurora stops avoiding him. Ergo, the story she describes is ''Sleeping Beauty''.
* It's Aladdin, which happens to be the next released move in the Disney canon and already in the works at that point.
** Far-off places (the exotic East), daring sword fights, magic spells, a prince in disguise (poor boy who becomes a prince).
* It's a Song of Ice and Fire!
** Westeros, lots of sword fights, lots of magic spells, and one, possibly two princes in disguise if you subscribe to a certain popular fan theory.
* It's [[Literature/ThePrincessBride The Princess Bride]]!
** Far-off places? Check. Magic Spells? Eh, a miracle can count! Swordfights? Double check.
* Perhaps it's [[Disney/{{Tangled}} The Tales of Flynnigan Rider]].

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* If anything, its It's ''Disney/SleepingBeauty''.
** She doesn't once describe ANYTHING pertaining to "Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast", original story or otherwise, except the magic spells and maybe the far-off places. She says:
"Far
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--->'''Belle:''' Far
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** Firstly, the The story for ''Sleeping Beauty'' starts off with "Once upon a time", whereas "Beauty ''Beauty and the Beast" Beast'' doesn't. Second, there There are no swords in the story at all, but Phillip takes down Maleficent with a one-sided sword-fight. The magic spell is not just the curse, but the fairy gifts. The prince "prince in disguise and the lyrics disguise" relates to how Phillip looks rather un-princely in his riding costume, and no, se Aurora doesn't discover that he's a prince until much later (which is the (the third act).
** The movie, when the lyrics are sung, show shows the almost exact scene where Aurora and Phillip meet and fall in love, about when Aurora stops avoiding him. Ergo, the story she describes is ''Sleeping Beauty''.
him.
* It's Aladdin, Disney/{{Aladdin}}, which happens to be the next released move in the Disney animated canon and already was in the works at that point.point. Far-off places (the exotic East), daring sword fights, magic spells (the genie's powers, Jafar also used magic with his staff) a prince in disguise (poor boy who becomes a prince). And when Jasmine and "prince Ali" go on their date, it isn't until ''later'' that she realizes he's actually Aladdin (not a real prince at that point, but her prince charming) in disguise.
** Far-off places (the exotic East), daring * It's Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire. Westeros has lots of sword fights, lots of magic spells, a prince and one, possibly two princes in disguise (poor boy who becomes if you subscribe to a prince).certain popular fan theory.
* It's a Song of Ice and Fire!
** Westeros, lots of sword fights, lots of magic spells, and one, possibly two princes in disguise if you subscribe to a certain popular fan theory.
* It's [[Literature/ThePrincessBride The Princess Bride]]!
**
ThePrincessBride. Far-off places? Check. Magic Spells? Eh, a miracle can count! Swordfights? Double check.
* Perhaps it's [[Disney/{{Tangled}} The Tales of Flynnigan Rider]].
Rider]]. To Rapunzel, going to the city of Corona feels like a far off place from her tower. Flynn and Maximus sword fight. Magic hair/flower. Mother Gothel "disguised" Rapunzel's identity as a princess from Rapunzel, and disguised princess Rapunzel from the rest of the world.
29th Nov '17 8:56:44 PM Sharlee
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** Alternately, he's missing a chip in teacup form because he'd just lost a prominent baby tooth before he transformed, so the "gap" in his smile migrated to his rim.
14th Nov '17 7:37:56 PM PaulA
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* It's [[ThePrincessBride The Princess Bride]]!

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* It's [[ThePrincessBride [[Literature/ThePrincessBride The Princess Bride]]!
4th Oct '17 11:10:41 PM Pamina
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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "odd" and "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that's seems strange for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.

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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "odd" and "dazed and distracted" distracted," and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills and person-to-person interaction to a degree that's that seems strange for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.
4th Oct '17 11:08:39 PM Pamina
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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that seems odd for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.

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Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "odd" and "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that that's seems odd strange for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.
4th Oct '17 8:21:09 PM Pamina
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[[WMG: The curse breaks gradually over the course of the film as Belle and the Beast fall in love.]]
According to WordOfGod, the Beast's bestial mannerisms and lack of basic social skills at the beginning are because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his human mind.]] If the spell were still continuing its natural course throughout the film, then logically he should become more and more animalistic whether he wants to or not. But he doesn't; just the opposite. So maybe his re-learning to walk upright, wear decent clothes, eat with utensils, read, etc. isn't just a matter of effort for Belle's sake. Maybe as he and Belle bond, the spell increasingly loses its grip on his mind. This could also explain the castle's increasingly prettier, less gloomy appearance, even beyond the in-universe explanation of the servants cleaning and opening the curtains. Belle's verbal confession of love in the end is just the final straw needed to turn everyone's outward appearance - and the castle's - back to normal.
4th Oct '17 7:59:55 PM Pamina
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[[WMG: Belle and the Beast are both on the autism spectrum.]]
Belle is a highly intelligent yet introverted bookworm who wants friends but has none, whose neighbors consider her "dazed and distracted" and whose hyper-focused passion for books none of them can relate to. The Beast struggles with basic social skills to a degree that seems odd for a prince, even one who's lived in isolation for years (of course, WordOfGod says that's because [[TheMindIsAPlaythingOfTheBody the spell is slowly destroying his sentient mind]], but the actual film never states as much), and his roaring, furniture-smashing rages bear more than a little resemblance to extreme ASD meltdowns. Of course neither has been diagnosed, since they live in too early a time period, but they would be if they lived today.
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