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** According to Wikipedia, there are actors cast as volcano-dwelling "ash-people" so... [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender fire nation]]?
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** Producer Jon Landau has said the fourth movie will focus on Earth instead of Pandora. Sooo....
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** According to Wikipedia, there are actors cast as volcano-dwelling "ash-people" so... [[AvatarTheLastAirbender [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender fire nation]]?
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* Confirmed. Quaritch is now a Recom, an Avatar implanted with a brain scan of his human mind.
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* Confirmed. Quaritch is now a Recom, an Avatar implanted with a brain scan of his human mind.
mind. Although the scan was taken before he left for the mission.
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[[WMG: Cameron will go full GRRM]]
The pattern is established: protagonist deaths are required in every movie (Grace in #1 and [[spoiler:Neteyam in #2]]. So Jake will die in #3, Lo'ak will take over the family leadership but he and Neytiri will die in #4 (Neytiri will come back from the grave as a vengeance-seeking monster), the younger kids will be scattered, Kiri will become Pandora's Three Eyed Raven, Tuk will become an assassin. Spider will become Reek. This is why Cameron introduced so many kids in #2, so he could kill some of them off for dramatic impact.
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[[WMG: Spider will pull a full FaceHeelTurn]]
Once it's revealed he saved Quaritch Neytiri will insist that he be expelled from the family, and he'll have no one to turn to but Quaritch.
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* First part Jossed, Quaritch loves his new body because it's better than a human body, he's so comfortable he even says at the end that he's not even the same species as his human son, spider.
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Because, let's face it, what better than to show off their antagonistic side?
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Because, let's face it, what better than to show off their antagonistic side? Native North Americans served as inspiration for the Omaticaya, and Polynesians for the Metkayina, now it's Mesoamerican cultures' turn.
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[[WMG: The Ash People will be a {{Mayincatec}} tribe of Na'vi]]
Because, let's face it, what better than to show off their antagonistic side?
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[[WMG: Kiri will pull a HeroicSacrifice at some point and come back in some form.]]
So the Christ parallels go to their logical conclusion.
So the Christ parallels go to their logical conclusion.
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First is simply getting there: each ISV can carry maybe a few hundred people in cryo-sleep, and the round trip takes some fourteen years. The size of the fleet needed to carry even a fraction of humanity's billions in a somewhat timely would be ''staggering''. Also, let's not forget that infants cannot be put into cryo, which would automatically exclude a whole lot of families.
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First is simply getting there: each ISV can carry maybe a few hundred people in cryo-sleep, and the round trip takes some fourteen years. The size of the fleet needed to carry even a fraction of humanity's billions in a somewhat timely manner would be ''staggering''. Also, let's not forget that infants cannot be put into cryo, which would automatically exclude a whole lot of families.
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Jake ready showed mercy by exiling the RDA personnel back to Earth the first time around despite them being largely military forces and administrators. Now with a permanent colony being established the matter of human civilians, families of staff, workers, and colonists unaware of the atrocities RDA is committing. The Na'vi at large won't draw distinctions between these relative innocents and the soldiers burning their homes where as Jake will.
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Jake ready already showed mercy by exiling the RDA personnel back to Earth the first time around despite them being largely military forces and administrators. Now with a permanent colony being established the matter of human civilians, families of staff, workers, and colonists unaware of the atrocities RDA is committing. The Na'vi at large won't draw distinctions between these relative innocents and the soldiers burning their homes where as Jake will.
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[WMG: Future films will see conflict between Jake's family and the other Na'vi over what to do with human civilians.]]
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Jake ready showed mercy by exiling the RDA personnel back to Earth the first time around despite them being largely military forces and administrators. Now with a permanent colony being established the matter of human civilians, families of staff, workers, and colonists unaware of the atrocities RDA is committing. The Na'vi at large won't draw distinctions between these relative innocents and the soldiers burning their homes where as Jake will.
Jake ready showed mercy by exiling the RDA personnel back to Earth the first time around despite them being largely military forces and administrators. Now with a permanent colony being established the matter of human civilians, families of staff, workers, and colonists unaware of the atrocities RDA is committing. The Na'vi at large won't draw distinctions between these relative innocents and the soldiers burning their homes where as Jake will.
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[[WMG: The influence of Grace means Eywa doesn't actually have a problem with humanity. Just the RDA.]]
Eywa is a planet sized brain with multiple examples of different humans to draw from who've taken the form of her children. Their perspective and positive traits as well as the recognition that Earth lacks an equivalent to itself will prompt a reevaluation of the situation. Pandora won't blanket reject humans as a result, just those who can't or won't treat her and her children with respect.
Eywa is a planet sized brain with multiple examples of different humans to draw from who've taken the form of her children. Their perspective and positive traits as well as the recognition that Earth lacks an equivalent to itself will prompt a reevaluation of the situation. Pandora won't blanket reject humans as a result, just those who can't or won't treat her and her children with respect.
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* Specifically reinforcements for the scientist side growing out of other disillusioned scientists and civilian workers being shipped in. The front RDA presents will crumble as more people become aware of their atrocities.
* And we'll see the opposite. More Na'vi displaying bigotry toward Jake's kids as tome goes on due to the pressure RDA places. The films will end up highlighting that neither side is entirely morally bankrupt or morally pure.
* And we'll see the opposite. More Na'vi displaying bigotry toward Jake's kids as tome goes on due to the pressure RDA places. The films will end up highlighting that neither side is entirely morally bankrupt or morally pure.
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[[WMG: We'll see more good humans in the sequels.]]
To add a little more variety into the morality of the series.
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** Additionally, Quaritch being stuck as a Recom Na'vi would eventually subject him to racism from his own human comrades. Eventually, Quaritch would begin to wonder what his fate would be ''after'' he completes his mission of killing Sully. Would he be awarded for his services to humanity? Or would the [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness RDA dispose of him after his usefulness has come to end]], seeing him as a literal tool rather than human being?
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The good colonel just got a lot of very profitable assets and all his recombinants (save Lyle) killed on his little vendetta. He is going to face consequences since Ardmore doesn't look the type to let him walk over her like Selfridge, such as stripping him of command or confining him to Bridgehead. Quaritch won't take it laying down however, and his own mutiny against the RDA will drive the human side of the plot.
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The good colonel just got a lot of very profitable assets and all his recombinants (save Lyle) killed AND radicalized a whole archipelago of locals who would have otherwise remained neutral on his little vendetta. He is going needs to face consequences since Ardmore doesn't look the type to let him walk over her like Selfridge, such as stripping him of command or confining him to Bridgehead. Quaritch won't take it laying down however, and his own mutiny against the RDA will drive the human side of the plot.
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[[WMG: The next films will throw out the "Humanity is dependent on Pandora" angle]]
Earth may be dying, but humanity isn't. With the resources and ability to send antimatter powered spaceships to another solar system, humanity will be revealed to have also taken the easier route and expand their civilization to Earth's orbit and the solar system, with the RDA just pushing the frontier.
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[[WMG: Scoresby's coming back along with Garvin.]]
And he's going to be sporting a spiffy robot arm.
And he's going to be sporting a spiffy robot arm.
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[[WMG: Quaritch is going to go rogue in the next movie.]]
The good colonel just got a lot of very profitable assets and all his recombinants (save Lyle) killed on his little vendetta. He is going to face consequences since Ardmore doesn't look the type to let him walk over her like Selfridge, such as stripping him of command or confining him to Bridgehead. Quaritch won't take it laying down however, and his own mutiny against the RDA will drive the human side of the plot.
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[[WMG: As a nod towards the whole mix-up with ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', there will be sequels involving the theme of Earth and Fire.]]
Air and Water have been covered so far in a sense, so there may be interquels, sequels, side stories, etc. that cover Earth and Fire in a sense.
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[[WMG: As a nod towards the whole mix-up with ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', there will be sequels involving the theme of Earth and Fire.]]
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* The RDA might not even be that generous - like several other corporate dystopias, Bridgehead could be a bolthole for the executive officers as they flee to Pandora and leave Earth (and the rest of their less-privileged employees) to die. Obviously the base personnel can pick a few extra loved ones to come along, otherwise they'd mutiny.
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[[WMG: The RDA has no intention of saving (most) of humanity with their Pandoran colony; they simply mean to make the mother of all [[CompanyTown Company Towns]].]]
Leaving aside the difficult matter of neutralizing Pandora's wildlife and native resistance, a mass evacuation of humanity to this new world has some massive logistical difficulties, which the RDA's executives are probably entirely aware of.
First is simply getting there: each ISV can carry maybe a few hundred people in cryo-sleep, and the round trip takes some fourteen years. The size of the fleet needed to carry even a fraction of humanity's billions in a somewhat timely would be ''staggering''. Also, let's not forget that infants cannot be put into cryo, which would automatically exclude a whole lot of families.
Even overcoming the above, there's also Pandora's atmosphere to contend with. Short of somehow scrubbing an entire atmosphere's worth of carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide, humanity will always have to live in sealed habitats or wear masks on Pandora - and if such terraforming tech existed, surely it would already have been used to cleanse Earth's atmosphere, instead.
It therefore seems likely that the RDA's ''actual'' interest stems from the power they can derive from their monopoly over it. Unlike in the Solar System, where they presumably have governments and competing [[MegaCorp Mega Corps]] to deal with, the RDA is the sole authority on this supposed new home for humanity, and that means ''money''. The happy few who obtain tickets for the crossing - no doubt paying a premium for the privilege - will fly to Pandora on RDA ships, live in RDA-built compounds, wear RDA-manufactured masks outside, eat RDA-produced human-safe food, and be protected (and policed) by the RDA's SEC-OPS. And all the while, the corporation gets to look good for guiding humanity away from their doomed home and towards this lush new world.
Leaving aside the difficult matter of neutralizing Pandora's wildlife and native resistance, a mass evacuation of humanity to this new world has some massive logistical difficulties, which the RDA's executives are probably entirely aware of.
First is simply getting there: each ISV can carry maybe a few hundred people in cryo-sleep, and the round trip takes some fourteen years. The size of the fleet needed to carry even a fraction of humanity's billions in a somewhat timely would be ''staggering''. Also, let's not forget that infants cannot be put into cryo, which would automatically exclude a whole lot of families.
Even overcoming the above, there's also Pandora's atmosphere to contend with. Short of somehow scrubbing an entire atmosphere's worth of carbon dioxide and hydrogen sulfide, humanity will always have to live in sealed habitats or wear masks on Pandora - and if such terraforming tech existed, surely it would already have been used to cleanse Earth's atmosphere, instead.
It therefore seems likely that the RDA's ''actual'' interest stems from the power they can derive from their monopoly over it. Unlike in the Solar System, where they presumably have governments and competing [[MegaCorp Mega Corps]] to deal with, the RDA is the sole authority on this supposed new home for humanity, and that means ''money''. The happy few who obtain tickets for the crossing - no doubt paying a premium for the privilege - will fly to Pandora on RDA ships, live in RDA-built compounds, wear RDA-manufactured masks outside, eat RDA-produced human-safe food, and be protected (and policed) by the RDA's SEC-OPS. And all the while, the corporation gets to look good for guiding humanity away from their doomed home and towards this lush new world.
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[[WMG: The sequel’s conflict will focus on the RDA trying to terraform Pandora.]]
The RDA will try to terraform Pandora to be more hospitable for humans since they can’t breathe the natural atmospheric air. But doing so comes at the cost of killing all native life on the world including Eywa.
The RDA will try to terraform Pandora to be more hospitable for humans since they can’t breathe the natural atmospheric air. But doing so comes at the cost of killing all native life on the world including Eywa.
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[[WMG: Eywa, inspired by the Avatar Project, made created Kiri to be her Avatar.]]
