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** Evelyn never actually cares about Bateman beyond wanting him to propose because she is merely using him for status the exact same way he does to her. after Bateman dumps her, she appears to cry... only to wipe her tears hastily and look around the restaurant for others' reactions, implying that [[CrocodileTears they aren't sincere]].

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** Evelyn never actually cares about Bateman beyond wanting him to propose because she is merely using him for status the exact same way he does to her. after After Bateman dumps her, she appears to cry... only to wipe her tears hastily and look around the restaurant for others' reactions, implying that [[CrocodileTears they aren't sincere]].

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[[WMG: Bateman's coworkers all ''know'' that he is just a delusional who just thinks he is a serial killer.]]

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[[WMG: Bateman's coworkers all ''know'' that he is just a delusional sad sack who just merely thinks he is a serial killer.]]



A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is *also* a violent serial killer with a double-digit bodycount.

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A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is *also* a violent serial killer with a double-digit bodycount.
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[[WMG: All of Bateman's coworkers and his girlfriend all tell similar internal monologues to Bateman himself, its just that the movie is merely from the perspective of one asshole out of a community of them.]]

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[[WMG: All of Bateman's coworkers and his girlfriend all tell similar internal monologues to Bateman himself, its it's just that the movie is merely from the perspective of one asshole out of a community of them.]]



** Evelyn never actually cares about Bateman beyond wanting him to propose because she is merely using him for status the exact same way he does to her. after Bateman dumps her, she appears to cry... only to wipe her tears hastily and look around the restaurant for others' reactions, [[CrocodileTears showing how they aren't sincere.]]

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** Evelyn never actually cares about Bateman beyond wanting him to propose because she is merely using him for status the exact same way he does to her. after Bateman dumps her, she appears to cry... only to wipe her tears hastily and look around the restaurant for others' reactions, implying that [[CrocodileTears showing how they aren't sincere.]]sincere]].

[[WMG: Marcus Halberstam is everything Patrick Bateman pretends to be]]
Whether Patrick is making a deliberate attempt to imitate him or not, Marcus is similar to the façade Patrick puts on... only for him, it's not a façade. Marcus is ''genuinely'' nice, ''genuinely'' refined, and ''genuinely'' happy with himself, his life, and who he is. The main reason Patrick is implied to hold him in disdain is because he's jealous that Marcus has the kind of emotional fulfillment that he can only dream of.
* Another possibility (one that might overlap with this one) is that Marcus is the polar opposite of Patrick, with Patrick possibly being too shallow, self-absorbed and superficial to look past the surface-level similarities. It would add a layer of irony to Paul constantly getting the two of them confused.
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*** ...No. The NYPD might not exactly be free of corruption (especially in the 80s) but even a couple million dollars in the pockets of a few high-ranking people isn't going to stop an entire American police department from pursuing a cop killer, unless maybe the killer was another cop with more seniority. Even if every person of authority could be bribed to not pursue the case, the dead cop would have a lot of friends in the department who would want to go after the killer.

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* Bateman killed a police officer. Ain't no way in hell the NYPD are gonna let that slide. I doubt all the money in the world could've saved him...then again, that's assuming the shootout happened as show on screen.
** Unless the NYPD receives some huge bribe money as a means of shutting them up. At the end of the day, it's about the money.
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* Bateman killed a police officer. Ain't no way in hell the NYPD are gonna let that slide. I doubt all the money in the world could've saved him...then again, that's assuming the shootout happened as show on screen.
** Unless the NYPD receives some huge bribe money as a means of shutting them up. At the end of the day, it's about the money.

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* Bateman killed a police officer. Ain't no way in hell the NYPD are gonna let that slide. I doubt all the money in the world could've saved him...then again, that's assuming the shootout happened as show on screen.
** Unless the NYPD receives some huge bribe money as a means of shutting them up. At the end of the day, it's about the money.
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*** That might work with the chief (though it's a very big might). But see, I doubt the rank and file cops are going to appreciate the guy who murdered their fellow officer getting off. And given that CopKillers aren't exactly treated well IRL...who's to say Bateman didn't have an unfortunate "accident" before the hush money came through.

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*** That might work with the chief (though it's a very big might). But see, I doubt the rank and file cops are going to appreciate the guy who murdered their fellow officer getting off. And given that CopKillers aren't exactly treated well IRL...who's to say Bateman didn't have an unfortunate "accident" before the hush money came through.
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*** That might work with the chief (though it's a very big might). But see, I doubt the rank and file cops are going to appreciate the guy who murdered their fellow officer getting off. And given that CopKillers aren't exactly treated well IRL...who's to say Bateman didn't have an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident/'accident']] in his cell before the hush money came through. Such a shame

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*** That might work with the chief (though it's a very big might). But see, I doubt the rank and file cops are going to appreciate the guy who murdered their fellow officer getting off. And given that CopKillers aren't exactly treated well IRL...who's to say Bateman didn't have an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident/'accident']] in his cell unfortunate "accident" before the hush money came through. Such a shame
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*** That might work with the chief (though it's a very big might). But see, I doubt the rank and file cops are going to appreciate the guy who murdered their fellow officer getting off. And given that CopKillers aren't exactly treated well IRL...who's to say Bateman didn't have an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident/'accident']] in his cell before the hush money came through. Such a shame

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[[WMG: All of Bateman's coworkers, acquaintances, and "loved" ones all have similar internal monologues to Bateman himself, and the movie is merely from the perspective of one asshole out of a community of them.]]
* Given the story's critique of yuppie culture, it would make sense that Bateman isn't actually special in his evil desires and that every other character in his environment is equally as self-serving, vapid and awful as he is. Bateman hasn't actually killed anyone, and his violent fantasies are not unique to him; ''every'' yuppie is also like this, but everyone involved is too self-absorbed to recognize that those around them are merely acting out a script of perceived normalcy. The violent fantasies aren't even due to any inherent evil, [[AndIMustScream but out of the sheer boredom and madness of being stuck in a performative, empty lifestyle surrounded by no one but other self-serving assholes.]]

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[[WMG: All of Bateman's coworkers, acquaintances, coworkers and "loved" ones his girlfriend all have tell similar internal monologues to Bateman himself, and its just that the movie is merely from the perspective of one asshole out of a community of them.]]
* Given the story's critique of yuppie culture, it would make sense that Bateman isn't actually special in his evil desires and that every other character in his environment is equally as self-serving, vapid and awful as he is. Bateman hasn't actually killed anyone, and his violent fantasies are not unique to him; ''every'' yuppie is also like this, but everyone involved is too self-absorbed to recognize that those around them are merely acting out a script of perceived normalcy. The violent fantasies aren't even due to any inherent evil, [[AndIMustScream but out of the sheer boredom and madness of being stuck in a performative, empty lifestyle surrounded by no one but other self-serving assholes.]]
** None of Bateman's coworkers are shown to have different priorities to Bateman that aren't performative acts of their status, and they often indulge in the same ridiculous displays of such status, like comparing business card colors. Who else would indulge Bateman in something so banal but a group of ''other'' Batemans?
** Evelyn never actually cares about Bateman beyond wanting him to propose because she is merely using him for status the exact same way he does to her. after Bateman dumps her, she appears to cry... only to wipe her tears hastily and look around the restaurant for others' reactions, [[CrocodileTears showing how they aren't sincere.
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----[[WMG: All of Bateman's coworkers, acquaintances, and "loved" ones all have similar internal monologues to Bateman himself, and the movie is merely from the perspective of one asshole out of a community of them.]]
* Given the story's critique of yuppie culture, it would make sense that Bateman isn't actually special in his evil desires and that every other character in his environment is equally as self-serving, vapid and awful as he is. Bateman hasn't actually killed anyone, and his violent fantasies are not unique to him; ''every'' yuppie is also like this, but everyone involved is too self-absorbed to recognize that those around them are merely acting out a script of perceived normalcy. The violent fantasies aren't even due to any inherent evil, [[AndIMustScream but out of the sheer boredom and madness of being stuck in a performative, empty lifestyle surrounded by no one but other self-serving assholes.]]
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** Unless the NYPD receives some huge bribe money as a means of shutting them up. At the end of the day, it's about the money.
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*Bateman killed a police officer. Ain't no way in hell the NYPD are gonna let that slide. I doubt all the money in the world could've saved him...then again, that's assuming the shootout happened as show on screen.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance Or]], It's a subtle nod to his obsession with social status. It's more important to him that people know where he lives, then what his name is.

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** [[FridgeBrilliance Or]], It's a subtle nod to his obsession with social status. It's more important to him that people know where he lives, then lives than what his name is.
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Think about it. He's unnoticed, easily forgotten and even when it would be in one's best interest to pay attention, nobody ever does. This is the exact effect that a perception filter gives you. You might want to focus on what it is on, but you just can't. Your mind will ignore it against its will. This has been proven with the TARDIS, Torchwood's elevator and with TARDIS Key necklaces. Due to some unnatural reason, Patrick Bateman was born wKith one that instinctively turns on when it's needed. This is what allows him to confess to crimes, make outrageous amounts of noise and not bother anyone and do things that would normally draw attention.

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Think about it. He's unnoticed, easily forgotten and even when it would be in one's best interest to pay attention, nobody ever does. This is the exact effect that a perception filter gives you. You might want to focus on what it is on, but you just can't. Your mind will ignore it against its will. This has been proven with the TARDIS, Torchwood's elevator and with TARDIS Key necklaces. Due to some unnatural reason, Patrick Bateman was born wKith with one that instinctively turns on when it's needed. This is what allows him to confess to crimes, make outrageous amounts of noise and not bother anyone and do things that would normally draw attention.
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Think about it. He's unnoticed, easily forgotten and even when it would be in one's best interest to pay attention, nobody ever does. This is the exact effect that a perception filter gives you. You might want to focus on what it is on, but you just can't. Your mind will ignore it against it's will. This has been proven with the TARDIS, Torchwood's elevator and with TARDIS Key necklaces. Due to some unnatural reason, Patrick Bateman was born wKith one that instinctively turns on when it's needed. This is what allows him to confess to crimes, make outrageous amounts of noise and not bother anyone and do things that would normally draw attention.

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Think about it. He's unnoticed, easily forgotten and even when it would be in one's best interest to pay attention, nobody ever does. This is the exact effect that a perception filter gives you. You might want to focus on what it is on, but you just can't. Your mind will ignore it against it's its will. This has been proven with the TARDIS, Torchwood's elevator and with TARDIS Key necklaces. Due to some unnatural reason, Patrick Bateman was born wKith one that instinctively turns on when it's needed. This is what allows him to confess to crimes, make outrageous amounts of noise and not bother anyone and do things that would normally draw attention.

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[[WMG: [[DefectorFromDecadence Timothy Price]] committed suicide]]
The nature of the novel means that all characters are interchangeable. Patrick Bateman is unique only in his mental illness. A more on-the-level character may deal with the exact same "feelings" of emptiness and nihilism in a completely different manner: suicide. Timothy Price is presented as something of an OnlySaneMan at the beginning of the novel, storming off and ditching the yuppie lifestyle, only to seemingly have learned nothing when he re-enters near the end. So, tying into the interchangeability of the characters, it is entirely possible that the Timothy Price seen exiting the novel at the beginning is not the same one that re-enters the narrative at the end. The Timothy Price who stormed out of the tunnel killed himself. The Timothy Price that enters the novel is someone else, and Patrick is mistaking them for him. The only characters who Bateman does not see as interchangeable and thus killable are the ones that treat him like a human (Jean, Evelyn, Luis), and Price doesn't really fit that description. By that point, Bateman is so far gone that the person who was once the only person in his circle of friends who seemed a little bit interesting is just another rich yuppie.

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[[WMG: [[DefectorFromDecadence Timothy Price]] committed suicide]]
suicide, or considered it only to come to the same conclusion as [[StrawNihilist Patrick Bateman]]]]
The nature of the novel means that all characters are interchangeable. Patrick Bateman is unique only in his mental illness. A more on-the-level character may deal with the exact same "feelings" of emptiness and nihilism in a completely different manner: suicide. Timothy Price is presented as something of an OnlySaneMan at the beginning of the novel, storming off and ditching the yuppie lifestyle, only to seemingly have learned nothing when he re-enters near the end.
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So, tying into the interchangeability of the characters, it is entirely possible that the Timothy Price seen exiting the novel at the beginning is not the same one that re-enters the narrative at the end. The Timothy Price who stormed out of the tunnel killed himself. The Timothy Price that enters the novel is someone else, and Patrick is mistaking them for him. The only characters who Bateman does not see as interchangeable and thus killable are the ones that treat him like a human (Jean, Evelyn, Luis), and Price doesn't really fit that description. By that point, Bateman is so far gone that the person who was once the only person in his circle of friends who seemed a little bit interesting is just another rich yuppie.
* Alternatively, the Timothy Price that re-enters the novel at the end is the same one as the Timothy Price at the beginning, but only returns upon coming to the same conclusion that Patrick does about the world he lives in. Like Patrick's murders being unable to affect the world around him, committing suicide would be pointless because his absence would not be noticed.
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[[WMG: [[DefectorFromDecadence Timothy Price]] committed suicide]]
The nature of the novel means that all characters are interchangeable. Patrick Bateman is unique only in his mental illness. A more on-the-level character may deal with the exact same "feelings" of emptiness and nihilism in a completely different manner: suicide. Timothy Price is presented as something of an OnlySaneMan at the beginning of the novel, storming off and ditching the yuppie lifestyle, only to seemingly have learned nothing when he re-enters near the end. So, tying into the interchangeability of the characters, it is entirely possible that the Timothy Price seen exiting the novel at the beginning is not the same one that re-enters the narrative at the end. The Timothy Price who stormed out of the tunnel killed himself. The Timothy Price that enters the novel is someone else, and Patrick is mistaking them for him. The only characters who Bateman does not see as interchangeable and thus killable are the ones that treat him like a human (Jean, Evelyn, Luis), and Price doesn't really fit that description. By that point, Bateman is so far gone that the person who was once the only person in his circle of friends who seemed a little bit interesting is just another rich yuppie.
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Basically Bateman rents out a lot of drama and horror but is so detached from reality that he thinks all of these events are real and he is responsible for them. He also imagines the victims in the tapes as his personal enemies so it is also his personal satisfaction that he believes he did it if not an outright fetish.

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Basically Bateman rents out a lot of drama and horror but is so detached from reality that he thinks all of these events are real and he is responsible for them. He also imagines the victims in the tapes as his personal enemies so it is also his personal satisfaction that he believes he did it if not an outright fetish. Also one of the tapes had an unrealistic explosion caused by just shooting a police car which is why Bateman is wondering how it exploded.
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[[WMG:The murders happened on the video tapes Bateman has to return.]]
Basically Bateman rents out a lot of drama and horror but is so detached from reality that he thinks all of these events are real and he is responsible for them. He also imagines the victims in the tapes as his personal enemies so it is also his personal satisfaction that he believes he did it if not an outright fetish.
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A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is *also* a violent serial killer with a double-digit bodycount. Patrick is just the only one who breaks kayfabe.

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A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is *also* a violent serial killer with a double-digit bodycount. Patrick is just the only one who breaks kayfabe.
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A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is also a violent serial killer.

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A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is also *also* a violent serial killer.
killer with a double-digit bodycount. Patrick is just the only one who breaks kayfabe.
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[[WMG: Bateman's coworkers and social circle are just as bad as he is]]

A lot of the satire comes from the fact that all these men all share the same callousness, the same consumerist superficiality, and are pretty much interchangeable and they're basically all self-centered sociopath. The reason nobody bats an eye at Patrick's confessions is that everyone else around him is also a violent serial killer.
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[[WMG: Patrick Bateman is an allegory of the Devil/Seven Deadly Sins]]
To build off the above theories about Bateman being in Hell, one could go a step beyond and claim that Patrick Bateman is the Devil himself, an allegory of him and/or the Seven Deadly Sins.

Throughout the plot, Patrick shows traits of all seven sins:

* '''Sloth''': Patrick has a very cushy, very well-paying job at Wall Street, but never seems to actually ''do'' anything, even in business meetings he and his 'friends' are talking about men's fashion or comparing business cards, and he lazes about in his office instead of doing his job.

* '''Gluttony''': Rather than quantity, Patrick's Gluttony is about quality. Patrick, like many of his Yuppie friends, is obsessed with eating in the most expensive restaurant possible, purely for the status symbol of what it entails. On top of that, he's also a cannibal, for no other reason other than he wants to eat human flesh.

* '''Greed''': Patrick is an extremely greedy man, always wanting the best, most expensive things possible, and what happens when he can't have those things leads to...

* '''Envy''': A lot of Patrick's motivations come from pure, unadulturated envy. The reason why he so deeply prepared Paul's murder and went through with it? Purely because he had a better looking business card than him and claimed to being able to get reservations to an exclusive restaurant. When he disposes of his body and enters his apartment, he panics...because he sees that Paul's apartment is more expensive than his.

* '''Wrath''': It can take very little to set Patrick off, a good chunk of his murders are made against people who slighted him in extremely mundane, minute things.

* '''Lust''': Patrick is an avid porn watcher, and has extreme fetishes on top of that. Lust is sex without love, and Patrick feels no love for ''anyone'', all sex is to him is a show of power and a self-affirmation of his worth. His murders of women are not based in either envy or wrath...but just to satisfy his bloodlust.

* '''Pride''': Above all else, Patrick is a narcissistic sociopath, obsessed on how he's seen by others: his greed, envy and gluttony are almost exclusively based around his overwhelming pride ([[InferioritySuperiorityComplex or lack of]]), he hates "lesser" people like Homosexuals (after he's MistakenForGay by Louis and he kisses his hand, he immediately goes to wash it) or the homeless (he mocks a homeless man before murdering him) because he feels superior to them due to his wealth and status. Unfortunately, there's always someone wealthier, more fashionable or more attractive than him; he so desperately wants to be at the top of the pyramid, but he never quite reaches it.

This all goes hand-in-hand with the Hell theory. If one considers Patrick Bateman as a Satanic allegory, then his punishment is the greatest one of all: he's given a place where he can indulge in all the sins in the world, in all the depravity he wants, and get away with everything...but he never truly feels satisfied, he never experiences catharsis. All he feels is sharp and unending pain, a pain he wants to share with the rest of the world. He's the most evil human possible, and yet nobody really cares about him, he can't even find catharsis in being recognized as evil.

He's the ruler of Hell, but all it entails is unending pain.

And as the sign behind him says:

"[[AndIMustScream This Is Not An Exit]]".
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At least not purpose. He was fully willing to "nail" her, but the nail gun itself wasn't ready to fire. When Bateman realizes that reality won't let him perform the fantasy of murdering someone with a nail gun, he had to abruptly and coldly end the date because his entire murder plan was in vain.

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At least not purpose. He was fully willing to "nail" her, but the nail gun itself wasn't ready to fire.fire [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome because it wasn't connected to the compressor]]. When Bateman realizes that reality won't let him perform the fantasy of murdering someone with a nail gun, he had to abruptly and coldly end the date because his entire murder plan was in vain.
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[[WMG: Patrick does not actually spare Jean.]]

At least not purpose. He was fully willing to "nail" her, but the nail gun itself wasn't ready to fire. When Bateman realizes that reality won't let him perform the fantasy of murdering someone with a nail gun, he had to abruptly and coldly end the date because his entire murder plan was in vain.
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[[WMG: The movie ''The Last Days of Disco'' takes place in the same reality of ''American Psycho''.]]
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[[WMG: The Patrick Bateman in the story isn't the real Patrick Bateman.]]
The Patrick Bateman telling the story isn't the real Patrick Bateman, but is someone who works with the real Patrick, imagining his life and routine, and the violent urges that "Patrick" has is really his projection of his own needs of violence. Much like how people see Patrick "as a wimp/dork," is a projection of his own inadequacies onto what he considers. It certainly would put "there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman" into a new perspective.
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[[WMG: Patrick Bateman is SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}]]

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