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29th Jun '17 7:06:17 PM CB2001
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*** To be fair, [[spoiler: Veronica Cartwright stated on the audio commentary of the film that the original version of events in the film was that after Parker was killed by the alien, Ripley finds Lambert in the same locker that she, Parker and Brett found Jonesy The Cat in earlier in the film. She explained that she didn't even know that her character was 'raped' by the Alien until she saw it at the premiere. The leg you see the tail wrap around in the theatrical cut and the director's cut is actually Brett's leg from the earlier scene when he is attacked by the Alien (Lambert wears cowboy boots throughout her time in the film and the leg you see is wearing low-cut white Chuck Taylors like Brett is wearing). Also, in a cut version of the scene with Ash's head on the table originally had dialogue where Ash actually accuses the crew of not making an attempt to try to communicate with it. The scene was reshot due to Scott not liking how the android insides looked, and the dialogue was re-written).]] So, it is within plausibility that it originally was meant to come off as such.

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*** To be fair, [[spoiler: Veronica Cartwright stated on the audio commentary of the film that the original version of events in the film was that after Parker was killed by the alien, Ripley finds Lambert in the same locker that she, Parker and Brett found Jonesy The Cat in earlier in the film.film, having died from fright after escaping from the alien and hiding. She explained that she didn't even know that her character was 'raped' by the Alien until she saw it at the premiere. The leg you see the tail wrap around in the theatrical cut and the director's cut is actually Brett's leg from the earlier scene when he is attacked by the Alien (Lambert wears cowboy boots throughout her time in the film and the leg you see is wearing low-cut white Chuck Taylors like Brett is wearing). Also, in a cut version of the scene with Ash's head on the table originally had dialogue where Ash actually accuses the crew of not making an attempt to try to communicate with it. The scene was reshot due to Scott not liking how the android insides looked, and the dialogue was re-written).]] So, it is within plausibility that it originally was meant to come off as such.
29th Jun '17 7:04:34 PM CB2001
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*** To be fair, [[spoiler: Veronica Cartwright stated on the audio commentary of the film that the original version of events in the film was that after Parker was killed by the alien, Ripley finds Lambert in the same locker that she, Parker and Brett found Jonesy The Cat in earlier in the film. She explained that she didn't even know that her character was 'raped' by the Alien until she saw it at the premiere. The leg you see the tail wrap around in the theatrical cut and the director's cut is actually Brett's leg from the earlier scene when he is attacked by the Alien (Lambert wears cowboy boots throughout her time in the film and the leg you see is wearing low-cut white Chuck Taylors like Brett is wearing). Also, in a cut version of the scene with Ash's head on the table originally had dialogue where Ash actually accuses the crew of not making an attempt to try to communicate with it. The scene was reshot due to Scott not liking how the android insides looked, and the dialogue was re-written).]] So, it is within plausibility that it originally was meant to come off as such.
21st May '17 8:59:47 PM cluosborne
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[[WMG: Someone is playing the LongGame to destory Humanity and is responsible for the events in Alien]]

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[[WMG: Someone is playing the LongGame to destory destroy Humanity and is responsible for the events in Alien]]
21st May '17 8:49:35 PM cluosborne
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: David]] is playing the LongGame to destory Humanity and is responsible for the events in Alien]]
Consider that Special Order 937 has no signature or name associated with it. Mind you, that's not surprising considering the circumstances, but Ash would have to know who he was delivering the lifeform to when they arrived at Earth. Everyone assumed that the order came from some higher-up at the Company, but such orders could be easily spoofed (e-mails can be made to look like it came from a legit source). [[spoiler: By the end of Covenant, David now has full control of the colony ship and full access to the onboard computer. Therefore, he has a backdoor into Weyland-Yutani's computer network. He could have been the one who wrote Special Order 937 and put Ash on the Nostromo.]] Some of what Ash says about the Xenomorph are in line with what [[spoiler: David]] would say. It would also explain why the [[spoiler: board of inquiry in Aliens didn't find any evidence or gaps in data on what happened. It wasn't a coverup, it was David acting to ensure his plan wasn't derailed.]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: David]] Someone is playing the LongGame to destory Humanity and is responsible for the events in Alien]]
Consider that Special Order 937 has no signature or name associated with it. Mind you, that's not surprising considering the circumstances, but Ash would have to know who or where he was delivering the lifeform to when they arrived at Earth. Everyone assumed that the order came from some higher-up at the Company, but such orders could be easily spoofed (e-mails can be made to look like it came from a legit source). [[spoiler: By the end of Covenant, David now has full control of the colony ship and full access to the onboard computer. Therefore, he has a backdoor into Weyland-Yutani's computer network. He could have been the one who wrote Special Order 937 and put Ash on the Nostromo.]] Some of what Ash says about the Xenomorph are in line with what [[spoiler: David]] would say. It would also explain why the [[spoiler: board of inquiry in Aliens didn't find any evidence or gaps in data on what happened. It wasn't a coverup, it was David acting to ensure his plan wasn't derailed.]]
21st May '17 8:44:50 PM cluosborne
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Is not an Engineer, but [[spoiler:David from ''Prometheus''. It's been noted by some viewers that David's internal structure in ''Alien: Covenent'' seems to be more advanced than in ''Prometheus'' or Ash in the original ''Alien'', so it's possible that David has been modifying or upgrading himself -- possibly with Engineer tech -- into a sort of biomechanical cyborg in order to surpass his creator's vision of him. Bridging the gap between ''Alien: Covenant'' and ''Alien'', David returns to LV-223 to hijack another Engineer ship and carry the Xenomorphs and Chemical A0-3959X.91 15 pathogen to Earth, but in a delicious, karmic twist of irony winds up a victim of his own creation and crashes on the nearby LV-426, dying to give birth to the first of the classic biomechanical Xenomorph strain seen in the original quadrilogy, which matures into a Queen and fills the cargo hold with eggs. This would possibly explain why the prototypic Xenomorph seen in ''Alien: Covenant'' is more organic than the classic version seen in the quadrilogy]].

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Is not an Engineer, but [[spoiler:David from ''Prometheus''. It's been noted by some viewers that David's internal structure in ''Alien: Covenent'' seems to be more advanced than in ''Prometheus'' or Ash in the original ''Alien'', so it's possible that David has been modifying or upgrading himself -- possibly with Engineer tech -- into a sort of biomechanical cyborg in order to surpass his creator's vision of him. Bridging the gap between ''Alien: Covenant'' and ''Alien'', David returns to LV-223 to hijack another Engineer ship and carry the Xenomorphs and Chemical A0-3959X.91 15 pathogen to Earth, but in a delicious, karmic twist of irony winds up a victim of his own creation and crashes on the nearby LV-426, dying to give birth to the first of the classic biomechanical Xenomorph strain seen in the original quadrilogy, which matures into a Queen and fills the cargo hold with eggs. This would possibly explain why the prototypic Xenomorph seen in ''Alien: Covenant'' is more organic than the classic version seen in the quadrilogy]].quadrilogy]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler: David]] is playing the LongGame to destory Humanity and is responsible for the events in Alien]]
Consider that Special Order 937 has no signature or name associated with it. Mind you, that's not surprising considering the circumstances, but Ash would have to know who he was delivering the lifeform to when they arrived at Earth. Everyone assumed that the order came from some higher-up at the Company, but such orders could be easily spoofed (e-mails can be made to look like it came from a legit source). [[spoiler: By the end of Covenant, David now has full control of the colony ship and full access to the onboard computer. Therefore, he has a backdoor into Weyland-Yutani's computer network. He could have been the one who wrote Special Order 937 and put Ash on the Nostromo.]] Some of what Ash says about the Xenomorph are in line with what [[spoiler: David]] would say. It would also explain why the [[spoiler: board of inquiry in Aliens didn't find any evidence or gaps in data on what happened. It wasn't a coverup, it was David acting to ensure his plan wasn't derailed.]]
21st May '17 12:02:38 AM Arawn999
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Specifically realities in which the events of ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' didn't occur. In this reality, Cyberdyne systems didn't fully recover and was acquired by the Weyland Corporation sometime in 2012, rebranded as its artificial intelligence division. Weyland Corporation then scrapped plans for Skynet and focused its research on humanoid androids. This division would produce androids such as [[Film/{{Prometheus}} David]], [[Film/{{Alien}} Ash]], [[Film/{{Aliens}} Bishop]], and [[Film/AlienResurrection Call]] as sort of a spiritual successor of the original Terminator. John Connor in this timeline would father the ancestors of Ellen Ripley, making Ripley one of Sarah Connor's descendants.

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Specifically realities in which the events of ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' didn't occur. In this reality, Cyberdyne systems didn't fully recover and was acquired by the Weyland Corporation sometime in 2012, rebranded as its artificial intelligence division. Weyland Corporation then scrapped plans for Skynet and focused its research on humanoid androids. This division would produce androids such as [[Film/{{Prometheus}} David]], [[Film/{{Alien}} Ash]], [[Film/{{Aliens}} Bishop]], and [[Film/AlienResurrection Call]] as sort of a spiritual successor of the original Terminator. John Connor in this timeline would father the ancestors of Ellen Ripley, making Ripley one of Sarah Connor's descendants.descendants.

[[WMG: The Space Jockey's Identity]]

Is not an Engineer, but [[spoiler:David from ''Prometheus''. It's been noted by some viewers that David's internal structure in ''Alien: Covenent'' seems to be more advanced than in ''Prometheus'' or Ash in the original ''Alien'', so it's possible that David has been modifying or upgrading himself -- possibly with Engineer tech -- into a sort of biomechanical cyborg in order to surpass his creator's vision of him. Bridging the gap between ''Alien: Covenant'' and ''Alien'', David returns to LV-223 to hijack another Engineer ship and carry the Xenomorphs and Chemical A0-3959X.91 15 pathogen to Earth, but in a delicious, karmic twist of irony winds up a victim of his own creation and crashes on the nearby LV-426, dying to give birth to the first of the classic biomechanical Xenomorph strain seen in the original quadrilogy, which matures into a Queen and fills the cargo hold with eggs. This would possibly explain why the prototypic Xenomorph seen in ''Alien: Covenant'' is more organic than the classic version seen in the quadrilogy]].
13th Mar '17 6:48:56 PM Vir
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* Someone actually wrote a fanfiction called ''Aliens Versus Serenity'' that involved [[spoiler:River becoming ''literally'' impregnated with an alien queen. ''By a facehugger.'' No, it's not what it sounds like, you perverts. [[YouFailBiologyForever The embryo was deposited through her]] ''[[YouFailBiologyForever mouth]]'' [[YouFailBiologyForever and ended up in her]] ''[[YouFailBiologyForever uterus]]''.]] The story violated canon in lots of other ways, though, and added some pointless new characters with no explanation.

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* Someone actually wrote a fanfiction called ''Aliens Versus Serenity'' that involved [[spoiler:River becoming ''literally'' impregnated with an alien queen. ''By a facehugger.'' No, it's not what it sounds like, you perverts. [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology The embryo was deposited through her]] ''[[YouFailBiologyForever ''[[ArtisticLicenseBiology mouth]]'' [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology and ended up in her]] ''[[YouFailBiologyForever ''[[ArtisticLicenseBiology uterus]]''.]] The story violated canon in lots of other ways, though, and added some pointless new characters with no explanation.
17th Jan '17 5:29:36 PM Gojirob
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*** Ripley would have searched the ship, not merely for their safety, but to deny W-Y their unholy prize. Another bit of evidence for nightmares : Like in a dream/nightmare, you think about the monster, or sight it in the far distance, and suddenly it's right there with you. The xenomorphs from there on in just have luck pies and plot coupons galore.
8th Jan '17 10:41:46 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The series is a sequel to ''TheLastStarfighter'']]

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[[WMG: The series is a sequel to ''TheLastStarfighter'']]''Film/TheLastStarfighter'']]
1st Nov '16 5:56:55 PM k410ren
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** Tell that to [[spoiler:Lambert]]. The Alien is clearly malicious and sadistic when it goes for her, putting its tail between her legs as she moans in fear.
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