History WMG / Aladdin

29th Aug '17 2:09:00 PM ChaoticNovelist
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[[WMG: ''Aladdin'' takes place in the ''Assassin's Creed'' universe]]
* Genie and the Oracle from the King of Thieves movie are Those Who Came Before
* The Hand of Midas is actually a Piece of Eden
* Cassim is a Master Assassin who wants to teach Aladdin the ways of the Order, his dagger was the weapon that he left his son.
* Aladdin actually is a skilled enough Assassin who prefers not to kill (Case in point, in the third movie he would have killed all the guards while pretending to be the King of Thieves quite easily)
* The Forty Thieves are an order of Assassins that were easily turned by Sa'luk (who is a secret Templar looking for the Piece of Eden)

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[[WMG: ''Aladdin'' takes place in the ''Assassin's Creed'' ''[[Franchise/AssassinsCreed Assassin's Creed]]'' universe]]
* Genie and the Oracle from the King of Thieves movie are Those Who Came Before
Before. Containing themselves in a lamp or in a scepter is how they survived the solar flare and the many centuries that passed since.
* The Hand of Midas is actually a Piece of Eden
Eden, the Gauntlet. So is Jafar's scepter (mind-control!)
* Cassim is a Master Assassin who wants to teach Aladdin the ways of the Order, his Order. His dagger was the weapon that he left his son.son. He says that the Code of the Forty Thieves includes "we never hurt the innocent". That sounds a lot like the first Tenant of the Assassin's Creed: "Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent". The Hand of Midas he was looking for would not only provide the Brotherhood with an endless supply of funding but it would also provide for his family. When he leaves at the end of the third film, it is to inform another Assassin guild that Agrabath is in good hands, his son's.
* Aladdin actually is a skilled enough Assassin who prefers not to kill (Case in point, in the third movie he would have killed all the guards while pretending to be the King of Thieves quite easily)
easily). "One Jump" is a showcase of his LeParkour skills and his ability to blend in a crowd to escape guards. He is "the diamond in the rough" because he has First Civilization DNA and the Chamber of Wonders is a First Civilization storehouse.
* The Forty Thieves are an order of Assassins that Assassins. Consider how effortlessly they infiltrate a royal wedding and how quickly they make their escape. All the stealing they did was from Templars or was otherwise to fund the Brotherhood. They were easily turned by Sa'luk (who who is a secret Templar looking for the Piece of Eden)
infiltrator.



* Isn't The Jungle Book supposed to take place long after Aladdin?

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* Isn't The Jungle Book supposed to take place long after Aladdin?

11th Aug '17 11:44:49 AM CJCroen1393
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* WordOfGod seems to have confirmed this as at least a WhatCouldHaveBeen thing--apparently, a concept for Iago that was never made explicit in the film is that Jafar transferred some of his personality into him in order to make himself more stoic and thus free of petty distractions like "emotion", which is apparently why Iago is [[HairTriggerTemper the way he is now]]. This may also be a DevelopmentGag, as during production the two's personalities were indeed swapped.
23rd Jul '17 4:12:15 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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To support my theory, look at Jafar. As soon as he's become the "most powerful sorcerer in the world", he begins acting mildly anachronistic (he uses his staff like a golf club, which I'm pretty sure didn't exist in… whatever time period the film is set; the way the tower he hits with it flies off is conspicuously similar to a rocket launching…). Iago, too, who probably became a TalkingAnimal thanks to some magical AppliedPhlebotinum, routinely [[AnachronisticStew stews anachronisms]]. We all know the Genie's own shenanigans. And of course, there is the Oracle in the third movie. Additionally, the Peddler, if he [[{{Jossed}} isn't]] the Genie, could very have gained his anachronistic qualities because he owned the lamp.

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To support my theory, look at Jafar. As soon as he's become the "most powerful sorcerer in the world", he begins acting mildly anachronistic (he uses his staff like a golf club, which I'm pretty sure didn't exist in… whatever time period the film is set; the way the tower he hits with it flies off is conspicuously similar to a rocket launching…). Iago, too, who probably became a TalkingAnimal thanks to some magical AppliedPhlebotinum, routinely [[AnachronisticStew [[AnachronismStew stews anachronisms]]. We all know the Genie's own shenanigans. And of course, there is the Oracle in the third movie. Additionally, the Peddler, if he [[{{Jossed}} isn't]] the Genie, could very have gained his anachronistic qualities because he owned the lamp.



[[PurpleProse One fateful night]], in the gloomy light of an [[ChekhovsGun oil lamp]], he made an unholy pact with an evil wizard seeking the powers of the gods themselves. When said wizard got cursed into being forever the slave of the lamp, the carpet merchant received his own [[IronicHell ironic punishment]]. He would no longer step on others...

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[[PurpleProse One fateful night]], in the gloomy light of an [[ChekhovsGun oil lamp]], he made an [[DealWithTheDevil unholy pact pact]] with an evil wizard seeking the powers of the gods themselves. When said wizard got cursed into being forever the slave of the lamp, the carpet merchant received his own [[IronicHell ironic punishment]]. He would no longer step on others...
11th Jun '17 12:11:21 PM nombretomado
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OK, so common rumor among fans: Aladdin and Mozenrath were supposed to be brothers (which makes a heck of a lot of sense). This obviously makes Cassim their father. The Forty Thieves made their big goal to get the Hand O' Midas. From {{Wikipedia}}:

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OK, so common rumor among fans: Aladdin and Mozenrath were supposed to be brothers (which makes a heck of a lot of sense). This obviously makes Cassim their father. The Forty Thieves made their big goal to get the Hand O' Midas. From {{Wikipedia}}:
Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}:
8th May '17 4:50:12 AM Tightwire
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[[WMG: The destruction is the Cave's choice, ''not'' a Self-Destruct-Button]]
* Tying into the "Touch Nothing But The Lamp" guff, not only does the Cave ''know'' if you've touched something, it can ''deliberately'' make exceptions for the Carpet and for stubbing your toe. It could blow up any time it pleased, but it's kind of got a job to do. Still, it knew the very moment that Abu picked up that gem. And if Abu tried to take one, he'd try to take more. DIE! DIE! DIE! Yes, the Cave is a JerkAss. Those are the deals when you're looking for magic lamps that can change time and space.




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** No wonder the Sultan wanted her to be married so much!



* Some material actually says that it's a cheap brass lamp, not gold.

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* Some material actually says that it's a cheap old brass lamp, not gold.
gold. Aladdin comments that it looks like a worthless hunk of junk, after all. Jafar's lamp is described as being shiny and new, although the material is unspecified.
8th May '17 4:21:15 AM Tightwire
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They clearly had history together -- the Genie greets him as soon as he leaves the lamp. The rug is also clearly sentient and, judging from what the Genie said, several millennia old.

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They Carpet is just so expressive, so brave, so loyal that it kind of ''deserves'' to have been a real person just because that person would be the nicest person ''ever''. Genie and Carpet clearly had history together -- - the Genie greets him as soon as he leaves the lamp. The rug is also clearly sentient and, judging from what the Genie said, several millennia old.old, potentially from Egyptian or even 'Atlantean' times.



*** Well, [[Film/TheBigLebowski he'll forever tie the room together, man.]]
** If Carpet made the same promise Aladdin made, then broke it, then Genie might actually feel hard-done-by enough to make that last wish go sour. You saw how hurt he was when Aladdin changed his mind.

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*** Well, [[Film/TheBigLebowski he'll forever tie the room together, man.]]
** If Carpet made the same promise Aladdin made, then broke it, then Genie might actually feel hard-done-by enough to make that last wish go sour. You saw how hurt he was when Aladdin changed his mind.
]] Also, it's a ''magic'' carpet.



When he died, Genie kept it.

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When he died, Genie kept it.
it. Or it just returned to the Cave.



[[PurpleProse One fateful night]], in the gloomy light of an [[ChekhovsGun oil lamp]], he made an unholy pact with an evil wizard seeking the powers of the gods themselves. When said wizard got cursed into being forever the slave of the lamp, the carpet merchant received his own [[IronicHell ironic punishment]]. He would no longer step on others.

[[WMG: The Carpet was a greedy carpet merchant who wished to be able to fly]]
* Carpet was a carpet merchant who acquired the lamp. He promised to free Genie, but broke his promise and wished to be able to fly. Genie was so hurt that he gave Carpet an IronicPunishment. When he got over it, Genie realised what a horrible thing he'd done, but he couldn't fix it - not only could Carpet not speak, not only were the three wishes up, but only mortal humans could make wishes anyway. Genie promised to never be a JackassGenie again, and eventually they made up.
* It can also explain why he was so eager to help Aladdin even when they didn't know each other - he would be free to pursue a way to turn him back.

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[[PurpleProse One fateful night]], in the gloomy light of an [[ChekhovsGun oil lamp]], he made an unholy pact with an evil wizard seeking the powers of the gods themselves. When said wizard got cursed into being forever the slave of the lamp, the carpet merchant received his own [[IronicHell ironic punishment]]. He would no longer step on others.

others...

[[WMG: The Carpet was a greedy carpet merchant who wished to be able to fly]]
suffered an ironic punishment.]]
* Carpet was a carpet merchant who acquired the lamp. He promised to free Genie, but broke his promise and wished to be able to fly. fly, or he wished for a magic carpet... something like that. Genie was so hurt that he gave Carpet an IronicPunishment.Ironic Punishment. When he got over it, Genie realised what a horrible thing he'd done, but he couldn't fix it - not only could Carpet not speak, not only were the three wishes up, but only mortal humans could make wishes anyway. Genie promised to never be a JackassGenie again, and eventually they made up.
* It can also explain why he was Carpet is always so eager to help Aladdin even when they didn't know each other - he would be free to pursue a way to turn him back.
** If Carpet made the same promise Aladdin made, then broke it, then Genie might actually feel hard-done-by enough to make that last wish go sour. You saw how hurt he was when Aladdin changed his mind.
7th May '17 3:49:06 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Genie is a [[{{Starcraft}} Twilight Archon]].]]

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[[WMG: Genie is a [[{{Starcraft}} [[VideoGame/{{Starcraft}} Twilight Archon]].]]
6th May '17 8:14:07 AM Tightwire
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[[WMG: Carpet and Iago would make a great couple]]
* Face it, they're both enchanted, and Iago talks all the time while Carpet never talks. Iago's cunning and clever with a good streak while Carpet is kind and clever with a bit of a sneaky streak - it's one of those things where opposites might just attract.
6th May '17 6:43:32 AM Tightwire
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* It can also explain why he was so eager to help Aladdin even when they didn't know each other - he would be free to pursue a way to turn him back.
6th May '17 6:38:01 AM Tightwire
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** If Carpet made the same promise Aladdin made, then broke it, then Genie might actually feel hard-done-by enough to make that last wish go sour. You saw how hurt he was when Aladdin changed his mind.




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** Impossible; Genie explicitly stated he'd known Carpet for a long time.



[[WMG: The Carpet was a greedy carpet merchant who wished to be able to fly]]
* Carpet was a carpet merchant who acquired the lamp. He promised to free Genie, but broke his promise and wished to be able to fly. Genie was so hurt that he gave Carpet an IronicPunishment. When he got over it, Genie realised what a horrible thing he'd done, but he couldn't fix it - not only could Carpet not speak, not only were the three wishes up, but only mortal humans could make wishes anyway. Genie promised to never be a JackassGenie again, and eventually they made up.




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* Some material actually says that it's a cheap brass lamp, not gold.
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