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* The Film/SyFyChannelOriginalMovie ''Attack of the Sabertooth'' justifies why the titular cats keep hunting people long after they'd realistically be full by explaining that they're ''bulimic'' and keep regurgitating everything they eat, so they're always hungry. How and why a bunch of prehistoric big cats have psychological eating disorders, and that they ''all'' have it, is never explained.
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** Adds a minor sub-plot about how the ButterflyOfDoom that is important to the plot would not have affected the timeline because the Time Machine has a "bio-filter" to prevent it... that the CorruptCorporateExecutive in charge of the time safari company shut down [[CuttingCorners to save on electrical bill money]]. The question of how the heck a filter that is extremely heavily implied is meant to prevent bio-hazardous material from the past to travel to the future is supposed to prevent the changes to the timeline from stepping on a butterfly in the past (or the fact the butterfly is in an area that is about to be immolated by a volcanic eruption within a minute or so every time the travelers arrive, which means it does not matters what kills it) remains unexplained.

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** Adds a minor sub-plot about how the ButterflyOfDoom that is important to the plot would not have affected the timeline because the Time Machine has a "bio-filter" to prevent it... that the CorruptCorporateExecutive in charge of the time safari company shut down [[CuttingCorners to save on electrical bill money]]. The question of how the heck a filter that is extremely heavily implied is meant to prevent bio-hazardous material from the past to travel to the future is supposed to prevent the changes to the timeline from stepping on a butterfly in the past (or the fact the butterfly is in an area that is about to be immolated by a volcanic eruption within a minute or so every time the travelers arrive, which means it does not matters matter what kills it) remains unexplained.
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* ''Film/TheLastAirbender'': In the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the original series]], the Earthbenders were imprisoned on an abandoned oil rig by the Fire Nation. The idea was that the rig is made of metal and out at sea, making it impossible (at the time) to do any earthbending, therefore, making it nigh-impossible for any prisoners to escape. In the film, the oil rig is replaced by a quarry, a place surrounded by earth, yet non of the Earthbenders have escaped. The closest thing we have to an "explanation" is that the Earthbenders have been imprisoned for so long, their spirits were broken and they've lost the will to fight back, something they only regain when Aang gives his RousingSpeech. The problem is that in order for their spirits to be broken, they would have had to have had no obvious means of, or no successful attempts at, escaping in the first place. There's no way they could have just given up hope seconds after being tossed in prison, without at least some attempts to fight back and break out. Surely they could have just used their earthbending the first moment they got.

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* ''Film/TheLastAirbender'': In the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the original series]], the Earthbenders were imprisoned on an abandoned oil rig by the Fire Nation. The idea was that the rig is made of metal and out at sea, making it impossible (at the time) to do any earthbending, therefore, making it nigh-impossible for any prisoners to escape. In the film, the oil rig is replaced by a quarry, a place surrounded by earth, yet non none of the Earthbenders have escaped. The closest thing we have to an "explanation" is that the Earthbenders have been imprisoned for so long, their spirits were broken and they've lost the will to fight back, something they only regain when Aang gives his RousingSpeech. The problem is that in order for their spirits to be broken, they would have had to have had no obvious means of, or no successful attempts at, escaping in the first place. There's no way they could have just given up hope seconds after being tossed in prison, without at least some attempts to fight back and break out. Surely they could have just used their earthbending the first moment they got.
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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise holy water and exorcism shouldn't on Pazuzu. So, if they both exist in the films' universe, it should be a case of AllMythsAreTrue, yet we never see any other gods. Besides, a Mesopotamian god has no logical reason to be working for the Christian Satan in the first place. This may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed in the film.

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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise holy water and exorcism shouldn't work on Pazuzu. So, if they both exist in the films' universe, it should be a case of AllMythsAreTrue, yet we never see any other gods. Besides, a Mesopotamian god has no logical reason to be working for the Christian Satan in the first place. This may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed in the film.
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* ''Film/TheJungleBook2016'' decided to give the character King Louie an AdaptationSpeciesChange from [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 the 1967 original]], turning him from an orangutan into a ''Gigantopithecus'' (a extinct genus of ape that lived in Southeast Asia during the Pleistocene). According to WordOfGod, the change was done to correct a bit of MisplacedWildlife from the original, as orangutans aren't actually native to India. But the movie still features Mowgli--a modern human boy--which means that it takes place at least 100,000 years after ''Gigantopitheci'' went extinct. For some reason, the filmmakers thought having an ''extinct'' primate in the movie was less inexplicable than having a non-Indian one. Particularly glaring, since they easily could have explained Louie as an escaped captive orangutan brought to India by the English (what with [[Literature/TheJungleBook the original book]] being written just a few decades after the rise of the British Raj). It would be much simpler to just call RuleOfCool.

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* ''Film/TheJungleBook2016'' decided to give the character King Louie an AdaptationSpeciesChange from [[WesternAnimation/TheJungleBook1967 the 1967 original]], turning him from an orangutan into a ''Gigantopithecus'' (a extinct genus of ape that lived in Southeast Asia during the Pleistocene). According to WordOfGod, the change was done to correct a bit of MisplacedWildlife from the original, as orangutans aren't actually native to India. But the movie still features Mowgli--a modern human boy--which means that it takes place at least 100,000 years after ''Gigantopitheci'' ''Gigantopithecus'' went extinct. For some reason, the filmmakers thought having an ''extinct'' primate in the movie was less inexplicable than having a non-Indian one. Particularly glaring, since they easily could have explained Louie as an escaped captive orangutan brought to India by the English (what with [[Literature/TheJungleBook the original book]] being written just a few decades after the rise of the British Raj). It would be much simpler to just call RuleOfCool.
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** The film seems to think that audiences wouldn't get why Gaston is so popular with the townsfolk when he's such a {{Jerkass}}, something the original film implied was due to his charisma and contributions to the town. So they show him paying off the townsfolk to sing with him -- which is unnecessary, because he had enough genuine charisma in the original that no one questioned why he was so popular. If anything, you'd think the fact he has to pay people off to get them to like him would make him unpopular, especially in a small provincial town where gossip travels fast. It also raises a confusing point about why ''anyone'' would listen to him if he was paying them off, since if they were being paid to help kill the Beast, you would expect they would be hesitant to go do so even if paid. And they also gave him the FreudianExcuse of [[ShellShockedVeteran war trauma]], but a ''war hero'' would logically be very popular among the townsfolk. It makes Gaston far less realistic than the film intended him to be.

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** The film seems to think that audiences wouldn't get why Gaston is [[VillainWithGoodPublicity so popular with the townsfolk townsfolk]] when he's such a {{Jerkass}}, something the original film implied was due to his charisma and contributions to the town. So they show him paying off the townsfolk to sing with him -- which is unnecessary, because he had enough genuine charisma in the original that no one questioned why he was so popular. If anything, you'd think the fact he has to pay people off to get them to like him would make him unpopular, especially in a small provincial town where gossip travels fast. It also raises a confusing point about why ''anyone'' would listen to him if he was paying them off, since if they were being paid to help kill the Beast, you would expect they would be hesitant to go do so even if paid. And they also gave him the FreudianExcuse of [[ShellShockedVeteran war trauma]], but a ''war hero'' would logically be very popular among the townsfolk. It makes Gaston far less realistic than the film intended him to be.

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** Also relating to the opening of the film is the context for the Witch cursing them to begin with. In the original movie it was left up for interpretation, but it was suggested by the intro that the Witch simply requested help at the castle door, but was refused due to her "ugly appearance", prompting her to curse the Prince and the staff for doing so. Some viewers questioned this though since the movie never outright confirms exactly what happened. In the new film, they attempt to make it clear what happened by showing the Witch entering the castle and demanding help from the Prince, and when he tells her to leave, she curses the Prince and the staff. This explanation makes the entire logic of why the Witch sought aide from the Prince confusing though, as the movie also makes it clear that Prince was known for a while as a cruel person, so why the Witch thought he would help her makes no sense now. If she knew he wouldn't help but did so anyway, it makes the Witch look like a terrible person for going and then cursing everyone when she should have known it would end that way. Furthermore, the change to the scene makes it look like the Witch forced her way into the castle to receive aide instead of being rejected at the door, making it look like she broke in, demanded help, and than got upset she wasn't helped. By explaining this backstory, it comes across as the Witch being a terrible person rather than a justified punishment, and raises questions about why she would do so.
** The film seems to think that audiences wouldn't get why Gaston is so popular with the townsfolk when he's such a {{Jerkass}}. So they show him paying off the townsfolk to sing with him -- which is unnecessary, because he had enough genuine charisma in the original that no one questioned why he was so popular. If anything, you'd think the fact he has to pay people off to get them to like him would make him unpopular, especially in a small provincial town where gossip travels fast. It also raises a confusing point about why ''anyone'' would listen to him if he was paying them off, since if they were being paid to help kill the Beast, you would expect they would be hesitant to go do so even if paid. And they also gave him the FreudianExcuse of [[ShellShockedVeteran war trauma]], but a ''war hero'' would logically be very popular among the townsfolk. It makes Gaston far less realistic than the film intended him to be.

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** Also relating to the opening of the film is the context for the Witch cursing them to begin with. In the original movie it was left up for interpretation, but it was suggested by the intro that the Witch simply requested help at the castle door, but was refused due to her "ugly appearance", prompting her to curse the Prince and the staff for doing so. Some viewers questioned this though since the movie never outright confirms exactly what happened. In the new film, they attempt to make it clear what happened by showing the Witch entering the castle and demanding help from the Prince, and when he tells her to leave, she curses the Prince and the staff. This explanation makes the entire logic of why the Witch sought aide from the Prince confusing though, as the movie also makes it clear that Prince was known for a while as a cruel person, so why the Witch thought he would help her makes no sense now. If she knew he wouldn't help but did so anyway, it makes the Witch look like a terrible person for going and then cursing everyone when she should have known it would end that way. Furthermore, the change to the scene makes it look like the Witch forced her way into the castle to receive aide instead of being rejected at the door, making it look like she broke in, demanded help, and than got upset she wasn't helped. By explaining this backstory, it comes across as the Witch being a terrible person rather than a justified punishment, and raises questions about why she would do so.
** The film seems to think that audiences wouldn't get why Gaston is so popular with the townsfolk when he's such a {{Jerkass}}.{{Jerkass}}, something the original film implied was due to his charisma and contributions to the town. So they show him paying off the townsfolk to sing with him -- which is unnecessary, because he had enough genuine charisma in the original that no one questioned why he was so popular. If anything, you'd think the fact he has to pay people off to get them to like him would make him unpopular, especially in a small provincial town where gossip travels fast. It also raises a confusing point about why ''anyone'' would listen to him if he was paying them off, since if they were being paid to help kill the Beast, you would expect they would be hesitant to go do so even if paid. And they also gave him the FreudianExcuse of [[ShellShockedVeteran war trauma]], but a ''war hero'' would logically be very popular among the townsfolk. It makes Gaston far less realistic than the film intended him to be.

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** The government has sent over a dozen groups of people and various animals and electronic devices into the Shimmer, but none have returned to report on what's on the other side (save Kane, who is comatose). After the protagonists venture into the Shimmer for several days, experience some of its horrors, and discover the reason for the communication and physiology problems, most of them want to escape and report on what they found -- but the leader shoots them down by saying without going all of the way to the end and discovering the full truth, "any information they report would just cause further confusion". Did all of the previous groups also decide that making partial reports was worthless as well? To use the film's cancer analogy, this is like every single cancer research scientist deciding never to communicate or publish any of their test findings until they discovered the cure. Every subsequent scientist would have to start from square one. [[spoiler:At least the leader has the excuse that she is driven to get to the Shimmer's origin point to see it with her own eyes come hell or high water because she is SecretlyDying to deliver such a blatant piece of B.S. that even the other people on the team point out. The teams that came before her have no such excuse.]]
** The outside world apparently knows nothing about the Shimmer because "the people in the area were evacuated and told there was a chemical spill". So, people have evacuated their homes in a very large area (the team takes about a week to travel to the center of the Shimmer) for three ''years'' without asking questions, and no news teams have investigated the very large visual disturbance caused by the Shimmer? This cover-up would be harder than trying to conceal Mt. Vesuvius destroying Pompeii.

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** The government has sent over a dozen groups of people and various animals and electronic devices into the Shimmer, but none have returned to report on what's on the other side (save Kane, who is comatose). After the protagonists venture into the Shimmer for several days, experience some of its horrors, and discover the reason for the communication and physiology problems, most of them want to escape and report on what they found -- but the leader shoots them down by saying without going all of the way to the end and discovering the full truth, "any information they report would just cause further confusion". Did Apparently all of the previous groups also decide decided that making partial reports was worthless as well? worthless. To use the film's cancer analogy, this is like every single cancer research scientist deciding never to communicate or publish any of their test findings until they discovered the cure. Every subsequent scientist would have to start from square one. [[spoiler:At least the leader has the excuse that she is driven to get to the Shimmer's origin point to see it with her own eyes come hell or high water because she is SecretlyDying to deliver such a blatant piece of B.S. that even the other people on the team point out. The teams that came before her have no such excuse.]]
** The outside world apparently knows nothing about the Shimmer because "the people in the area were evacuated and told there was a chemical spill". So, This would require people have evacuated to evacuate their homes in a very large area (the team takes about a week to travel to the center of the Shimmer) for three ''years'' without asking questions, and for no news teams have investigated to investigate the very large visual disturbance caused by the Shimmer? This Shimmer -- a cover-up that would be harder than trying to conceal Mt. Vesuvius destroying Pompeii.



** The film seems to think that audiences wouldn't get why Gaston is so popular with the townsfolk when he's such a {{Jerkass}}. So they show him paying off the townsfolk to sing with him -- which is unnecessary, because he had enough genuine charisma in the original that no one questioned why he was so popular. If anything, you'd think "he has to pay people off to get them to like him" would make him unpopular, especially in a small provincial town where gossip travels fast. It also raises a confusing point about why ''anyone'' would listen to him if he was paying them off, since if they were being to help kill the beast, you would expect that they would be hesitant to go do so even if paid. And they also gave him the FreudianExcuse of [[ShellShockedVeteran war trauma]], but why wouldn't a ''war hero'' be popular among the townsfolk? It makes Gaston far less realistic then the film intended to be.

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** The film seems to think that audiences wouldn't get why Gaston is so popular with the townsfolk when he's such a {{Jerkass}}. So they show him paying off the townsfolk to sing with him -- which is unnecessary, because he had enough genuine charisma in the original that no one questioned why he was so popular. If anything, you'd think "he the fact he has to pay people off to get them to like him" him would make him unpopular, especially in a small provincial town where gossip travels fast. It also raises a confusing point about why ''anyone'' would listen to him if he was paying them off, since if they were being paid to help kill the beast, Beast, you would expect that they would be hesitant to go do so even if paid. And they also gave him the FreudianExcuse of [[ShellShockedVeteran war trauma]], but why wouldn't a ''war hero'' would logically be very popular among the townsfolk? townsfolk. It makes Gaston far less realistic then than the film intended him to be.



* The {{directors cut}} of ''Film/BladeRunner'' famous re-inserts a {{deleted scene}} that apparently explains the meaning of the origami unicorn that Gaff leaves in Deckard's apartment at the end of the movie: Deckard may or may not [[spoiler:be a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot replicant]] himself]], and the unicorn may or may not be [[spoiler:a warning that Gaff knows his secret]].[[note]] The deleted scene features Deckard having a dream about a unicorn--possibly meaning that Gaff leaves the origami unicorn to indicate that [[spoiler:he's seen Deckard's implanted memories, and knows about his dream]] ([[CallBack echoing the scene where Deckard reveals to Rachael that she's a replicant]]).[[/note]] Assuming this is actually how Creator/RidleyScott intended that scene to be interpreted (he's always [[ShrugOfGod played it coy]]), this raises about a dozen additional questions. Most glaringly: [[spoiler:how exactly did a replicant get a job hunting down ''other'' replicants for the LAPD when replicants aren't even supposed to be allowed on Earth]]?

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* The {{directors cut}} of ''Film/BladeRunner'' famous re-inserts a {{deleted scene}} that apparently explains the meaning of the origami unicorn that Gaff leaves in Deckard's apartment at the end of the movie: Deckard may or may not [[spoiler:be a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot replicant]] himself]], and the unicorn may or may not be [[spoiler:a warning that Gaff knows his secret]].[[note]] The deleted scene features Deckard having a dream about a unicorn--possibly meaning that Gaff leaves the origami unicorn to indicate that [[spoiler:he's seen Deckard's implanted memories, and knows about his dream]] ([[CallBack echoing the scene where Deckard reveals to Rachael that she's a replicant]]).[[/note]] Assuming this is actually how Creator/RidleyScott intended that scene to be interpreted (he's always [[ShrugOfGod played it coy]]), this raises creates about a dozen additional questions. plot holes. Most glaringly: [[spoiler:how exactly did a glaringly, [[spoiler:a replicant get gets a job hunting down ''other'' replicants for the LAPD when replicants aren't even supposed to be allowed on Earth]]?Earth]].



*** It addressed one of the original cut's most nagging plot holes: How did Superman not detect the bomb that blew up the Congressional hearing? The bomb was encased in lead, which Superman's x-ray vision can't penetrate. This raises the following questions: How did Luthor even know that Superman couldn't see through lead? Nobody knew the extent of his powers. Maybe Luthor's smart enough to puzzle that out, perhaps with the assistance of the Kryptonian databases on the downed ship, but that's a heck of a logical leap. In addition, why couldn’t Superman ''hear'' the bomb’s internal mechanisms prime to go off? He can hear things like Lois falling or his mother in danger while ''in orbit'', but he can't hear the small sounds of a bomb when its almost right in front of him.
*** Superman is accused of a massacre that Luthor's mercenaries staged, which is the scene shown at the start of the film after the flashback. In the original film, all the victims were gunned down, which should in theory exonerate Superman, who DoesntLikeGuns and has enough physical strength to make weapons utterly unnecessary. The extended version shows the mercenaries piling the bodies together and torching them with a flamethrower, apparently to replicate the results of Superman's EyeBeams. While this does at least make more sense why people would confuse it for him than bullets, Superman has heat-vision that many have seen is capable of annihilating buildings with ease, meaning if Superman was the cause, he'd have to be lowering his heat vision to the point it kills them but leaves them just burned, for no apparent reason. And it also raises the question of why nobody could tell the bodies had been shot (did they remove the bullets from the bodies as well, and stitch up the holes?) or notice that the bodies are covered in burnt flamethrower fuel.
*** The accusations are reinforced by a witness, who testifies and then disappears from the movie. In the extended edition, it's revealed that Luthor blackmailed her into doing it, but then she has a change of heart and comes clean to a Senator. But if so, why didn't Luthor silence her right away, before she could confess? And why doesn't the Senator immediately take her into protected custody for when Luthor eventually ''does'' go after her? Also, if the senator believes her, why does she seem to act like Superman is still guilty in the hearing when she should now think Superman is being framed?

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*** It addressed addresses one of the original cut's most nagging plot holes: How did Superman not detect the bomb that blew up the Congressional hearing? The bomb was encased in lead, which Superman's x-ray vision can't penetrate. This raises unfortunately creates new plot holes: Since nobody knew the following questions: How did extent of Superman's powers, Luthor shouldn't even know that Superman couldn't can't see through lead? Nobody knew the extent of his powers. Maybe lead. ''Maybe'' Luthor's smart enough to puzzle that out, perhaps with the assistance of the Kryptonian databases on the downed ship, but that's a heck of a logical leap. In addition, why couldn’t Superman ''hear'' should have ''heard'' the bomb’s internal mechanisms prime to go off? off. He can hear things like Lois falling or his mother in danger while ''in orbit'', but he can't hear the small sounds of a bomb when its it's almost right in front of him.
*** Superman is accused of a massacre that Luthor's mercenaries staged, which is the scene shown at the start of the film after the flashback. In the original film, all the victims were gunned down, which should in theory exonerate Superman, who DoesntLikeGuns and has enough physical strength to make weapons utterly unnecessary. The extended version shows the mercenaries piling the bodies together and torching them with a flamethrower, apparently to replicate the results of Superman's EyeBeams. While this does at least make more sense why people would confuse it for him than bullets, Superman has heat-vision that many have seen is capable of annihilating buildings with ease, meaning if Superman was the cause, he'd have to be lowering his heat vision to the point it kills them but leaves them just burned, for no apparent reason. And it also raises the question of why nobody could tell the bodies had been shot (did they remove the bullets from the bodies as well, and stitch up the holes?) shot, or notice that the bodies are covered in burnt flamethrower fuel.
*** The accusations are reinforced by a witness, who testifies and then disappears from the movie. In the extended edition, it's revealed that Luthor blackmailed her into doing it, but then she has a change of heart and comes clean to a Senator. But if so, why didn't Luthor silence should have silenced her right away, before she could confess? And why doesn't confess, and the Senator should have immediately take taken her into protected custody for when Luthor eventually ''does'' go after her? her. Also, if even though the senator believes her, why does she seem seems to act like Superman is still guilty in the hearing when she should now think Superman is being framed?framed.



*** Prior to the release of the film, it was revealed that ComicBook/MartianManhunter would be in the film, having been revealed to be a minor character from ''Man Of Steel'', Calvin Swanwick played by Creator/HarryLennix. The VoodooShark comes in from the fact that this makes no sense with the character established in ''Man Of Steel'', as Swanwick was shown to be skeptical of aliens, had a dismissive attitude about Superman, and was worried about if Superman was on the side of Earth, meaning if he was really Martian Manhunter, he would need to be a {{Hypocrite}} since he is an alien acting like a human for an unknown reason. Plus it raises the question of why he never helped with past threats like Zod, Doomsday, or help the Justice League fight Steppenwolf . Out of universe, it was confirmed to have essentially been a {{Retcon}} by Snyder, as he had originally said Swanwick wasn't Martian Manhunter, with Creator/HarryLennix confirming it as such, only for Snyder to change it when doing reshoots for the film, with Lennix outright stating [[ActingInTheDark he was not told of this change]].
*** During the film, it is explained that Darkseid attacked Earth looking for the Anti-Life Equation, but was beaten and retreated for several thousand years. Some viewers were confused why Darkseid waited so long to return, and why Steppenwolf is shocked that Earth has the Anti-Life Equation when on paper they should know already. Snyder explained in a statement after the movies release that when Darkseid retreated back to Apokolips, a coup was launched to overthrow him, and so he became focused on dealing with that while taking the time to recover from his wounds. By the time it was done, he had killed everyone who knew and had essentially forgotten. The issue is that this doesn't really make sense; how did he just forget when something should logically still exist that informs him Earth has the Anti-Life Equitation. Even if he doesn't, he and Steppenwolf are able to learn Earth has Mother Boxes, so they obviously have ways of keeping tabs on the planet even if if it through their own Mother Boxes, and yet Darkseid somehow forgets for thousands of years which planet he lost on, when the movie itself makes a big deal about Earth being "the one that fought back", meaning that even if Darkseid forgot, killed everyone who knew, and had no way of tracking or finding Earth again, somehow his failure is still remember enough that Steppenwolf can figure out that Earth is said location.

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*** Prior to the release of the film, it was revealed that ComicBook/MartianManhunter would be in the film, having been revealed to be a minor character from ''Man Of Steel'', Calvin Swanwick played by Creator/HarryLennix. The VoodooShark comes in from the fact that this makes no sense with the character established in ''Man Of Steel'', as Swanwick was shown to be skeptical of aliens, had a dismissive attitude about Superman, and was worried about if Superman was on the side of Earth, meaning if he was really Martian Manhunter, he would need to be a {{Hypocrite}} since he is an alien acting like a human for an unknown reason. Plus it raises the question of why he never helped with past threats like Zod, Doomsday, or help the Justice League fight Steppenwolf . Out of universe, it was confirmed to have essentially been a {{Retcon}} by Snyder, as he had originally said Swanwick wasn't Martian Manhunter, with Creator/HarryLennix confirming it as such, only for Snyder to change it when doing reshoots for the film, with Lennix outright stating [[ActingInTheDark he was not told of this change]].
*** During the film, it is explained that Darkseid attacked Earth looking for the Anti-Life Equation, but was beaten and retreated for several thousand years. Some viewers were confused why Darkseid waited so long to return, and why Steppenwolf is shocked that Earth has the Anti-Life Equation when on paper they should know already. Snyder explained in a statement after the movies release that when Darkseid retreated back to Apokolips, a coup was launched to overthrow him, and so he became focused on dealing with that while taking the time to recover from his wounds. By the time it was done, he had killed everyone who knew and had essentially forgotten. The issue is that this doesn't really make sense; how did he just forget when something should logically still exist that informs him Earth has the Anti-Life Equitation. Even if he doesn't, he and Steppenwolf are able to learn Earth has Mother Boxes, so they obviously have ways of keeping tabs on the planet even if if it through their own Mother Boxes, and yet Darkseid somehow forgets for thousands of years which planet he lost on, when the movie itself makes a big deal about Earth being "the one that fought back", meaning that even if Darkseid forgot, killed everyone who knew, and had no way of tracking or finding Earth again, somehow his failure is still remember enough that Steppenwolf can figure out that Earth is said location.



* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise why would holy water and exorcism work on Pazuzu? So, if they both exist in the films' universe, is it a case of AllMythsAreTrue? If so, why don't we see any other gods? And why would a Mesopotamian god be working for the Christian Satan in the first place? This may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed in the film.
* ''Film/FantasticBeastsTheCrimesOfGrindelwald'' explains that Jacob didn't lose his memories from the mass-LaserGuidedAmnesia spell at the end of [[Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem the prior film]] because the spell only erased bad memories. The problem with this is threefold: first, Jacob clearly ''had'' lost his memory from the spell in the prior film, so unless he somehow was able to regain them over time, it doesn't make sense. Secondly; why is this the only time in the series that memory charms have worked like this when they are supposed to last a person's lifetime and withstand even outside influence? In fact, it's shown in the series that undoing a memory charm is extremely difficult, and attempting to undo one can actively cause psychological damage. Lastly; doesn't that nullify the whole point of the charm? Surely, there would be quite a few Muggles among the hundreds who saw the incident, realized that magic is real, and didn't consider it a bad memory--and if that's the case, why bother with the charm in the first place? Worse, Jacob said this under a charm himself, so the film could have played this as him [[UnreliableExpositor coming up with a bad lie as directed by Queenie]], or by Queenie having undone it herself, but instead the film confirms that he really did regain his memories.

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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise why would holy water and exorcism work shouldn't on Pazuzu? Pazuzu. So, if they both exist in the films' universe, is it should be a case of AllMythsAreTrue? If so, why don't AllMythsAreTrue, yet we never see any other gods? And why would gods. Besides, a Mesopotamian god has no logical reason to be working for the Christian Satan in the first place? place. This may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed in the film.
* ''Film/FantasticBeastsTheCrimesOfGrindelwald'' explains that Jacob didn't lose his memories from the mass-LaserGuidedAmnesia spell at the end of [[Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem the prior film]] because the spell only erased bad memories. The problem with this is threefold: first, Jacob clearly ''had'' lost his memory from the spell in the prior film, so unless he somehow was able to regain them over time, it doesn't make sense. Secondly; why is Secondly, this is the only time in the series that memory charms have worked work like this when they are supposed to last a person's lifetime and withstand even outside influence? influence. In fact, it's shown in the series that undoing a memory charm is extremely difficult, and attempting to undo one can actively cause psychological damage. Lastly; doesn't that nullify Lastly, this nullifies the whole point part of the charm? charm. Surely, there would be quite a few Muggles among the hundreds who saw the incident, realized that magic is real, and didn't consider it a bad memory--and if that's the case, why no one should bother with the charm in the first place? place. Worse, Jacob said says this under a charm himself, so the film could have played this as him [[UnreliableExpositor coming up with a bad lie as directed by Queenie]], or by Queenie having undone it herself, but instead the film confirms that he really did regain his memories.



** Why would Hanka Robotics just kidnap someone they found on the street to experiment with? The film outright shows they're a large company with contracts with the military and the police, meaning they had access to plenty of potential candidates (not to mention a horde of dead bodies they could use to perfect their process).
** Why would [[spoiler:the Major]] be so ambivalent about [[spoiler:finding out her entire life is a lie?]] This also extends to the [[spoiler:villain Kuze, ''a.k.a.'' Hideo, who has a similar reaction despite the toll that Hanka's experiments took on him]].
** Why is [[spoiler:Mrs. Kusanagi]] so accepting of [[spoiler:being told that she no longer needs to come to her daughter's grave after the Major tells her the truth]]?
** Even her title of "the Major" makes no sense in light of this. [[spoiler: In the original manga and animated adaptations, Motoko is a military veteran who served in at least ''two'' World Wars and a few other operations besides, depending on the adaptation. Additionally, her nickname is just that; a nickname, with nobody knowing her actual rank. But as "Mira Killian" is never stated to be a military veteran, nor was she given any false memories of being such, why do people refer to her as "the Major"? And for that matter, if this is her ''actual'' rank, why didn't her absurdly rapid promotion to a high-level officer rank raise red flags earlier with anyone in the government, especially the ProperlyParanoid Aramaki?]]

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** Why would Hanka Robotics just has no reason to kidnap someone they found on people off the street to experiment with? with. The film outright shows they're a large company with contracts with the military and the police, meaning they had access to plenty of potential candidates (not to mention (and a horde of dead bodies they could use to perfect their process).
** Why would [[spoiler:the [[spoiler:The Major]] be so is awfully ambivalent about [[spoiler:finding out her entire life is a lie?]] lie]]. This also extends to the [[spoiler:villain Kuze, ''a.k.a.'' Hideo, who has a similar reaction despite the toll that Hanka's experiments took on him]].
** Why is [[spoiler:Mrs. Kusanagi]] so accepting of [[spoiler:being told just accepts the fact that she [[spoiler:she no longer needs to come to her daughter's grave after the Major tells her the truth]]?
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** Even her title of "the Major" makes no sense in light of this. [[spoiler: In the original manga and animated adaptations, Motoko is a military veteran who served in at least ''two'' World Wars and a few other operations besides, depending on the adaptation. Additionally, her nickname is just that; a nickname, with nobody knowing her actual rank. But as "Mira Killian" is never stated to be a military veteran, nor was is she given any false memories of being such, why do but people still refer to her as "the Major"? Major." And for that matter, if this is her ''actual'' rank, why didn't her absurdly rapid promotion to a high-level officer rank raise should have raised red flags earlier with anyone in the government, especially the ProperlyParanoid Aramaki?]]Aramaki.]]



** ''Film/HalloweenII1981'' famously introduced the revelation that Laurie Strode is Michael Myers' long-lost younger sister, ostensibly to explain why Michael returned to his hometown after escaping from Smith's Grove Sanitarium in [[Film/Halloween1978 the original film]]. But if you actually watch the first movie with this in mind, it ''raises'' more questions than it answers. First and foremost: if Michael returned home specifically to kill his sister, then why did he waste time and effort [[FinalGirl murdering all of her friends]] before making a move on her? [[note]]While it's easy to believe that Michael would be evil enough to murder his sister's friends, this would presumably increase the risk of him getting apprehended or killed by the authorities before he could kill the person he ''really'' wanted to kill. So why didn't he just target Laurie first?[[/note]] Secondly: according to the series' official timeline, Laurie would have been around two years old when Michael killed his older sister Judith. So if Michael really wanted to kill his younger sister so badly, why didn't he just do it when she was a helpless toddler? Fans have come up with a few theories for this one however, ranging from Michael not finding any sport in killing a helpless baby (he does it once or twice elsewhere in the franchise), or Laurie not being in the house at the time and perhaps with her parents or another older, more responsible babysitter.

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** ''Film/HalloweenII1981'' famously introduced the revelation that Laurie Strode is Michael Myers' long-lost younger sister, ostensibly to explain why Michael returned to his hometown after escaping from Smith's Grove Sanitarium in [[Film/Halloween1978 the original film]]. But if you actually watch the first movie with this in mind, it ''raises'' ''creates'' more questions plot holes than it answers. fixes. First and foremost: if Michael returned returns home specifically to kill his sister, then why did yet he waste wastes time and effort [[FinalGirl murdering all of her friends]] before making a move on her? her. [[note]]While it's easy to believe that Michael would be evil enough to murder his sister's friends, this would presumably increase the risk of him getting apprehended or killed by the authorities before he could kill the person he ''really'' wanted to kill. So why didn't kill, so he really should have just target targeted Laurie first?[[/note]] first.[[/note]] Secondly: according to the series' official timeline, Laurie would have been around two years old when Michael killed his older sister Judith. So if Michael really wanted to kill his younger sister so badly, why didn't he just do should have done it when she was a helpless toddler? toddler. Fans have come up with a few theories for this one however, ranging from Michael not finding any sport in killing a helpless baby (he does it once or twice elsewhere in the franchise), or Laurie not being in the house at the time and perhaps with her parents or another older, more responsible babysitter.



* ''Film/HarryPotter'': The movies removed a two-way mirror Sirius gave to Harry, which created a glaring plot hole in ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Part 1'', where Harry (who's imprisoned in Malfoy Manor's cellar at the time) inexplicably taking a piece of broken glass that was never before established out of his sock and asking it for help, which somehow summons Dobby. ''Part 2'' tries to patch up this plot hole by showing that the shard was a piece of a mirror Aberforth Dumbledore purchased from Mundungus Fletcher, but not only does this fail to answer some crucial questions (How did Harry get the shard in the first place? Why did he decide to keep it on him? Why did he think asking it for help would accomplish anything?), it also raises the question of why Aberforth would buy a broken mirror and keep it in his house.

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* ''Film/HarryPotter'': The movies removed a two-way mirror Sirius gave to Harry, which created a glaring plot hole in ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Part 1'', where Harry (who's imprisoned in Malfoy Manor's cellar at the time) inexplicably taking a piece of broken glass that was never before established out of his sock and asking it for help, which somehow summons Dobby. ''Part 2'' tries to patch up this plot hole by showing that the shard was a piece of a mirror Aberforth Dumbledore purchased from Mundungus Fletcher, but not only does this fail to answer some crucial questions (How did (how Harry get got the shard in the first place? Why did place, why he decide decided to keep it on him? Why did him, why he think thought asking it for help would accomplish anything?), anything), it also raises the question of why Aberforth would buy a broken mirror and keep it in his house.



*** When [[Creator/ChristopherLambert Connor MacLeod]] asks [[Creator/SeanConnery Ramirez]] why certain people are immortal and others aren't, why does the latter say, "Why does the sun come up?" if he already knew that he was part of / descended from a race of aliens?
*** So aliens have the power to exile people to other planets, grant immortality to them, and then make rules concerning holy ground and being "Only One"?
*** Why would aliens care about human religions to begin with?
*** If the BigBad is worried about being overthrown, why doesn't he move his base of operations to Earth? There, he could be immortal, and he could banish any upstarts to places where they'd die of old age.
*** Why would you give political exiles the chance to obtain the "Prize" -- ''i.e.'', to become a PhysicalGod?

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*** When [[Creator/ChristopherLambert Connor MacLeod]] asks [[Creator/SeanConnery Ramirez]] why certain people are immortal and others aren't, why does the latter say, shouldn't have said "Why does the sun come up?" if he already knew that he was part of / descended from a race of aliens?
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*** So Apparently, aliens have the power to exile people to other planets, grant immortality to them, and then make rules concerning holy ground and being "Only One"?
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*** Why would aliens Aliens shouldn't care this much about human religions to begin with?
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*** If the BigBad is worried about being overthrown, why doesn't he move could have just moved his base of operations to Earth? There, Earth, where he could be immortal, immortal and he could banish any upstarts to places where they'd die of old age.
*** Why There is no reason why anyone would you give political exiles the chance to obtain the "Prize" -- ''i.e.'', to become a PhysicalGod?PhysicalGod.



*** Were the Kurgan and the other immortals seen in the first film political exiles as well?
*** The alien explanation was quickly {{retcon}}ned into CanonDiscontinuity, but in a way that raised further questions. Why would the villain, who can see into the future, not realize that Connor posed no threat to him (other than that [[AnthropicPrinciple there would be no movie otherwise]])? One of his minions even points this out to him, only to be ignored. Later installments just gave up and ignore ''Highlander II'' outright.
** In ''Film/HighlanderEndgame'', a group of Immortals lives in voluntary stasis in the "Sanctuary", which is located in a large cathedral -- until they are murdered by an Immortal named Kell. In the original theatrical version, the Sanctuary is referred to as being holy ground. This annoyed fans of the series, as it had been established that Immortals are not allowed to kill one another on holy ground, and even the worst villains followed this rule. So the line was excised from the DVD version. But this didn't solve the problem; if it's not holy ground, then how can it be in a large cathedral? Why would the Immortals willingly go into stasis in an unsafe place? Why would the Watchers establish the Sanctuary in such a place?

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*** Were It's never explained whether the Kurgan and the other immortals seen in the first film were political exiles as well?
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*** The alien explanation was quickly {{retcon}}ned into CanonDiscontinuity, but in a way that raised created further questions. Why would the villain, who plotholes. The villain can see into the future, not yet he doesn't realize that Connor posed poses no threat to him (other than that [[AnthropicPrinciple there would be no movie otherwise]])? otherwise]]). One of his minions even points this out to him, only to be ignored. Later installments just gave up and ignore ''Highlander II'' outright.
** In ''Film/HighlanderEndgame'', a group of Immortals lives in voluntary stasis in the "Sanctuary", which is located in a large cathedral -- until they are murdered by an Immortal named Kell. In the original theatrical version, the Sanctuary is referred to as being holy ground. This annoyed fans of the series, as it had been established that Immortals are not allowed to kill one another on holy ground, and even the worst villains followed this rule. So the line was excised from the DVD version. But this didn't solve the problem; if it's not on holy ground, then how can it be yet it's in a large cathedral? Why would the cathedral. The Immortals have no reason to willingly go into stasis in an unsafe place? Why would place, and the Watchers have no reason to establish the Sanctuary in such a place?place.



* ''Film/TheLastAirbender'': In the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the original series]], the Earthbenders were imprisoned on an abandoned oil rig by the Fire Nation. The idea was that the rig is made of metal and out at sea, making it impossible (at the time) to do any earthbending, therefore, making it nigh-impossible for any prisoners to escape. In the film, the oil rig is replaced by a quarry, a place surrounded by earth, yet non of the Earthbenders have escaped. The closest thing we have to an "explanation" is that, the Earthbenders have been imprisoned for so long, their spirits have been broken, and had lost the will to fight back, until Aang gives his RousingSpeech. The problem is that in order for their spirits to be broken, they would have had to have had no obvious means of, or no successful attempts at escaping in the first place. There's no way they could have just given up hope seconds after being tossed in prison, without at least some attempts to fight back and break out. Why not just use their earthbending the first moment they get?
* ''Film/TheMatrixReloaded'' rather infamously ends with Neo using his powers to short out two Sentinel robots in the real world (even though his powers supposedly only work inside the Matrix), leaving most of the audience scratching their heads. In [[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions the next movie]], the Oracle takes some time to explain what happened in that scene: because Neo [[UnwittingPawn actually got his powers from the Machines]], he has an empathic connection to the Machines' central computing core "The Source". But even if Neo has an empathic connection to the Source, he would presumably ''still'' need to have some sort of superhuman extrasensory abilities in order to use that connection to forcibly shut Machines down. And if anything, the fact that Neo got his abilities from the Machines just makes it ''less'' plausible that he could use those abilities to fry Sentinels. After all: why would the Machines give their UnwittingPawn the ability to destroy their foot-soldiers just by looking at them really hard?

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* ''Film/TheLastAirbender'': In the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the original series]], the Earthbenders were imprisoned on an abandoned oil rig by the Fire Nation. The idea was that the rig is made of metal and out at sea, making it impossible (at the time) to do any earthbending, therefore, making it nigh-impossible for any prisoners to escape. In the film, the oil rig is replaced by a quarry, a place surrounded by earth, yet non of the Earthbenders have escaped. The closest thing we have to an "explanation" is that, that the Earthbenders have been imprisoned for so long, their spirits have been broken, were broken and had they've lost the will to fight back, until something they only regain when Aang gives his RousingSpeech. The problem is that in order for their spirits to be broken, they would have had to have had no obvious means of, or no successful attempts at at, escaping in the first place. There's no way they could have just given up hope seconds after being tossed in prison, without at least some attempts to fight back and break out. Why not Surely they could have just use used their earthbending the first moment they get?
got.
* ''Film/TheMatrixReloaded'' rather infamously ends with Neo using his powers to short out two Sentinel robots in the real world (even though his powers supposedly only work inside the Matrix), leaving most of the audience scratching their heads. In [[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions the next movie]], the Oracle takes some time to explain what happened in that scene: because Neo [[UnwittingPawn actually got his powers from the Machines]], he has an empathic connection to the Machines' central computing core "The Source". But even if Neo has an empathic connection to the Source, he would presumably ''still'' need to have some sort of superhuman extrasensory abilities in order to use that connection to forcibly shut Machines down. And if anything, the fact that Neo got his abilities from the Machines just makes it ''less'' plausible that he could use those abilities to fry Sentinels. After all: why all, this would mean the Machines give gave their UnwittingPawn the ability to destroy their foot-soldiers just by looking at them really hard?hard.



* ''Film/PacificRimUprising'' explains the purpose of the {{Kaiju}} arriving on Earth is that they want to submerge themselves in the Ring of Fire because their exotic matter blood will trigger a mass volcanic eruption that will terraform the Earth. This raises some important questions retroactively:
** Why they didn't immediately dunk themselves into a remote volcano when they first appeared in modern times instead of mindlessly attacking major cities nowhere near volcanoes or why they didn't do this when they appeared during the Cretaceous Period (since the geology/geography of the Earth hasn't changed much since then).
** Why didn't they open an inter-dimensional Breach closer to a volcano instead of the middle of the Pacific Ocean, especially the movie shows it ''is'' possible to open a portal anywhere in the world.
** Apparently this was an obvious pattern right from the very first incursion, which ends up begging the question how nobody noticed the Kaiju were doing this until one was literally at the base of Mt. Fuji on the eleventh hour, since dozens of Kaiju had appeared over a period of decades at this point.
* ''[[Film/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters]]'' introduces one regarding the Mist, a magical effect that in the books was omnipresent and caused most mortal humans to see mythological beings, creatures, objects, and sites as something mundane, or not see it at all. The first film had not brought it up whatsoever, leaving it hard to understand how the Greek gods want to keep a low profile in the modern day yet the very first scene of the film has Poseidon rise out of the sea in his giant god form and make eye contact with a fisherman before taking human form. ''Sea of Monsters'' introduces the Mist as a sprayed-on product similar to a cologne, and mentions that it's very hard to get. In addition to bringing up the question of how many bottles of this stuff Poseidon would need to hide himself in the aforementioned scene, ''Sea of Monsters'' has a scene shortly after the introduction of the Mist in which a human in a coffee shop cannot see that the barista has eight arms. If the Mist is as hard to get as the movie just said it is, how can a random barista apparently afford to use it all day every day?

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* ''Film/PacificRimUprising'' explains the purpose of the {{Kaiju}} arriving on Earth is that they want to submerge themselves in the Ring of Fire because their exotic matter blood will trigger a mass volcanic eruption that will terraform the Earth. This raises creates some important questions large plot holes retroactively:
** Why they didn't The kaiju should have immediately dunk dunked themselves into a remote volcano when they first appeared in modern times instead of mindlessly attacking major cities nowhere near volcanoes or why they volcanoes. They also didn't do this when they appeared during the Cretaceous Period (since the geology/geography of the Earth hasn't changed much since then).
** Why didn't The movie shows it ''is'' possible to open a portal anywhere in the world, so they open could have opened an inter-dimensional Breach closer to a volcano instead of the middle of the Pacific Ocean, especially the movie shows it ''is'' possible to open a portal anywhere in the world.
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** Apparently this was an obvious pattern right from the very first incursion, which ends up begging the question how nobody noticed the Kaiju were doing this until one was literally at the base of Mt. Fuji on the eleventh hour, since dozens of Kaiju had appeared over a period of decades at this point.
* ''[[Film/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters]]'' introduces one regarding the Mist, a magical effect that in the books was omnipresent and caused most mortal humans to see mythological beings, creatures, objects, and sites as something mundane, or not see it at all. The first film had not brought it up whatsoever, leaving it hard to understand how the Greek gods want to keep a low profile in the modern day yet the very first scene of the film has Poseidon rise out of the sea in his giant god form and make eye contact with a fisherman before taking human form. ''Sea of Monsters'' introduces the Mist as a sprayed-on product similar to a cologne, and mentions that it's very hard to get. In addition to bringing up the question of how many bottles of this stuff Poseidon would need to hide himself in the aforementioned scene, ''Sea of Monsters'' has a scene shortly after the introduction of the Mist in which a human in a coffee shop cannot see that the barista has eight arms. If The movie just told us that the Mist is as incredibly hard to get as the movie just said it is, how can a your hands on, yet this random barista can apparently afford to use it all day every day?day.



** How the hell did Fireblaster get away with [[spoiler:using a cheat code in a tournament]], with thousands of people watching his every move?
** [[spoiler:''If'' there was a cheat code for super-speed in Pac-Man (there isn't), wouldn't it give ''Pac-Man'' super speed, not his enemies?]][[note]]Pac-Man did have DIP switches that could indeed do both. But those are physical switches inside the cabinet, which Fireblaster would have an even harder time getting to.[[/note]]
** Why did the scientists who built the cars program them with [[spoiler:cheat codes]]? How did Fireblaster even [[spoiler:enter a cheat code into a ''car''?]] It is shown that he [[spoiler:used the gear shift]], but how this worked was never explained.
** And most egregiously, how exactly do [[spoiler:the cheat codes for super-speed]] in a video game make a ''real'' car go faster?

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** How the hell did Fireblaster get ''somehow'' gets away with [[spoiler:using a cheat code in a tournament]], with thousands of people watching his every move?
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** [[spoiler:''If'' ''If'' there was a [[spoiler:a cheat code for super-speed in Pac-Man ''Pac-Man'' (there isn't), wouldn't isn't)]], it give would logically [[spoiler:give ''Pac-Man'' super speed, not his enemies?]][[note]]Pac-Man did enemies.]][[note]]''Pac-Man'' does have DIP switches that could can indeed do both. But those are physical switches inside the cabinet, which Fireblaster would have an even harder time getting to.[[/note]]
** Why did It's never explained why the scientists who built the cars would program them with [[spoiler:cheat codes]]? How did codes]], nor how Fireblaster even [[spoiler:enter [[spoiler:entered a cheat code into a ''car''?]] ''car''.]] It is shown that he [[spoiler:used the gear shift]], but how this worked was never explained.
** And most egregiously, how exactly do [[spoiler:the [[spoiler:a cheat codes code for super-speed]] in a video game shouldn't make a ''real'' car go faster?faster.



* In ''Film/SpiderMan3'', Harry Osborn undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and runs off to help Peter fight Sandman and Venom, when his butler tells him that he examined Norman's corpse and noticed the wound came from his own glider -- meaning he died by his own hand, and Spider-Man didn't kill him. (Not that this is conclusive evidence either way -- Spider-Man could theoretically have killed him with his own glider -- but let's roll with that for now.) So why didn't he tell him this in an earlier film -- when he could have stopped him from pursuing his self-destructive vendetta against Spider-Man? WordOfGod claimed that the butler was actually a hallucination representing Harry's "good side", meaning Harry knew all along but couldn't face the facts. However, there's a scene earlier in the movie where Harry talks to the butler in Peter's presence, and Peter doesn't react as if his friend was talking to the wall. Not to mention that he also appeared in the previous two films. So then is the butler real and just occasionally appears to Harry as a vision? It's more complicated than it needs to be.

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* In ''Film/SpiderMan3'', Harry Osborn undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and runs off to help Peter fight Sandman and Venom, when his butler tells him that he examined Norman's corpse and noticed the wound came from his own glider -- meaning he died by his own hand, and Spider-Man didn't kill him. (Not that this is conclusive evidence either way -- Spider-Man could theoretically have killed him with his own glider -- but let's roll with that for now.) So No explanation is given for why he didn't he tell him this in an earlier film -- when he could have stopped him from pursuing his self-destructive vendetta against Spider-Man? Spider-Man. WordOfGod claimed that the butler was actually a hallucination representing Harry's "good side", meaning Harry knew all along but couldn't face the facts. However, there's a scene earlier in the movie where Harry talks to the butler in Peter's presence, and Peter doesn't react as if his friend was talking to the wall. Not to mention that he He also appeared in the previous two films. So then is films, implying the butler is real and just occasionally appears to Harry as a vision? vision. It's more complicated than it needs to be.



* In ''Film/SupermanII'' Superman reveals to Lois his identity as Clark. This ends up being a bad idea as it changes their relationship for the worse (mainly because she now worries about him all the time). So they fix this by having him cause her LaserGuidedAmnesia with a kiss, which he does again in the fourth film when she accidentally finds out his identity. Aside from coming across as an AssPull and raising questions of how such a power even works, it also counts as a voodoo shark, as you have to wonder [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hXpc4n9cc why he doesn't just try smooching the villains and make them forget their evil plans?]] (Superman is traditionally depicted as straight, but him kissing a man to save the world is hardly out of character. More out of character but debatable: Superman committing even the minor sexual assault of kissing someone against their will even to end the plans of his major villains.)[[note]] You'd think if beating the crap out of villains (an act which is normally considered aggravated assault or even attempted murder) is justified, just kissing them would be ok, but who knows [[/note]]
* ''Film/SupermanIVTheQuestForPeace'' similarly has Superman [[AssPull suddenly use a new power you'd think he'd have used before]]: When Nuclear Man blows a hole in the Great Wall Of China, Superman just sort of stares at the wall and it basically magically rebuilds itself. Some have tried to HandWave this as him using telekinesis, but this doesn't really work as the bricks of the wall don't reform and float into place but basically just magically re-appear, complete with a silly noise. Which raises the obvious question of why he doesn't just do this every time a villain ravages a city or otherwise destroys something important, as, to name just one benefit, it would likely save millions in repair costs. (Indeed, the very same movie has the [[MonumentalDamage Statue of Liberty ripped off its base]] at one point. While Superman saves it and puts it back, it would still need to be reattached to the pedastal somehow. Why didn't he deem ''that'' worth using his repair vision on?)

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* In ''Film/SupermanII'' Superman reveals to Lois his identity as Clark. This ends up being a bad idea as it changes their relationship for the worse (mainly because she now worries about him all the time). So they fix this by having him cause her LaserGuidedAmnesia with a kiss, which he does again in the fourth film when she accidentally finds out his identity. Aside from coming across as an AssPull and raising questions of how such a power even works, it also counts as a voodoo shark, as you have to wonder [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hXpc4n9cc why he doesn't just try smooching the villains and make them forget their evil plans?]] plans]]. (Superman is traditionally depicted as straight, but him kissing a man to save the world is hardly out of character. More out of character but debatable: Superman committing even the minor sexual assault of kissing someone against their will even to end the plans of his major villains.)[[note]] You'd think if beating the crap out of villains (an act which is normally considered aggravated assault or even attempted murder) is justified, just kissing them would be ok, OK, but who knows knows.[[/note]]
* ''Film/SupermanIVTheQuestForPeace'' similarly has Superman [[AssPull suddenly use a new power you'd think he'd have used before]]: When Nuclear Man blows a hole in the Great Wall Of China, Superman just sort of stares at the wall and it basically magically rebuilds itself. Some have tried to HandWave this as him using telekinesis, but this doesn't really work as the bricks of the wall don't reform and float into place but basically just magically re-appear, fade back into existence, complete with a silly noise. Which raises the obvious question of why he doesn't just do this every time a villain ravages a city or otherwise destroys something important, as, to name just one benefit, it would likely save millions in repair costs. (Indeed, the very same movie has the [[MonumentalDamage Statue of Liberty ripped off its base]] at one point. While Superman saves it and puts it back, it would still need to be reattached to the pedastal somehow. Why didn't pedestal somehow, yet he apparently doesn't deem ''that'' this worth using his repair vision on?)on.)



* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise has a rule for time travel that inorganic matter can't go back unless it's covered in living tissue, which is the reason why you CantTakeAnythingWithYou. However, ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' seemingly broke this rule with the T-1000, which is made of "mimetic polyalloy" (basically, liquid metal that can change shape) and yet it can go back just fine. The novelization tried to solve this by claiming that the T-1000 was sent back with a "flesh sac" that worked similarly to the T-800's skin but was discarded upon arrival. This does plug the hole, but in the process, kind of nullifies the original rule--now Skynet ''can'' send back all-inorganic objects if it bothers to build a good carrying case for them, but for some reason it's content to have its assassins wasting valuable time robbing gun stores and policemen instead of just sending them back with weapons. Later supplementary material gives a somewhat shakier but less plotholey reason--that is, the T-1000's liquid metal is pretty good at pretending to be organic.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise has a rule for time travel that inorganic matter can't go back unless it's covered in living tissue, which is the reason why you CantTakeAnythingWithYou. However, ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' seemingly broke this rule with the T-1000, which is made of "mimetic polyalloy" (basically, liquid (liquid metal that can change shape) and yet it can go back just fine. The novelization tried to solve this by claiming that the T-1000 was sent back with a "flesh sac" that worked similarly to the T-800's skin but was discarded upon arrival. This does plug the hole, but in the process, kind of nullifies the original rule--now Skynet ''can'' send back all-inorganic objects if it bothers to build a good carrying case for them, but for some reason it's content to have its assassins wasting valuable time robbing gun stores and policemen instead of just sending them back with weapons. Later supplementary material gives a somewhat shakier but less plotholey reason--that is, the T-1000's liquid metal is pretty good at pretending to be organic.
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* ''Film/TheLastAirbender'': In the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the original series]], the Earthbenders were imprisoned on an abandoned oil rig by the Fire Nation. The idea was that the rig is made of metal and out at sea, making it impossible (at the time) to do any earthbending, therefore, making it nigh-impossible for any prisoners to escape. In the film, the oil rig is replaced by a quarry, a place surrounded by earth, yet non of the Earthbenders have escaped. The closest thing we have to an "explanation" is that, the Earthbenders have been imprisoned for so long, their spirits have been broken, and had lost the will to fight back, until Aang gives his RousingSpeech. The problem is that in order for their spirits to be broken, they would have had to have had no obvious means of, or no successful attempts at escaping in the first place. There's no way they could have just given up hope seconds after being tossed in prison, without at least some attempts to fight back and break out. Why not just use their earthbending the first moment they get?
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*** The accusations are reinforced by a witness, who testifies and then disappears from the movie. In the extended edition, it's revealed that Luthor blackmailed her into doing it, but then she has a change of heart and comes clean to a Senator. But if so, why didn't Luthor silence her right away, before she could confess? And why doesn't the Senator immediately take her into protected custody for when Luthor eventually ''does'' go after her? Also, if the senator believes her, why does she act like Superman is still guilty in the meeting when she should now think Superman is being framed?

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*** The accusations are reinforced by a witness, who testifies and then disappears from the movie. In the extended edition, it's revealed that Luthor blackmailed her into doing it, but then she has a change of heart and comes clean to a Senator. But if so, why didn't Luthor silence her right away, before she could confess? And why doesn't the Senator immediately take her into protected custody for when Luthor eventually ''does'' go after her? Also, if the senator believes her, why does she seem to act like Superman is still guilty in the meeting hearing when she should now think Superman is being framed?
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*** During the film, it is explained that Darkseid attacked Earth looking for the Anti-Life Equation, but was beaten and retreated for several thousand years. Some viewers were confused why Darkseid waited so long to return, and why Steppenwolf is shocked that Earth has the Anti-Life Equation when on paper they should know already. Snyder explained in a statement after the movies release that when Darkseid retreated back to Apokolips, a coup was launched to overthrow him, and so he became focused on dealing with that while taking the time to recover from his wounds. By the time it was done, he had killed everyone he knew and had essentially forgotten. The issue is that this doesn't really make sense; how did he just forget when something should logically still exist that informs him Earth has the Anti-Life Equitation. Even if he doesn't, he and Steppenwolf are able to learn Earth has Mother Boxes, so they obviously have ways of keeping tabs on the planet even if if it through their own Mother Boxes, and yet Darkseid somehow forgets for thousands of years which planet he lost on, when the movie itself makes a big deal about Earth being "the one that fought back", meaning that even if Darkseid forgot, killed everyone who knew, and had no way of tracking or finding Earth again, somehow his failure is still remember enough that Steppenwolf can figure out that Earth is said location.

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*** During the film, it is explained that Darkseid attacked Earth looking for the Anti-Life Equation, but was beaten and retreated for several thousand years. Some viewers were confused why Darkseid waited so long to return, and why Steppenwolf is shocked that Earth has the Anti-Life Equation when on paper they should know already. Snyder explained in a statement after the movies release that when Darkseid retreated back to Apokolips, a coup was launched to overthrow him, and so he became focused on dealing with that while taking the time to recover from his wounds. By the time it was done, he had killed everyone he who knew and had essentially forgotten. The issue is that this doesn't really make sense; how did he just forget when something should logically still exist that informs him Earth has the Anti-Life Equitation. Even if he doesn't, he and Steppenwolf are able to learn Earth has Mother Boxes, so they obviously have ways of keeping tabs on the planet even if if it through their own Mother Boxes, and yet Darkseid somehow forgets for thousands of years which planet he lost on, when the movie itself makes a big deal about Earth being "the one that fought back", meaning that even if Darkseid forgot, killed everyone who knew, and had no way of tracking or finding Earth again, somehow his failure is still remember enough that Steppenwolf can figure out that Earth is said location.
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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise why would holy water and exorcism work on Pazuzu? So, if they both exist in the films' universe, is it a case of AllMythsAreTrue? If so, why don't we see any other gods? And why would a Mesopotamian god be working for the Christian Satan in the first place? This may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed.

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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise why would holy water and exorcism work on Pazuzu? So, if they both exist in the films' universe, is it a case of AllMythsAreTrue? If so, why don't we see any other gods? And why would a Mesopotamian god be working for the Christian Satan in the first place? This may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed.discussed in the film.
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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise why would holy water and exorcism work on Pazuzu? So, if they both exist in the films' universe, is it a case of AllMythsAreTrue? If so, why don't we see any other gods? And why would a Mesopotamian god be working for the Christian Satan in the first place?
** This would be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates.

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* ''Film/TheExorcist'': In the original film the exact identity of the being possessing Regan is deliberately kept vague: at one point it claims to be the Devil himself, while other times it's implied there are ''multiple'' demons inside her. The [[Film/ExorcistIITheHeretic sequel]] openly declared the demon to be Pazuzu, an evil god from Mesopotamian mythology associated with plagues and vermin. [[note]] The original novel ''does'' mention Pazuzu, and much visual emphasis is placed on Father Merrin's discovery of a statue of Pazuzu in Iraq at the beginning, but the script never says outright that Pazuzu is the one possessing her. [[/note]] This raises a bunch of theological questions, as the first film strongly implies the Judeo-Christan god exists, as otherwise why would holy water and exorcism work on Pazuzu? So, if they both exist in the films' universe, is it a case of AllMythsAreTrue? If so, why don't we see any other gods? And why would a Mesopotamian god be working for the Christian Satan in the first place?
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place? This would may be because, as Christianity is monotheistic, if we assume it to be true, any other "gods" shown to exist, particularly evil ones such as Pazuzu, are actually demons and thus Satan's subordinates.subordinates. However, this isn't definitively discussed.
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* ''Film/HappyDeathDay2U'' revealed that the GroundHogDayLoop main character Tree experienced in ''Film/HappyDeathDay'' was the result of a failed science experiment in the lab of the college she goes to. But all that does is bring up the question of why the experiment is only affecting her, especially since she has no connection to the lab, why the loop resets upon her death, and what the experiment is suppose to do normally.

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* ''Film/HappyDeathDay2U'' revealed that the GroundHogDayLoop GroundhogDayLoop main character Tree experienced in ''Film/HappyDeathDay'' was the result of a failed science experiment in the lab of the college she goes to. But all that does is bring up the question of why the experiment is only affecting her, especially since she has no connection to the lab, why the loop resets upon her death, and what the experiment is suppose to do normally.

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