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* StockAudioClip: Jane screaming "Help me! Help!" followed by John shouting "Run, Jane, run!" is used three times: when the chase starts, during the GayOption, and midway through the chase itself.
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* MsFanservice: Jane. She has rather large breasts, and her body gets shown off quite bit in the opening ShowerScene, as well as when she turns into a {{dominatrix}} after picking the "She'll do anything to get the job" option. She also spends quite a bit of screentime wearing just a bra, skirt, and heels.

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* MsFanservice: Jane. She has rather large breasts, and her body gets shown off quite bit in the opening ShowerScene, as well as when she turns into a {{dominatrix}} after picking the "She'll do anything to get the job" option. She also spends quite a bit of screentime wearing just a bra, skirt, and heels. This is even invoked in the 3DO opening (which has Jane switch to her undergarments midway through, even zooming in on her breasts at one point) and in one of the option screens in said version (which recommends having Jane strip for Thresher if the player enjoyed the shower scene).
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** During the scene where Jane is being chased by Thresher, she's wearing nothing but a bra and a skirt. When the chase goes outside, though, she's suddenly fully clothed. Then, later in the same scene, her shirt comes off ''again''.
** Earlier, she suddenly switches from a black dress to her undergarments (a bra, panties, garter, and stockings) halfway through the opening FMV.

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** During the scene where Jane is being chased by Thresher, she's wearing nothing but a bra and a skirt. When the chase goes outside, though, she's suddenly fully clothed. Then, later in the same scene, her shirt blazer comes off ''again''.
** Earlier, she suddenly switches from a black dress to her undergarments (a bra, panties, garter, garters, and stockings) halfway through the opening FMV.
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* {{Leitmotif}}: Many of Harry Armis' scenes are accompanied by a military-like horn theme.

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* {{Leitmotif}}: Many of Harry Armis' scenes are accompanied by a military-like horn theme or a wacky, upbeat theme.
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--->'''Jane's Dad:''' That bitch of a mother from the last scene just told her son to have kids.

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--->'''Jane's -->'''Jane's Dad:''' That bitch of a mother from the last scene just told her son to have kids.



--->'''Michael Anderson:''' I'm gonna keep that in the script!

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--->'''Michael -->'''Michael Anderson:''' I'm gonna keep that in the script!

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** Jane strips herself down to her BlackBraAndPanties while wearing [[HighClassGloves black opera gloves]]. And not only that, but she also takes out a WhipOfDominance and KinkyCuffs to give her a DressedLikeADominatrix vibe.

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** In the "She'll do anything to get the job??!!" option, Jane strips herself down to her BlackBraAndPanties while wearing [[HighClassGloves black opera gloves]]. And not only that, but she also takes out a WhipOfDominance and KinkyCuffs to give her a DressedLikeADominatrix vibe.



--->'''Jane's dad:''' That bitch of a mother from the last scene just told her son to have kids.
** The game even keeps in an audio outtake of the actor playing John flubbing one of his lines, and the cast and crew commenting on it.

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--->'''Jane's dad:''' Dad:''' That bitch of a mother from the last scene just told her son to have kids.
** The game even keeps in an audio outtake of the actor playing John Edward J. Fasulo (John) flubbing one of his lines, and the cast and crew commenting on it.it.
--->'''Michael Anderson:''' I'm gonna keep that in the script!
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--->'''Harry Armis:''' Oh, now you done it! You ''really'' done it! How could you make Jane into such a perverted young thing?! Is this what you want?! I've guided [[BlatantLies a lot of people]] through this story, but I've never seen such a disgusting series of plot choices in my life!

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--->'''Harry Armis:''' Oh, now you done it! You You've ''really'' done it! How could you make Jane into such a perverted young thing?! She was such an innocent girl before you started screwing around with this story. Is this what you want?! I've guided [[BlatantLies a lot of people]] through this story, but I've never seen such a disgusting series of plot choices in my life!
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* ViolationOfCommonSense: [[spoiler:You have to go through the choice of Thresher forcing Jane to take her clothes off, which gives you a ''negative score''.]]

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* ViolationOfCommonSense: [[spoiler:You have to go through the choice of Thresher forcing Jane to take her clothes off, which gives you a ''negative score''. Averted in the 2024 re-release, which raises your score instead.]]



--->'''Harry Armis:''' Oh, now you done it! You ''really'' done it! How could you make Jane into such a perverted young thing?! I've guided [[BlatantLies a lot of people]] through this story, but I've never seen such a disgusting series of plot choices in my life!

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--->'''Harry Armis:''' Oh, now you done it! You ''really'' done it! How could you make Jane into such a perverted young thing?! Is this what you want?! I've guided [[BlatantLies a lot of people]] through this story, but I've never seen such a disgusting series of plot choices in my life!
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* GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion: The 3DO version features several changes from the PC version, with some music being changed, some lines (mainly Harry Armis') using different takes, and different decision screens with their own narrators.

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* GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion: The 3DO version features several changes from the PC version, with some music being changed, some lines (mainly Harry Armis') using different takes, and different decision screens with their own narrators. Also, a new FMV opening with Jane was added, as well as credits for the 3DO version.

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''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd'' reviewed this in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyaF_gCKWsI Episode 74]]. You can also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjMAG5IDnek&list=PL6D5174E3618CBED7 play it on YouTube]] (note: requires the use of a third-party add-on to restore annotations).

It was rather unexpectedly announced at E3 2021 that Limited Run Games would be re-releasing it for Platform/NintendoSwitch, Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/PlayStation5, and PC at some point in the future. It was later [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUWU1v3zvEE re-revealed]] in 2023 as ''Plumbers Don't Wear Ties: Definitive Edition'', which features "nicer" graphics and new extra features such as interviews and audio commentaries. ''Definitive Edition'' is set for release on March 5, 2024.

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''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd'' reviewed this the 3DO version in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyaF_gCKWsI Episode 74]]. You can also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjMAG5IDnek&list=PL6D5174E3618CBED7 play it on YouTube]] (note: requires the use of a third-party add-on to restore annotations).

It was rather unexpectedly announced at E3 2021 that Limited Run Games would be re-releasing it for Platform/NintendoSwitch, Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/PlayStation5, and PC at some point in the future. It was later [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUWU1v3zvEE re-revealed]] in 2023 as ''Plumbers Don't Wear Ties: Definitive Edition'', which features "nicer" enhanced graphics and new extra features such as interviews and audio commentaries. ''Definitive Edition'' is set for release was released on March 5, 2024.


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* GeorgeLucasAlteredVersion: The 3DO version features several changes from the PC version, with some music being changed, some lines (mainly Harry Armis') using different takes, and different decision screens with their own narrators.
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* {{Leitmotif}}: Many of Harry Armis' scenes are accompanied by a military-like horn theme.

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* ViolationOfCommonSense: [[spoiler:You have to go through the choice of the boss forcing Jane to take her clothes off, which gives you a ''negative score''.]]

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* ViolationOfCommonSense: [[spoiler:You have to go through the choice of the boss Thresher forcing Jane to take her clothes off, which gives you a ''negative score''.]]]]
* WeAreExperiencingTechnicalDifficulties: A "Technical Difficulties" card appears as Harry Armis is shooting Thelma.
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* DullSurprise: Neither of the 3DO decision screen narrators show much emotion, especially the female voice.

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* WhamLine: This line from Thresher:
-->Thresher:
You know, perhaps something can be worked out after all.

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* WhamLine: This line from Thresher:
-->Thresher:
Thresher when he decides to take advantage of Jane's situation:
-->Thresher:
You know, perhaps something can be worked out after all.

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* BlamedForBeingRailroaded: Harry Armis (the narrator) gives you grief for having you choose the ending in which Thresher tries to get Jane to have sex with him, resulting in your score going permanently negative... but it's also the ''only'' choice that doesn't immediately end the game.

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* BlamedForBeingRailroaded: Harry Armis (the narrator) gives you grief for having you choose the ending in which Thresher tries to get Jane to have sex with him, resulting in your score going permanently negative... but it's also the ''only'' choice that doesn't immediately end the game.



** In the "Turn poor Jane away!" option, Jane chews out the player for selecting said option. John also mentions "the stupid person controlling this story" in the "Jane gets the job" option.

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** In the "Turn poor Jane away!" option, Jane directly chews out the player for selecting said option. John also mentions "the stupid person controlling this story" in the "Jane gets the job" option.



** When John can choose to chase Jane or not isn't really an exception either. It might look like a different ending (the GayOption), but you receive the sign to "Give me one more chance", meaning it's another game over.

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** When John can choose to chase Jane or not isn't really an exception either. It might look like a different ending (the GayOption), but you you're reminded that John needs to be together with Jane (in the PC version) or receive the sign to "Give me one more chance", chance!" (in the 3DO version), meaning it's another game over.



* EarlyBirdCameo: Jane appears towards the end of the opening DreamSequence, before John meets her.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: Jane appears towards the end of the opening DreamSequence, DreamSequence before John meets her.her.
* EmptyShell: In the "Jane goes for it!" option, Armis notes that John "leads an unremarkable and miserable existence" after marrying Amy and having three children to appease his mother.



* MultipleEndings: This is a rare case when you aren't even ''allowed'' to try a different route than the one the game set up as canon. However, they do have endings (Jane stripping for Thresher to get the job, John and Thresher ending up together, etc.), but they're labeled "failure" for this reason. This is all in stark contrast to what visual novels usually promote (multiple routes, each of which has multiple endings), which is one of many reasons as to why the game is so hated.

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* MultipleEndings: This is a rare case when you aren't even ''allowed'' to try a different route than the one the game set up as canon. However, they do have endings (Jane stripping for Thresher to get the job, John and Thresher ending up together, etc.), but they're labeled "failure" for this reason. This is all in stark contrast to what visual novels usually promote (multiple routes, each of which has multiple endings), which is one of many reasons as to why the game is so hated.criticized.



** Said re-release's opening sequence is deliberately shot in poor quality with a low framerate to emulate the opening of the 3DO version.

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** Said re-release's new opening sequence with Jeanne Basone is deliberately shot in poor quality with a low framerate to emulate the opening of the 3DO version.



* TrueBlueFemininity: After her first scene, Thelma switches to a blue dress.

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* TrueBlueFemininity: After spending her first scene, scene in a karate gi, Thelma switches to a blue dress.



-->"You know, perhaps something can be worked out after all. ''({{beat}})'' '''Take your clothes off, Jane.'''"

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-->"You -->Thresher:
You
know, perhaps something can be worked out after all. ''({{beat}})'' '''Take all.
-->Jane: Yes?
-->Thresher: '''...Take
your clothes off, Jane.'''"
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* ItsAWonderfulFailure: Most videos lead to this. As well as the "[[GoldenEnding Hollywood ending]]", you can get the "Meeting Held Off", "Hired", "Not Hired", "S&M", "Gay", "Indecent Proposal" and "Nun" endings... there's far more bad endings than good.

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* ItsAWonderfulFailure: Most videos options lead to this. As well as the "[[GoldenEnding Hollywood ending]]", you can get the "Meeting Held Off", "Hired", "Not Hired", "S&M", "Gay", "Indecent Proposal" and "Nun" endings... there's endings. There are far more bad endings than good.

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* GroinAttack: The imaginary Jane does this to the imaginary John in the first ImagineSpot.

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* GroinAttack: GroinAttack:
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The imaginary Jane does this to the imaginary John in the first ImagineSpot.ImagineSpot.
** Later, when Jane agrees to go with Thresher in the "Jane goes for it!" option, she kicks John in the crotch.

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