History VisualNovel / HatePlus

1st Jun '16 10:41:31 PM billybobfred
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* TechnologyMarchesOn: The ''Mugunghwa'' took an estimated 2500 years to get to where it did from Earth. And even taking into account that it probably veered off course, the Investigator's single-seat recovery/scout vessel only takes only ''3 days'' to get back to Earth from the ''Mugunghwa'', and it's damaged at the time!

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: InUniverse. The ''Mugunghwa'' took an estimated 2500 years to get to where it did from Earth. And even taking into account that it probably veered off course, the Investigator's single-seat recovery/scout vessel only takes only ''3 days'' to get back to Earth from the ''Mugunghwa'', and it's damaged at the time!
26th Feb '16 12:45:15 PM mr_mars
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** *Mute's defiant "just watch me" echoes a line famously spoken by former Canadian PM Pierre Trudeau during a time of political strife.
30th Oct '15 12:12:51 AM Andrzej
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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Minor example: the color of the background and the interface will be different depending on which route you're doing, much like in [[VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory Analogue]]. *Hyun-ae will have a blue interface, romanced *Mute will have red, [[[[MarryThemAll Harem Ending]] *Hyun-ae and *Mute together]] will have pink, etc.

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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Minor example: the color of the background and the interface will be different depending on which route you're doing, much like in [[VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory Analogue]]. *Hyun-ae will have a blue interface, romanced *Mute will have red, [[[[MarryThemAll Harem Ending]] [[MarryThemAll *Hyun-ae and *Mute together]] will have pink, etc.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: As with ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory''. At some points, there's multiple layers of dissonance: *Mute is horrified and disgusted at Old *Mute's rude and unladylike behavior—but Old *Mute is acting this way because she is, herself, horrified and disgusted at the retrograde and patriarchal notions she's hearing. It gets even more complicated when [[[[MarryThemAll Harem Ending]] *Hyun-ae and *Mute]] are ''both'' commenting on a document, and debating the cause-and-effect of depravity and morality.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: As with ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory''. At some points, there's multiple layers of dissonance: *Mute is horrified and disgusted at Old *Mute's rude and unladylike behavior—but Old *Mute is acting this way because she is, herself, horrified and disgusted at the retrograde and patriarchal notions she's hearing. It gets even more complicated when [[[[MarryThemAll Harem Ending]] [[MarryThemAll *Hyun-ae and *Mute]] are ''both'' commenting on a document, and debating the cause-and-effect of depravity and morality.
29th Oct '15 7:35:24 AM Willbyr
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** The game's name itself is a reference to LovePlus.

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** The game's name itself is a reference to LovePlus.''VideoGame/LovePlus''.
5th Oct '15 12:36:29 PM FF32
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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Minor example: the color of the background and the interface will be different depending on which route you're doing, much like in [[VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory Analogue]]. *Hyun-ae will have a blue interface, romanced *Mute will have red, [[HaremEnding *Hyun-ae and *Mute together]] will have pink, etc.

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* ColorCodedForYourConvenience: Minor example: the color of the background and the interface will be different depending on which route you're doing, much like in [[VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory Analogue]]. *Hyun-ae will have a blue interface, romanced *Mute will have red, [[HaremEnding [[[[MarryThemAll Harem Ending]] *Hyun-ae and *Mute together]] will have pink, etc.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: As with ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory''. At some points, there's multiple layers of dissonance: *Mute is horrified and disgusted at Old *Mute's rude and unladylike behavior—but Old *Mute is acting this way because she is, herself, horrified and disgusted at the retrograde and patriarchal notions she's hearing. It gets even more complicated when [[HaremEnding *Hyun-ae and *Mute]] are ''both'' commenting on a document, and debating the cause-and-effect of depravity and morality.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: As with ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory''. At some points, there's multiple layers of dissonance: *Mute is horrified and disgusted at Old *Mute's rude and unladylike behavior—but Old *Mute is acting this way because she is, herself, horrified and disgusted at the retrograde and patriarchal notions she's hearing. It gets even more complicated when [[HaremEnding [[[[MarryThemAll Harem Ending]] *Hyun-ae and *Mute]] are ''both'' commenting on a document, and debating the cause-and-effect of depravity and morality.
24th Aug '15 11:55:26 PM SonicGamer07
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* LastLousyPoint: Subverted with "Level Four Revive Materia", because [[spoiler:[[UnwinnableByDesign you can't get it in the first place.]] It's not even coded into the game. The only person who has gotten it is [[TrollingCreator Love herself.]]]]
3rd Aug '15 8:04:40 PM Andrzej
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* PrecisionFStrike: As in ''VisualNovel/AnalogueAHateStory'', *Mute doesn't swear too badly unless the situation ''really'' calls for it, like when reading [[spoiler:Oh Mi-seun's SuicideNote]].
-->'''*Hyun-ae:''' No!\\
'''*Mute:''' Fuck...
3rd Aug '15 6:44:48 PM Andrzej
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* GagPenis: Minor example in Harem route. When [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a]] first meets [[spoiler:her future husband Ryu]], *Mute is scandalized to discover that [[spoiler:the future Empress]] was initially "just interested in his cock." This leads to a funny exchange with *Hyun-ae, who [[spoiler:slept with Ryu's descendent back when she was alive:]]
-->'''*Hyun-ae:''' [[spoiler:...well, if he's anything like his descendent, he's probably余]\\
'''*Mute:''' [[spoiler:NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, DON'T TELL ME THIS. I CANNOT HEAR WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY, OKAY?]]

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* GagPenis: Minor example in Harem route. When [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a]] first meets [[spoiler:her future husband Ryu]], *Mute is scandalized to discover that [[spoiler:the future Empress]] was initially "just interested in his cock." was just looking for a OneNightStand. This leads to a funny exchange with *Hyun-ae, who [[spoiler:slept with [[spoiler:was the royal concubine of Ryu's descendent back when she was alive:]]
-->'''*Hyun-ae:''' -->'''*Mute:''' [[BigWhat WHAT]]. At first, she just wanted the [[spoiler:great Emperor Ryu]]... for his ''cock''?!\\
'''*Hyun-ae:'''
[[spoiler:...well, if he's anything like his descendent, he's probably余]\\
probably--]]\\
'''*Mute:''' [[spoiler:NO.[[NoJustNoReaction NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, DON'T TELL ME THIS. ]] [[BrainBleach I CANNOT HEAR WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY, OKAY?]]
2nd Aug '15 8:38:48 PM Andrzej
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* BadBoss: A variant. The only scientist investigating the cause of the decline of birth rates aboard the ship is [[spoiler:fired by her boss, but only under pressure by ''his'' new boss: the scientist's former assistant, who molested her in the past.]] Her boss ''has'' been a jerk in the past, such as making her cleaning up the remains of a laboratory explosion instead of doing research.

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* BadBoss: A variant. The Kim So-yi, the only scientist investigating the cause of the decline of birth rates aboard the ship is [[spoiler:fired by her boss, but only under pressure by ''his'' new boss: boss, the scientist's former assistant, new Councillor of Engineering and Science and a member of the Han family, who molested her is making it hard for anyone in the past.]] Kim family to keep their old positions]]. Her previous boss ''has'' been a jerk in the past, such as making her cleaning up the remains of a laboratory explosion instead of doing research.
2nd Aug '15 2:00:59 PM Andrzej
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--> '''Hyun-ae:''' [[spoiler:Are you not taking me seriously? Are you just pretending, as a joke at my expense? What do you think this is, some sort of tacky ero visual novel? Do you really think relationships are as easy as just clicking the right dialogue choices on a menu...? Are you trying to tell me that, after all the time we've spent together, I don't deserve just a little bit of effort? Well, here's a message to you... not as a cool space investigator, but as a player sitting at a computer screen talking to a sad girl. Stand up, get the ingredients, actually go into your kitchen, and bake a cake! A real, actual, IRL cake! Please, do this for me! You promised me you would! Let me enjoy it through you, please!]]

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--> '''Hyun-ae:''' --->'''Hyun-ae:''' [[spoiler:Are you not taking me seriously? Are you just pretending, as a joke at my expense? What do you think this is, some sort of tacky ero visual novel? Do you really think relationships are as easy as just clicking the right dialogue choices on a menu...? Are you trying to tell me that, after all the time we've spent together, I don't deserve just a little bit of effort? Well, here's a message to you... not as a cool space investigator, but as a player sitting at a computer screen talking to a sad girl. Stand up, get the ingredients, actually go into your kitchen, and bake a cake! A real, actual, IRL cake! Please, do this for me! You promised me you would! Let me enjoy it through you, please!]]



--> '''Kim So-yi:''' I have no intention of having children at 24.
--> '''*Mute:''' What? But ... that's the best age to have children at!

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--> '''Kim -->'''Kim So-yi:''' I have no intention of having children at 24.
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24.\\
'''*Mute:''' What? But ... that's the best age to have children at!



** [[spoiler: Oh Eun-a feels betrayed by her father when she discovers he knew about a plot against her and Ryu and did nothing, conveniently forgetting that she hung him out to dry first by giving his Councillorship for Education to one of Ryu's puppets.]]

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** [[spoiler: Oh [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a feels betrayed by her father when she discovers he knew about a plot against her and Ryu and did nothing, conveniently forgetting that she hung him out to dry first by giving his Councillorship for Education to one of Ryu's puppets.]]



* EveryoneIsBi: Subverted by (non-harem) *Mute, who never fully comes around to accepting or returning a female main character's love in any meaningful way, and thinks the whole relationship is absurd. She still, however, refers to herself as a wife, and is not unhappy with the predicament. [[spoiler: New *Mute feels even more strongly that the relationship should stay platonic, though mostly because she barely knows you yet.]]

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* EveryoneIsBi: Subverted by (non-harem) *Mute, who never fully comes around to accepting or returning a female main character's love in any meaningful way, and thinks the whole relationship is absurd. She still, however, refers to herself as a wife, and is not unhappy with the predicament. [[spoiler: New [[spoiler:New *Mute feels even more strongly that the relationship should stay platonic, though mostly because she barely knows you yet.]]



--> [[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''']] "Me? Oh no! I think people get distracted by them too easily instead of focusing on the things that really matter!" I said, summarizing my thesis about the myopic social destruction caused by the increasing discourse of democratization.

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--> [[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''']] -->[[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''']] "Me? Oh no! I think people get distracted by them too easily instead of focusing on the things that really matter!" I said, summarizing my thesis about the myopic social destruction caused by the increasing discourse of democratization.



* FutureImperfect: Along with society's understanding of the past aboard the ''Mugunghwa'' being flawed, the new government gets several things wrong about the Joseon dynasty, such as the fact that [[spoiler: they were the first to stop using Chinese characters.]]
* GagPenis: Minor example in Harem route. When [[spoiler: Oh Eun-a]] first meets [[spoiler:her future husband Ryu]], *Mute is scandalized to discover that [[spoiler:the future Empress]] was initially "just interested in his cock." This leads to a funny exchange with *Hyun-ae, who [[spoiler:slept with Ryu's descendent back when she was alive:]]
--> '''*Hyun-ae:''' [[spoiler:...well, if he's anything like his descendent, he's probably余]
--> '''*Mute:''' [[spoiler:NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, DON'T TELL ME THIS. I CANNOT HEAR WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY, OKAY?]]

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* FutureImperfect: Along with society's understanding of the past aboard the ''Mugunghwa'' being flawed, the new government gets several things wrong about the Joseon dynasty, such as the fact that [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they were the first to stop using Chinese characters.]]
* GagPenis: Minor example in Harem route. When [[spoiler: Oh [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a]] first meets [[spoiler:her future husband Ryu]], *Mute is scandalized to discover that [[spoiler:the future Empress]] was initially "just interested in his cock." This leads to a funny exchange with *Hyun-ae, who [[spoiler:slept with Ryu's descendent back when she was alive:]]
--> '''*Hyun-ae:''' -->'''*Hyun-ae:''' [[spoiler:...well, if he's anything like his descendent, he's probably余]
-->
probably余]\\
'''*Mute:''' [[spoiler:NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO, DON'T TELL ME THIS. I CANNOT HEAR WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SAY, OKAY?]]



* HitSoHardTheCalendarFeltIt: Addressed by a log in Block 13, where it is revealed that it was caused by [[spoiler: a rebellion that damaged the stability of the pre-Year Zero political system and caused a total hard drive wipe of the ship's computer, resetting *Mute and deleting her memories.]]
** A deliberate example of UnreliableNarrator. [[spoiler: The 'rebellion' was the dying throes of the legitimate political system trying to reassert control over a totalitarian despotism/functional autocracy. Chief Councillor "Emperor" Ryu wiped the computers, and *Mute, himself.]]

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* HitSoHardTheCalendarFeltIt: Addressed by a log in Block 13, where it is revealed that it was caused by [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a rebellion that damaged the stability of the pre-Year Zero political system and caused a total hard drive wipe of the ship's computer, resetting *Mute and deleting her memories.]]
** A deliberate example of UnreliableNarrator. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The 'rebellion' was the dying throes of the legitimate political system trying to reassert control over a totalitarian despotism/functional autocracy. Chief Councillor "Emperor" Ryu wiped the computers, and *Mute, himself.]]



--> [[spoiler:'''Old *Mute:''' I wished with every byte of my being that I could've picked that second option. But I knew I couldn't. I knew, as my very core directive, that safety was more important than freedom.]]

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--> [[spoiler:'''Old -->[[spoiler:'''Old *Mute:''' I wished with every byte of my being that I could've picked that second option. But I knew I couldn't. I knew, as my very core directive, that safety was more important than freedom.]]



-->'''*Mute:''' Just so we're clear, "little sister" means "lesbian lover," right?

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-->'''*Mute:''' Just so we're clear, Um, just to be perfectly clear... "little sister" means "lesbian lover," lover", right?



* InternalizedCategorism: *Mute, who views her programmed female gender as coming with a great deal of baggage. [[spoiler: If she's talked into considering a relationship with a female Investigator, her homophobia comes into play, too.]]

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* InternalizedCategorism: *Mute, who views her programmed female gender as coming with a great deal of baggage. [[spoiler: If [[spoiler:If she's talked into considering a relationship with a female Investigator, her homophobia comes into play, too.]]



--> [[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''' I want to make a society that would've given you something better than me.]]

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--> [[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''' --->[[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''' I want to make a society that would've given you something better than me.]]



--> '''Hyun-ae:''' "...Even if I don't understand how you could buy a cake in the middle of deep space..."

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--> '''Hyun-ae:''' -->'''Hyun-ae:''' "...Even if I don't understand how you could buy a cake in the middle of deep space..."



* ManipulativeBastard: Old *Mute can show shades of this. Surprisingly, [[spoiler: Oh Eun-a]] turns out to be this for the '''entire story'''.

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* ManipulativeBastard: Old *Mute can show shades of this. Surprisingly, [[spoiler: Oh [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a]] turns out to be this for the '''entire story'''.



** Possibly a part of [[spoiler: Oh Eun-a]]'s motivation. [[spoiler: She feels her "sister" deserves better but blames society rather than herself for it, and her eventual suicide. She appears convinced, perhaps due to low-self-esteem, that a Confucian society would have protected her better than she could.]]

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** Possibly a part of [[spoiler: Oh [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a]]'s motivation. [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She feels her "sister" deserves better but blames society rather than herself for it, and her eventual suicide. She appears convinced, perhaps due to low-self-esteem, that a Confucian society would have protected her better than she could.]]



* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: *Hyun-ae comes to feel this way about Oh Eun-a and her "sister", sympathizing with her feelings of being trapped.]]

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* NotSoDifferent: [[spoiler: *Hyun-ae [[spoiler:*Hyun-ae comes to feel this way about Oh Eun-a and her "sister", sympathizing with her feelings of being trapped.]]



--> [[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''']] "Uh, maybe this is a dumb question," I said, leadingly ...

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--> [[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''']] --->[[spoiler:'''Eun-a:''']] "Uh, maybe this is a dumb question," I said, leadingly ...



--> '''*Mute:''' [[spoiler:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA]]

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--> '''*Mute:''' --->'''*Mute:''' [[spoiler:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA]]



** Also the subject of an amusing conversation in the harem route where *Mute and *Hyun-ae argue over who is more qualified to be "older sister". [[spoiler: *Hyun-ae wins as *Mute can't remember her past incarnations and wasn't awake for the long period between the ship's downfall and the player's arrival.]]

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** Also the subject of an amusing conversation in the harem route where *Mute and *Hyun-ae argue over who is more qualified to be "older sister". [[spoiler: *Hyun-ae [[spoiler:*Hyun-ae wins as *Mute can't remember her past incarnations and wasn't awake for the long period between the ship's downfall and the player's arrival.]]



* {{Seppuku}}: Using ThisVeryWiki's definition of "Seppuku," the suicide of [[spoiler:Heo Seo-yeong]] qualifies [[spoiler: except that she probably didn't actually kill herself]]. The honor-bound deaths of [[spoiler: Oh Eun-a's lover]] and [[spoiler: *Mute, whose suicide note recounts her failings and admits that she is "freeing" a romantically-inclined Investigator]] probably also qualify.

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* {{Seppuku}}: Using ThisVeryWiki's definition of "Seppuku," the suicide of [[spoiler:Heo Seo-yeong]] qualifies [[spoiler: except [[spoiler:except that she probably didn't actually kill herself]]. The honor-bound deaths of [[spoiler: Oh [[spoiler:Oh Eun-a's lover]] and [[spoiler: *Mute, [[spoiler:*Mute, whose suicide note recounts her failings and admits that she is "freeing" a romantically-inclined Investigator]] probably also qualify.



*** [[{{Website/Facebook}} Relationship Status: It's complicated]].

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*** [[{{Website/Facebook}} [[Website/{{Facebook}} Relationship Status: It's complicated]].



* ThemeAndVariations: Old *Mute gets a slowed down remix version of one of *Mute songs from Analogue. [[spoiler: It matches Old *Mute's tired state for being active for 1600 years, 600 more than she was designed to be. Even as an immortal AI, all the memories she accumulated left her bogged down from having to cross-reference so much data when thinking.]]

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* ThemeAndVariations: Old *Mute gets a slowed down remix version of one of *Mute songs from Analogue. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It matches Old *Mute's tired state for being active for 1600 years, 600 more than she was designed to be. Even as an immortal AI, all the memories she accumulated left her bogged down from having to cross-reference so much data when thinking.]]



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