History VisualNovel / FateHollowAtaraxia

15th Jan '18 7:53:05 PM MasterN
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* TheDevil: Subverted. Avenger states that his identity is that of Angra Manyu, but that he is not the demon god of legend. Rather, it's just a title that was given to him when his old name was taken away. [[LemonyNarrator He says he would rather be the god of something more mundane like pots or something since he isn't that special.]]

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* TheDevil: Subverted. Avenger states that his identity is that of Angra Manyu, but that he is not the demon god of legend. Rather, it's just a title that was given to him when his old name was taken away. [[LemonyNarrator He says he would rather be the god of something more mundane like pots or something since he isn't that special.]]special]].



* DysfunctionJunction: This has actually been glossed over to a large extent. For example, Ilya has ''mostly'' relaxed, Shinji has stopped being quite so horrible and Sakura has grown a lot bolder, meaning while all the bad stuff is noted as still having occurred, people have mostly moved on.

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* DysfunctionJunction: This has actually been glossed over to a large extent. For example, Ilya has ''mostly'' relaxed, Shinji has stopped being quite so horrible and Sakura has grown a lot bolder, meaning while all the bad stuff is noted as still having occurred, [[CharacterDevelopment people have mostly moved on.]]



* MoodWhiplash: The appearances of Rider's sisters in her backstory, where they are initially shown bullying her terribly in scenes that are played for laughs, but then comes the harsh reminder that Medusa turned into a monster and devoured both of them. Her memories of being bullied by them are the fondest ones she has.

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* MoodWhiplash: The appearances of Rider's sisters in her backstory, where they are initially shown bullying her terribly in scenes that are played for laughs, but then comes the harsh reminder that Medusa turned into a monster and [[TheDogBitesBack devoured both of them. them]]. Her memories of being bullied by them are [[TraumaCongaLine the fondest ones she has.has]].



** Lancer picking flowers and showing off for girls with Gae Bolg, an imagine spot of Rider petrifying policeman who are after her, Saber unleashing the Barrier of the Wind King when Shirou teases her about her stuffed lion and more.

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** Lancer picking flowers and showing off for girls with Gae Bolg, an imagine spot ImagineSpot of Rider petrifying policeman who are after her, Saber unleashing the Barrier of the Wind King when Shirou teases her about her stuffed lion and more.



* YouRemindMeOfX: Rider is really embarrassed that she got killed by Perseus in her original life. She describes him as a loser and a spoiled brat and that he's like a "successful Shinji Matou". In hindsight, this means her getting bossed around by Shinji in the original Fate/Stay Night must have been harsh.

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* YouRemindMeOfX: Rider is really embarrassed that she got killed by Perseus in her original life. She describes him as a loser and a spoiled brat and that he's like a "successful [[{{Jerkass}} Shinji Matou".Matou]]". In hindsight, this means her getting bossed around by Shinji in the original Fate/Stay Night must have been harsh.
8th Jan '18 2:31:24 PM Arha
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* MoodWhiplash: The appearances of Rider's sisters in her backstory, where they are initially shown bullying her terribly in scenes that are played for laughs [[spoiler: until you find out that they were rape victims and that Rider eventually went completely berserk and killed them.]]

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* MoodWhiplash: The appearances of Rider's sisters in her backstory, where they are initially shown bullying her terribly in scenes that are played for laughs [[spoiler: until you find out laughs, but then comes the harsh reminder that they were rape victims Medusa turned into a monster and that Rider eventually went completely berserk and killed them.]]devoured both of them. Her memories of being bullied by them are the fondest ones she has.
25th Dec '17 9:27:08 PM FateStayWho
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* AuthorTract: During the opening montage, Avenger starts ranting about how the world is dying and how much better things were in the good ol' days. Then again, this is a physical fact of the setting that [[TimeAbyss Avenger]] would obviously be aware of, and [[OlderIsBetter this ideology]] isn't particularly pushed by Nasu in this work or any other, so ...


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* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: [[spoiler:Avenger rapes Caren, but this is not addressed much by either party, and they both seem to come out better people for it. Caren 'begins to consent' halfway through, and doesn't seem particularly upset about the encounter afterward. They even have a romantic and touching moment later on...]]
19th Dec '17 7:59:02 PM Ogiga99
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18th Dec '17 5:14:33 AM SpaceDrake
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** We very briefly get a glimpse of [[spoiler:Perseus]] at one point during Rider's flashbacks. [[spoiler:The Perseus Rider that's been teased in ''Anime/FatePrototype'' material looks ''significantly'' different to the one in ''F/HA'', though his appearances have been brief enough so far that it might just be him not having time to showcase his armor and whatnot.]]
18th Dec '17 5:04:38 AM SpaceDrake
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** Rider gets a little bit of it - ''HA'' rather implies, logically, that most of her career as guardian of the Shapeless Isle was in the form we know rider in today, and that when she [[spoiler:went "full Gorgon" and murdered her sisters, she was kind of a pillar of snakes]]. ''Grand Order'' would go on to expand on this, both showing how "Rider" was more like a Lancer early in her career [[spoiler:and showing that her Gorgon form was more complicated than just the snake pillar we briefly see, though that is part of Avenger Gorgon's Noble Phantasm]].

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** Rider gets a little bit of it - ''HA'' rather implies, logically, that most of her actual career as guardian of the Shapeless Isle was in the form we know rider Rider in today, that when she was a "child" she looked much more like her sisters ([[AllThereInTheManual character material guides]] would provide an illustration of this), and that when she [[spoiler:went "full Gorgon" and murdered her sisters, she was kind of a pillar of snakes]]. ''Grand Order'' would go on to expand on this, both showing how "Rider" was more like a Lancer early in her career career, how her outfit and appearance in that period was ''much'' different than that of her sisters, [[spoiler:and showing that her Gorgon form was more complicated than just the snake pillar we briefly see, though that is part of Avenger Gorgon's Noble Phantasm]].
18th Dec '17 4:58:56 AM SpaceDrake
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''Fate/hollow ataraxia'' is the sequel to ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and one of numerous works that take place in the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}. It is based on an unusual version of events: The Grail War has ended, Kotomine and Gilgamesh have been defeated and all is well. Only... all the Servants are still around and everyone seems to be alive. Well, okay, reasonable enough if you can't follow just one ending. But it's not that simple: Apparently thanks to Tohsaka's attempts to create a magical item based on dimensional hopping, all the different continuities have been mingled including ones we never saw. So what really happened and what's going on?

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''Fate/hollow ataraxia'' is the sequel fandisc pseudo-sequel to ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and one of numerous works that take place in the {{Franchise/Nasuverse}}. It is based on an unusual version of events: The Grail War has ended, Kotomine and Gilgamesh have been defeated and all is well. Only... all the Servants are still around and everyone seems to be alive. Well, okay, reasonable enough if you can't follow just one ending. But it's not that simple: Apparently thanks to Tohsaka's attempts to create a magical item based on dimensional hopping, all the different continuities have been mingled including ones we never saw. So what really happened and what's going on?



* CharacterizationMarchesOn: Actually less than one might think - this is the game that helped flesh out all the "Stay Night Seven" after ''F/SN'' itself, and even solidified Angra's characterization for later appearances - but there's still a few odd examples that will stick out to newer fans in a post-''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' world.
** The ''biggest'' are Euryale & Stheno. Here, they're almost completely ''interchangeable'', they both share the same outfit and nearly (but not ''quite'') the same sprite and it's very difficult at times to differentiate one from the other; this is where, and why, they picked up the gimmick of referring to each other as "me". ''Grand Order'' would go on to differentiate their personalities and appearances significantly (Stheno being calm & collected and Euryale being energetic & flirty; Stheno's is closer to the personality both have in ''F/HA''), and even give the two different classes (straight down to Euryale getting mixed up a bit with Eros and gaining Archer abilities).
** Rider gets a little bit of it - ''HA'' rather implies, logically, that most of her career as guardian of the Shapeless Isle was in the form we know rider in today, and that when she [[spoiler:went "full Gorgon" and murdered her sisters, she was kind of a pillar of snakes]]. ''Grand Order'' would go on to expand on this, both showing how "Rider" was more like a Lancer early in her career [[spoiler:and showing that her Gorgon form was more complicated than just the snake pillar we briefly see, though that is part of Avenger Gorgon's Noble Phantasm]].



* ContinuitySnarl: If you keep track of everything that is mentioned in the story, you'll note that Shirou has to remember an impossibly complicated and possibly contradictory series of events. For example, he remembers Tohsaka beating Caster in close range combat in the church like in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' but he also remembers her being impaled by Gilgamesh outside his house as she was in ''Fate''. Thankfully, this is the [[{{multiverse}} Nasuverse]], so all routes are canon (even ones that were never shown, like Ilya's route).
* CoolCar: Illya owns a Mercedes Benz, 300SL Coupe, with a top speed of over 270 KPH. (Possibly a mistranslation?). She uses it to drive around the area.

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* ContinuitySnarl: If you keep track of everything that is mentioned in the story, you'll note that Shirou has to remember an impossibly complicated and possibly contradictory series of events. For example, he remembers Tohsaka beating Caster in close range combat in the church like in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' but he also remembers her being impaled by Gilgamesh outside his house as she was in ''Fate''. Thankfully, this is the [[{{multiverse}} Nasuverse]], so all routes are canon (even ones that were never shown, like Ilya's route).
route). [[spoiler:Though ultimately this is also a major hint that something very weird is going on.]]
* CoolCar: Illya owns a Mercedes Benz, 300SL Coupe, with a top speed of over 270 KPH. (Possibly a mistranslation?). mistranslation?) She uses it to does, in fact, drive it around the area. Fuyuki area (after all, [[spoiler:she ''is'' eighteen]]).



* {{Gotterdammerung}}: Modern Magecraft vs. [[OlderIsBetter the Age of Gods]]. Though Caster notes that the likes of Sakura and Tohsaka have some absolutely amazing potential and in her age it seems there were no True Magics like what Zelretch can do.

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* {{Gotterdammerung}}: Modern This game gives us the first true taste of "Modern Magecraft vs. [[OlderIsBetter the Age of Gods]]. Gods]]". Though Caster notes that the likes of Sakura and Tohsaka Rin have some absolutely amazing potential and in her age it seems there were no True Magics like what Zelretch Zeltretch can do.



* HandWave: There's an extended scene with Ilya about Saber, Kiritsugu and Irisviel about halfway through the game that devotes itself to tying up the canon neatly, particularly the parts that made no sense such as Saber and Kiritsugu never talking, Saber not recognizing Ilya despite having met her and Irisviel not only going unmentioned in FSN but also the implication that she wasn't even in town then. Some of the explanations are better than others.

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* HandWave: There's an extended scene with Ilya about Saber, Kiritsugu and Irisviel about halfway through the game that devotes itself to tying up the canon neatly, particularly the parts that made no sense such as Saber and Kiritsugu never talking, Saber not recognizing Ilya despite having met her and Irisviel not only going unmentioned in FSN but also the implication that she wasn't even in town then. Some of the explanations are better than others. This would serve as the basis for what would become ''LightNovel/FateZero''.
13th Nov '17 10:37:28 PM Delnoir
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* ContinuitySnarl: If you keep track of everything that is mentioned in the story, you'll note that Shirou has to remember an impossibly complicated and possibly contradictory series of events. For example, he remembers Tohsaka beating Caster in close range combat in the church like in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' but he also remembers her being impaled by Gilgamesh outside his house. Thankfully, this is the [[{{multiverse}} Nasuverse]], so all routes are canon (even ones that were never shown, like Ilya's route).

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* ContinuitySnarl: If you keep track of everything that is mentioned in the story, you'll note that Shirou has to remember an impossibly complicated and possibly contradictory series of events. For example, he remembers Tohsaka beating Caster in close range combat in the church like in ''Unlimited Blade Works'' but he also remembers her being impaled by Gilgamesh outside his house.house as she was in ''Fate''. Thankfully, this is the [[{{multiverse}} Nasuverse]], so all routes are canon (even ones that were never shown, like Ilya's route).
9th Aug '17 11:05:26 PM ultimomant
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* YouRemindMeOfX: Rider is really embarrassed that she got killed by Perseus in her original life. She describes him as a loser and a spoiled brat and that he's like a "successful Shinji Matou".

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* YouRemindMeOfX: Rider is really embarrassed that she got killed by Perseus in her original life. She describes him as a loser and a spoiled brat and that he's like a "successful Shinji Matou".
Matou". In hindsight, this means her getting bossed around by Shinji in the original Fate/Stay Night must have been harsh.
9th Aug '17 10:59:00 PM ultimomant
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** Servants can have their Noble Phantasm coming out of thin air. {{Justified|Trope}} by the Holy Grail War system. Lancer pulls out Gae Bolg at one point to show to Ayako. And also chop flowers for a get well bouquet

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** Servants can have their Noble Phantasm coming out of thin air. {{Justified|Trope}} by the Holy Grail War system. Lancer pulls out Gae Bolg at one point to show to Ayako. And also chop flowers for a get well bouquetbouquet.




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* YouRemindMeOfX: Rider is really embarrassed that she got killed by Perseus in her original life. She describes him as a loser and a spoiled brat and that he's like a "successful Shinji Matou".
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