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** ''Film/TheGeneral'' was not only a box office failure but widely panned by critics for being too dramatic and for casting Confederates in the place of the film's heroes. It would subsequently be regarded as Keaton's greatest film -- ironically, even as Confederate soldiers have become even ''more'' unsympathetic in American popular folklore.

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** ''Film/TheGeneral'' ''Film/TheGeneral1926'' was not only a box office failure but widely panned by critics for being too dramatic and for casting Confederates in the place of the film's heroes. It would subsequently be regarded as Keaton's greatest film -- ironically, even as Confederate soldiers have become even ''more'' unsympathetic in American popular folklore.
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* After ''Film/TaxiDriver'', the legendary Creator/MartinScorsese made the disastrous ''Film/NewYorkNewYork'', and a losing streak started for him in the '80s as the "MediaNotes/NewHollywood" crumbled down on him and other major '70s filmmakers.

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* After ''Film/TaxiDriver'', the legendary Creator/MartinScorsese made the disastrous ''Film/NewYorkNewYork'', and a losing streak started for him in the '80s TheEighties as the "MediaNotes/NewHollywood" crumbled down on him and other major '70s filmmakers.
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** ''Film/BlueVelvet'' didn't turn much of a profit at all ($8.6 million gross versus $6 million budget), but was well-liked by most critics who stuck by it, and soon it was re-evaluated by the general public as among the very best pictures of the 80s.

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** ''Film/BlueVelvet'' didn't turn much of a profit at all ($8.6 million gross versus $6 million budget), but was well-liked by most critics who stuck by it, and soon it was re-evaluated by the general public as among the very best pictures of the 80s.TheEighties.
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** ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' got slammed with poor reviews when it released in 2003 with many decrying the lack of Creator/VinDiesel and the more comical tone compared to the sleek and edgy first film to the point where a lot of people treated it like a direct-to-DVD sequel. Nowadays with the Fast saga getting more and more ego-driven, many now view the second film as refreshing precisely because it's less straight-faced thanks to Creator/TyreseGibson's Roman being plenty of fun and it gives Brian room to breath as a character without being joined at the hip to Dom -- something even more appreciated after Creator/PaulWalker's death. The second film also wasn't afraid to depict its heroes as vulnerable and [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNIqkSzSKc responding realistically]] to crashing their car into a boat whereas later films (due to actors' contracts) has the cast be [[InvincibleHero Invincible Heroes]] who just shrug off numerous crashes without so much as a scratch.
** ''Film/TheFastAndTheFuriousTokyoDrift'' was very disliked when it released and considered the odd duck of the franchise, due to lacking none of the cast of the previous films (barring Dom briefly in TheStinger) and its protagonist Sean was considered unlikeable and unappealing. The film's reputation was probably not helped by it inadvertently sparking off the KudzuPlot due to being a retroactive sequel to the [[Film/FastAndFurious6 sixth film]] which was of course not the intention when it was being created. Nowadays however with the FF films getting diminishing returns, ''Tokyo Drift'' has gotten more love with people genuinely appreciating the fact it explored street racing in cool ways by being set in Japan -- unlike future films where the street racing angle is largely abandoned in favour of being bombastic action films where the cast are all secret agents. The film also introduced EnsembleDarkHorse Han, the character even detractors of the franchise like (though his "death" in film caused the aforementioned KudzuPlot when they wanted to have him back for the fourth movie). Even Creator/ChristopherNolan revealed ''Tokyo Drift'' is his favourite film of the series.

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** ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' got slammed with poor reviews when it released in 2003 with many decrying the lack of Creator/VinDiesel and the more comical tone compared to the sleek and edgy first film to the point where a lot of people treated it like a direct-to-DVD sequel. Nowadays with the Fast saga getting more and more ego-driven, many now view the second film as refreshing precisely because it's less straight-faced thanks to Creator/TyreseGibson's Roman being plenty of fun and it gives Brian room to breath as a character without being joined at the hip to Dom -- something even more appreciated after Creator/PaulWalker's death. The second film also wasn't afraid to depict its heroes as vulnerable and [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNIqkSzSKc responding realistically]] to crashing their car into a boat whereas later films (due to actors' contracts) has the cast be [[InvincibleHero Invincible Heroes]] {{invincible hero}}es who just shrug off numerous crashes without so much as a scratch.
** ''Film/TheFastAndTheFuriousTokyoDrift'' was very disliked when it released and considered the odd duck of the franchise, due to lacking none of the cast of the previous films (barring Dom briefly in TheStinger) and its protagonist Sean was considered unlikeable and unappealing. The film's reputation was probably not helped by it inadvertently sparking off the KudzuPlot due to being a retroactive sequel to the [[Film/FastAndFurious6 sixth film]] which was of course not the intention when it was being created. Nowadays however with the FF films getting diminishing returns, ''Tokyo Drift'' has gotten more love with people genuinely appreciating the fact it explored street racing in cool ways by being set in Japan -- unlike future films where the street racing angle is largely abandoned in favour of being bombastic action films where the cast are all secret agents. The film also introduced EnsembleDarkHorse Han, the character even detractors of the franchise like (though his "death" in film caused the aforementioned KudzuPlot when they wanted to have him back for the fourth movie). Even Creator/ChristopherNolan revealed ''Tokyo Drift'' is his favourite favorite film of the series.
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** ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' got slammed with poor reviews when it released in 2003 with many decrying the lack of Creator/VinDiesel and the more comical tone compared to the sleek and edgy first film to the point where a lot of people treated it like a direct-to-DVD sequel. Nowadays with the Fast saga getting more and more ego-driven, many now view the second film as refreshing precisely because it's less straight-faced thanks to Creator/TyreseGibson's Roman being plenty of fun and it gives Brian room to breath as a character without being joined at the hip to Dom -- something even more appreciated after Creator/PaulWalker's passing. The second film also wasn't afraid to depict its heroes as vulnerable and [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNIqkSzSKc responding realistically]] to crashing their car into a boat whereas later films (due to actors' contracts) has the cast be [[InvincibleHero Invincible Heroes]] who just shrug off numerous crashes without so much as a scratch.

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** ''Film/TwoFastTwoFurious'' got slammed with poor reviews when it released in 2003 with many decrying the lack of Creator/VinDiesel and the more comical tone compared to the sleek and edgy first film to the point where a lot of people treated it like a direct-to-DVD sequel. Nowadays with the Fast saga getting more and more ego-driven, many now view the second film as refreshing precisely because it's less straight-faced thanks to Creator/TyreseGibson's Roman being plenty of fun and it gives Brian room to breath as a character without being joined at the hip to Dom -- something even more appreciated after Creator/PaulWalker's passing.death. The second film also wasn't afraid to depict its heroes as vulnerable and [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJNIqkSzSKc responding realistically]] to crashing their car into a boat whereas later films (due to actors' contracts) has the cast be [[InvincibleHero Invincible Heroes]] who just shrug off numerous crashes without so much as a scratch.
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** ''Film/{{Predators}}'' was sadly only a "moderate" success when it initially released in 2010 coming behind both ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1'' and ''Twilight: Eclipse'' on its opening weekend. It also largely got mixed to average reviews with an audience score of 52% and other reviews from Metacritic and UsefulNotes/CinemaScore giving the film average "C+" reviews, citing the characters as flat. Probably not helped by the fact both ''Film/AlienVsPredator'' and ''Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem'' were still very fresh in moviegoers' memories and 2010 being a big year for blockbusters. Since then however aided by the poor reception to ''Film/ThePredator'', ''Predators'' has steadily gotten more and more acclaim with people acknowledging it's actually a pretty damn excellent and underrated action film with a unique concept and good twists as well as having a very off-kilter performance from ''Film/ThePianist'''s Creator/AdrienBrody. It's now generally considered easily the best follow up to the 1987 film, rivalled only by ''Film/Prey2022''.

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** ''Film/{{Predators}}'' was sadly only a "moderate" success when it initially released in 2010 coming behind both ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1'' and ''Twilight: Eclipse'' on its opening weekend. It also largely got mixed to average reviews with an audience score of 52% and other reviews from Metacritic and UsefulNotes/CinemaScore MediaNotes/CinemaScore giving the film average "C+" reviews, citing the characters as flat. Probably not helped by the fact both ''Film/AlienVsPredator'' and ''Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem'' were still very fresh in moviegoers' memories and 2010 being a big year for blockbusters. Since then however aided by the poor reception to ''Film/ThePredator'', ''Predators'' has steadily gotten more and more acclaim with people acknowledging it's actually a pretty damn excellent and underrated action film with a unique concept and good twists as well as having a very off-kilter performance from ''Film/ThePianist'''s Creator/AdrienBrody. It's now generally considered easily the best follow up to the 1987 film, rivalled only by ''Film/Prey2022''.
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** ''Film/{{Predators}}'' was sadly only a "moderate" success when it initially released in 2010 coming behind both ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' and ''Twilight: Eclipse'' on its opening weekend. It also largely got mixed to average reviews with an audience score of 52% and other reviews from Metacritic and UsefulNotes/CinemaScore giving the film average "C+" reviews, citing the characters as flat. Probably not helped by the fact both ''Film/AlienVsPredator'' and ''Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem'' were still very fresh in moviegoers' memories and 2010 being a big year for blockbusters. Since then however aided by the poor reception to ''Film/ThePredator'', ''Predators'' has steadily gotten more and more acclaim with people acknowledging it's actually a pretty damn excellent and underrated action film with a unique concept and good twists as well as having a very off-kilter performance from ''Film/ThePianist'''s Creator/AdrienBrody. It's now generally considered easily the best follow up to the 1987 film, rivalled only by ''Film/Prey2022''.

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** ''Film/{{Predators}}'' was sadly only a "moderate" success when it initially released in 2010 coming behind both ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1'' and ''Twilight: Eclipse'' on its opening weekend. It also largely got mixed to average reviews with an audience score of 52% and other reviews from Metacritic and UsefulNotes/CinemaScore giving the film average "C+" reviews, citing the characters as flat. Probably not helped by the fact both ''Film/AlienVsPredator'' and ''Film/AliensVsPredatorRequiem'' were still very fresh in moviegoers' memories and 2010 being a big year for blockbusters. Since then however aided by the poor reception to ''Film/ThePredator'', ''Predators'' has steadily gotten more and more acclaim with people acknowledging it's actually a pretty damn excellent and underrated action film with a unique concept and good twists as well as having a very off-kilter performance from ''Film/ThePianist'''s Creator/AdrienBrody. It's now generally considered easily the best follow up to the 1987 film, rivalled only by ''Film/Prey2022''.
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** Though it remains divisive, the overall opinion of ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' has improved over time. In particular a lot of fans look at it more fondly due to seeing it as something with more passion and creativity put into it compared to subsequent live-action Disney films.

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** Though it remains divisive, the overall opinion of ''Film/AliceInWonderland2010'' has improved over time. In particular particular, a lot of fans look at it more fondly due to seeing it as something with more passion and creativity put into it compared to subsequent live-action Disney films.
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** ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was a mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.

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** ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's its initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was a mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.
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** ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.

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** ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was a mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.
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** While ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.

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** While ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.
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this was from doctor strange 2016's ymmv page. Check it out here https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ymmv/doctorstrange2016

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** While ''Film/DoctorStrange'' wasn't considered bad by any means during it's initial release, but the general consensus was that while it did include some breathtaking special effects, it was mediocre story with a forgettable villain. After the extremely divisive reception of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness film's sequel]] however, many have looked back on this film in a much more favorable light. With a lot viewers appreciating this film's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused. Some now even consider it to be one of the best MCU origin stories.
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Removing the example: The film was already successful, and the reasoning violates the "sequel was worse so the first's better now" rule (that's not enough to qualify as vindication)


** ''Film/DoctorStrange'', despite being a success when initially released, was criticized for that even with outstanding [[SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome effects]], the film did have a mediocre story with a mediocre villain. Following the divisiveness of [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness its sequel]], many reevaluated the film with praise for it's more quiet and introspective tone, especially in the first half and the script being a lot tighter and more focused, resulting in many considering the film to be one of the best MCU origin stories.

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