History VillainousBreakdown / ComicBooks

16th Mar '17 10:32:35 AM morenohijazo
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* Like all villains created by Goscinny, ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}} is particularly susceptible to it. The fact he lives in a Palace where he (a megalonaniac aggressive EvilChancellor) seems to be the [[OnlySaneMan only one with some degree of sanity]] doesn't really help.

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* Like all villains created by Goscinny, ComicBook/{{Iznogoud}} is particularly susceptible to it. it; generally, if a story doesn't end with him suffering a FateWorseThanDeath, it will end with him sobbing or gibbering with insanity. The fact he lives in a Palace where he (a megalonaniac megalomaniac aggressive EvilChancellor) seems to be the [[OnlySaneMan only one with some degree of sanity]] doesn't really help.help.
** In "Tried and Tse-tsed", after the tsetse fly Iznogoud plans to use to get the Caliph to go to sleep permanently is sedated by the Caliph's cup of herbal tea and adopted as a pet by the genial ruler, the vizier is reduced to a babbling wreck whom Wa'at Alahf is forced to have committed.
** At the end of "The Lookalike", the Caliph and his doppelganger, Aristides Kingsizos, have met and bonded over a game of cards, and the formerly grouchy lookalike now talks and acts like the Caliph. On the palace steps, Iznogoud sobs to Wa'at Alahf that he tried to get rid of one Caliph and now he's stuck with ''two''. Then Aristides' business partner comes looking for him... and he turns out to be a dead ringer for Iznogoud, who goes catatonic with shock.
8th Jan '17 1:52:43 PM nombretomado
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* [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Magneto suffers a breakdown at the climax of ''{{Ultimatum}}'' when Jean Grey shares Nick Fury's memories with him and he learns that [[spoiler: the existence of mutants was just an accidental byproduct of a SuperSoldier experiment]]. This information shatters Magneto's delusions of grandeur and he completely loses the will to fight.

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* [[UltimateMarvel [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate]] Magneto suffers a breakdown at the climax of ''{{Ultimatum}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' when Jean Grey shares Nick Fury's memories with him and he learns that [[spoiler: the existence of mutants was just an accidental byproduct of a SuperSoldier experiment]]. This information shatters Magneto's delusions of grandeur and he completely loses the will to fight.
29th Dec '16 2:25:23 PM Gregzilla
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* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker suffered a truly epic one in ''ComicBook/EmperorJoker''. Let's recap: He steals [[GreatGazoo Mxyzptlk's]] powers, turns the ''entire universe'' into his playground, begins the [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt end of Time, Space, and Existence]], and he tears Superman's heart out and eats it. [[spoiler: As he lies dying, Superman dares Joker to kill Batman. Joker does so, but right after he does, Batman reappears, good as new. Confused, Joker tries it again and again, growing increasingly frantic as Batman repeatedly comes back, going as far as to [[BreakingTheFourthWall beg the writers and artists to let him finish Batman off]]. Superman [[BreakingSpeech taunts him, revealing that despite having all that power, Joker is still nothing but a clown, unable to do anything useful with his life and needing Batman to have any purpose at all]]. As Joker breaks down, Mxyzptlk uses the opening to take his powers back and fix everything.]]

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* SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker suffered a truly epic one in ''ComicBook/EmperorJoker''. Let's recap: He steals [[GreatGazoo Mxyzptlk's]] powers, turns the ''entire universe'' into his playground, begins the [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt end of Time, Space, and Existence]], and he tears Superman's heart out and eats it. [[spoiler: As he lies dying, Superman dares Joker to kill Batman. Joker does so, but right after he does, Batman reappears, good as new. Confused, Joker tries it again and again, growing increasingly frantic as Batman repeatedly comes back, going as far as to [[BreakingTheFourthWall beg the writers and artists to let him finish Batman off]]. Superman [[BreakingSpeech taunts him, him]], revealing that [[PowerfulAndHelpless despite having all that power, Joker is still nothing but a clown, unable to do anything useful with his life and needing Batman to have any purpose at all]]. As Joker breaks down, Mxyzptlk uses the opening to take his powers back and fix everything.]]
29th Dec '16 2:23:46 PM Gregzilla
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** It finally happened in ComicBook/{{Siege}} #3. Though after all the buildup it was given, and the ''masterful'' snap he had in Thunderbolts, readers found this one ([[spoiler:a painted up face, jeans and a t-shirt under the armor, and nonsensical babbling about how his plans to save everything from the Void had been ruined]]) more than a little underwhelming. The part ''before'' that ([[spoiler: where he flat-out orders Sentry to bring down ''the entire floating city of Asgard'']]) was much better.

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** It finally happened in ComicBook/{{Siege}} #3. Though after all the buildup it was given, and the ''masterful'' snap he had in Thunderbolts, readers found this one ([[spoiler:a painted up face, jeans and a t-shirt under the armor, and nonsensical babbling about how his plans to save everything from the Void had been ruined]]) more than a little underwhelming. The part ''before'' that ([[spoiler: where ([[spoiler:where he flat-out orders Sentry to bring down ''the entire floating city of Asgard'']]) was much better.
29th Dec '16 2:21:52 PM Gregzilla
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** He gets a worse one in a story in ''ComicBook/ActionComics''. After traveling across the planet and in space in an attempt to regain something like the Orange Lantern Power Ring, Luthor gains the powers of a creature from the Phantom Zone and proceeds to use it to torture Superman. Once he finds out that Superman is Clark Kent, though, he ''loses it''. It gets worse as he manages to make the universe perfect for a few minutes. He swiftly learns, however, that in order to cement this power, he must let go of all the hatred in his heart... including his hatred for Superman. Supes, being Supes, begs him to let go of their old grudges. Lex's response? "'''YOU ''DARE'' TO LECTURE ME?'''" And thus was universal bliss ended. And tucked away in Arkham, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker laughs away at what Luthor had done.

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** He gets a worse one in a story in ''ComicBook/ActionComics''.''ComicBook/TheBlackRing''. After traveling across the planet and in space in an attempt to regain something like the Orange Lantern Power Ring, Luthor gains the powers of a creature from the Phantom Zone and proceeds to use it to torture Superman. Once he finds out that Superman is Clark Kent, though, he ''loses it''. It gets worse as he manages to make the universe perfect for a few minutes. He swiftly learns, however, that in order to cement this power, he must let go of all the hatred in his heart... not use this power for violence... including his hatred for Superman. against Superman, who is right in front of him. Supes, being Supes, begs him to let go of their old grudges.grudges in the name of unending peace. Lex's response? "'''YOU ''DARE'' TO LECTURE ME?'''" And thus was universal bliss ended. And tucked away in Arkham, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker laughs away at what Luthor had done.
29th Dec '16 2:19:54 PM Gregzilla
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--->'''Swordsman''': ...mother.
--->'''The Green Goblin''': YOU DIDN'T HAVE A MOTHER! A pig coughed, and you fell out!
** Later comics in "Comicbook/DarkReign" made it pretty clear that for all Norman's VillainWithGoodPublicity act, he was most of the time a hop, skip and jump away from a full psychotic breakdown. And having to maintain a good public reputation as the head of the Initiative only helped slowly push him closer to one. As was particularly cruelly lampshaded in a BreakingSpeech delivered to Norman by the Molecule Man, it was a default position amongst the main players of the Marvel Universe that it wasn't not so much a question of "Will Norman crack under the strain?" as "''When'' will Norman crack under the strain?" Several of them were waiting for his breakdown since he first took power.

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--->'''Swordsman''': ...mother.
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Green Goblin''': YOU DIDN'T HAVE A MOTHER! A pig coughed, and you fell out!
** Later comics in "Comicbook/DarkReign" ''Comicbook/DarkReign'' made it pretty clear that for all Norman's VillainWithGoodPublicity act, he was most of the time a hop, skip and jump away from a full psychotic breakdown. And having to maintain a good public reputation as the head of the Initiative only helped slowly push him closer to one. As was particularly cruelly lampshaded in a BreakingSpeech delivered to Norman by the Molecule Man, it was a default position amongst the main players of the Marvel Universe that it wasn't not so much a question of "Will Norman crack under the strain?" as "''When'' will Norman crack under the strain?" Several of them were waiting for his breakdown since he first took power.
2nd Dec '16 2:18:46 AM EarsplittingLepidopteran
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*** Some of them weren't even real breakdowns. A few times it was just Loki using his magic powers to make Norman think he was hallucinating and [[http://cdn2us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/bolts14.jpg?itok=dTq_8KSh a hallway full of Spidermen did not help]].

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*** Some of them weren't even real breakdowns. A few times it was just Loki using his magic powers to make ** Norman think he was hallucinating and had a few smaller brakedowns when Loki gave him hallucinations, or when the [[{{ShapeShifting}} Skrulls]] turned into a bunch of Spider-men [[http://cdn2us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/bolts14.jpg?itok=dTq_8KSh a hallway full of Spidermen did not help]]. jpg?itok=dTq_8KShto screw with him]]
27th Nov '16 2:07:27 AM EarsplittingLepidopteran
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** "Norman will do what it takes, he won't mind. Norman will make [[TheGwenStacy the girl]] [[RetCon pregnant]] then [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou snap her neck in public]]."
** It gets even better when he finally gives in and becomes the Goblin again.

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** "Norman will do what it takes, he won't mind. Norman will make [[TheGwenStacy the girl]] [[RetCon pregnant]] then [[NotTheFallThatKillsYou snap her neck in public]]."
public]]".
** It gets even better when he finally gives in and becomes the Goblin again.again, and all it took was the mere mention of ''Spider''.



*** Some of them weren't even real breakdowns. A few times it was just Loki using his magic powers to make Norman think he was hallucinating.
*** For Osborn, the Goblin ''is'' a villainous breakdown. When the cool, collected VillainWithGoodPublicity and master of [[GambitIndex every gambit in the index]] has his plans go off the rails and he reaches the point that he starts screaming and ranting and cackling and throwing pumpkin bombs, you know it's all over. He wasn't always portrayed this way (once it was decent Osborn having the PsychoSerum take over, and he'd be defeated and forget he was the Green Goblin until next time.) Of course, the truth of the situation in Osborn's head is that Osborn on a good day is about as sane as the Joker on a ''bad'' day, and he can only act otherwise for so long. When the situation goes off the rails, this ability is strained.

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*** Some of them weren't even real breakdowns. A few times it was just Loki using his magic powers to make Norman think he was hallucinating.
hallucinating and [[http://cdn2us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/bolts14.jpg?itok=dTq_8KSh a hallway full of Spidermen did not help]].
*** For Osborn, the Goblin ''is'' a villainous breakdown. When the cool, collected VillainWithGoodPublicity and master of [[GambitIndex every gambit in the index]] has his plans go off the rails and he reaches the point that he starts screaming and ranting and cackling and throwing pumpkin bombs, you know it's all over. He wasn't always portrayed this way (once it was decent Osborn having the PsychoSerum take over, and he'd be defeated and forget he was the Green Goblin until next time.) Of course, the truth of the situation in Osborn's head is that Osborn on a good day is about as sane as the Joker on a ''bad'' day, and he can only act otherwise for so long. When the situation goes off the rails, this ability is strained.strained, but putting Peter Parker aka ComicBook/{{Spiderman}} anywhere in his close vicinity will set Norman off regardless of whatever reputation he has to hold.


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** ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily, Joker spends the whole comic trying to prove to Batman his loved ones are [[TheyWereHoldingYouBack only holding him back]] and after saving his Bat family has a brutal fight with him in the underground, Batman sets the Joker off by revealing his family makes him stronger
--> '''LIAR!!! YOU KNOW THEY DO ANYTHING BUT'''.
** And who could ever forget the [[http://bensbargains.com/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/The-Killing-Joke-2.jpg literally birth]] of the Joker in ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''
25th Oct '16 7:38:13 AM VPhantom
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* In ''YTheLastMan'', the opium smuggler Yorick befriends and falls for on the journey to Australia justifies her trade by reasoning that humanity is already doomed, and all she's doing is making people's lives easier by giving them an escape from this awful knowledge. Then, she [[HeelRealization realizes]] that Yorick's survival means that humanity has hope after all, and all she's done is make things worse by creating further misery and despair. [[DrivenToSuicide She doesn't]] [[RedemptionEqualsDeath take it well]].

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* In ''YTheLastMan'', ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'', the opium smuggler Yorick befriends and falls for on the journey to Australia justifies her trade by reasoning that humanity is already doomed, and all she's doing is making people's lives easier by giving them an escape from this awful knowledge. Then, she [[HeelRealization realizes]] that Yorick's survival means that humanity has hope after all, and all she's done is make things worse by creating further misery and despair. [[DrivenToSuicide She doesn't]] [[RedemptionEqualsDeath take it well]].
14th Sep '16 11:03:06 AM Morgenthaler
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** It gets [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome even better]] when he finally gives in and becomes the Goblin again.

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** It gets [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome even better]] better when he finally gives in and becomes the Goblin again.
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