History VillainHasAPoint / LiveActionFilms

* ''Film/KingdomOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': [[BigBad Proxima]] chides [[TheHero Noa]] for allying with a human, telling him humans are selfish, lying creatures who only care about themselves. Mae's behaviour over the course of the movie does little to disprove Proxima's opinions, continuously keeping secrets from Noa and working for the ultimate goal of reestablishing humans as the dominant race on Earth, going to repugnant moral extremes to do so, and once everything is said and done Noa outright says to her that Proxima was right about humans, despite otherwise despising everything about him.

* ''Film/BillyMadison'': While Eric is a CorruptCorporateExecutive extraordinare and all-around sleazebag (to the point of [[spoiler:literally having no knowledge of business ethics whatsoever]]), he correctly points out that the fifty thousand employees working at Madison Hotels probably won't keep their jobs for very long if an immature slacker like Billy is in charge, especially since Billy didn't actually finish school legitimately (his teachers were bribed into passing him). Not only does this temporarily convince Billy's father to hand the reins over to Eric, Billy decides after some CharacterDevelopment that [[spoiler:he's not cut out for managing a large company and gives it to Carl, who's a good businessman in both senses of the term since he's honest and competent]].
* ''Film/BlackPanther2018'': The heroes actually agree with Killmonger that Wakanda's isolationism is basically just an excuse to keep all their toys to themselves, and that they've caused massive suffering by not intervening in things like the slave trade or [[Film/TheAvengers2012 those]] [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld two]] alien invasions the Avengers had to fend off. The major point of disagreement is Killmonger's conviction that the best way to go about it is to arm black people with Wakandan tech to start a massive worldwide race war that would end with black people being the new oppressors. T'Challa's solution involves Wakandan outreach centers in vulnerable locales, plus pitching in with the [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar next]] [[Film/AvengersEndgame two]] alien invasions.
* Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy:
** In ''Film/BatmanBegins'', Henri Ducard cautions Bruce that his compassion is a weakness his adversaries will exploit, which Bruce shoots down insisting compassion is what separates them from their opponents. [[spoiler:Sure enough his saving Henri's life allows the man, who is actually [[BigBad Ra's Al Ghul]], to come back and nearly destroy Gotham. Sure enough the second time around Bruce doesn't make that same mistake: he remarks that he won't kill Ra's but won't save him this time either, coldly leaving Ra's to die on a runaway train.]]
** In ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', one of the reasons why the Joker is so effective a villain is that he's very good at pointing out the flaws in the principles of others, and exploiting those flaws to his advantage. Some examples are: 1) He immediately recognizes that Batman is the real reason why organized crime is threatened in Gotham and points this out to the mob, which causes the mob to hire the Joker when they realize he was right, giving the Joker access to Gotham's underworld. 2) He exploits the fact that Batman really is an unlawful vigilante by promising to kill people until Batman unmasks, turning the city and the cops against Batman. 3) He convinces Harvey Dent to become Two-Face by telling Dent that the so-called justice system that he supports is filled with corrupt people who constantly tolerate corruption and profit from crime, which is true since Jim Gordon is forced to work with suspect cops in order to have enough men to do his job. 4) He constantly claims that people are complacent and corruptible and backs up his beliefs by putting people in a position where they have to choose to obey the law and their principles, or lose something they dearly love (only Batman consistently demonstrates his incorruptibility).
** Behind the back of his mobster employers, Joker remarks that their desire for things to go back to how they were before Batman showed up is futile. Of course in the context where he brings this up, he isn't inferring this is a good thing, since Joker is taking the opportunity provided by Batman to put Gotham on the path to becoming an even worse place than before he showed up.
* ''Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse'':
** ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': While [[spoiler:Ares]] does give mankind new ideas for killing each other, he reveals to Wonder Woman that the humans carried out war crimes entirely on their own volition and that [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humanity is naturally inclined to violence]]. Given that UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and several other conflicts occur after his death and without his direct influence, to say nothing of the CrapsackWorld that is the [=DCEU=], [[spoiler:Ares]] is not entirely wrong. This is acknowledged by Wonder Woman herself in the final scene when she acknowledges that even if she can't change all of humanity, she can still save one human life at a time.
** In ''Film/Shazam2019'', when Billy and the foster kids hide themselves among the attendees at the festival, Silvana calls them out for endangering innocent people.

* ''Film/XMenFilmSeries''
** The villain in ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' is so extremely anti-mutant that he would experiment on and enslave his own son to exterminate them all. In the process he enslaves another mutant to attack the president of the US, just so he can offer a target for the president to authorize an attack on. Before the strike, though, an objection is made that the target is a school. The villain responds sarcastically "Sure it is," showing x-ray imagery of a secret jet underneath the school's basketball court. A dispassionate observer should note that that is actually extremely suspicious. Normally schools don't have military-grade equipment hidden in their facility, and after all "schools" in some parts of the world have been used as recruiting centers/supply bases/etcetera by terrorist organizations before -- both for the purpose of camouflage, and making attacks on them politically troublesome. Not to mention, locations protected by the [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar Law of Armed Conflict]], like churches, schools, and historically important locales, ''forfeit that protection'' if they're used for a military purpose and Xavier's school would be a legally valid military target. The president then orders a non-lethal infiltration and capture mission, which from his position is entirely reasonable.
** ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' presents the inverse of the situation seen in ''[=X1=]''. This time, it's the government who takes the side of the mutants at Trask's Senate hearing and refuse to give the funding he needs to create the Sentinel program. The problem is that Trask has very well-founded fears that the audience can sympathize with. He correctly points out that the U.S. and Russia nearly went to war in the course of a single battle as a result of mutant intervention (which they officially deny, but are later seen to have removed several pieces of clothing and technology from and stored). After the Paris Peace Accord incident, he then points out that the participants include a man who can direct metal (and is the prime suspect/convicted prisoner in the death of a sitting U.S. President), another who believes that mutants will drive humanity into extinction, and a third who can shapeshift into anyone and order a nuclear strike if she felt like it. It doesn't justify his genocidal tendencies towards mutants, but these are some very real fears.
*** Trask went to a lot of trouble to convince {{Obstructive Bureaucrat}}s that mutants do exist, that they can be dangerous, and that America needs some kind of protection from them... and Magneto proved that Trask was ''[[TheExtremistWasRight completely right]]''.
** As said under ''Comics'' above, Magneto himself, especially in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' when the actual moment of the [[ForegoneConclusion inevitable break]] between him and Charles happens because he wants to retaliate against people who have just tried to kill all the mutants (including the ones to whom they are allied), in an attack solely motivated by fear of what they ''might'' do with their power rather than because the mutants were in any way aggressive towards them at the time. Charles protests that the men Magneto's immediately targeting were JustFollowingOrders, which unsurprisingly does not make the Holocaust-survivor relent.
** In fact throughout the entire movie series, Magneto is proven right time and time again about the potential danger humans pose. ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' saw him state the cure for mutations would be weaponized, and he was right. Now we saw it used against Magneto and his followers, mutant supremacists, but in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' the humans developed Sentinels that possessed an AdaptiveAbility to mutant powers. This led to the movie's BadFuture where mutants and any humans who sympathize with them are rounded up into internment camps in scenes remiscient of the Holocaust. In ''Film/{{Logan}}'', humans used GMO food[[note]] Corn syrup, to be specific[[/note]] to neutralize the X-gene.