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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Judas usually [[DeadpanSnarker has something sarcastic to say when the other characters are being silly]], but he delves into straight up BrutalHonesty at times, usually when they are either asking questions about his past or when he wants to teach Kyle AnAesop about heroism. Despite this, he is well-meaning most of the time.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Judas usually [[DeadpanSnarker has something sarcastic to say when the other characters are being silly]], but he delves into straight up BrutalHonesty at times, usually when they are either asking questions about his past or when he wants to teach Kyle AnAesop a lesson about heroism. Despite this, he is well-meaning most of the time.
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* DemotedToExtra: [[spoiler:Pierre de Chaltier]] is with the party the entire time, but has only a handful of speaking lines [[spoiler:before he dies.]]
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* GuysSmashGirlsShoot: While everyone in the game is a MagicKnight to some degree or other, the male party members all use some form of melee bladed weapon, while the female party members have either staves or are archers.
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* LateArrivalSpoiler:
** Judas' existence quickly spoils that [[spoiler:Leon betrayed the party and died in the first game.]]
** Looking at the player manual immediately spoils that Harold Berselius, assumed to be a man in the first game, [[SamusIsAGirl was a woman.]]

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''Tales of Destiny 2'' is the fourth mainline entry in the ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'', and a direct sequel to ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''. The game was released on November 28th, 2002 in Japan on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2.

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''Tales of Destiny 2'' is the fourth mainline entry in the ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'', and a direct sequel to ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''. The game was released on November 28th, 2002 in Japan on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2.
Platform/PlayStation2.



The game received an UpdatedReRelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable, released February 15th, 2007 in Japan.

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The game received an UpdatedReRelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable, Platform/PlayStationPortable, released February 15th, 2007 in Japan.



* BagOfSpilling: Only comes into play with [[spoiler: Leon]], and to be fair he's been [[spoiler: dead for a while.]] Subverted in that he still has [[spoiler: Chaltier, but using him would reveal his identity.]]

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* BagOfSpilling: Only comes into play with [[spoiler: Leon]], [[spoiler:Leon]], and to be fair he's been [[spoiler: dead [[spoiler:dead for a while.]] Subverted in that he still has [[spoiler: Chaltier, [[spoiler:Chaltier, but using him would reveal his identity.]]



* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Elraine tries to force Judas into this by trapping him in a PsychologicalTormentZone.]] It doesn't work.

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* DespairEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Elraine [[spoiler:Elraine tries to force Judas into this by trapping him in a PsychologicalTormentZone.]] It doesn't work.



* TheDragon: [[spoiler: Barbatos is all too happy to fill this role for Elraine,]] though he could hardly care less about her goals.

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* TheDragon: [[spoiler: Barbatos [[spoiler:Barbatos is all too happy to fill this role for Elraine,]] though he could hardly care less about her goals.



* DuelingMessiahs: [[spoiler: Reala and Elraine, both saints of Fortuna trying to find the best way to guide humanity into happiness.]]

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* DuelingMessiahs: [[spoiler: Reala [[spoiler:Reala and Elraine, both saints of Fortuna trying to find the best way to guide humanity into happiness.]]



* ForWantOfANail: An alternate timeline is created when [[spoiler: Belcrant fires a direct hit on Radisrol, killing all the Swordian masters and Harold Berselius before they could invade Dycroft.]] Phandaria is utterly devastated as result, and the Er'thers only survive because of Elraine's intervention... Resulting in three {{Brainwashed}} [[TerminallyDependentSociety Terminally Dependent Societies]] being all that's left of humanity in general 1000 years later.
* GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul: Occurs in the BadFuture that Nanaly comes from. People the world over willingly trade in their aspirations to live under [[spoiler: Elraine's]] thumb, because she gives them everything they need. In the AlternateTimeline [[spoiler: Elraine]] pumps this up into a TerminallyDependentSociety.

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* ForWantOfANail: An alternate timeline is created when [[spoiler: Belcrant fires a direct hit on Radisrol, killing all the Swordian masters and Harold Berselius before they could invade Dycroft.]] Phandaria is utterly devastated as result, and the Er'thers only survive because of Elraine's intervention... Resulting in three {{Brainwashed}} [[TerminallyDependentSociety Terminally Dependent Societies]] being all that's left of humanity in general 1000 years later.
* GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul: Occurs in the BadFuture that Nanaly comes from. People the world over willingly trade in their aspirations to live under [[spoiler: Elraine's]] [[spoiler:Elraine's]] thumb, because she gives them everything they need. In the AlternateTimeline [[spoiler: Elraine]] [[spoiler:Elraine]] pumps this up into a TerminallyDependentSociety.



* LotusEaterMachine: The Illusion World dreams. All are [[HappyPlace happy places]] except Judas's, which is designed to drive him past the DespairEventHorizon by [[spoiler: making him relive his betrayal and death for eternity unless he agrees to serve Fortuna.]]

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* LotusEaterMachine: The Illusion World dreams. All are [[HappyPlace happy places]] except Judas's, which is designed to drive him past the DespairEventHorizon by [[spoiler: making [[spoiler:making him relive his betrayal and death for eternity unless he agrees to serve Fortuna.]]



* MeaningfulName: Kyle naming the mysterious swordsman "Judas". [[spoiler: He's Leon Magnus, BackFromTheDead.]]

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* MeaningfulName: Kyle naming the mysterious swordsman "Judas". [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's Leon Magnus, BackFromTheDead.]]



* PlotHole: A small one, but when Harold [[spoiler: brings the Swordians out to use as a power source for TimeTravel,]] Berselius is among them. The whole first game's plot hinges on that sword having been left in the ruins of Dycroft as a tribute to Karell Berselius. [[spoiler: Seeing as the end of the game retcons the whole story, this might not be too much of a problem, but it's still a bit jarring to see after a scene telling people [[AesopAmnesia not to meddle with the past.]]]]

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* PlotHole: A small one, but when Harold [[spoiler: brings [[spoiler:brings the Swordians out to use as a power source for TimeTravel,]] Berselius is among them. The whole first game's plot hinges on that sword having been left in the ruins of Dycroft as a tribute to Karell Berselius. [[spoiler: Seeing [[spoiler:Seeing as the end of the game retcons the whole story, this might not be too much of a problem, but it's still a bit jarring to see after a scene telling people [[AesopAmnesia not to meddle with the past.]]]]]]]]
* PointOfDivergence: An alternate timeline is created when [[spoiler:Belcrant fires a direct hit on Radisrol, killing all the Swordian masters and Harold Berselius before they could invade Dycroft.]] Phandaria is utterly devastated as result, and the Er'thers only survive because of Elraine's intervention... Resulting in three {{Brainwashed}} [[TerminallyDependentSociety Terminally Dependent Societies]] being all that's left of humanity in general 1000 years later.



* RetCon: The whole point of [[spoiler: Elraine changing the past, to make herself appear even more like TheMessiah and remove resistance to Fortuna's will.]]

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* RetCon: The whole point of [[spoiler: Elraine [[spoiler:Elraine changing the past, to make herself appear even more like TheMessiah and remove resistance to Fortuna's will.]]



** In his LotusEaterMachine, Judas had to choose between submitting to Fortuna's will and betraying his new friends [[DealWithTheDevil (in exchange for a place in history as a hero)]], or being forced to relive [[spoiler: betraying his old ones and drowning]] forever. [[spoiler: He chooses the latter, but is fortunately saved from having to go through with it.]]

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** In his LotusEaterMachine, Judas had to choose between submitting to Fortuna's will and betraying his new friends [[DealWithTheDevil (in exchange for a place in history as a hero)]], or being forced to relive [[spoiler: betraying [[spoiler:betraying his old ones and drowning]] forever. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He chooses the latter, but is fortunately saved from having to go through with it.]]



* ScrewDestiny: Implied by the game's tagline; "To release Destiny". Eventually, it is done [[spoiler: by Reala and possibly Judas]], who come back despite this supposedly being impossible.

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* ScrewDestiny: Implied by the game's tagline; "To release Destiny". Eventually, it is done [[spoiler: by [[spoiler:by Reala and possibly Judas]], who come back despite this supposedly being impossible.



* ShipTease: Loni and Nanaly, to the point of just being shy of an OfficialCouple. Judas and Harold also get shipping moments, as do [[spoiler: Leon]] and Philia. Kyle and Reala ''are'' an OfficialCouple by the end.

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* ASharedSuffering: Loni and Nanaly bond [[spoiler:over having experienced similar sorts of guilt - they both blame themselves for the death of a loved one.]]
* ShipTease: Loni and Nanaly, to the point of just being shy of an OfficialCouple. Judas and Harold also get shipping moments, as do [[spoiler: Leon]] [[spoiler:Leon]] and Philia. Kyle and Reala ''are'' an OfficialCouple by the end.
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* OffModel: The manga takes a lot of... Creative liberties with the character designs.
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* TemporalAbortion: Barbatos Goetia develops a deep, seething hatred towards Kyle that leads to him eventually plotting to go back in time and kill his parents before he's concieved.

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* MindRape: Attempted on [[spoiler: Judas]], though he resists long enough for a BigDamnHeroes moment to save him.



* MysteriousWaif: The game's plot begins in earnest when Reala appears and states that she is searching for a "hero who can change history." Kyle knows the CallToAdventure when he sees it, and he resolves to convince Reala that he really is the hero she's looking for.

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* MysteriousWaif: The game's plot begins in earnest when Reala appears and states that she is searching for a "hero who can change history." She is a girl on a mission. Kyle knows the immediately identifies that mission as a CallToAdventure when he sees it, and he resolves to convince Reala that he really is the hero she's looking for.



* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler:Defeating Fortuna erases all of her influence from the timeline, including the events of the game and the existence of Reala and Elraine.]] The epilogue shows that despite this, there appears to be ''some'' ontological inertia for the player characters, who still end up being pretty much the same people they were during the game. [[spoiler:Plus, Reala is reborn due to ThePowerOfLove, and Judas is not 100% RetGone and may be out there somewhere.]]

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* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler:Defeating Fortuna erases causes her to cease to have ever existed, and this nullifies Reala, Elraine, and all of her influence from the timeline, including actions they took to motivate the events of the game and the existence of Reala and Elraine.protagonists to act.]] The epilogue shows that despite this, there appears to be ''some'' ontological inertia for the player characters, who still end up being pretty much the same people they were during the game. [[spoiler:Plus, Reala is reborn due to ThePowerOfLove, and Judas is not 100% RetGone and may be out there somewhere.]]



Judas' illusion world is different in that it is intentional psychological torture by making him relive his past misdeeds. He manages to endure it long enough for a BigDamnHeroes moment to save him.

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Judas' illusion world is different in that it is intentional psychological a straightforward representation of the trope intended to torture him by making him relive his past misdeeds. He manages to endure it long enough for a BigDamnHeroes moment BigDamnHeroes moment to save him.



* ResetButton: [[spoiler:The ending. Fortuna is defeated, which erases all of her influence from the timeline, including the events of the game and the existence of Reala and Elraine. The epilogue shows that despite this, the party members still grow up to be pretty much the same people they were during the game, and Reala is reborn due to ThePowerOfLove. Judas may also have survived]].

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* ResetButton: [[spoiler:The ending. Fortuna is defeated, which erases all [[spoiler:All of her influence from the timeline, including the events of the game are wiped from history in the end, and while this is bittersweet, it also undoes the characters' tragic backstories. Stahn isn't killed, so Kyle grows up with his dad around and Loni isn't saddled with guilt. Nanaly is spared responsibility for the fate of her brother Rue, and the existence of Reala and Elraine. The epilogue shows gives the player the opportunity to cure his illness.]] Plus, the characters have partial RippleEffectProofMemory. [[spoiler:Just as Kyle insisted to his friends before they all part ways, the ties that despite this, the party members still grow up bind them to be pretty much the same people they were during the game, and each other did not disappear. Reala is reborn due and has a happy reunion with Kyle. And even Judas, who presumably snaps back to ThePowerOfLove. Judas may also have survived]].being dead, is not completely forgotten at the very least.]]



** After Barbatos was defeated in the original timeline, it was judged that his crimes were so great that he was to be completely written out of history. The reason he fights as Elraine's [[TheDragon Dragon]] is to prove to the world he actually does exist and is [[BlatantLies worthy of being a hero]]. This is also the ultimate fate of [[spoiler:Fortuna, as well as Elraine. Reala... well, she gets better]].
** Thanks to TimeTravel, [[spoiler: Judas does this to himself.]] Maybe.

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** After Barbatos was defeated in the original timeline, it was judged that his crimes were so great that he was to be completely written out of history. The reason he fights as Elraine's [[TheDragon Dragon]] is to prove to the world he actually does exist and is [[BlatantLies worthy of being a hero]]. This hero]].
** The last big plot twist
is also that [[spoiler:killing Fortuna will erase her from the ultimate fate of [[spoiler:Fortuna, as well as Elraine. Reala... well, timeline, nullifying every action she gets better]].
** Thanks
has taken - including the creation of Elraine and Reala. Since Elraine resurrected Judas, his existence is forfeit too.]] It's very nearly enough to TimeTravel, [[spoiler: Judas does this to himself.]] Maybe.make Kyle give up on his dream of being a hero.



* SayMyName: '''REAAAALAAAAAAA!'''

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* SayMyName: '''REAAAALAAAAAAA!''' SayMyName:
--> '''Kyle:''' '''REAAAALAAAAAAA!'''



* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [[spoiler:During the epilogue, you can take a sidequest where you save Nanaly's brother from death by getting him the medicine he needs to live.]]

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* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong [[spoiler:During the epilogue, you can take a SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: A sidequest where you available [[spoiler:during the epilogue allows the player to save Nanaly's brother from death by getting him the medicine he needs to live.]]



* TimeTravel

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* TimeTravelThemeNaming: Barbatos and a handful of minor named antagonists are named after demons catalogued in the in the ''Literature/ArsGoetia''.
* TimeTravel: A major element of the plot. A number of time travel sub-tropes are represented, including SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight, AlternateTimeline, and StableTimeLoop. But not YouCantFightFate, because you absolutely can, and indeed must, fight fate. This is the "''RPG to Release Destiny''", after all.



* TomboyishName: Harold calls herself Harold in order to deceive the history books into believing that the famed genius and creator of the Swordians was male. At least, according to her that was "one of twenty-one reasons" why she did it.

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* TomboyishName: Harold calls herself Harold in order to deceive the history books into believing that the famed genius and creator of the Swordians was male.a man. At least, according to her that was "one of twenty-one reasons" why she did it.



* {{Tsundere}}: Nanaly is a type B, nice around everyone except Loni, who tends to hit her BerserkButton a lot.

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* {{Tsundere}}: Nanaly is a type B, generally sweet. She is nice around everyone except Loni, who tends to hit her BerserkButton a lot.



* WhiteMagicianGirl: Reala learns the most complete suite of healing magic in the game. While she is not limited to just healing magic, she is best utilized casting spells at a distance.

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* WhiteMagicianGirl: Reala learns the most complete suite of healing magic in the game. While she is not limited to just healing magic, she is still best utilized casting spells at a distance.

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** Nanaly is good at putting up a confident front about her defining tragedy, [[spoiler:but behind it, she is overwhelmed with doubt and regret about not giving in to Elraine when it could have saved her brother's life.]]



* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:Judas]], although it is later hinted that Kyle has some lingering memory of [[spoiler:him, and Stahn has his mask]]. Averted by [[spoiler:Reala]], who [[spoiler:is revived and brought back to the timeline due to Kyle's strong heart]]. Effectively, this actually counts for [[spoiler:Nanaly and Harold]], too, as [[spoiler: The Nanaly Kyle knew was from the future. The Nanaly they could have met in their time would have only been nine years old. In Harold's case, she was from the past as Judas was]].



* CoolBigSis: Nanaly is older than Kyle and Reala, who look up to the way she is fierce to her foes, but nurturing to her friends. She is resourceful and steps into the TeamMom role by both hunting and cooking meals.

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* CoolBigSis: Nanaly is older than Kyle and Reala, who look up to admire the way she is fierce to her foes, but nurturing to her friends. She is resourceful and steps into the TeamMom role by both hunting and cooking meals.meals.
* CoolMask: Judas wears a mask made from a dragon skull, and lives up to the expectation of being awesome in terms of both narrative and gameplay favorability.



* TheFellowshipHasEnded: It ends immediately [[spoiler:after Kyle destroys the lens that manifested Fortuna. The party members are pulled out of the collapsing timeline one by one, with Kyle the last one to go.]]



* HandsomeLech: Loni adheres to this trope slightly, being the only guy who ''dreams'' about flirting.
* HappyPlace: The Illusion Worlds, barring Judas's.

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* HandsomeLech: Loni adheres fancies himself one, but isn't actually skilled enough at flirting to this trope slightly, being the only guy who ''dreams'' about flirting.
* HappyPlace: The Illusion Worlds, barring Judas's.
pull it off. In reality he's more of a ChivalrousPervert.



* HumansAreFlawed: As is common with the ''Tales Series'', the upper rank antagonists are {{Well Intentioned Extremist|s}}. [=ToD2=] acknowledges that they want to create happiness by compensating for humanity's flaws, and humanity ''is'' flawed. But their idea of happiness is inflexible, and the game's message is that everyone has to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn their happy ending]] by overcoming their flaws.

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* HumansAreFlawed: As is common with the ''Tales Series'', the upper rank antagonists are {{Well Intentioned Extremist|s}}. [=ToD2=] [[WellIntentionedExtremist pursue noble ends using harmful means]]. ''[=ToD2=]'' acknowledges that they want to create happiness by compensating for humanity's flaws, and humanity ''is'' flawed. But their idea of happiness is inflexible, and the game's message is that everyone has to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn their happy ending]] by overcoming their flaws.



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Judas may be a DeadpanSnarker, but he delves into straight up BrutalHonesty at times, usually when people are either asking questions about his past or when he wants to teach Kyle AnAesop about heroism. Despite this, he is well-meaning, most of the time.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Judas may be a DeadpanSnarker, usually [[DeadpanSnarker has something sarcastic to say when the other characters are being silly]], but he delves into straight up BrutalHonesty at times, usually when people they are either asking questions about his past or when he wants to teach Kyle AnAesop about heroism. Despite this, he is well-meaning, well-meaning most of the time.



* MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight: The second half of the game revolves around [[spoiler:trying to avert the AlternateTimeline Elraine creates by changing the outcome of the Aeth'er War.]]



* MaskPower: Judas.



* MysteriousWaif: Reala

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* MysteriousWaif: RealaThe game's plot begins in earnest when Reala appears and states that she is searching for a "hero who can change history." Kyle knows the CallToAdventure when he sees it, and he resolves to convince Reala that he really is the hero she's looking for.



* NoGuyWantsAnAmazon: Only in Loni's mind, regarding the tomboyish Nanaly. He often receives a bone crusher in return.
* NoodlePeople: The art style of the official game art. The actual sprites used in game, however, have more normal proportions, for the most part.

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* NoGuyWantsAnAmazon: Only in Loni's mind, regarding the Loni likes to tease Nanaly about her tomboyish Nanaly. He often receives a bone crusher nature as an immature, [[LovingBully pulling-your-crush's-pigtails]] way of getting her attention. She pays him back for this by putting him in return.
submission holds.
* NoOntologicalInertia: [[spoiler:Defeating Fortuna erases all of her influence from the timeline, including the events of the game and the existence of Reala and Elraine.]] The epilogue shows that despite this, there appears to be ''some'' ontological inertia for the player characters, who still end up being pretty much the same people they were during the game. [[spoiler:Plus, Reala is reborn due to ThePowerOfLove, and Judas is not 100% RetGone and may be out there somewhere.]]
* NoodlePeople: The Mutsumi Inomata's art style of the official game art. makes for rather lanky characters - particularly Reala, who looks like a [[DelicateIsBeautiful walking, talking porcelain doll]]. The actual sprites used in game, however, have more normal proportions, proportions for the most part. part.



* PaperThinDisguise: Judas' mask: it's become a RunningGag in the VideoGame/TalesSeries of how poorly it functions as a means of concealing your identity. It doesn't help that Judas has an [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa incredibly distinctive voice]]. (The excuse in-game is that Judas chose the mask not for its face-hiding abilities, but because it's made of dragon bone, which offers excellent physical and magical protection.) Though it actually does work as a disguise, due to his discretion. Everyone in-game that would recognize him is either dead or he intentionally avoids.

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* PaperThinDisguise: Judas' mask: it's mask has become a RunningGag in the VideoGame/TalesSeries of ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'' due to how poorly it functions as a means of concealing your identity. It doesn't help that Judas has an [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa incredibly distinctive voice]]. (The excuse in-game is that Judas chose the mask not for its face-hiding abilities, but because it's made of dragon bone, which offers excellent physical and magical protection.) Though it actually does work as a disguise, due to Judas' discretion that keeps people from recognizing him rather than his discretion.''very attention-grabbing'' sartorial choices. Everyone in-game that would recognize him is either dead or he intentionally avoids.\\
The in-game justification is that Judas chose the mask not for its face-obscuring abilities, but because it's made of dragon bone, which offers excellent physical and magical protection.



* PsychologicalTormentZone: Judas's [[LotusEaterMachine Illusion World.]]

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* PsychologicalTormentZone: Judas's The [[LotusEaterMachine Illusion World.]]illusion worlds]] are sweet dreams designed to pacify their inhabitants, but they all end up uncovering the characters' emotional trauma before they are able to escape.\\
Judas' illusion world is different in that it is intentional psychological torture by making him relive his past misdeeds. He manages to endure it long enough for a BigDamnHeroes moment to save him.



** MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight: [[spoiler: The second half of the game revolves around trying to retcon this after Elraine changed history.]]



* WhiteMagicianGirl: Reala.
* YinYangBomb: Judas and Harold both.

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* WhiteMagicianGirl: Reala.
Reala learns the most complete suite of healing magic in the game. While she is not limited to just healing magic, she is best utilized casting spells at a distance.
* YinYangBomb: Both Judas and Harold both.can cast darkness-element and light-element spells.
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* TheAtoner: Both [[spoiler: Loni and Judas]], for different reasons.
* AxCrazy: Barbatos

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* TheAtoner: Both [[spoiler: Several characters have guilt in their backstory.
**It's not a spoiler to say that any hero who goes by the name Judas undoubtedly broke the trust of a friend. [[spoiler:And the game is not really trying to hide from the player that, as Leon Magnus, Judas betrayed ''everyone'' and heaped pain on the people who wanted to help him most. And now he's trying to make up for it by being a true friend and ally to the successors of those he hurt.]]
** It is not apparent from his usual behavior, [[spoiler:but
Loni blames himself for Stahn's death, and Judas]], for different reasons.
* AxCrazy: Barbatos
as a result puts Kyle's needs ahead of his own.]]



* BadassCreed: Judas' Majin Rengokusatsu (Infernal Suffering) monologue.
-->"Instant miracles are not brought to mix with life now. Time passes... Unite here and rise to the future! Righteous Holy Sword! I cut off the past... Scatter! Majin Rengokusatsu!"

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* BadassCreed: Judas' Majin Rengokusatsu (Infernal Suffering) (Transcendent Suffering[[note]]Majin Rengokusatsu is usually rendered as Infernal Suffering, but this version uses different kanji with a fewer demonic connotations[[/note]]) monologue.
-->"Instant miracles are not brought to mix with -->"To a life that went unfulfilled, a momentary miracle which could not be given in the now. Time passes... Unite here and rise to quicken unto the future! Righteous Holy Sword! I cut off the past... Scatter! Majin Rengokusatsu!"



* BadFuture: Nanaly hails from one.

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* BadFuture: Nanaly hails from one.future Calvalese - still inhospitable, still polluted, [[spoiler:but now the world's resources are heavily concentrated in Elraine's hands and distributed only to those who obey her.]]



* BloodKnight: Barbatos.
* BreastPlate: Nanaly.

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* BloodKnight: Barbatos.
* BreastPlate: Nanaly.
Fighting is what Barbatos does, and he seems to have a good time while he does it.



* ChainmailBikini: Nanaly's character design looks more cabaret-appropriate than combat-appropriate. That parts that look armor-like offer only a little more coverage than a bikini top, and it's coupled with a hot pants / ShowgirlSkirt combo.



* CoolBigSis: Nanaly.
* CorruptChurch: [[spoiler: Unlike most Tales games featuring a church, this one isn't actually evil. It's mostly Fortuna being crazy that's the problem.]]
* CrapsackWorld: Downplayed, but the world of ''Destiny 2'' is in a significantly worse state than the previous game; several towns were completely wiped off the map and the world as a whole is dealing with refugee crises that remain unresolved. Seinegald, once a world power, has collapsed into a weakly governed theocracy being infiltrated by a ChurchOfEvil. The Aquaveil islands seem to have been destroyed apart from the town of Sheeden, Fitzgald is now covered by a dense fog that renders travel nearly impossible, and Kalviola is still a desert filled with poisonous air populated by racists. The only continent that seems relatively unaffected is Phandaria, and it still struggles to feed and clothe its refugees.
* DeadpanSnarker: Judas. Harold also has her moments.

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* CoolBigSis: Nanaly.
Nanaly is older than Kyle and Reala, who look up to the way she is fierce to her foes, but nurturing to her friends. She is resourceful and steps into the TeamMom role by both hunting and cooking meals.
* CorruptChurch: [[spoiler: Unlike The Order of Atamoni is an honestly well-meaning religious organization, unlike most Tales games featuring a church, this one isn't actually evil. It's mostly Fortuna being crazy that's seen in the problem.''Tales Series''. [[spoiler:There was just no way they could resist the appeal of Elraine's actual, factual miracles enough to prevent her ideology from becoming their ideology.]]
* CrapsackWorld: Downplayed, but the world of ''Destiny 2'' is in a significantly worse state than the previous game; several towns were completely wiped off the map and the world as a whole is dealing with refugee crises that remain unresolved. Seinegald, once a world power, has collapsed into a weakly governed theocracy being infiltrated by a ChurchOfEvil. weakly-governed theocracy. The Aquaveil islands seem to have been destroyed apart from the town of Sheeden, and Fitzgald is now covered by a dense fog that renders travel nearly impossible, and Kalviola is impossible. Calvalese has not changed much - still a desert filled with poisonous air hazardous and populated by racists.suspicious, impoverished people. The only continent that seems relatively unaffected is Phandaria, and it still struggles to feed and clothe its refugees.
* DeadpanSnarker: Judas. Judas is snarky and his delivery is usually deadpan, making him a sterling example. While Harold also is anything but deadpan, she has her moments.moments. After all, if Judas is SurroundedByIdiots, as a genius it goes double for her.



* TheDragon: [[spoiler: Barbatos.]]

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* TheDragon: [[spoiler: Barbatos.]]Barbatos is all too happy to fill this role for Elraine,]] though he could hardly care less about her goals.



* DualWielding: Judas and Harold both.

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* DualWielding: Judas fights with a rapier and Harold both.a parrying dagger. As a magic specialist Harold's primary weapons are staffs, but she also equips daggers which she uses as a BladeOnARope.



* EasilyForgiven: Justified in [[spoiler: Judas's case.]] His past crimes occurred [[spoiler: 18 years ago, he was [[HostageForMacguffin reluctant to commit them in the first place]][[note]]Though seeing that this is more likely pre-remake [=ToD=], he might be a little bit more gleeful on betraying the team for Marian[[/note]],]] and none of the slights were against any of the other party members. Arguably, he has [[spoiler: also already been punished for them with death.]]
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: [[spoiler: Elraine and Fortuna]] believe that humans are too weak to take care of each other, and thus they need a more powerful guardian to rule their lives.
* ForWantOfANail: An alternate timeline is created when [[spoiler: Belcrant fires a direct hit on Radisol, killing all the Swordian masters and Harold Berselius before they could invade Dycroft.]] Phandaria is utterly devastated as result, and the Er'thers only survive because of Elraine's intervention... Resulting in three {{Brainwashed}} [[TerminallyDependentSociety Terminally Dependent Societies]] being all that's left of humanity in general 1000 years later.

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* EasilyForgiven: Justified in [[spoiler: Judas's case.]] His for [[spoiler:Judas]] - he already payed for his past crimes occurred [[spoiler: 18 years ago, he was [[HostageForMacguffin reluctant to commit them in through [[spoiler:his death, and the first place]][[note]]Though seeing that this is more likely pre-remake [=ToD=], he might be a little bit more gleeful on betraying [[HostageForMacGuffin extenuating circumstances]] behind his participation in nearly destroying the team for Marian[[/note]],]] and none world mitigates some of the slights were against any of blame.]] And besides, by the time his past is revealed the other party members. Arguably, he has [[spoiler: also heroes had already been punished for them with death.]]
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: [[spoiler: Elraine and Fortuna]] believe that humans are too weak to take care of each other, and thus
worked through any suspicion they need a more powerful guardian to rule had toward him, so their lives.
opinion of him does not shift much.
* ForWantOfANail: An alternate timeline is created when [[spoiler: Belcrant fires a direct hit on Radisol, Radisrol, killing all the Swordian masters and Harold Berselius before they could invade Dycroft.]] Phandaria is utterly devastated as result, and the Er'thers only survive because of Elraine's intervention... Resulting in three {{Brainwashed}} [[TerminallyDependentSociety Terminally Dependent Societies]] being all that's left of humanity in general 1000 years later.



* HumansAreFlawed: [=ToD2=] portrays its villains as practically being just because they want to compensate for humanity's flaws, and humanity ''is'' flawed. But the game's message is that everyone has to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn their happy ending]] by overcoming their flaws.

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* HumansAreFlawed: As is common with the ''Tales Series'', the upper rank antagonists are {{Well Intentioned Extremist|s}}. [=ToD2=] portrays its villains as practically being just because acknowledges that they want to compensate create happiness by compensating for humanity's flaws, and humanity ''is'' flawed. But their idea of happiness is inflexible, and the game's message is that everyone has to [[EarnYourHappyEnding earn their happy ending]] by overcoming their flaws.



* KnuckleCracking: Nanaly likes to crack Loni's bones, and at one point cracks her knuckles before delivering the bonecrusher.

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* KnuckleCracking: Nanaly likes to crack Loni's bones, and at one point cracks her knuckles Often Nanaly's warm-up move before delivering the bonecrusher.putting Loni into a [[WrestlerInAllOfUs submission hold]]. [[ComedicSociopathy Don't worry, he deserves it.]]



* MadScientist: Harold.
* MageMarksman: Nanaly.

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* MadScientist: Harold.
Harold's reputation for scientific ingenuity endures for centuries. One of the many things about her that did not make it into the historical record is how much of a kick she gets out of testing her experiments on her companions, whether they like it or not.
* MageMarksman: Nanaly.Nanaly is an archer, and like the rest of the playable characters she has access to an variety of magic attacks. Her Hi-Ougi involves charging a huge volley of arrows with magic.

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* SadisticChoice: Kyle had to choose between keeping the world enslaved to fate or killing the girl he loves.

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Kyle had to choose between keeping the world enslaved to fate or killing the girl he loves.


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* StableTimeLoop: The party completes one [[spoiler:after saving Stahn and co from Barbatos.]] It's revealed that the Swordians [[spoiler:lacked the numbers to stabilize the Eye of Atamoni and it was going to explode. Judas then reveals he still carries Chaltier and plunges him into the Eye, reuniting him with his friends and allowing them to contain the explosion.]] Because Stahn survives, he and Rutee have Kyle, starting off the plot of ''Tales of Destiny 2'' and allowing the aforementioned loop to happen.
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* AfterTheEnd:
** This game takes place 18 years after ''Tales of Destiny'', which ended with the world in ruin after the crust created by Dycroft broke up and rained down on the world. While some major population centres recovered, many towns were wiped off the map entirely and never rebuilt. The Kingdom of Seinegald, once a world power, has been reduced to a shell of its former self, with the continent having all but abandoned the monarchy in favor of following the Church of Aigrette and [[spoiler:later Fortuna.]] Aquaveil was also left devastated, with only a single town remaining.
** The BadFuture world [[spoiler:created by Elraine]] shows only four major cities remain in the entire world after [[spoiler:the Aetherians won the Aether Wars.]]

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* ArmorPiercingSlap: More like Armor Piercing Bone Crusher. Used by Nanaly on Loni. Reala also has a moment with Kyle when he [[spoiler: turns his back on being a hero to try to save her.]]



* NoGuyWantsAnAmazon: Only in Loni's mind, regarding the tomboyish Nanaly. He often receives a [[ArmorPiercingSlap bone crusher]] in return.

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* NoGuyWantsAnAmazon: Only in Loni's mind, regarding the tomboyish Nanaly. He often receives a [[ArmorPiercingSlap bone crusher]] crusher in return.
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Barbatos' reaction towards using items (or even spells) in this game is simply going invincible as the game puts up a subtitle of Barbatos mocking you for using items, while he casts a spell that won't be interrupted. When Barbatos reappears as a guest in future games, this particular anti-item trait is replaced by the Mystic Arte (or whatever you call it depending on the game) '''"NO ITEMS EVER!!"'''.
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* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Shares a page with the rest of the franchise [[AntiFrustrationFeatures/TalesSeries here]].
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''Tales of Destiny 2'' (not to be confused with ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' [[note]]When ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' was originally released in America, it was called "Tales of Destiny II" because the word "Eternia" was trademarked by the ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' franchise.[[/note]]) is the fourth title in Namco's ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'' and a direct sequel to ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''.

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''Tales of Destiny 2'' (not to be confused with ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' [[note]]When ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' was originally released in America, it was called "Tales of Destiny II" because the word "Eternia" was trademarked by the ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' franchise.[[/note]]) is the fourth title mainline entry in Namco's ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'' the ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'', and a direct sequel to ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''.
''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''. The game was released on November 28th, 2002 in Japan on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2.



First released in Japan in 2002, ''Tales of Destiny 2'' was the first Tales game on the [=PS2=] (and 6th generation consoles in general), and it [[NoExportForYou did not receive an English version release]]. The game got an UpdatedRerelease on PSP in 2007 which was only released in Japan.

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First The game received an UpdatedReRelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable, released February 15th, 2007 in Japan Japan.

Not to be confused with ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'', which was [[MarketBasedTitle marketed
in 2002, North America]] as ''Tales of Destiny 2'' was the first Tales game on the [=PS2=] (and 6th generation consoles in general), and it [[NoExportForYou did not receive an English version release]]. The game got an UpdatedRerelease on PSP in 2007 which was only released in Japan.
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* CrapsackWorld: Downplayed, but the world of ''Destiny 2'' is in a significantly worse state than the previous game; several towns were completely wiped off the map and the world as a whole is dealing with refugee crises that remain unresolved. Seinegald, once a world power, has collapsed into a weakly governed theocracy being infiltrated by a ChurchOfEvil. The Aquaveil islands seem to have been destroyed apart from the town of Sheeden, Fitzgald is now covered by a dense fog that renders travel nearly impossible, and Kalviola is still a desert filled with poisonous air populated by racists. The only continent that seems relatively unaffected is Phandaria, and it still struggles to feed and clothe its refugees.
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* DualBoss: Sabnock is accompanied in his boss fight by his leopard pet Ose.
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* JerkassFacade: Judas may be a DeadpanSnarker, but he delves into straight up BrutalHonesty at times, usually when people are either asking questions about his past or when he wants to teach Kyle AnAesop about heroism. Despite this, he is well-meaning, most of the time.

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* JerkassFacade: JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Judas may be a DeadpanSnarker, but he delves into straight up BrutalHonesty at times, usually when people are either asking questions about his past or when he wants to teach Kyle AnAesop about heroism. Despite this, he is well-meaning, most of the time.
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* SocializationBonus: According to WordOfGod, this is the reason for the disparity in power levels in [[LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards melee and magic]], as the battle system was designed for "co-operative play". Presumably, one person would control a fighter to keep the enemies occupied while another player spammed magic.
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''Tales of Destiny 2'' (not to be confused with ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' [[note]]When ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' was originally released in America, it was called "Tales of Destiny II" because the word "Eternia" was trademarked by the ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' franchise.[[/note]]) is the fourth title in Namco's ''Franchise/TalesSeries'' and a direct sequel to ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''.

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''Tales of Destiny 2'' (not to be confused with ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' [[note]]When ''VideoGame/TalesOfEternia'' was originally released in America, it was called "Tales of Destiny II" because the word "Eternia" was trademarked by the ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' franchise.[[/note]]) is the fourth title in Namco's ''Franchise/TalesSeries'' ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'' and a direct sequel to ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny''.



* PaperThinDisguise: Judas' mask: it's become a RunningGag in the TalesSeries of how poorly it functions as a means of concealing your identity. It doesn't help that Judas has an [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa incredibly distinctive voice]]. (The excuse in-game is that Judas chose the mask not for its face-hiding abilities, but because it's made of dragon bone, which offers excellent physical and magical protection.) Though it actually does work as a disguise, due to his discretion. Everyone in-game that would recognize him is either dead or he intentionally avoids.

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* PaperThinDisguise: Judas' mask: it's become a RunningGag in the TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries of how poorly it functions as a means of concealing your identity. It doesn't help that Judas has an [[Creator/HikaruMidorikawa incredibly distinctive voice]]. (The excuse in-game is that Judas chose the mask not for its face-hiding abilities, but because it's made of dragon bone, which offers excellent physical and magical protection.) Though it actually does work as a disguise, due to his discretion. Everyone in-game that would recognize him is either dead or he intentionally avoids.
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* GreatEscape: Kyle and Loni meet Judas when he jumps from the roof of their cell and offers them an escape through secret passages the guards don't know about.

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